http://comicsalliance.com/wonder-woman-star-gal-gadot-says-her-solo-film-is-pretty-dark/
>>81600764
>WWI
>not dark
>>81600764
No shit. It's about WWI. Watch dumbasses get assblasted about this 'news' though.
>>81600764
Badass costume
>>81600764
Sorry. Is this news to anyone?
It just kinda follows form for WB doesn't it?
I hope it's good and DC gets their shit together
I also thinkZack Snyder is a good director and I don't get why his superman movies turned out so shit
>>81600872
they turned to shit because he doesnt really care about superman.
>>81600764
>comicsalliance
The Kotaku of comic books
>>81601055
but CA is based
>>81600872
Cause he cant tell a story. 300 was good cause there was no story needed, just combat.
>>81600872
Because he not only does not understand how to tell an actual story, but he doesn't get the characters he's adapting. The only thing he knows how to do competently is manipulate CGI in his favor.
Pic related.
You damn well know you only like his previous movies because of the fight scenes, nothing more.
>>81601393
I honestly think Sucker Punch is good
>>81601493
Literally no one thinks that.
Fuck off 1.jpg fag
>>81601393
He's so uncomfortable with this medium. Its never going to actually reach Good with him at the center of all of this.
>>81600797
>>81600808
The problem is that they shouldn't have place it in WWI at all. And now they can't go back after the BvS backlash.
Remember that a lot of people are saying Wonder Woman is the best part because she "injects fun" to it. Even Peter David said that.
But now her solo movie will be more depressing than MoS and BvS combined. People won't be happy about that.
Suicide Squad was going to be the most fun movie of the DCEU, and even then the execs are already meddling with it.
They will definitely mess with WW.
>>81601661
Eh, WW1 gets few movies as it is. If they kept it WW2 it would get more Cap 1 comparisons.
>>81601838
You don't get it. There's no reason to be WW1 or WW2.
>>81600872
Snyder is an odd case. He has great (if dark) aesthetics and gets solid performances from his actors, but he struggles on story construction.
>>81600872
Because he wants them to be "important" I bet people would love JL if it were more like 300 and a lot less like Warchmen
>Tim Allen says his new solo film is pretty dark
>>81601393
What I don't get is how he thinks he's a huge comics fan when he clearly does not like them much.
Isn't the Vertigo panel at ECCC today? Where are all the announcements?
>>81601838
I don't get this
do people think Marvel invented WWII or something?
>>81601393
>but he doesn't get the characters he's adapting
Yes he absolutely fucking does.
CHOOSING to do a earth one style and toned Superman does not fucking mean he doesn't get classic Superman. It just means he prefers such a version of thinks it will be easier to work on film.
How many times are you alzheimers patients going to be surprised by DC fucking up their live action adaptations? I'll bet you're the ones that keep watching Arrow, too.
>>81602095
That's Tom Hanks
>>81600764
>[Insert DC hero here]'s movie is going to be dark
>WHAT?!
Every time....
>>81602143
More it seems that they feel they are very simlar films themselves.
>>81602240
Well, every time they make a grimdark movie...
>>81601661
If you're gonna have Ares be in it, then WWI is one of the best wars to choose from
The whole thing was a clusterfuck and more than just "those guys and those guys, one of them is bad and the other good"
>>81602344
Wonder Woman origin is not tied to specific wars. She was created during WW2 but every retelling of her origin in the main continuity is set in the modern day.
>>81602148
This isnt earth 1 superman at all. Even that child was far more capable.
This is Hyperion all the way through.
>>81600764
I love how you MCU drones just literally cant grasp DC. DC comics are not "fun" by and large. Why the fuck would the movies be? To appeal to casual faggots? No thank you. Id rather get movies accurate to DC's normal tone for only 1 phase than get multiple phases of them trying to ape Marvel.
>>81602617
This honestly and most Marvel characters didnt act like that until the movies. They turned them all into Spiderman.
>>81600872
>I also think Zack Snyder is a good director and I don't get why his superman movies turned out so shit
Because he's not. None of his movies are good they are just visually striking.
>>81602663
That makes me wonder how Spidey will be handled in Civil War. Will he be a shy teenager or will he outquip quipmasters like Iron Man and Hawkeye?
>>81600872
I don't get how you think Zack is a good director and hated his DC movies when they are like 1 third of all the movies he's directed.
>WW1
>Prequel to BvS on why Diana gave up on man's world
why, did people actually think it will be all flowers?
>>81602730
Maybe they expected something other than yet another cinematic equivalent of a graveyard
Also, a lot of people don't even know what's happening in the solo movie. Most who have seen even think it's WW2.
>>81602796
See >>81602617.
Im so fucking sick of hearing how these movies should be "what people expect" when people don't want these movies to be DC at all.
>>81602710
When everyone is Spiderman, no one is Spiderman.
>>81600764
source on OP pic?
>>81602617
>Superhero movies should appeal to the fans and not the normies!
This is the most idiotic thing DCucks have come up with.
