What are some instances of a cartoon having a moral that's rarely taught?
>>81792989
Definitely wasn't expecting this one.
>It turns out that violence IS the answer
>>81792989
That one episode of Gravity Falls
>Wow, revenge is totally underrated!
always bring a pencil sharpener.
>>81793775
>Telling the truth all of the time makes you unlikable
>>81793870
This one is actually a pretty common moral. Hell, I thought Liar, Liar was a famous movie.
>Prejudice is a two-way street
As powerful as the shock collar idea was, I'm glad they went with a suprisingly nuanced message for a kid's movie instead.
https://youtu.be/knIroVvPZU4
Comedy should prevoke you and make you laugh, and no one should be able to take that privilege away from you.
From Duckman
>>81794107
That was the best "making of" documentary I've ever seen. It was very insightful.
>>81792989
The real power... is violence!
>>81793704
Based old Adventure Time
>>81793589
I loved the moral on this.
It was so much more nuanced than these things usually are.
>>81799922
What was the moral?
>>81800615
You can't always achieve your dreams, and sometimes obsessing over a particular goal is bad, but that doesn't mean you can't still be involved with the things you love.
Hey Arnold and snitching.
I'm actually still confused about the point it was making If the kids didn't confess because of guilt, Arnold would have gotten expelled. The principal who did snitch when he was a kid fondly recounts how he was excommunicated from everyone else for the rest of his academic career but still believes that it was the right thing to do. It's unclear who to side with.
>>81792989Amending FencesWhat About Discord?
>>81801352
Ugh, ok, Barney's Great Adventure.
Message
>nothing wrong with being a kid
>dreams that are the clearest are the ones that will most likely come true
I wish Happy Plums exist in real life ;_;
>>81802486
>Put plums in cup
>addvinegar
>add whipped cream
Bada-boop.
>>81802715
it doesn't work
>>81800964
that, and: college isn't for everyone, and just because it isn't for you, doesn't mean you can't be successful. get your foot in the door in other ways, start from the bottom and work your way up, etc.
>>81800615
Life's not fair - Hard work won't always pay off.
Ripped pants from none other than Spongebob.
Don't act like a fool to get friends- don't over do the "le funny man" thing because you'll be doing it for the wrong reasons.
>>81801043
And if you looked at it from another angle the moral is "Accepting responsibility for other people's actions makes you cool, even if it fucks you over" or "if you fuck up, no one is going to take advantage of that but help you"
>>81801043
>principal wartz says being a rat fucked him over so hard socially that he didn't land his first date until he was 23
>laughed at this when I was a kid
>now I'm a 24 year-old kissless virgin
really makes you think
>>81807480
That in either case it's your fault?
>>81800964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnLgnK57weI
>Once your dreams have gotten rusty, that's all she wrote. Polish them all you want, but that ship has sailed. Just trade those crappy old dreams for a set of new ones.
Arthur had a lot of these, honestly
>trying to be happy all the time will fuck up your mental health
>depression isn't just being really sad
>>81806787
Ripped pants was about overusing memes
>>81808277
This is one I really needed
I have Inside Out to thank for that
>>81808277
They should have just renamed Happiness to hedonism, she pretty much just worked around the clock to find pleasure even when it was least appropriate. Happiness was the villain.
>>81808765
It's a man vs. self story. There was no villain, because the source of the conflict was also the protagonist.
>>81808169
fuck
>i just realized that 90 percent of the things i like I don't actually like but are thing I want to like and think I should
>I don't know what I like
>my whole life is a lie
Thanks man, in one picture my entire life is fucked up. I'm going away for awhile
>>81808913
>>81808913
Sounds like it's time for a week of self exploration and trying new things
>>81802715
Unfortunately, this is the recipe for diarrhea not happiness.
>>81808277
Im happy all the time and ill have you know my mind is perfectly warped.
>>81801544
I'll be old and gray and I'll never stop laughing remembering the Anon who brought up Barney at every slightest hint of tiny horse shenanigans on his precious /co/. You're doing God's work, Barneyfag. And by God I mean the God of autism.
