https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWxGzxMAGX0
Visions wearing clothes.
I actually want to hear Vision's take on all of this. In AoU he had his own reasons for helping. I hope he doesn't just follow Tony's lead.
>>81737733
>its about muh buckey
WRONG!
>>81737733
So literally the only time in this movie that they're going to attempt to follow the logic of the comic arc.
Okay then.
>>81737733
>this clip has more ideological discussion between its lead characters then BvS had in the entire 2.5 hours
Also if the World Security Council isn't the MCU stand-in for the UN, what the fuck was it? Was it just the oversight committee for SHIELD?
>>81737837
The movie was always about the accords. Bucky's just a big reason Cap disagrees with them.
>>81737866
Thats because Snyder thinks having characters talk is stupid.
>Less talky, solve problems with Violence.
>BRAVO SNYDER
Given the tone of this clip and assuming there are a few scenes dealing with this sort of discussion, they could REALLY mess this up with poor writing/pacing/unfaithful characters.
I don't think they will, but this has the potential to be really poorly handled and received if everything outside the fight scenes is badly written attempts at deep commentaries and social issues.
>>81737866
>2.5 hours and Snyder still can't add ideological conflicts between Batman vs Superman
That's what you get when they both act like dangerous vigilantes, for fucks sake Clark was supposed to be against Batman taking justice in his own hands yet Supes kills people without a second thought.
>>81737938
This is Russo's though and not Snyder. I put my trust in them.
>>81737938
>this has the potential to be really poorly received
no it doesn't that is pretty much impossible
So wait is it Iron Man or Captain America that wants them to register? I always thought it was the other way around. Why would Tony want to be someones bitchboy when that's all Cap has ever been?
>>81737866
WSC are just CIA 2.0. The UN are the public eye representatives of the world, on the other hand. It matters to be or not be impressionable in front of them.
>>81737972
>Supes kills people without a second thought.
When did that happen?
>>81737972
Batman: WHAT IS SUPERMAN IS A BAD GUY?? I MEAN WHAT IF? I shall kill superman before he turns bad.
Superman: I don't like how you're threatening people and trying to be a vigilante. What if you hurt or kill people? I can be the only vigilante here who can hurt or kill people because I'm better than you.
>>81738011
>when that's all Cap has ever been
So you just didn't pay attention to TWS at all?
Good to know
>>81737866
>>81737972
>Supes kill in BvS
Eh, but he don't?
>>81737938
>badly written attempts at deep commentaries
this was pretty well written within their characters.
>>81738011
Guilt and Fear, Tony has been getting a lot of that ever since Avengers
Cap wants Freedom and helping people without restriction
>>81738045
That guy he punched through 3 alls totally survived right?
>>81737866
>I'm 12 and this is deep
Pretty good conversation.
Damn, they keep releasing these new videos, I should stop watching them. Don't want the entire movie spoiled.
>>81738045
The script may say otherwise but no one survives being slammed through 3 brick walls at mach speed.
>Why would Tony want to be someones bitchboy when that's all Cap has ever been?
Guilt over creating Ultron. He was left to his own devices and ended up creating a machine that almost killed everyone on Earth, he might feel some measure of responsibility for that and he's always been someone who overreacts to bad situations.
I'm amazed that the MCU managed to actually write itself into a place where Tony being pro-reg would actually make some sense.
>>81738072
I never said it was deep.
>>81738061
Kinda, that scene was kind of a jokeand...a bad one so he's pretty much did not kill anyone in BvS except like Mr.Doomsday.
>>81738011
>>81738011
Y'know anon I'm the ind of gy who wonders why the films can't have a tighter continuity and its post like yours that remind me why we can't
>>81738095
Here you go anon, slightly extended version of the clip they showed on Kimmel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWxGzxMAGX0
>>81738030
>>81738045
The Warlord or Terrorist in the beginning of the movie.
Which makes makes me wonder why he didn't kill Luthor when he pushed Lois of the building.