>>81600764
>DARK WONDERWOMAN
>No Grail, Superwoman, Injustice Wondy or Nubia in sight
Fucking clickbaity OP.
>>81602875
Its not about that you stupid fuck. DC properties have always been dark and serious by and large. If you don't like that you shouldn't go see a DC movie. They shouldn't make the movies not fit with the normal tone of DC simply because faggots like you are use to "fun."
>>81602344
The only war that comes to mind in terms of similar clusterfuckness is the 30 year's war.
>>81602927
>DC properties have always been dark and serious by and large.
You mean Batman
HOW DO THEY KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>81602990
No I mean all of them. Outside of like Booster and Blue Beetle most DC properties have dealed with serious issues and the heroes always took themselves seriously. Sorry you created an idea in your head of how these heroes acted based off of cartoons and movies.
>>81602875
I was always believed that media properties should pander to me personally. I am aware that it's not possible, but I frankly don't give a fuck about all of the other people's tastes.
>>81600872
He is an objectivist. That means a character like Superman, a being who has immense power but uses it selflessly to help others, is at odds with his worldview.
Superman goes against the whole Ayn Rand notion of humanity.
Whereas Donner's movie's wholeheartedly celebrated Superman's altruism, Snyder's scenes of Supes saving people are joyless.
>>81603124
Yeah man him smiling when he rescued that mexican girl sure was joyless.
>>81601879
There is; it was at the time of the suffragette movements.
It's a perfect fit for WW.
>>81601661
>>81600808
>>81600797
Yeah. Why on Earth would you set Wonder Woman in WWI? Someone at Warners been watching Downton Abbey? WW, and the superhero genre itself, comes from WWII. And side from dour dramas like Downton Abbey or maybe War Horse, when the fuck has World War I ever been popular in film and tv? No war is sunshine and lollipops, but WWI was a particularly nasty time period as technology of industrialized weaponry far outpaced old tactics. Those battlefields were fucking brutal meat ginders. It is fucking depressing. I honestly don't know how to film an action movie in such an enviroment.
There was that one James Franco movie that was about WWI dogfights. I saw it and kinda liked it, but it bombed at the box office.
Americans really don't give a shit about WWI and in Europe it is just a source of somber remorse.
Who the fuck thought that was a place for Wonder Woman?
Sufferage is a bullshit excuse too. WWII had plenty of feminist elements even post-sufferage.
>>81603219
>I think my personal opinions about something are fact and I present them as such
>>81601661
>Remember that a lot of people are saying Wonder Woman is the best part because she "injects fun" to it.
She showed some leg and smiled a bit during the Doomsday fight. People are so desperate for anything good in that fucking movie.
>>81603186
Wonder Woman was the product of feminism -after- sufferage. Feminism and the fight for women's rights didn't end when they got the vote.
>>81603277
Not people, liberal critics. They can't say anything bad about a female hero so they trashed the movie but complimented her.
>>81600764
Who gives a shit, it's not like anybody's gonna watch a WW movie except Tumblr feminists. You know it's gonna pander to them hard enough to give even a moderate liberal a seizure.
>>81603219
>>81603331
Except everything is problematic. They are already pissed that Patty Jenkins said she wants the Amazons to wear heels for "wish fullfilment" and the Amazons pic not showing any "Amazon of Color"
Even that suffragette movie suffered backlash because "only white wymyn".
>>81603277
This. WW didn't have the shit tons of baggage and angst Superman had. Batman of course should have it, but it was over the top and Superman was not contrasting. So the blank slate of movie WW just being a hero was a breathe of fresh air.
Wonder Woman movie should do the following:
1. Embrace the fantastical aspect of the character and her origins.
2. It should have feminist undertones; it's about an Amazonian Goddess after all. But it should not be ham-fisted about it and present it in an intelligent way.
3. Allow WW to be flawed and not turn her into a Mary Sue.
>>81603420
People didn't pay attention to what she says in the graveyard scene.
>>81603398
DESU the comics Amazons do look like a United Colors of Benetton ad these days.
>>81602875
I never got where you casuals got this sense of entitlement. Why exactly should movies about characters comic book readers have been supporting for decades appeal to you instead? If you answer money that isn't a legitimate reason. Obviously they want to make money but you don't do so by shitting on your established fan base in hopes of getting new fans.
>>81603470
Oh fuck you, word filter.
>>81603443
>3. Allow WW to be flawed and not turn her into a Mary Sue.
That's a big no with the audience. People hate Snyder's Superman because of that.
>>81603476
hundreds of thousands > thousands
>>81603476
>Why exactly should movies about characters comic book readers have been supporting for decades appeal to you instead?
Because movies are the broader media that makes normies get into comics. You don't make movies for a tiny demographic that already reads comics and ignore the vast majority.
>>81603256
> Wonder Woman being invented during WWII is merely my opinion
>>81603322
Gadot wasn't even particularly striking or charismatic when she was just messing with Bruce Wayne.
>>81601542
Sup Kraven
>>81603574
Fuck off, Xenos.
