What's so wrong with this page that causes people to rage?
>>81759703
I just don't understand how they don't get shot or accidentally slice an arm off themselves.
>>81759703
People forgetting that Han has used a lightsaber before in the movies.
Look how awkard he looks using it. Leia is the only one with any skill, which makes sense. Chewie is just thrashing.
And it's not like you have to be Force sensitive to use one, you just have to use the Force to use it to it's fullest. Finn used Anakin's as a battle knife/baton.
>>81759841
Well, Han isn't really using it well.
Leia has the Force.
But Chewie should've accidentally killed everyone in a mile radius in a blind rage.
>>81759703
I don't have my "no fun allowed" images handy, so this'll do.
Basically it's something to complain about.
>>81759703
What's Leia's canon bust size? The comics and even Rebels have them as pretty huge, despite Carrie taping them down for filming.
>>81759703
They don't read the pages leading up to it to understand why it happens.
>>81759841
It's a regular fucking sword with a blade that can cut through most things. You don't need the force to be able to swing it around (see: Finn), just common sense and/or weapon training (again, see: Finn)
>>81759841
>I just don't understand how they don't get shot
Because no one's guns are working there. That's why they're using the lightsabers in the first place.
>>81759913
But how do they not get shot?
>>81760060
The enemy guns weren't working
>>81760009
This man asks the right questions
>>81760035
Isn't the blade part weightless and so hard to manage? I thought the using the force was a big part of using effectively?
Fanservice is never, ever a good thing, whether it's sexual or otherwise. Unfortunarely in modern culture if you're not full of self aware fan wank moments like the one in OPs image you're deemed unfun and nobody reads/watches/buys you.
>>81760009
>she has a huge bust in rebels
Sure she does.
>>81759703
>han is deflecting a blaster bolt in that page
Jesus.
>>81760310
Star Wars is nothing but stolen ideas, so it's not a big deal for it to be super fanservicey
>>81760377
10/10
Very subtle
>>81760334
Her tits are still a lot bigger in the comic
Maybe we'll get an official size one day?
>>81760246
In Legends, sure. New canon doesn't give a fuck yet, thus opening the use of lightsabers up to other people.
>>81760497
In the comics her tits are pretty big so you're right about that. By the way which series is the picture you and OP posted from?
>>81760454
I...what? He's actually deflecting a blaster bolt.
>>81760377
that image is old as internet
YOU GET A LIGHTSABER
AND YOOOOU GET A LIGHTSABER
EVERYONE LOOK UNDER THE SEATS YOU ALL GET LIGHTSABERS!
>>81760588
That guy you're responding to dun goof'd used a Legends comic.
BUT here's an image from her canon series, where they are still pretty large.
>>81760612
On the off chance that this is your first time reading a comic and you're not actually trolling. Look again, or better yet read the comic. The blue burst is from Chewie slicing through the dude, the green one is from Han slicing through the other.
>>81760246
So what if its weightless? I can wave a flashlight in the general direction of something just fine. The idea that only Jedi can use a lightsaber because normies cut themselves up in an instant is retarded. Sure, going up against a serious enemy Jedi/Sith, nonsense. But just using it like a baseball bat to kill some useless stormtroopers? Whats the big deal?
>>81759703
>you just have to use the Force to use it to it's fullest
Because peopel seem to think that you need to be force sensitive to use a lightsaber and that precognition is necessary in it's function. When really not all Jedi are precognitive, and those who are can't use it in a fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vtj5YxDcCk&nohtml5
>>81760246
"Using effectively" means twirling it and blocking blaster fire and shit like that. If you're just gonna swing it around like one would your average melee weapon you should be fine.
>>81760788
You can't use it like a baseball bat because it has no weight. You have to use it like wiimote and hope you can guess where the blade part is and not accidentally cut into your own flesh
>>81759703
They were preparing us for Rey and Finn fighting with sabers without real training.
>>81759703
this is what gets me
>>81761750
Sorry if I'm retarded but what do you even mean?
>>81761685
people make a bigger deal out of that than they should. kyle was bleeding out, holding back, and rey had already demonstrated competence in hand to hand weapon combat
>>81761924
the beam isn't lined up with the hilt. The red line is what it should follow, the black is what it is following
>>81762119
Oh I see it now. You would think an artist for a property this big wouldn't make such a dumb mistake
>>81760035
>>81759841
>>81760246
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>>81760840
iirc, the explanation in old canon was that the lightsabers give off a force (something to do with gyroscopes and conservation of angular momentum)
Now they just say they build up momentum quickly, and so you need to be trained or you'll slice a limb off.
>>81759703
everything
>>81762292
This. If they were easy to use, wouldn't they be more common? You'd see gang members or bounty hunters using them for the cool factor.
>>81771383
For intimidation, sure.
But when you aren't in a situation where literally no weapons work, there's no reason the enemy can't just shoot you from outside of melee range.
>>81762007
Nope
Make a fencer fight with a katana and he will suck.
>>81771831
I admit, I only saw TFA once, but I recall her sucking. Like, she spent half the right running and avoiding, and the rest doing these awkward stabbing lunges.