>>81738032
How hard was it for Snyder to not do a Superman "We shouldn't be the judge, jury and executioner" vs Batman "take matters into out own hands"?
>>81738011
see: Avengers, AoU, Ironman 3 for Tony Stark's character development
see: Winter soldier for Steve Roger's character development.
Basically Stark wants to put the world in a suit of armor, he believes after the events of avengers that the world should be defended in any way possible and it's okay for people's rights to be taken away as long as they're safer in the long run. He's seen some deep shit and knows that if he doesn't do this, the world cannot survive another event where aliens, robots or whatever creatures will come out and kill everyone.
Steve Rogers has seen a lot of distrust over SHIELD after the events of Winter Soldier because Hydra has pretty much infiltrated a huge part of the government and if a secret society like SHIELD can be infiltrated, how about others? By restricting the freedoms of the people, it pretty much means giving up their other rights instead for this freedom. Is this the right thing to do? Steve Rogers doesn't think so and knows that there are forces beyond his control that will try to control the avengers.
Bucky is basically the catalyst for the war as Steve sees redemption for him like the other members of the avengers that were seen as horrible people before they used their gifts for good. Steve wants the same for bucky but I assume Tony Stark (the ex weapons dealer) doesn't think Bucky can be redeemed and is ordered by the UN to capture him.
>people are excited for this
>>81738097
Isn't that pretty much every cape film?
>>81738170
>>81738095
I'm retarded, wrong link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52ebc-f8t8E
>>81738050
Sorry, poor wording, I don't think this scene is poorly written.
I'm just wondering if it'll be the exception, or if there's a possibility the audience (especially Marvel's younger audience) would get tired of this type of dialogue if it comprised almost everything outside of the fighting scenes.
>>81738034
No I don't come to /co/ and I don't know what TWS stands for.
>>81738156
Yeah I just watch the movies. Sorry pal </3
>>81738178
Did not watch Winter Soldier though
>>81738054
Thanks.
>>81738217
Then watch TWS.
Like shit why would you watch Captain America 3 without watching Captain America 2?
>>81738210
>that out of nowehere chest touch
Kek, Scott is such a sperg when it comes to Cap.
>>81738210
>Scott and Sam
great to see Sam is still salty about the fight
>>81738238
Because I like Iron Man and Spider-Man.
>>81738036
>watchmen
>people talk in their costumes the entire movie
I don't understand?
>>81738011
Both characters have had their eyes opened in different ways by the movies. Tony was this play it by ear hotshot who was fucking reporters and painting his armor like hot rods, but then people around him started getting hurt. And then he went through a wormhole in space and saw the Chitauri fleet about to rain down on Earth. And then Wanda shows him a vision of all his friends dead. So he starts trying to put suits of armor around things. First with Pepper, then the Iron Legion, and most recently Ultron. Tony was humbled by things he couldn't understand and now he sees why someone would want to follow the rules.
Cap started out as a frail sickly kid who just wanted to help, and he got his chance to do that. He fought a good fight in Germany but ended up frozen. When he wakes up, the world is a more complicated, sinister place. SHIELD isn't just SHIELD, it's HYDRA. And before that, SHIELD was using the Tesseract to make nukes as a deterrent for Asgardians. Cap is a lot less naive now, he trusts himself and those close to him, but isn't a blind follower anymore. And that's why Iron Man is for the accords and Captain America is against them. At least in the movies.
sorry if this is dumb, i just wanted to ramble a bit
>>81738210
>those thighs on Wanda
hnnng
>>81738011
Tony almost destroyed all humanity with Ultron, now he wants someone to be in charge of him so he can't do stupid shit anymore.
>>81738367
Thanks mate.
>>81737733
That's actually a strong critique of the United Nations that's been raised before, that they don't act when they should because of agendas. Like they spend peacekeepers into oil-rich Kuwait but dragged their heels during the Rwandan genocide.