>>81603549
>>81603551
So you are saying completely ignore the established tone and quality that makes DC DC, in favor of mass appeal to make money? No thank you, fuck right off with that, I'd rather every movie fail.
>>81600764
Makes sense. WWI was pretty fucked up. Not to mention that the shit she saw was so bad it made her give up on the rest of the world for 100 years.
>>81603672
There's no established tone
>>81603124
Listen to this filthy parasite. Altriusm is a cancer to America. Go back to smoking your hippy weed and throwing your vote away with that commie Sanders.
>>81603694
Yes there fucking is. DC has by and large especially in the main cast been serious characters that take their job seriously and they deal with real issues. There definitely fucking is an established tone for a company that has been around since the 40s.
>>81600764
Can't wait to see all the CGI bodywork they do on all her action scenes like in the doomsday fight.
>>81600764
>Set in WWI
>People are going to complain it's not as fun as MCU movies
>No quips
DC literally can't win.
>People being triggered by a dark world war film
Wow, marvel has rewired everyone's brain into wanting quipshit
>>81603672
>I'd rather every movie fail
Yeah, but you are not WB.
I personally also don't give a fuck about company bottom line, but them's the brakes. Be thankful they have not gone full quipstragavanza yet.inb4 SS reshoots
>>81603771
SS will be fun, though, right?
>>81603803
>>81603804
No. Jai Courtney confirmed yesterday in an interview that the reshoots are several action scenes.
>>81603398
>Even that suffragette movie suffered backlash because "only white wymyn".
I...what? Do they not know what suffragettes are? Or do they just expect thousands of Sojourner Truths to pop out of the ether because reasons?
>>81603743
Dude, stop embarassing yourself
>>81603794
Careful, people will call you a DCshill for saying this
>>81603398
So wait a minute. I just realized something. Are white woman the most privileged group out there that don't get shit for their privilege? Amazons rape sailors for their entire history so there must be mixed races in their society.
>>81603794
>>81603771
>Set in WWI
Their own fault
Saving Private Ryan was a dark war movie, but it still had room for heartfelt emotion and inspiring moments. It showed every part of human nature.
I'm just hoping it also leaves room to show her as more than just a warrior.
>>81603794
This. It's a fucking world war movie.
>>81603849
Im not embarassing myself casual you being a little faggot that doesn't want DC properties to be the same tone that DC comics by and large always have been are the only one ITT embarassing himself.
I bet you think Cap and Iron Man have always been quipmasters. Casuals already ruined a bunch of my favorite characters. I don't need them ruining more for "mass appeal."
>>81601493
Just the visuals, right?
>>81603890
Its directed by a woman, expect shitty fights and muh feelings.
>Could make Wonder Woman appear in modern day and be the fish out of the water/young idealist of the League
>Choose to set her origin on WWI and make it kill her idealism leaving her depressed and cynical for 100 years into the modern day
>"OF COURSE IT WILL BE DARK! IT'S WWI! DC CAN'T WIN! IT'S NOT FAIR!"
>>81603050
That is wrong on so many levels. Hell, even more comedic DC books like 80s JLI took themselves seriously. You can be serious about heroes and not have the tone of a fucking funeral dirge like Snyder's shit.
Morrison's JLA was very serious but also very hopeful and fun and downright fucking crazy at points.
Even Kingdom Come and Dark Knight Returns, which were set in horrible dark apocalyptic futures to mirror the horrors of current society, had levity and comedy and fun tones to them.
>>81603124
Why'd he make 300 then?
>>81603933
DC was always more lighthearted in general than Marvel
If you think there's a "dark tone" set in the DCU it's because you were probably born in the 2000s
>>81603794
>>81603878
Shhhh you're upsetting the quipbots
They can't watch a movie without witty oneliners every minute
>>81601542
>Literally no one thinks that.
>>81603987
Not that guy but where were the comedy in Kingdom Come and Dark Knight Returns? Or Teen Titans for that matter? Or current JL?
>>81603974
>>81603886
The young idealistic Diana facing WWI instead of the somewhat less hopeless WWII certainly would fundamentally change the character.
WWI's failings and decimated Europe lead us into WWII.
>>81604011
I was born in the 90s fuck boy.
>>81603987
No it hasn't at all you /tv/ faggot. Having humor doesnt make the issues or characters any less serious. They only ever really joke around in their civies and even then its fucking situational humor like Batman using people on the team to be spies on the rest of the team.
>>81603876
>So wait a minute. I just realized something. Are white woman the most privileged group out there that don't get shit for their privilege?
Pretty much, yeah.
>discriminated against in work and social situations
>still get all the other Status Buffs of being white
>somehow not only a full minority, but one of the top minorities in the US, sharing the top of the dogpile with black men from the 1910s until now
>Amazons rape sailors for their entire history so there must be mixed races in their society.
Not if they kept nabbing people from the same spot. That said, I'm sure they'll have a bunch of brown amazons in there somewhere, because it's [current year].
