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https://youtu.be/MnJG79xCofE
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>>81751840
>Shit coloring
>No yellow oval
>Shitty Batgirl intro
It will be shit m8
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>>81752075
>I am counting the days until I commit suicide: the post
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>>81751840
I can't wait to see The Joinker in action. Hope it's good.
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>>81752075
well yeah its an animated cape movie. theyre all shit and this'll be no different.
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>>81752075
>Bruce Timm
>Kevin Conroy
>Mark Hamill
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>>81752158
Quit trying to force your shitty meme
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>>81751840
Sexism.
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>>81752244
What meme?
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>>81752249
It's funny cos i remember people claiming if they did the same thing with a male hero it'd be perfectly fine and they wouldn't care. But if that superman doomsday cover went out people would cry out their dicks.
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>>81752165
What is
Justice League - New Frontier
Justice League - Gods and Monsters
Batman Year One
Under The Red Hood
The Dark Knight Returns
Green Lantern - First Flight
All-Star Superman
Superman vs The Elite
Superman Unbound
Superman/Batman - Public Enemies
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>>81752362
nah. they all didn't have the intro with the character i wanted, the correct detail in a costume, and coloring i guess.
so yeah shit.
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>>81752435
DELETE THIS
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>>81752435
Female nipples on a blue board? Are you crazy?
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>>81752362
>Superman/Batman - Public Enemies
That was absolute dogshit.
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>>81752435
Wow, edgy.
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>>81752343
no shit, the picture makes supes look like his prison bitch wearing makeup
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>>81752362
New Frontier, Under the Red Hood, Gods and Monsters...they're decent.

But All Star Superman? DKR? Year One? All complete trash when compared to the source material.

Those stories aren't simply compelling narratives, they're also some of the finest story telling and artistry in cape comics. And when you attempt to match the bold inks and words of Frank Miller or Morrison/Quietly or David Mazuchelli with mud-colored, static anime, you get something half-assed and boring.

Go ahead and compare this clip from DKR:
https://youtu.be/_8Pa-Ff-NXA?t=2m8s

to the original sequence.

The clip completely lacks any of the stuff that made the scene in the comics so electric- the staging, the narration, the specific rhythm, the lurid colors- all removed and replaced with lifelessness.

The Killing Joke is an interesting tale, but it's one that's been a dozen times over the years in round about ways. Moore and Bolland's version remains so vivid, even decades later, because of the pure skill that was poured into the thing.

I don't care who you have producing or starring in the thing, it simply can't and won't hold a candle to the original- like a mediocre study of a famous painting, it's simply not fine art.
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>>81753696
>it's simply not fine art.
yeah but...neither are cape comics. Even the best are just less shit than the norm.
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Heh.
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>>81752343

>Implying I wouldn't buy that Superman cover
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>>81751840
>feminist batgirl given larger role because MUH STRONK INDEPENDENT WOMYN so SJWs will watch the movie
They better not pussy out by not showing barbara getting paralyzed by the joker. It's already bad enough they're pandering to feminists, they better not remove material fat whales will find triggering and problematic.
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>>81752075
The shading in Joker's mind break scene is on point, but the rest does seem a little bland looking.
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>>81752362
>All Star Superman
Opinion discarded, that movie was so bad that nigga commited suicide
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>>81754086
That's kind of hot
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>>81752343
they'd pee?
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>>81754038
I hear ya. They had better go the full nine yards. Shot, paralyzed, stripped naked, photographed and left for dead. It is rated R for Christ's sake. NO EXCUSE not to have a 1:1 adaptation.
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>>81754038
I hope Barbara isn't paralyzed by the gunshot and beats the shit of the Joker so it'd trigger you into suicide.
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>>81754086