>>81771709
That's irrelevant. My point was, if they were easy to use, surely they'd be more common.
As far as I'm aware they're almost exclusively used by force users. Off the top of my head, the only lightsabre users i can think of that aren't contemporary force users, are grievous, who was a cyborg with lightsabre training, a force using clone of a jedi from the eu, and the concept art storm troopers. I'm sure I'm missing people.
What's the point of the weapon being a symbol of jedi/sith, if any random fuck can use one?
>>81771929
Based on the context I've heard, they AREN'T easy to use, but it's either that or bare hands. Literally all of their weapons don't work, and the same goes for the enemy's. And they happen to be near nigh unblockable weapons that they just have to be careful with.
I'm assuming they're awkwardly flailing around, and actually suck with them, but chose that that's better than being unarmed.
>>81771992
Hold on, would you rather fight unarmed, or with a weapon that could kill you if you're not careful?
>>81772119
Depends, am I so outnumbered that if I go out unarmed I may die anyway?
If yes, I'll take my chances.
>>81771929
Han uses one in the original trilogy and he's not force-sensitive in the current canon, same with Finn. Are you straight up retarded or just desperately clinging to EU bullshit?
Fuck it, storytiming this shit, and let's see the non-autistic Star Wars fans decide.
All you dumb motherfuckers who say you'll easily kill yourself with a blade that has no weight have never played sword fighting on Wii Sports Resort. It's not that fucking hard, morons.
>>81772220
This is the most autistic post in the thread so far, seems like you're working against yourself.
>>81772184
I suppose that makes sense.
>>81772211
I'm going to get fucked for this, but when did han use a lightsabre?
I just always liked the idea that lightsabres had some sort of innate gyroscopic movement, so that if you weren't trained/concentrating, they could be dangerous to the user. It justified why only jedi/sith used them. I'll move with the times if i have to, but I'm allowed to be disappointed.
>>81772253
I feel like I've seen this thread three times this week!
because it's writers overusing something cool without realizing WHY it's cool.
>>81772351
Empire Strikes Back, a screenshot of it is literally the second reply in this thread, you dumb motherfucker. Lightsabers are usable by anybody but anyone who's not force-sensitive would be vulnerable to being shot. Also I think that building them is pretty rare knowledge. Any dumbass could pick one up and turn it on though, and you'd have to be really goddamn careless to kill yourself with it.
>>81772411
Relax, i admitted i was wrong. It's not worth getting frustrated over.
>>81772628
How could it not be frustrating for somebody to be this retarded, asking questions when the answer is at the top of the page? People like you are what's wrong with the world. "Oh I said I was wrong, no worries, right?" Fucking wrong. If you took thirty fucking seconds to scan the thread before stating your dumbass thoughts, this wouldn't happen, and on a larger scale, many problems in the world wouldn't happen. I've never even read a fucking comic book, I'm just drunk as fuck and only on this board and in this thread to tell you that you are a fucking terrible human being and I hope you die.
>>81771929
How would they be more common? Only force users can make lightsabers because the crystal has to be aligned properly for it to work. I can't see many jedi or sith making sabers for random mobs bosses to use for intimidation.
Any idiot can pick up a saber and swing it around like a sword but you need the force to be able to use it in a universe with guns and not die instantly.
>>81772772
This quipmachine is not muh Luke.
>>81772772
>Artoo
>Not R2
So happy I decided to not read these comics after the first issue.
>>81772361
The fuck? Did Dengar just fuckin' die?
Who was in Empire, his twin clone brother?
>>81772876
>Implying a comic book explosion means a character is dead
Do you even /co/ bro?
And now you know what lead up to >>81759703
Pic related is the page after.
>>81772813
Because they used a common spelling for R2?
>>81772973
I'll put that flea in a box. Then I'll put that box in another box! And when it arrives?
I'LL SMASH IT WITH A HAMMER
By the way, this page is for everyone who was sperging out in the last of these threads about Han having a black wife.
>>81759703
I don't understand how Leia doesn't slice Chewie's fac & arm off when bringing the sword down from being swung back like that. In any case it'd require her to at least look behind her and be careful.
Just, with lightsabers that will slice clean through flesh and bone, that's a highly hazardous cluster they're standing in, with the blades out
>>81760788
It's not like swinging a sword. It's like swinging a laser pointer and if you point it at yourself you die
>>81772396
>Wah! Help me, Ben!
Luke's in character here at least.
>>81773093
She's lucky she didn't stab her head when she started it.
And that's the entire issue Anons.
So nobody's doing anything too advanced, a few times Han got really lucky not getting himself killed, but I feel like having a horseshoe up his ass is practically in-character for him.
>>81773121
If you're not capable of swinging a laser pointer around without pointing at yourself, you're the dumbest motherfucker on the planet.
>>81773262
Especially when the laser is fully visible and bright as shit. There's nothing superhuman about that.
>>81759842
Han doesn't fight anyone with a lightsaber, tard, he nust uses it to cut open that beast. Obviously in a slow controlled manner any old normie could handle a ligtsaber. A fast paced fight is a different story.