>>81802486
>Be mad scientist
>Have the government at my mercy
>This fucking old lady and her dog ruin my doomsday device
>Chase them into their house to strangle the shit out of them
>Oh shit what's this? Plums?
>Better stop and have some
What the fuck, Dr Zalost?
>>81808169
In retrospect I realize that Arthur's girlfriend is actually a real cutie
>>81808765
No more villainous than any of the other emotions, they all had potential for fucking up her life. Without Joy she ended up pushing everyone away.
They did a fair job of convincing why Sadness can be useful to the psyche but I was left wondering what the purpose of Anger was.
>violence (or more specifically, hostility/aggression) isn't the answer to things you don't understand or find troubling, sometimes in order to understand certain people you need to be civil with them no matter how difficult they are
When it takes Uncle Grandpa to be the voice of reason that helps carry this message, I don't even know what to think.
>>81810458
>I was left wondering what the purpose of Anger was.
Anger is what motivates you to destroy your obstacles.
>>81810458
>>81810631
Anger is the natural response to a threat or perceived danger. Like that one Anon said, it helps to overcome challenges with a sense of assertion and empowerment. You want to come off strong and capable, you need anger.
>>81810458
Motivation in the face of a shitty situation.
>>81793870
Excactly. Just look at how many people hate Donald Trump.
>>81801352>brings up THAT show>doesn't mention Maud Pie or The Cutie Map
Dan vs. Summer Camp, and Dan vs. in general.
"Sometimes people really are out to get you and playing by the rules does no good."
>>81792989
>tfw TV screenwriters are so fucked dry for meaningful lessons, they probe /co/ for material.
>>81792989
It would have been SO EASY for them to just say making fun of people is bad and you shouldn't joke about things, but they took the high road and actually made a fantastic moral. God damn spongebob used to be good.
>>81811429
> implying writers couldn't just rip off a lesser known Aesop's fable, like writers have done for centuries
http://www.aesopfables.com/
>>81811271
Dan Vs also has a general theme that subtly emphasizes that you can be an angry, vitriolic and controlling person, but none of those things nessarily make you a bad person.
I wouldn't argue that the show tries to portray Dan as a good person, but it certianly doesn't portray him as the villain or as an evil person in general. Sadistic, and cruel at times, sure, but even then it's remarkably non-judgmental about what he's doing.
>>81809579
>Unfortunately, this is the recipe for diarrhea not happiness
I nominate this statment as this week's best original description of 4chan, all in favor say "Iregret nothing"
>>81810458
Anger is my primary source of motivation desu senpai. If wasn't angry at how fucked up everything in existence was then I probably would have strung myself up a long time ago just becuase I wouldn't have any drive to live anymore.
It's a morbid thought, but I'm quite thankful that I will never run out of things to be upset about.
Seriously though, anger is a based as fuck emotion that gets a bad rap because parents don't understand nuiance. You can be as angry as you damn well please so long as you know how to focus that anger and make proper use of it. A lot of the most successful people in the world only got where they are because they were pissed off at their own personal circumstances.
>>81812178
I regret nothing
>>81794111
I picture that in the next couple years people who never even watched this show will start quoting this.
Like that thing Stephen Fry said
>>81808913
Wow, Arthur's a little more heavy hitting than I remember
>>81793704
No, the message was that everything isn't black & white and not to give up hope.
>>81810938
>Just look at how many people hate Donald Trump.
>>81808169
AHA YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS
>>81815625
They literally say violence is the answer in the episode, re-watch it
The emperor's new groove. Being yourself isn't a good thing if you're an asshole.
>>81816604
Everyone knows the REAL message of His Hero is not to trust old people.
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no matter how right you are or how hard you try the world will still shit on you
>>81812178
>Anger is my primary source of motivation desu senpai.
Edgy. Have you tried not being bitter?
>>81800964
I did think part of it was that you don't always have to take the tradional path too. They worked their way up and that does really happen a lot.