>>81737733
>the UN is more powerful than Hydra
Hydra came this close
>the UN is more powerful than the World Security Council
The WSC serves the same function as this universe's UN, doesn't it?
>the UN is more powerful than S.H.I.E.L.D
lel
Rhodes is an idiot.
>>81738552
*sent
>>81737790
He believes regulation is the most logical way to protect humanity.
>>81738045
>>81738097
The movie wasn't good but come on, he goes through the wall with him. Superman carries him off; he's leading with his fist.
BvS wasn't a good film but people just make shit up to make it sound worse.
>>81738576
Rhodes follows orders, the IM movies made it clear.
>>81738210
>Thinks for thanking of me
kek
>>81738576
WSC was basically analogous to the UN Security Council, and SHIELD was subservient to it. So, basically UN>WSC>SHIELD. It's that way in the comics, too, where SHIELD is more blatantly an arm of the UN.
>>81738210
>that line at the end
poor scott
>>81737733
>UN
>doing shit
What are they gonna do? Sanction them?
>>81738576
He's military, semper fi and all that shit, his loyalty is with 'murka no matter what.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cR6Xa6fEAg&nohtml5=False
This explains pretty well why Tony is pro reg and Cap anti reg in the movies. For those of you who didn't watch all of them/didn't pay attention.
>>81738274
Iron Man and Spider-Man are the only reasons why I'm seeing it too, anon.
Aaaaaaand Ant-Man, of course.
>>81738674
Yeah, they should sanction the Avengers with their armies. OH WAIT
>>81738367
Also, a fundamental characteristic of Cap is that he doesn't like bullies, and he doesn't like the idea of his or his allies abilities being used as a potential arm for bullies in higher echelons of government.
>>81738576
>Rhodes is an idiot
No he isn't. He's just uber loyal to his country and Tony.
>>81738210
>Tic Tac
Falcon salty as fuck for being defeated against type-advantage.
>>81738735
>the one time bug was super effective against flying
>>81738210
why is she so perfect?
>>81738367
Pretty sure the Wanda vision didn't happen til after all those events.
>>81738674
>>81738752
I was going for more of a "these are inciting incidents, these are what tony does as a reaction" sort of thing. Guess it didn't come off that way.
>>81738148
>someone who overreacts to bad situations.
this is pretty much Tony in a nutshell
>vision wearing clothes
kek
>>81738707
>>81738274
Idiots
>Cap's the obedient army boy at first, starts distrusting authority more and more through the movies. The SHIELD/HYDRA incident is what makes him oppose oversight and registration.
>Tony starts as the rebel who says fuck you to authority, as the movies progress he becomes more inclined to submit to authority. The Ultron fuckup and the SW vision is what makes him really paranoid and guilty, so oversight is what he seeks the most right now.
It's not that hard to understand why Cap is anti-reg and Tony is pro-reg in Civil War. The character development they go through is what brings them to this point.
>>81739045
Again, Cap is against bullies. More and more, he's seeing how these authorities are trying to use him and people like him to bully and oppress those that don't have power, and he dislikes it.
>>81738210
>Those memes and quips
FUCKING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jHF4GyxC48
B-roll footage
>>81739129
There's not a single quips besides "tic-tac"
Can you people even watch comedies, anymore?
>>81738735
Go back to Portugal
>>81738367
I hope redditlettermedia knew this
>>81738210
I'm laughing my ass off. Not because of the comedy itself, of course, but because they totally nailed Scott walking out of a comedy movie and right into fucking Civil War.
>>81739129
Its Ant-Man making them, who gives a shit
>>81739130
>1:09
Holy shit, that poor guy.
I'm hyped for Civil War but those scenes feel like a TV show.
>>81739201
I don't know why you're referencing them.
>>81738720
YOU DON´T HAVE AN ARMY!
>>81738210
>dat spec squeeze cut off from the bottom
>>81739130
the panther costume is fucking perfect
so based
>>81739129
>>81739191
All jokes are cancer go back to le reddit We watch serious movies here like Batman and Superman's Dawn of Justice League
>>81739241
Falcon should tell the UN to just shut. the. fuck. up.
shutthefuckup
As he speaks into five different microphones.
