>They are going to kill or more likely depower nu52 Superman all in some transparent attempt to appeal to nostalgiafags by making pre-flashpoint Superman the only Superman
>right after a temporary status-quou change where Supes became somewhat depowered and had his secret identity outed
This is fucking stupid. Are they really that desperate to bring back oldfag readers that they would complete shit on nu52 supes on purpose?
>>81566673
They are that desperate.
Sucks, I like 52 Supes
If they also kill nu52 Lois I'm fully on board.
>>81566673
As an oldfag I'm very pleased. Suck it.
New 52 Superman is a bitch, Pre flashpoint Superman is THE TRUE SUPERMAN
>>81566673
No, they are going to bring in Pre-FP Superman so that Nu52 Superman can be like "hey, Clark Kent and Superman at the same place at the same time? I guess I wasn't him after all!" and then he gets his secret identity back and then they find some way to kill off pre-FP Superman just to twist the knife in our flesh.
>>81571139
Nah, they might do the whole secret identity thing, but pre-nu52 superman is going to be in action comics
Why don't they just ditch the new 52 and go back to the TRUE main DCU? They were crazy enough to do what they did so it wouldn't be that big of a thing to just go back. Why didnt they simply write simplified chronologies of various DC characters and their histories to attract new readers?
>>81566673
If anything it's not enough. They need to kill and rape all the Nu52 characters to get me to care again.
>>81569216
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>>81571490
nostalgia fogies like you are even more cancerous than normies
fuck you all
>>81571139
It's likelier that they'd fuse at this point.
>>81566673
It makes no sense to bring back only Superman. This is just DC backpedaling half-assedly like they always do. Fuck cape comics. I mean, you know what you're in for but holy cow.
>>81571409
Shut the fuck up. How would that be possible?
>>81566673
>Two separate Supermen
What a time to be alive. How will we tell them apart? Maybe one can be red, and the other can be blue...
>>81566673
>they would complete shit on nu52 supes
No anon, they're picking up the n52 turds and putting them in the garbage. If they only clean up the Batfamily, put Barbara in a wheelchair, dip Jason in acid, etc etc, we're in business.
>>81572107
"It was all a dream"
![4546597-5544220975-New_5[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XOxUHzj.jpg "4546597-5544220975-New_5[1].jpg")
>>81566673
Good.
nu52 Supes was a mistake.
How long till based Cereal King brings back real Lobo too?
>>81571616
but normies and movies are what caused the new 52 anon
I was kind of hoping for some merging of the characters back stories or something. I like Superman being an older role model for younger superheros and stuff, but killing the current Clark and replacing him with the older one just seems sloppy doesn't it?
>>81566673
You fucking faggots used to complain about this character all the time but now with the possibility of New 52 Superman getting benched you're suddenly butthurt?
Make up your damn minds.
>>81572664
You wanna Supersnarl Supes like they did with Hawkman?
Why would you wish that on a character? That always ends in disaster.
>>81571616
Pre-Flashpoint and New52 Superman are the same fucking guy in my eyes
I hate to admit it but I really do think Superman fans are fucking whiny
Meanwhile Spider-Man fans bend over and just take whatever Marvel decides to fuck them with
>>81572901
You don't remember Superior then
>>81572971
Plenty of faggots here bought and complained about every single issue
>>81572901
but they are literally two characters in the comic. PC Superman has been in hiding in the new 52
>>81573019
I get that. I mean people act like New52 Superman was some kinda edgelord just because he was written like Golden Age Supes in his first few issues.
>>81566673
Are you angry because you started reading DC with nu52?
Those fucking blue boots...
>>81566673
>there are people who actually think this is a good idea
DC is really desperate.
What I am angry about is the whole rip off of All Star they are doing. At best this change will last a year anyway, also it is going to be confusing as fuck with a new superman. It won't be the same since Clark doesn't have the history with the nu-52 cast.
>>81566673
The best part about this is the meta of Inifinte Crisis notMuh!Superman has come full circle, pre-flashpoint Superman is the notMuh faggot spergging about edge and darkness
new 52 superman blows. Superman shouldnt be Super guy in his early 20s.
>>81572901
>Meanwhile Spider-Man fans bend over and just take whatever Marvel decides to fuck them with
Are you fucking kidding me
Spidey fans are the whiniest fans of all
Not that Superfags aren't almost as bad, but jesus did you miss all of Superior?
>>81574948
Every fucking fan base whines on /co/. Batfags have acted like Snyder raped them even though his run has been solid.
>>81572746
It's because Superman 51 shows that NuSupes could be saved if they actually wanted to do it. Tomasi has a pretty good handle on the character.
>>81566673
This is retarded but also expected.
You can't change the status quo too much. Not in comics with all the fake nostalgia.
>>81569804
As am I. I dont hate nu52 Clark. In fact I keep wanting to like him more put they just seem to be constantly trying to tweak and twist and just keep this version all over the place that I can't ever feel good enough to jump on board with him.
Honestly I think the best thing DC can do now is tell all the writers to chill out. Chill out and just write any kind of neat story they want, don't worry about cross overs or events or making a story that will "change *insert character name* forever!". And back to Superman specifically I think the best thing that could be done is being back Busiek on one book and then let Morrison write those one shots he had talked about.
>>81566673
as someone who only knows pre-nu25 Supes, what's so different about the postnu52 one?
>>81574319
but he isn't?
the tagline for DC Rebirth is "I love this world. But there's something missing..."
>>81575912
Nu52 Supes is quicker to the punch. He isn't as collected, experienced or really as rational as pre-flashpoint Supes. He is younger in every sense.