>>81808169
This is why I always liked the Emperor's New Clothes story.
>>81801352
I don't remember those episodes.
>>81808370
You'll never run out of memes anon.
Being yourself essentially means act a certain way for this particular person/group of people to get what you need out of them.
>>81810389
Muffy is not Arthur's gf.Francine is.
>>81811719
>>81792989
Yep. You can make fun of people if you want, but if you do, you gotta be willing to make fun of everyone else, including yourself.
That's what makes a comedian, and I am really glad Spongebob showed that message.
>>81794107
Yeah the shock collar idea was neat but a bit too distopian and one-sided. Lord knows that would have caused websites like Tumblr to ruin the movie for everyone else.
>>81808169
This is true for a lot of people but I seriously hope it isn't implying that someone can't genuinely enjoy abstract art
>>81817582
might be riffing on how lazy some of it is. what you posted took effort and is pleasing to they eye but the modern art movement is full of lazy garbage.
>>81817563
>Original Script Zootopia is released instead of the current version
>Tumblr or whatever advocates how predators are minorities, and prey are the white oppression
>Judy/Nick is seen as a interracial relationship
>If people make OCs/Fursonas or whatever for the movie, they are ridiculed if they choose to make a predator but are white, etc
God that would have been a horrifying outcome.
>>81817614
I often find that modern art often gets lost in translation to the general public and sits much better as a conceptual or psychological writing to better explain the ideas being communicated
>>81810027
>>81808277
>mfw disgust murdered fear years ago
>the other 4 are now just trying to keep me alive because I don't know how to make a smart decision
>>81817728
art isn't supposed to be pretty. it's supposed to make you feel something and or think.
of I'm feeling disgust at how lazy an aryist is or think that a great deal of time is being wasted by a lot of parties I think the hypothetical artist is guilty of self indulgence to the expense of producing something that can communicate ideas or provoke thought.
granted this is a wholly debatable point, god knows I'm no paragon of taste but those are muh feels on the matter.
>>81817831
But that's not art, that's painting.
Art is a category.
>>81817582
I think it's just making fun of Muffy for forcing herself to do things she doesn't like for the sake of making herself look smart.
>>81817868
She wants to like these things because her dad likes it.
>>81792989
>even the most open-minded and progressive people can make mistakes, and it doesn't automatically make them a bad person,
>>81817904
She wants to like those things because she thinks that's what rich people like her are supposed to like. She's constantly trying to act like a cliche rich girl
>>81817980
Sorry, the thing I described was her liking opera.
>>81817861
'what is art?'
abstract art can be enjoyable. It can also be a self indulgent act of intellectual and or emotional masturbation same as any artform. abstract art however is prone to a lot of fakery and pointless nonsense.
one of the biggest fucking problems with art is interpretation.
what's genuine? what's good? how many times do we have to see 'cleaning staff threw away an art exhibit after mistaking it for garbage' until we admit that maybe society is a little too willing to indulge some flights of fancy?
>>81817641
That already happened anyway.
>>81810458
To purge the enemy's of the holy Emporer of man kind of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mjlAItuw3s
>This and Wreck-It Ralph both lost the Oscar to Brave
Danny phantom deals withhomosexualityby having Danny stressed by his powers until his family eventually figured it out and accepts him anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqziaQxAsMA
The Hangman tells the story of a moral coward who watches as everyone in his town is hung one by one. First a foreigner, then a man who protested the first hanging, then a jew, then a black, and so on. Eventually the cowardly narrator gets his turn on the gallows tree for the crime of being too cowardly to stand up for the previous victims. The message is very obvious (You have a moral duty to stand up to injustice, or you'll be a victim of it), but it's horribly effective in its beautifully macabre style.
>>81816848
I'm not really bitter though. I'm a pretty happy guy as well and I do legitimately enjoy my life. I'm just a very angry person and I don't try to pretend that I'm not.
I am probably an edgelord though, not gonna try to deny that because I don't really care to do so.