>>81604076
Absolutely. And it's a terrible thing to do with the character.
But I bet there won't even be a really good reason for it. It will be just Steve being killed.
>>81604046
>>81604046
Ignore Kraven, he's a butthurt fan boy
>>81604093
>Calling Xenos a /tv/ faggotThat's too good for him
>>81602148
Oh fuck off already. You retards went from he's Bryne's Superman to he's edgy Earth One Superman!
It's a been two shit movies and he's fucking incompetent.
>>81604097
>discriminated against in work and social situations
I mean come on it's C U R R E N T Y E A R
>>81604093
DCEU is not just serious. It's dark.
Superman I and II are serious. But they are lighthearted.
DC comics have all sorts of tones. You may argue that most of it is serious. But most of it is not dark.
>>81604157
>It's a been two shit movies and he's fucking incompetent.
That's the point, though. He's not God. He's not the answer to every ones problems. He's just a kid from Kansas trying to carry the world on his shoulders.
>>81604128
>1.jpgfag shows up in every thread
>gets called out everytime
>constantly responds with sup kraven
who the fuck is kraven
>>81604230
How many (1)s did you catch today Kraven?
>>81604192
How the fuck was BvS "dark"? People keep saying this but I didnt see it.
>Bats rushes into metropolis to save people
>Superman saves Mexican girl and smiles
>Supes inspires Batman and WW
>WW ask why Bruce took Doomsday back into the city with clear concern for the population
>Batman clearly loves his city and the people and is just trying to protect them
Its no fucking darker than Year 100 or TDKR or Secret Identity or Azz's WW or Kingdom Come or fucking any other major DC book. Jesus Christ.
>>81604171
I know, right?
We shouldn't even have concepts of "work" or "society" anymore - we should have hit the Singularity and merged into one huge techno-organic hivemind by now!
It's [the current year]!
COME
ON
>>81604309
None of that makes it not dark.
>>81604230
YOU are kraven the hunter.
You are a conspiritard who thinks any one with a 1 in their filename is a dc fan
>>81604097
>women are discriminated against in work and social situations
>status buffs for being white
>>>/tumblr/
>>81604230
>>81604293
>>81604375
WTF is going on?
>>81604396
>/tumblr/
it's right here
>>81604368
It's not dark though
>>81604396
>>>/pol/
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/r9gay/
>>81604368
Elaborate what you mean by dark then please. Do you even fucking know? DC heroes never stand around and joke with each other I'm sorry but go watch something else if you want that. These heroes are coming into their own. Im sure we will get happy idealistic Superman later in MoS 2 or 3 when the general public doesn'f hate him and loving WW once shes been operating in the world for awhile and maybe a gentler Bruce but that is not where these heroes are right now.
Its like everyone wanted these fucking characters to start out as their comic counterparts with no fucking build up or rhyme or reason.
>>81604442
What's wrong, faggot? Are you too #triggered to bother trying to educate the stupid bigoted masses with your enlightened superiority?
I mean come on, how can anyone disagree with your stupid opinions? It's current year! Come on!
>>81604456
Why do you think dark = no jokes?
Batman 89 and Returns were filled with jokes and funny moments, yet they are dark as fuck
>>81604409
Kraven, probably you, is a guy who stalks and hunts down any one with a (1) in their file name
He is pathetic 2bh
>>81601879
>There's no reason to be WW1 or WW2.
They're horrible but cool.
>>81604503
So say what you mean by dark faggot cause you havent fucking said anything except its dark its dark its dark!
HOW FUCKING HOWWWW YOU BRAIN DEAD RETARD. SERIOUS IS NOT FUCKING DARK. THESE HEROES ARENT INSPIRED AND LACKED HOPE SUPES INSPIRED THEM WITH HIS DEATH IT WAS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT.
>>81604502
Lol, so you're some whiny /polgbt/ faggot.
Opinion discarded
>>81604573
Yuck. Like I can't even?
This is so problematic?
>>81604502
Wait, you're seriously man?
Listen, kid, not everyone believes everything they type.
>women are discriminated against in work and social situations
is a contextual statement, not a stand-alone statement. Lurk more, learn how greentexts work and come back when you're 18.
>>81604502
>>81604573
Truly the brightest minds of our time. If only the Greeks could see how far we've come.
>>81603219
The only reason it isn't WWII is because Captain America did it first.
>inb4 STOP TRYING TO START CONSOLEWARS!!1111!
>>81604649
Haha oh wow, this cock gobbling mentally ill /pol/tard is serious?
Wew
Definitely discarded
>>81604230
>Warner would not jeopardize the two biggest heroes on the face of the planet with a bad movie.
I like how he phrased it as if they have a choice. As if they weren't really trying before, but now they're putting all this talent behind it so it has to be good! Warner's moviemaking framework for DC movies is broken in a way that is not reversible in the foreseeable future. They're in the process of destroying Suicide Squad as we speak. They've put the woman who has only made one wide-release movie about a prostitute serial killer and failed to make a Thor movie in charge of Wonder Woman, and given her a supermodel-turned-fast-and-furious-actress as a lead. It's a trainwreck in slow motion, and no one involved has the means to stop it.