>>81739130
>Bucky vs Cap
>dat goofy Evans nod
kek
>>81739130
>Elizabeth Olsen panting and grunting
WEW
E
W
>>81737932
Well to be fair, they weren't wearing there costumes.
>>81738210
>I know you too, you're great.
kek'd
>>81739130
>4:29
Death by snu snu.
>>81739196
Did you also like my Thor 3 suggestion on how to avoid Hershlag?
>>81739130
I love how much this looks like a Tokusatsu film.
>>81739722
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>81738170
What the fuck happened to Rhodey's actor? Did he get cancer or something? He looks like he weighs 80 pounds.
>>81739773
Don Cheadles always been lanky as shit
>>81739773
he got real skinny to play miles davis in a movie he directed
heard it was a good one, that
>>81738748
>a bug beat a bird
>>81739816
Uh oh, we got a non-native English speaker here.
>>81737733
>Cap is pro-choice
I don't know how to feel about this.
>>81738210
Why is Scott socute?
>>81739816
>>81739722
Ah right so you are just an idiot who doesn't know what a quip is and just follows the lead of smarter idiots
>>81738178
>>81738367
Really good posts. Thanks anons.
>>81738210
Is there anyone who doesn't cop a feel when they meet Cap? Lol because I totally would too.
>>81738274
>>81738707
You guys missed a good movie then but yeah I can understand that.
>>81739919
uh oh he seems distraught :(
>Bucky killscap/spoiler]
Why should I be hyped again?
>>81739960
That doesn't happen, he goes apeshit at HQ and fights everyone.
>>81738748
Okay I laughed.Still finishing Pokemon X and struggling to find a good flying pokemon
>>81739900
Don't kid yourself anon, you'd probably sperg out even worse than Scott if you met Cap.
>Welcome to the team anon.
>Y-you too.
>>81739130
>Cap jacks another person's ride
he can't keep getting away with it
>>81739960
Because you're an idiot who believes anything he reads.
Captain America:Civil War is the greatest capekino film ever created by man and shall never be usurped.
See now you're hype again
>>81739960
>>81739976
Why does Bucky kill Steve? Aren't they friends?
Dammit Marvel, stop showing trailers. My hype is too big, it's too tempting to watch it.
>>81739981>struggling to find a good flying pokemon in a generation where talonflame exists
>>81740002
But the leaks are real
>Zemo has a cloning chamber
>Spiderman shows up at the airport scene
>Sokvia records
>>81738210
I feel like another intent of this movie is for more people to love Scott
>>81739991
>fucking spaghetti coming out of anon's pockets and boots and shirt
The best thing is you'd know Cap is totally cool and would understand and not judge
I don't want too sound like Hack Snyder but there are too many cuts I get that the Russos are tv directors but still
>>81740022I picked Fennekin. I don't want to have another fire pokemon
THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyqa_h7slx4
We get reviews tomorrow, right? I wonder if they'll contain spoilers.
>>81739130
Are those CG tracking dots on BP's mask? Are they animating his eyes?
>>81739214
I wonder if villain organizations provide good healthcare or they just save costs for doomsday weapons by hiring temps.
>>81740127
>picking firefox
found the problem.
just kidding, use mons you like! have you tried out vivillon? it can be great in game, maybe a bit redundant coverage with delphox. what about gyarados?
>>81739130
>1:16
I'm thinking Bucky is gonna get a lot of great hand to hand sequences. The UN assault, the escape from the police in the apartment building, probably more.
>>81738216
The kids never cared about those types of scenes to begin with, anyway. Its there so the film can scrape by and actually be considered movie instead of action sequences.
I mean, TWS was full of those talky talky scenes like this, but its still highly regarded. Gotta have some faith my man
>>81740074
Based Ants. I'm so glad he'll get a sequel.