>>81808277
Bullshit
>>81821436
>I have never actually experienced a form of clinical depression in my life
>I am in denial
>I like shitposting
Pick at least one
>>81821526
>too much happiness causes depression
Bullshit, too much sadness causes depression
>>81821436
Sadness results in catharsis. You'll be happier after you cry it out than if you keep pushing that sadness to the back of your mind.
>>81821578
It was never implied that too much happiness causes depression, though denial of reality in the pursuit of happiness can and will fuck up your mental health.
Though I will say that attempting to maintain a perpetual high will set you up for a fall. Seriously, go look at manic depressive people, they're pretty much the happiest people in the world one minute, then they crash hard when the pendulum swings in the other direction.
>Pic related
The powerpuff girls episode on feminism. The villain convinces the girls that most crime and policing are handled by men so they let her go and act like huge cunts towards the professor and mayor when they're asked to do something. It takes Ms. Vellum and Ms. Keane to point out that men weren't mistreating them and that women were also victims of this female crime wave. The show ends with a speech about Susan B. Anthony who wanted to go to jail to prove women deserve equal rights.
The whole point was clear: feminism isn't about attacking men or saying that women deserve special treatment; it is about giving women the same opportunities and choices as men, making them full citizens with the same rights.
>>81821677
Stoicism is a virtue though. That can be forgiven since Riley is a child.
>>81823771
Only in backwards cultures with high suicide rates.
>>81792989
i like that adventure time episode were both finn and jake are sick but finn would rather look for a gigant to kill or something instead of just resting.
Finn does whatever he wants with no concideration for anyone else and hurts a bunch of creatures but instead of stoping he keeps going and at the end he gets what he wants
>>81823850
Stoicism=/= repression
It's a movie where people are literally controlled by their emotions, I understand why that wouldn't occur. But the reality is that there's away to lessen their influence on you, to become independent of them.
>>81810564
"Violence isn't the answer" is one of the most common and hand-holding morals in cartoons ever.
>>81824296
Unless it's avatar and violence is okay if you make your enemy powerless.
>>81816796
The moral there actually is that problems can't be solved cleanly in thirty minutes. You are lucky if they actually get solved.
>violence isn't the answer.
I really liked the moral of The Lego Movie.
It took the usual "EVERYONE is special!" mentality that kids' media is full of these days and turned it into a unifying thing, rather than an excuse to hand out consolation prizes and participation trophies.
>Everyone is the protagonist in their own story. No matter how unimportant you may feel, we all have the same potential for our own personal greatness; it only takes a bit of inspiration to start your own Hero's Journey.
Also
>There's no wrong way to play with LEGO, but limiting one's creativity kinda goes against the spirit of the thing. Either way, don't be a dick to people who play differently than you; make it a unifying thing rather than an exclusionary thing.
>>81793589
This movie wasn't that good but the moral gives it a lot of points
>>81808277
This movie sent me into a really depressive episode for the first time in monthsBPD here. I still bought it on blu ray though.
>tfw Joy murdered Disgust years ago
>>81824998
>might makes right
>>81821807
>they're pretty much the happiest people in the world one minute
Eh my manic episodes aren't necessarily "happy". Just a lot of energy and motivation and anxiety and pacing around. Very quick to anger. Sometimes dissociation. It's hard to explain but I've described it as taking a shitty upper without any euphoria and no choice. Then I often crash into overwhelming sadness and depression.
When I'm manic I make everyone around me hate me and when I'm depressive I hate myself.
>>81825472
nice blog I bet you're the type to write "I am depressed and want to kill myself every day" while wearing sungla
>>81810938
So true
>>81828367
What are you even talking about, friend? I was just commenting that manic depressives aren't always too happy when they're in a manic state. I was correcting a common misconception in a relevant chain. You sound as though you're hurting. Do you need someone to talk to?
>>81828722
pic related its you
>>81829042
Okay.
>>81803646
A lot of time's it doesn't, you need love to make it complete.
>>81817582
From the perspective of someone who doesn't know much about art, there may be some obligation to like it because you know its significant but not aware of why.