>>81604677
They'd be disappointed in our thin skin, poor bantz, weak tactics and lack of pederasty. And they'd be right to feel that way. Maybe Argonians would cut us some slack for capeshit because of how buff everyone is in that stuff, but the other city-states would shit on us hard.
>>81604571
>dark cinematography
>brooding and depressive themes
>excessive violence
>horror imagery
>Explicit gory death of Superman a la Excalibur
>movie ends with 2 funeral scenes
>HOW IS IT DARK????
There's a fucking batdemon in a dream. It makes children cry. The original cut couldn't be PG-13.
>>81604677
>>81604847
Who cares about the Greeks? They were literal degenerate faggots that fucked animals, men and little boys.
>>81600872
Because you think the role of a director is "make things look good" or "have cool fights". It's not. The director's job is to tell a story. Snyder's a music video director. Tha'ts his training. And here's the thing: music videos don't have to make sense. They just have to have good music and cool looking often overly literal scenes.
>>81604905
>Brooding and depressive themes
Because the heroes lacked hope. Supes death inspired them to be hopeful
>Dark cinematography
You mean in a movie about Batman and a conflicted Superman? Wondering fucking why.
>excessive violence
>horror imagery
Hey theres this character called Batman maybe you have heard of him? Hes scary and aggressive and fucks people up.
>Movie ends with 2 funerals
See above statements. Supes is inspiring them to become the heroes we know. Im sorry this wasnt a Marvel movie where everything is contained in one movie and they are loosely tied together. In these movies there are gonna be things that once you see the others will make more sense. That is how they are set up.
>>81605060
>Supes death inspired them to be hopeful
You realize that in effect, Snyder has made Superman into Agent Coulson?
>>81605060
So you go "how is it dark explain how"
and then go "IT'S GOOD THAT IT'S DARK".
So you didn't fucking need it explained in the first place.
>>81604909
And that describes 90% of the board's threads. But what do we have to show for it? What have we produced? Handy Jays and a riff on Jojo's that's slightly more dignified than Diesel? We don't have anything on par with what the ancient Greeks came up with, so they outclass us, it's as simple as that.
>>81605098
Breh idk if youve only seen cape movies but a member of the team dying to inspire people is one of the oldest tropes in existence.
>>81604909
And they still had a better grasp of critical thinking then you've managed all these years later. If that's not literal and I mean literal degeneracy I don't know what is.
>>81605143
I wanted to see what you meant and make sure it wasn't stupid buzz words and I agree with you on all fronts but there are reasons for that. Did you not know Batman was suppose to be scary? Did you not understand this movie was setting them up to become the heroes we know?
I just don't get why these concepts are so hard for people to understand. I don't get why people don't understand character growth and they wanted instant satisfaction.
>>81605155
I never said it wasn't a tired old cliche. I just think it's fucked up that SUPERMAN has the role of a red shirt now., The cornerstone of the entire universe and he's about as useful to the narrative as an OC Do Not Steel because the director couldn't come up with a way for him to be inspiring otherwise.
>>81605060
>claims it's not dark
>proceeds to defend why it's dark
>>81605250
Superman dying to save the earth is pretty fucking Superman dude.
>>81605247
I'm not even >>81604905
I just think that tactic of "I'm gonna pretend like this hasn;t been covered five thousand times and play dumb" thing is played out.
>>81605060
The funeral scenes are very little inspiring. If you just listen to their lines that may be true, but looking at it it's just depressive again.
Besides, only Batman is inspired with hope. Wonder Woman is still cynical. She still doesn't believe in standing together.
>>81605296
But it hasnt been covered 5,000 times in movies. This is the 1st time and you have to address it as such. Being mad they are setting uo reasons for why these characters become the league we know and love doesn't make sense man.
>>81605286
So's not needing drama. So's being Clark Kent. So's telling people that he's not a god to be woshipped.
Clark has only died once. He does other stuff way more that Snyder saw fit to leave out.
>>81605365
So you wanted more scenes of him being Clark and an explicit scene where he says I'm not a god?
>>81605355
>But it hasnt been covered 5,000 times in movies.
I'm not talking about the movies you dumbass. I'm talking about the discussions. When people say "the movie is dark" you're being intentionally obtrusive if you claim you don't know what they're talking about by now.
For a bunch of stupid cunts that claim to be so much smarter and savvy than everyone else you shouldn't need simple concepts spoonfed to you.
>>81605365
>Clark has only died once.
That's a lie. Clark faked died several times.
>>81605412
Ultimately what I wanted was an actual contrasting tone and ideological clash, and Superman is too similar to Batman in this for that to have been rendered effectively.
>>81605421
You are literally the only person who elaborated at all why you felt it was dark and I felt I addressed most of your issues.
Let me counter with a question, if in JL they act like their "normal" selves, will you then look back on BvS and understand why it was like that?