>>81773262
There's a difference between standing in your room swinging it and using it effectively in a fight. No one's saying a normie instantly dies by turning a lightsaber on.
Everyone's about to cut everyone else's everything into stupid little pieces because such an elegant weapon from a more civilised age is not safe for amateurs to handle.
It's like when you see lightsaber duels in the prequels. They fling them around like fucking ninjas when one false movement would literally mean decapitation. It's the equivalent of seeing a warrior running into battle with a big blade between his teeth. Or a knight with a huge cape. Yeah it looks cool. But when you think about it. It's really fucking dumb.
>>81760035
>implying Finn isn't a force user. Breaking from his brainwashed existence. Hence Kylo stopping in his tracks feeling a slight presence, also knowing immediately which trooper defected, Maz's second choice to give the saber.
It's called the force awakens...don't think they're talking about just 1 person..or 2 for that matter.
Well it's not like if you swing the thing your hand will go far back enough for you to cut yourself, even if you did get close enough to burn yourself your body will react and try to turn the blade away before you're even consciously aware of any pain. It's only when you try the fancy shit like flips or spinning the lightsaber in your hand when you start risking that shit. If you're not force sensitive just don't be a retard and try any moves that'll turn the blade towards you.
>>81772933
>saga of the Last Jedi
Gamemaster is Snoke!
>>81774286
>also knowing immediately which trooper defected
I can agree on the rest, but this at least could be justified as him simply putting two and two together, and realizing the trooper who didn't fire when ordered is likely the same one who's defecting and breaking their prisoner out.
>>81772771
>Only force users can make lightsabers because the crystal has to be aligned properly for it to work.
Isn't this legends only now?
>>81759703
a woman using a lightsaber!? wtf it's not a tumblrsaber
>>81759703
i dont have any context here but im pretty sure you need a lot of training not to flail wildly with a lightsaber
>>81771929
>if they were easy to use, surely they'd be more common.
Depends on what you mean by "use". Doing the flipping, spinning, boomerang, and defecting blaster fire shit more than likely takes force sensitivity to do and consistently not injure yourself.
Just swinging it around though? You can do that no issues but the problem is you need to get close for that to do anything. Force users can either get close using the force to deflect fire or just throw the lightsaber boomerang style but normal people can't do that. So why not have a blaster and not have to get close in the first place?
The bigger question should be why don't lightbayonets exist for the time you do end up close to the enemy?
>>81774543
Read the thread, the issue was storytimes.
I've never seen that page before, but yeah, that makes me a cringe a bit. It screams of fanfic bullshit.
>>81772411
>Any dumbass could pick one up and turn it on though
This reminds me that back in Legends there were some lightsabers that had their buttons on the inside. So not only do you have to use the force to flip them on but you had to know where the button is and how much force to apply to it. Neat little idea I think.
>>81772771
They have droids able to replicate the telekenetic use of the force. Lightsabers are just a machine same as any other, I'm sure if someone wanted to they could put them into mass production.
>>81762292
Sorta.
The explanation is that Lightsabers, being plasma contained in a magnetic field, are weightless. However, all that plasma still has mass, and thus takes more force that you'd expect to get going, and to stop.
Changing directions would be a clumsy affair, as the blade gets "heavier" the faster you try to decelerate or accelerate it, and then quickly loses all feeling of mass once it's reached a constant speed.
A regular untrained user would find using one extremely counter intuitive compared to an ordinary weapon, and have a hard time knowing when to stop a swing, leading to many more self injuries.
This is why Jedi prefer continuous slashes and motions that let the blade carry itself, without attempting lots of hard switches. Their minor precog abilities help, as the blade can always be where they need it to be, but a vast majority of their ability is just training.
It's all bullshit anyway. You might as well be arguing why don't any Lightsaber duels have one just turn their saber off and on midswing.
I miss the days when we just argued about silly things in the Expanded Universe.
Before the dark times. Before the Mouse.
>>81772813
Hasn't it been spelled "Artoo" and "Threepio" in dialogue for literally decades in the books?
>>81772813
You have to be 18 to use this site.
>>81774909
So a lightsabre is a fancy laser tulwar, except it's easier to use because you do not have to force yourself to do draw cuts.
>>81774909
>Changing directions would be a clumsy affair, as the blade gets "heavier" the faster you try to decelerate or accelerate it, and then quickly loses all feeling of mass once it's reached a constant speed.
I fail to see how that makes it different to swinging any other longish object.
>>81760840
Goddamn, there is just no weight to that animation.
>>81762007
Rey showed proficiency with a stick, not a sword.
They are different, numbnuts
>>81772621
Why didn't it short out the monster's limbs?
>>81772504
My Kotor instincts just salivated at that haul.
>>81771512
Kek.
>>81778063
Careful, anon. Criticizing the Greatest Star Wars Character Of All Time is sexist, racist, bigoted, hateful, gynophobic, and anti-fun.
The Force Awakens is a perfect film in every single respect and only mean-spirited MRA woman haters think otherwise.
>>81759703
Shit like that happened in the Dark horse books all the time, it was like the force was Mountain Dew Force Xtreme