Goddamn, if only.
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>>81754290
They do, there was a behind the scenes thing where they show a bit of it.
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>>81754300
I'm half expecting warner bros to do just that
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Whats all the stuff being deleted?
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>>81754300
You go girl!
Link to your tumblr so I can reblog you? :3
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>>81754300
>>81754415
Pretty sure Bruce Timm and Mark Hamill would've walked if they pulled that shit.
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>>81754678
You can't show a woman getting hurt, it's guaranteed controversy. A bunch of feminists got buttmad over the joker cover a few years ago, you think they won't be mad as fuck over the killing joke if they show barb in any real pain or danger?
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>>81754756
DELEETLE LEETLE LEE
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>>81754678
Feminists and comicbookmovie launched a petition to stop the movie from being released.
They didnt count on the Joker autism fanboys to fight back as hard as they did
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>>81754767
And controversy sells
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>>81754879
I prefer to think of myself as a Bat Loyalist and a purist. If it happened in the source material, you don't change the adaptation because of a few piss ants.
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>>81754767
How the fuck do you make a Killing Joke movie then? You need that event and pictures to torture Gordon.
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>>81754879
what petition?
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>>81755051
They'll still do the photos, they just won't include the scene and they'll make up for triggering feminists by showing a recovered batgirl beating up the joker, muh stronk womyn.
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>>81754992
It's honestly a shit story anyway. I dont get why anyone wants an animated version of this.
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>>81754879
Jesus, two sides of the same shit coin.
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>>81755121
That's retarded and would shit all over the movie
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>>81755133
Nice opinion legbeard
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>>81755173
only one of them's a bit more agreeable on our side.
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>>81754767
>>81755121
>they'll make up for triggering feminists by showing a recovered batgirl beating up the joker, muh stronk womyn.
I know this is bait but you're retarded if you actually think this.
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>>81755253
Yet it pleases feminists and bending over to be PC and diverse is a thing in comics these days. Have you seriously seen what modern comics and animation look like these days?
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>>81755395
What a whiny bitch
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>>81751840

I don't understand what's wrong with this cover.

The Joker is supposed to be a monster. Isn't playing on a sexist worldview, taunting her and taking away all the willpower and strength that she has in a humiliating and degrading way, an effective way to establish him as such?

Do people really think that the Joker should be a feminist or something?
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>>81755395
>All DCAU movies are shit

So then what is the perfect comic book movie?
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>>81755959
They take offense on crying superheroine.
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>>81754038
Nigga, they had to turn a relatively short story into a feature length movie. Would you care to suggest an alternative means of accomplishing this beyond expanding the role of one of the central characters of said story?
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>>81755121
It'll be hilarious how utterly wrong you are when this thing actually comes out.
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>>81755959
Bear in mind there are people who think the Joker is an anti-hero.
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>>81755959
The argument is that they would never show a character like super man in the same position like>>81752249
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>>81757524
But they have
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>>81757524
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>>81757792
Not the same, Jason Todd's pieta pose is intended to be tragic, not emasculating.

>>81758232
That's better, but we need to see Batman crying before its the same level.
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>>81758406

A Nightwing/Tarantula cover would work.


But for full effect, we'd need to have an issue where someone like Poison Ivy rapes Nightwing in order to hurt Batman.
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>>81759302
Exactly. Now you understand why some people would find that objectionable, the exploitation of a beloved male character for his expendability. Disregarding everything that character is so the only important outcome is the effect it has on another male character.
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>>81759779
Still, it's something that happened. Why try to change it or deny it expost facto? It's a part of DC history.
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>>81759779

>Exactly. Now you understand why some people would find that objectionable, the exploitation of a beloved male character for his expendability. Disregarding everything that character is so the only important outcome is the effect it has on another male character.

What is pic related?
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>>81762247
If Jason was beloved he wouldn't have died in the first place.
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>>81762335
if Babson was she wouldn't have been crippled and ironically become important again
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>>81762474
There wasn't a vote to cripple Barbara.
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>>81762335

>Within the 36-hour period allotted for voting, the poll received 10,614 votes. The verdict in favor of the character's death won by a slim 72-vote margin of 5,343 votes to 5,271.The following issue, Batman #428, was published featuring Todd's death. Years later, O'Neil would admit hundreds of votes in the "Jason Dies" line came from a single person, adding a large degree of uncertainty to the honesty of results regarding a poll designed to determine the character's popularity. "I heard it was one guy, who programmed his computer to dial the thumbs down number every ninety seconds for eight hours, who made the difference", O'Neil said in a Newsarama interview conducted alongside writer Judd Winick during the "Under The Hood" arc.