>>81605477
>and Superman is too similar to Batman in this for that to have been rendered effectively.
That's a lie. Superman was a troubled hero full of anguish and guilt and Batman was psychopath full of guilt and anger.
>>81602517
Bullshit, EO's Clark did not give a FUCK about saving people, Snyder's Clark absolutely does.
And he is plenty capable and is shown to learn from his mistakes hence him almost immediately taking Doomsday into space.
And Hyperion isn't incompetent.
>>81604157
>It's a been two shit movies and he's fucking incompetent.
Saving 7-8 Billion people twice in MOS is not incompetence in ANY way shape or form just because the world engine killed people while he was not in Metropolis.
>>81605499
Again, I haven't even done that. Because I'm not >>81604905
And frankly I don't even care that it's a dark movie. I think it has a great big laundry list of faults and its tone is way at the bottom. I just chimed in because again, acting like this is a new argument when it's been going on for three fucking years either means you're shitposting and trying to bait, or in such fingers in ears denial that it borders on actual retardation.
>>81605600
Well idk what to tell you man. The movie had pacing issues but it had a great setup for the league we know and love and a great Batman so idgaf.
>>81605499
>Let me counter with a question, if in JL they act like their "normal" selves, will you then look back on BvS and understand why it was like that?
Yeah, It'll be because Snyder had been fired and WB is doing heavy damage control.
Because no, there is no logical progression to their "normal" selves from this. Especially not for Clark. Coming back from dhe dead wouldn't logically make him act more human, it would set him further apart and throw him even deeper down the god pit.
>>81605654
He acted pretty human I dont see that complaint as being valid.
>Tries to help ppl
>Ppl hate him
>Conflicted over it like any human would be
>Fell in love
>Died saving the people he loved
>>81604152
Yeah. I am a faggot on any board I post on.
>>81604066
Kingdom Come had bits of humor and even had a funny little epilogue. DKR had satire and goofy bits. Plus Miller threw in fun superheroic scenes. I don't get why people insist DKR was a bleak grim story. Too many assholes kept saying that and made shitty 90s comics that were grim for grim sakes. I think Miller is taken aback when people keep saying how grim and dark that book is. I think it mainly comes from mainstream media and casualz who only thought of Adam West's Batman even though DC had been doing darker Batman for like a decade with the likes of O'Neil and Adams and Len Wein and others.
>>81605654
>Supes comes back and the world doesnt hate him so no brooding
>Batman gets a new Robin and stops being so violent
>WW spends time with modern man and sees how far they've come
There they are all back to normal.
>>81605250
He wasn't a red shirt.
He was Spock in Star Trek II... but with the lame fist fight scenes ala Into Darkness.
>>81605794
>WW spends time with modern man
She was on the outside world by at least 2012, which is shown in the movie
But she has actually been on the outside world for 100 years and never returned to the Island
You'll see
>>81605617
Sucker Punch 2 looks awful
>>81605910
>shes distanced herself from humanity and barely interacts with them until the events in Metropolis with Doomsday and after while interacting with the league she sees what a selfless person Bruce is
Boom give me another
>>81605794
> movie starts with scenes of Man Of Steel and BvS
> pans out to show a slightly different League and Booster Gold
> Booster points out this is from am Earth / timeline where Superman didn't understand altruism and heroism and none of them came together as heroes
> Superman says he is glad his parents taught him better and he knows the League of this Earth is of better character
There. Things are and now have always been back to normal.
>>81606035
* > pans out to show some sci fi future screen being watched by the League and Booster
>>81605742
The only bit of levity in KC was the epilogue. It was as serious as a comic gets.
>>81603219
I'd much rather have something new like WW fighting in WWII than WW fighting a 2016 corporate military-industrial complex man who has an army of robots like every other comic book movie.
>>81604409
Some retard who always posts an image thats always filed 1.jpg is in every DC related thread talking about how amazing Snyder is.
When someone calls him out, he thinks its just one person, he replies calling them Kraven the hunter, cause they're hunting him.
1.jpg guy is now pretending he's multiple people even though its almost always a post talking about how great BvS and/or Snyder is.
Personally I think he's either a falseflagger like Xenos, or actually is Xenos with his trip off or an extremely delusional DCfriend. Pic related, he's been posting in this manner for months now.
>>81606137
fighting in WW1*
>>81604905
WE NEED MORE QUIPS ASAP CALL DISNEY
>>81602617
>DC comics are not "fun" by and large.
Oh fuck off you fucking batfag, you're the reason DC is killing off all their solos for more Bat family books and their events are more often than not shit. Multiversity was great because it didn't itself seriously for the most part.
>>81600764
>Wonder Woman
>Dark
JUST fuck WBs shareholders up the ass.
Remember when Marvel was considered the more realistic and edgy one?
>>81601493
Sucker Punch is the only movie to this day to make me actually angry. Its an awful movie with no redeeming values outside of its short action sequences.