>>81740334
Looks like he's about to orgasm.Not that I blame him.
>>81740230
I'm not a big pokemon nerd to know stats and shit like that, though I'm reading a lot now that I'm playing X, and I usually pick on aesthetics.
A guy sold me his 3DS and Pokemon Ruby, so currently I traded his pokemon to mine and got a bunch (Dragonite, Ho-Oh, etc), but it feels like cheating and I just want to catch and raise my own.
>>81739130
I never really think about how weird it is to be an actor untill I watch these things and it's just total silence and actors grunting
>>81740383
cool dude, i hope you enjoy the game.
don't wanna talk your ear off about strategies and shit, but if you have questions i'd be happy to help out.
might want to stay away from vp for a while...the lack of leaks about the new games has got everyone a little stir-crazy
>>81738751
Holy fuck
>>81739624
how so?
>>81740228
They're temps.
Trust me I'm an account manager for a temp agency. This is the exact kind of contract we'd work on
i like how they're "incognito" but still wearing color coordinated uniforms
>>81739214
Cap of Murder
>>81740493I don't go to /vp/ really. I guess my biggest question right now is what decent flying pokemon should I get, so I'll just check out your answers in the prev post. I also want you to know that I fucked up by wasting my masterball on Xerneas. I'm still a bit moody about that shit.
>>81739130
>That Bucky/Widow fight
>He's actually just eating her out
>>81740761
hey man don't sweat it. you might only get 1 master ball but what else would you use it on? to me, seeing the legendary mon on the box art is reason enough
>>81740761
>I don't go to /vp/ really
I wonder if that one obsessive shitposter is still operating over there.
>>81740749
Manslaughter anon
>>81740189
>yfw they give him panther eyes
>>81739130
>Black Widow using her wrist-bites again
FINALLY. The batons were so pointless
>>81738176
Show me a body
>>81740918
>/vp/
>obsessive shitposting
you'll have to be more specific
...unless you mean...if it concerns the gender of a pseudo legendary
>>81738187
>beating up a jew
who wouldn't be?
>>81738187
Gotta eat up Disney cereal
>>81737733
I wonder when anyone is going to address what MCU is doing to Tony. In IM2 his confidence in his tech is compromised when he learns his father had help with the arc reactor. In Avengers he sees how vulnerable the Earth is and that fear drives literally everything he does afterwards. He's forced to confront his own limitations as a man in a metal suit in IM3, his paranoia leads to Ultron being created, and now his fear is forcing him to side with the UN, even though this trailer makes it seem like he feels there is no choice. Tony is overcompensating, constantly. He tries to protect the planet from aliens, goes too far. Tries to reign in his friends, goes too far. So far Tony is the antagonist of the MCU.
>>81741036
RDJ said in the panel that Tony's arc in the MCU is to start with an arrogant dickhead and slowly peel back the layers of pretention and show him what a jerk he's been.
By contrast, Steve is perfect and has never made a bad decision up until this point where he does something potentially selfish for personal reasons.
>>81741036
I can dig that
>>81738217
>Did not watch Winter Soldier though
Watch it, it's basically the best movie in the MCU.
>>81737733
Why is vision wearing cloths.
>>81741267
Gotta look the dapperest next to Wanda-fu, anon.
>>81737733
Are Rhodes and Falcon good friends?
>>81740099
Especially since Skinny Steve also spilled his spaghetti, remember TFA?
He probably would love you more for it.
>>81741336
not all black guys know each other, anon
>>81741297
I want to see him doing silly human stuff to impress her,
This is the first thing I've seen that has me interested in this movie. RDJ and Evans did a really good job selling this conflict, and I'd believe they could come to blows over it.
>>81741336
Probably not. They are both air force.
Falcon is an 'ace' special ops soldier who wants to make his calls.
War Machine is a high-rank official company man who probably dislikes the mavericks.
Also they know one of them is bound to die first, and they probably feel uneasy.