Jason was a pretty beloved character.
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Actual trailer

https://youtu.be/DDj4zGFf4F8
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>>81752343
the edits were the best part.
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>>81751840

you know it's been years now and that new company logo still gets on my tits.
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>>81763492

wow that was really shoddily animated
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>>81768702
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>>81763492
I remember in that 12 minute video where they were talking about the effort required to bring Killing Joke to the screen they said something along the lines of "The art style was so detailed, we could never replicate that."
Which smacked of such a defeatist attitude.

I really don't like the art they've settled on.
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>>81770954
It's another way of saying we didn't have the time and budget.
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>>81770954

Look, when people say that it's NOT POSSIBLE they don't mean in literal sense so much as a practical one.

The executives putting forth the budget and time needed to actually make it is simply not gonna happen
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>>81771290
>>81771938

I know that's the case, it annoys me that it is.
This is The Killing Joke, one of, if not the, most popular Batman comic.

That the execs would be holding the purse strings on a project like this is unforgivable.
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>>81755959
Feminists don't read comics and don't understand the joker is a man who wants to watch the world burn slowly
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>>81772254
If not, the greatest comic of all time. They should invest in only the highest quality animation to make it a proper tribute.
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>>81751840
>getting Luke Skywalker to voice the Joker
really?
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>>81762247
Jason Todd was exploited in a similar way but he is still ultimately revived and moves forward with his character as the Red Hood.
Oracle was crippled as a second thought and cannot move forward even as she becomes Oracle.

And finally, there's no cover of him crying like a little bitch with the Joker smiling right next to him.
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>>81763492
Eh I'm not watching it for the animation, I'm in this purely to hear Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy voice all those sweet lines
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>>81775316
Free publicity from Star Wars, can't blame them
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>>81775266
Except even if it turns out amazing, direct to video animated movies don't make a lot, and i bet most hardly make a profit. And these things get pirated as soon as they get released.

They're not dumb enough to expend extra millions so the art can be as great as the source material.
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>>81752158
>joinker
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>>81775790
You make good points. I'm just saying I don't want it to become another extra long BTAS episode like mask of the snoretasm.
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>>81752158
Joinker?
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>>81775429
just multiple covers of him being beaten to death.
also he was dead. Babs was barely being used when she got crippled being Oracle DID allow her to evolve as a character
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I fucking hate how they've translated the art style, it looks so rushed when it really shouldn't be, especially with the meticulous serial Bolland put into the art.
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Babsgirl is shit
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>>81779393

All the animated movies have that problem. The only ones that look halfway decent are the ones that actually try to ape another style, or the old ones that just use Timm designs.

Like year one and TDKR looked about as interesting as drywall.
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>>81780340
The Timm designs work because they were made to be simplistic and produced rather quickly, which is a fine for me. But any DC animated film based on a comic always looks like trash to me, it wrecks the feel of the comic for me.
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>>81779393
I think it looks fine
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>>81752193
ha I recognize those names from my childhood UPVOTED
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>>81752362
>Under The Red Hood
I don't get the appeal.
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>>81758406
>https://twitter.com/TheGingerarchy/status/577501914159534080
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>>81758406
>That's better, but we need to see Batman crying before its the same level.
Why? Women objectively cry a lot more than men, even if they're brave or whatever. It shouldn't be scandalous showing a caped women crying in a nightmarish scenario from time to time, especially the pinnacle fucked scenario for that character.
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they still giving this movie an R-rated?
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>>81752158
>>81776731
>>81778586
This makes me want to see Batman intentionally mispronounce Joker's name just to fuck with him. And when Joker calls him out on it Batman pretends not to know what he's talking about.
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>>81780591
Based Dick
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>>81762474
TKJ was intended to be a non-canon one shot like Arkham Asylum, until they made it canon with Oracle.
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>>81753696
>All Star Superman? DKR? Year One? All complete trash when compared to the source material.

Perhaps. But they stand fine on their own, those movies aren't trash compared to Justice League War, or any of the new Batman trash.
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>>81775790
If they thought this wouldn't make money they wouldn't greenlight it.
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>>81780845
She's a superhero but she has to cry because she's a woman? This is >>/r9k/ levels of delusion.
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>>81779078
>just multiple covers of him being beaten to death.
Its not the same though. Him being dead is degrading sure, but being shown crying and begging for his life would be even worse.
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