>>81606589
This movie will be shit. Wonder Woman is literally 5000 years old in this continuity. The movie is taking place in WWI because they don't want to seem like a rip off of Captain America. Deborah Snyder is just as much a hack as her husband and they're the ones really calling the shots. Gadot can't act for shit and only stood out in BvS because everything else was that fucking bad.
But the idea that Wonder Woman movie can't be dark is stupid. Whether its the Azz run or Rucka, a lot of dark shit goes now. It's literally about a warrior culture.
>>81600764
damn, i hope so, i dont like all this reshoot scenes coz its too dark thing, i really dont
>>81606163
Sup Kraven.
>>81600872
I love his modern take on Batman and Superman, but it's definitely a character building process. He'll be a happier and more hopeful Clark when the League forms and they have actually have people helping this dude out.
>>81603219
>>81604702
>>81601661
>wanting yet another WW2 movie
No thanks
>>81606700
>>81604046
shh, you're talking to a snyderfag
he'll try to spin this rotten audience score into a good thing just like he did with an embarrassing 6.1 on imdb
>>81606719
There are different types of dark. Azz and Rucka were dark like Hellboy. Fun, crazy dark.
The movie will be just drama dark.
WB needs to learn the difference between 'dark' and 'serious'. Dark is a terrible tone for these fucking movies whereas serious (think Singer's X-Men) CAN work.
>>81603641
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>>81604128
>>81604293
>>81604375
>>81604509
>>81606757
Are all Snyderfags this delusional and paranoid?
>>81606719
>Wonder Woman is about warrior culture.
That's pretty sad. It's hard to accept that Wonder Woman is really dead.
>>81600764
I fucking hope it'd be dark. Save the lighter stuff to Billy and Flash. It's WWI.
It's also great that it would be in WWI since it would fit perfectly with a naive Diana trying to help humanity during the a shit time in history. Bright colors, calvary, people thinking it's time to fight for their country only to find trenches, biological warfare, disease, etc. In BvS she said she turned away from man after it so her losing her hope would fit great. If i recall, there is suppose to be a portion of the film after the events of BvS, so juxtaposing her after WWI and her, presumably, helping Bats gather the other League members to fight again would be fanfuckingtastic.
>>81601393
This, he basically makes 2 hour trailers.
>>81606824
Sucker Punch is shit, but stop using RT as some sort of quality barometer. The internet is so obsessed with that fucking site.
>>81606785
pfff lol can't tell if this is real.
>Guys, the artistic choices in Man of Steel will make more sense when we see the sequel.
>Guys, the artistic choices in Batman vs Superman will make more sense when we see the sequel.
DC fans are starting to suffer from battered wife syndrome.
>>81606984
agreed. that said,there are some movies where dark is the perfect tone. if skwad had bvs' tone id be happy. a swamp thing movie should be dark, hell even animal man.
>>81607061
and yet theyre less enjoyable than the trailers sometimes
>>81607113
If anon can refer to user IMDB ratings as some sort of nonbiased proof that SP is not garbage, I sure as fuck can use user RT ratings too.
>>81607022
I want to think they're all trolling.
>>81607049
The Flash is gonna be dark too. Snyder says that's the reason they can't use TV Flash.
>>81607222
How about you use your thoughts and words to tell him why it's shit instead of acting equally pea-brained.
>>81607252
From all indication if the rumors are true they will probablyHave Zoom go into the future and kill Barry's kids and Barry kills Zoom.
>>81606700
The soundtrack as pretty good. Better than most films.
>>81607252
Pretty sure the execs and the writers said the movie isn't dark. Snyder's JL Flash might be, but his solo isn't necessarily going to be.
>>81607049
Again, it's WWI because they wanted it. WWI MAY need to be dark (not necessarily, War Horse for instance is pretty light), but the movie didn't need to be in WWI in the first place.
>>81604905
It wasn't aimed at children. And shit, why do people coddle children so god damn much. My six year old loved the movie. The batdemon scared him but so what, is he irreparably damaged? And he knew it was a fucking dream. I find it amazing people had trouble figuring that out.
>>81601271
>>81605617
>That smile when she gets knocked down
Glorious
>>81607417
Welcome to the millennial age - where safe spaces are a real thing.
>>81607252
Also because TV Flash is fucking terrible as well.
>>81603319
it should have though
>>81607301
>Hot Topics hits of the 90s!
>>81607495
>Why don't you put the whole world in a safe space, SJW?
>>81607541
If you hate fun, sure.
>>81603319
Wonder Woman was the product of a kinky psychiatrist into gentle femdom.
>>81607623
Nah, I just hate cheesy CW shows, m8.
>every movie thats not a laugh track will have drones bashing it with "LOL Capes are SUPPOSED TO BE SILLY"
>>81607252
Kek. No, that was just a less subtle way of saying DC TV fags can stay in TV. If you make Gustin the DCCU Flash, then they would have to bring in Felicity, Cisco, and all the other trash CW actors and characters.
>>81607729
If that were true why were The Dark Knight Trilogy, X-Men films such as First Class and Days of Future Past, as well as Winter Soldier such well received movies both critically and financially?