>>81741395
Say Wanda. What's the deal with airplane food?I've never actually flown in one, since that's a waste of money. Why is everyone always talking about it?
>>81739995
grand theft auto
>>81740009
lol brainwashing lmao
>>81738576
>I'm an idiot.
>>81740073
>bucky clone
we metal gear now
>>81740971
She's used them before I think
>>81741117
I think with Steve is more of having someone who is believed to be selfless and who mostly is, having made a selfish decision for one person but at the cost of everyone elseand if some of the leaks are to be believed he is going to be the one that ultimately pays for that selfishness
Steve was never perfect though that's shown in the Avengers movies, even in his own.
>>81741766
Yeah, i know, since Iron Man 2 i think. Now that i think about she probably used them in AoU too alongside the batons, just they became electric or something
>>81737866
>Vash17
>paid marvel shill
>>81740103
Cuts are editing.
>>81738210
I think I'm falling in love with Ant-Man, is this normal?
>>81740886
You're cool, anon. I'll remember you whenever I play pokemon now. I'd name my starter in Ruby after you if I could.
>>81738187
>HELP ME KICK TONY'S ASS, BUCKO!
Definitely rooting for my manletbro to wreck the Aquabats' retarded cousin and his buttbuddy's shit.
>>81740073
>Sokovia Records
Where can i buy this?
>>81741370
>He probably would love you more for it.
My heart can't take thisnicenessanon
>>81742333
haha, appreciate it man. i just like the games, glad i could help out
>Vision on a suit
Woah, the /tv/ spoilers were right. Good movie confirmed.
>>81740073
What was so bad about the /tv/ leaks? The dude that gave us the plot said it was really good.
>>81741437Most US airlines have shitty food because there isn't any real incentive to pay good money for good food besides stuff you can put in the microwave. Usually only business class and above get anything good. Although /ck/ does have occasional threads regarding airplane and school food and airlines like Korea Air and whatnot have much more visually appealing food.
>>81737973
>This is not the other director so it will be good
I want to think like you, anon...
>>81741117
If the leak is real then Steve is still Mr.I do everything right and Tony is still Mr. I've done everything wrong.
Basically, their usual pattern.
>>81740982
SHHH!
He´s in the walls!
>>81742803
Dude, I wasn't asking the question. Are you the Drax from the other thread?
>>81742864
>Are you the Drax from the other thread?
Oh shit the tic tacs anon
tony is right
no oversight leads to ultron, which is why tony is pushing for that
you can still "break the law" and refuse/act certain orders, but only if there's a good justification for it
>>81742960
BERNFAGS GET OUT
MAGA 2016
>>81742526
These leaks?
http://pastebin.com/AXNqT8ij
>>81743009
>trump supporters suck dick the best
I'm not American, so maybe I don't get it.
>>81737866
I didn't want to start consolewar shit, but this is honestly exactly what I thought.
>>81743063
>I'm not American
Sorry for you loss
>>81738036
Did he say that out loud or type it? Either way he sounds like a gigantic faggot, who the fuck talks like that? It's as if someone forced him to say that at gun point and he's really nervous.
>>81738210
>that stern tone
>that bulk
This is Evans at his most Cap, I'm excited.
>>81738036
He's right. Look at the OP's trailer; discusion their thoughts on the Registration Act outside costume.
>>81742960
>no oversight leads to ultron
It leads to Ultron if you're Tony Stark
>>81737733
>Iron Man 2
>Tony tells congress to fuck off
>Winter Soldier
>Cap discovers Shield is secretly Hydra
>Tony wants to answer to anyone
Is it really Ultron almost wiping out the planet that caused this change?
>>81737972
>>81738032
>>81738061
>>81738097
>>81738176
>+$1 added to your PayPal account
>>81740189
They probably just add the silver eyes on later because you can't actually see through them. You can't do stunts as well if you can't see what you're doing.
>>81743223
Yes. He realized that him being left to his own devices lead to him creating Ultron to try and "protect" the world.