>>81607417
...and?
The movie is still dark for all that
>>81607750
>felicity smoak is the key to all this
>>81608286
If you don't want nightmare fuel you really shouldn't be watching a Batman film. I know I know its the first time they are actually making him scary in the movies but hes a scary fucking guy.
>>81607494
>>81605617
This shit was fucking stupid.
You're gonna have a fight scene where you are supposed to be fighting for your life from the viewpoint of a person who has not given a shit about anyone or anything from this world that they have walking around on for hundreds of years, whose only interactions with others was shown to be stealing, lying, or insulting others for their own personal gain, and have now just been smacked to the ground like a bitch.... to smile?
You know what that is? A fucking psychopath whose only revelry lies in fighting, killing, and death. Fuck this bitch and the asshole who wrote her that way.
>>81608404
The smile was a "oh you're going to fuck with ME?" Not an I only like to fight smile.
>>81603826
and a bunch of other people have confirmed that the "all jokes in the trailer" rumor is complete bullshit. Apparently it has tonnes of humor.
>>81607417
You're a fucking idiot. There's a reason that for thousands of years certain rituals/rites of passages/milestones in life have been set in a place for children at different times and stages of their lives from all sorts of cultures,society, and history and all movies, books, television shows, and video games are organized,rated,categorized, and hell, specifically made for certain age groups based on content because CHILDREN LITERALLY CANNOT HANDLE CERTAIN SHIT, YOU FUCKING BRAIN DEAD RETARD. Yeah, children are smart. Yeah, children can handle some things. That doesn't mean you go out and shove into their faces violence, gore, blood, fighting, swearing, sex, and death. Why the fuck do I have to explain this to you? Are you incapable of understanding the basics of child rearing? Monkeys can do it. Fucking monkeys. Are you stupider than a monkey?
>>81608835
>thinking a movie with Harley "Meme Spouter" Quinn, the Joker and Boomerang isn't going to be full of jokes
Ayer said after Comic Con that that trailer wasn't how the tone of the movie really was and that it was surprisingly hilarious.
>>81608580
People who enjoy fighting smile when their fighting.
>>81608867
Then don't take the to see it. Affleck said he wasn't going to let his son see it yet because he's only 4.
>>81608918
b-bbbb-but Faraci said literally every joke was shown in the trailers.
>>81605003
>The director's job is to tell a story.
Wrong. That's the writers job stupid. Which is why he needs better writers. In case you're wondering the Directors job is really to keep
all the gears it takes to make a movie turning in a cohesive DIRECTION.
>>81602669
Its almost like movies are a visual medium.
Also you are the arbiter of good
>>81603990
Snyder's 300 is all about how physical perfection equals moral perfection. Maybe the comic does this too, but the movie is "might makes right" in shiny slow mo.
>>81608925
You said she only likes fighting, which is false.
>>81607288
>using evidence to build authority as a writer is pea-brained
Ah, I think I see what the problem is here.
>>81600764
>die opressor
>fishnet costume with boob plate held up only by boobs
STRONG LIBERATED WOMYN
NOT A SLUT IM LIBERATED NOT SLUTTY DIE CIS SCUM
>>81606343
I am a Batfag and even I know DC and even Batman books can be fun.
Even Batman books don't have to be all morose David Lapham or Brian Azzarello stories.
>>81609411
Don't worry.
Superman puts that slut in her place.
(Gah. Even for a twisted alternate universe, that was a shitty comic. Didn't even buy it. Just looked at that trash on stands and gazed in amazement at how bad it was.)
>movie set in Snyder's Murderverse
>dark
Really. Do tell.
>>81606343
>you're the reason DC is killing off all their solos for more Bat family books
No...that would be because DCYou sold like shit despite focusing on lesser characters and being fucking great quality wise.
With DCYou they tried exactly what people had been screaming at them to do for years, so they did and it sold fucking terribly. With Rebirth they're going back to their tentpole characters and will slowly bring in the lesser knowns.
>>81606719
>Wonder Woman is literally 5000 years old in this continuity. The movie is taking place in WWI
The fuck do they have to do with the movie being shit? She could be from fucking Venus and it wouldn't matter so long as the story itself is good.
>>81601661
Fuck you, I love the idea of setting a superhero story in a period that gets almost zero attention from movies or other media.
>>81600764
Isnt the WW movie also supposed to feature Shazam? HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU MAKE SHAZAM GRIMDARK?!?!? BILLY BATSON IS A FUCKINGH CHILD WITH SUPER POWERS! HOW CAN YOU MAKE THAT NOT FUN!?!?!?!
over/under on necks snaps?
dubs will confirm
>>81603876
You *just* realized this? What took you so long?
>>81614144
No why the fuck would Billy be in the 1930s?
>>81614144
>Isnt the WW movie also supposed to feature Shazam?
wut
>>81614254
how is there only one comment on neck snapping in this post
>>81614399
Because it's a stupid meme.
Will she be wearing cool leather jackets?