>>81743155
Vision is fucking red.
>>81743502
And capeless in business casual attire.
>>81739130
so bucky becomes evil again???
>>81737790
What I got from AoU is that he feels he serves life. He regretted a unique form of like like Ultron had to be destroyed (and it's entirely possible he spared the last Ultron since the camera view switched from them and all we saw was a flash).
At any rate he'd seem more likely to go along with order rather than Cap's rebellion, believing a properly measured response is the best means of protecting humanity. Checks and balances to powered beings would make sense.
Unfortunately I don't think he's fully realized yet how short-sighted and bull-headed humans can be, especially politicians. The first time he sees a country where people are starving, dying from disease, but he's ordered not to help because that country is under UN sanctions that restrict aid he'll hit that moment of Does Not Compute that equates to, "You monkeys are nuts."
>>81743155
And yet I don't think they are wearing their casuals because it's worried they can't talk about this stuff in costume, it's to emphasize that in or out of costume this is an issue that doesn't go away. There are matters that don't respect that you are "off the clock." And yes there is merit in showing them dealing with issues like that while dressed as "real people" - which doesn't preclude them having discussions in costume, which will no doubt happen as it's happened in the past.
Can Thor not talk amongst his people? Can Wonder Woman? Does it change cause their "costumes" are closer to their people's natural dress? What about the Guardians of the Galaxy? Do we need to see Drax and Rocket dressed in a suit or casual sweats before they can discuss anything with credibility?
It's a super hero movie, it's not The Godfather or Citizen Kane. Embrace what it is. When you start acting like you can't handle the costumes, like you're embarrassed, you've done your movie a disservice. The director's job is to sell what is in the script, find a way to make it work, and if he can't handle the genre maybe he's working on the wrong kinds of movies.
>>81737866
WSC was the stand in for a "private" version of the UN, which oversaw SHIELD.
When it was revealed that SHIELD was Hydra, it broke both SHIELD and the WSC.
Right now if they care to mention it, SHIELD is the "private" version of the UN and the ATCU is the "public" version of the WSC if that makes sense
>>81738210
>yeah well what else is new
damn
>>81738178
Tony is also probably a little pissed Bucky killed his parent too
>>81740334
I know that feeling, Scott
>>81741036
Tony Stark is the Jimmy Newtron of the MCU. He basically fix his own sciency mistakes.
And "you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain". Tony's been the hero, now he's thinking of world security, and by making the scope bigger, his actions get more and more morally gray.
>>81743223
Don't forget Iron Man 3, where he realizes he should care more about world security and his capabilities as "the mechanic" for building something meanignful for mankind in his lifetime and not just punch his ways with the Iron Man suit as a hero.
>>81737733
Vision in a suit makes me happy for some reason. I blame King.
The amount of butthurt is unreal in these threads.
I'm sorry batman-slaughter vs superbland was bad, no need to be a console warsfag about it.
>>81743223
Not quite. Tony is a smart guy and there';s the tendency for smart people to think they have all the answers, especially narcissists like Stark. He thinks that putting someone in charge (ie him) is the best way to deal with this problem.
Cap on the other hand believes in personal freedom as the best way to keep things safe. It's classic Individualism vs Collectivism.
>>81739241
YOU DON'T HAVE A HULK!
>>81738210
What the fuck, why would Scott allow himself to be on the side of the war that means he could go BACK TO FUCKING PRISON AGAIMN
>>81738367
Perfectly put, I've struggled explaining this to my friends
>>81748003
Because in his eyes, it's the right thing to do. It wouldn't be the first time he stood up to a higher authority because he didn't like the way they acted.
It's why he got sent to prison in the first place, and it's part of why he decided to help Pym, even if it meant dying and losing his daughter.
>>81737790
>um.. Vision?
>I agree
>>81748003
But everything he did in his movie was going outside the law, so this isn't really any different. It's actually character consistency that he keeps getting in these situations, since the first time he went to prison it was for exposing crooked shit but in a way the law didn't appreciate.
This is more like the story of his life right now, which he even alludes to.
>>81739130
I love seeing stuff like this.
God damn, every time tony opens his mouth he sounds like a moron. How can anyone take his side seeiously?
>>81749526
Well apparently not many people do.
>>81739130
this looks better than any of the trailers
also
>that panther
please be good
>>81737733
Based Rhodey! Team War Machine
>>81740127
Hawlucha exists.
>>81750213I caught him but didn't train him yet. Does he qualify for sky battles? Cause I remember reading he doesn't. And I don't really dig his looks, sorry anon.
>>81750162
Team Dead Guy then.
>>81750604
Hey, he dies in battle, maybe Thor can take him to Valhalla so he can drink ans fuck for all eternity
>>81750669
It was more a rib at comic Rhodey.
>>81750362
The only pokemon that qualify for sky battles are pokemon that fly in their animations
>>81750669
>tfw we're going to see Cap in Valhalla in Thor 3
>>81743223
Winter Soldier showed that those in the government can't be trusted, because the senator leading the charge for Tony to surrender his Iron Man tech was a goddamn Hydra agent. And in Age of Ultron, they were still fighting Hydra, so they should know they're still active and possibly still embedded in positions of power. I'd cite Agents of Shield as an example, but the MCU doesn't give a shit about that.
>>81750909
Didn't Strucker first show up in AoS?
I hope the movies don't paint Tony as a villain like the comics did.
Because he is fucking right
>>81750909
Corruption of the government is a good reason to fight agains corruption, not a justification for letting people walk arround with the power to end the world with no supervision at all.
>>81751398
>Cap
>Having the power to end the world
>>81751328
>Because he is fucking right
No, he literally just needs a little self control.
Civil War is dumb.
Civil War was dumb.
Civil War will always be dumb.
>>81751505
ur mom
>>81751328
Shut up Tony
>>81751443
What about Wanda? Hulk? Thor? Vision?
Would you want people who can do what they can do have as much freedom as they have?
>>81751555
Well, who is the manlet now?
>>81751645
>>81751555
btfo
>>81751398
But that's exactly the bloody point, the 'supervision' would compromised either by Hydra in the seat of power directly like Gideon Malick, or people Hydra are manipulating like General Talbot. You can't fight corruption when you're under it's yoke.
>>81748003
>allowing more people to know about his daughter
This one clip here gives me so much faith in the movie.
>>81751328
MCU Tony is objectively wrong, there's no way around it.
>>81737733
>Its the UN
>Its not the World Security Council
The UN has no power...the world security council actually has power...is War Machine retarded?
>>81737733
>Libertarian Cap
>Wanda sitting next to Vision
Russos already better than Whedon
>>81753395
The UN would get power. They'd get the Avengers.
WSC didn't. Fury told them to fuck off.
SHIELD was a shitshow, so hydra gets all the blame.
>>81737733
A no-prize to whoever finds the classical painting that they used to reference this scene.
>>81738210
>I'm just here to supply the memes
>>81753652
Got it! It's actually fromZackus Snyderusduring his gothic phase.
>>81737733
I can't be the only one that noticed how massive cap's cock is looking right there...
>>81754048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLLKMiVL3O8
>Thor attracted a unstobable armor and a space army that destroyed NY, killed many civilians and tryed to enslave the human world
>Tony created a AI that almost destroyed life on Earth
>Scarled Wich mind controled the Hulk and made him go rampaging on a crowded city
>Ant Man's technology proved to be capable of destroying entire buildings like it was nothing
>Many other heroes can pretty muchdestroy the civilizated world whenever they want
JUST LET US BE FREE TONY! WE ARE NOT EVIL! THE GOVERNMENT HAVE AGENDAS! MUH BUCKY!
>>81743372
But we are anonymous, how can Disney pay us for shilling in a chinese board?
>>81742803
Actually, humans can't perceive taste at all when compressed in high altitudes.