>>81566673
Maybe Nu 52 Supes will turn out to be Superboy Prime or some crazy plot twist like that.
Theirs ways it could be fun.
My question is, how will the justice League react, I doubt that they wouldn't care that two supermen are running around earth. Why is batman letting his son hang out with an unknown superman's son?
>>81576090
First issue of Lois&Clark by Jurgens, has him waxing the notMuh violin about edge and darkness
>>81576245
I presume he will know of this Super family and assign Damian to look after Jon, since he doesn't trust him and best case scenario, he gets to influence the next Superman into not being such an untrained douche.
He will watch daddy Supes.
Daddy Supes will win him over though. He is more experienced and smarter.
>>81576358
Hmm do you think there will be two supermen in the justice League or will one be flying solo. I am super interested to see what dc does to not make this a total cluster fuck
>>81576494
One at a time...
The whole idea is to facilitate the idea that Clark and Supes are two people.
If the two are working on something I'd imagine one has to stay unseen, whoever got there second I guess.
>>81571616
When has New 52 Supes ever had stories on the level of Post-Crisis Supes?
>>81572498
Normies and movies also don't read comics.
>>81566673
I hope the two Superman just end up fusing at some point. Keep the best of both continuities in a new, better Superman.
>>81577240
Best case scenario DC just ignores Nu-52 Lois and as she fades as a memory Clark and Lois of preflashpoint pretty much are retconned into always being apart of the universe as survivors from the previous one. It will be one of those never mentioned again things like Tony Stark being a teen clone.
>>81571139
This is what is likely happening. However, given that a chaos shard was used to bring Damian back and handwaving was used to bring Barry Allen back, I wouldn't hold your breath (those of you praying for it) for Nu52 Clark to be dead long (assuming he does kick), etc. etc.
>>81577047
>on the level of Post-Crisis Supes
What does that even means?, Post-Crisis Supes had a bunch of stories of varying degrees of quality, many of which were fucking awful.
>>81566673
Just give him back the trunks and all will be truly well again
>>81579893
I assume he means definitive stories. Memorable stories. Stories that are a prime example of New 52 Clark's character.
New stories on the same level as Byrne's Man of Steel; What's So Funny About Truth, Justice and the American Way, For Tomorrow or Superman Beyond.
>>81580136
Pak's Run and Morrison's Run are pretty good.
>>81572342
And that isn't why we're leaving the New 52, dumbfucks.
>>81566673
They could completely flush Nu52 except for Damian and no fucks by me would be given.
I will be mostly fine with this because they really fucked up New 52 Superman. I had hopes. I even bought into their "we have to split him and Lois up so he can truly feel ALONE" (only to just give him WW a year later). But they were unfulfilled. It was a shitty status quo. Burn it to the ground.
>>81581627
Nice characterfaggotry there.
>>81566673
I hope not, New 52 Supes dying would be sad and I grew to like that Superman.
But if he dies I wonder how Pre-FP Superman is going to be received by the other characters in the comic, I guess I can see most of them accepting him because he's still Clark although probably not Bruce, Clark would have to win his friendship again from zero, also he would be all "Not muh Superman" about it.
>>81566673
>making pre-flashpoint Superman the only Superman
It's only going to be temporary. They aren't going to undermine the newer, hipper Supes. Most likely this is just going to serve as a coverup for Clark's civilian identity.
>>81577047
>>81580136
Superman is Superman. The continuity doesn't matter. All those stories are about the same guy. I can't believe some of you fucks are actually going to have a console war about which Superman is better. Idiots.
>>81574948
Spider-Man has been shit to mediocre for a decade with the worst writer in the series history becoming the most prolific in series history. Supes got off relatively easy. Hell at least DC is smart enough to fix its shit after a few years.
>>81582008
>It's a Bruce pretends he actually liked Clark while masturbating to his plans to kill Clark if he ever even hints at not being perfect issue
>>81581905
Seems to be the plan but I'm pretty sure Superbro will return and Superdad will be Pa Kent for him.
>>81566673
All I want is for them to kill of the white superman and make the black superman the new main canon superman. Or maybe they can push the envelope and make a lesbian native american looking superwoman. That will REALLY make me happy.
>>81566673
Calling it now. Clark Kent and Superman in the same place at the same time. Identity is reestablished. New52 Supes gets back to work. PreSupes reties and acts as a mentor.
How will pre-Flashpoint Superman feel about all his friends being dead?
Batman's history stayed pretty much intact right? Does this mean that after Flashpoint, Batman was replaced by another Batman who had pretty much the same history only with minor tweaks? So basically, the pre-Flashpoint Superman will remember all the major events of Bruce's life, but Bruce won't remember ever having met this new Superman? Seems kind of weird. Same with Green Lantern I suppose?
>>81582167
Need reasons to shitpost about?
>>81582308
Wasn't shown in comic. Only thing were "OMG, their Jimmy is so young and handsome!" and "I'll never get used to Cyborg not being Teen Titan".
>>81572275
We don't talk abot the dark times here.
>>81582408
How did pre-flashpoint Superman get there? Anyone wanna storytime?
>>81582662
Read Convergence. Him, Lois, baby, Flash, Supergirl and Parallax Hal went to defeat Anti-Monitor during Crisis of Infinite Earths and they won. No idea where did Flash and Supergirl go, but others went to proper DC timeline.
I think both Supermen will love to have each other around. The idea of having two clark kents in a world working in shifts not only increases the amount of people saved around the world but the chance for Clark Kent to actually live a life outside of being superman.
>>81582167
>a lesbian native american looking superwoman
Sure, I'd be down for that if she was interesting. Nobody's using the Superwoman title and there're no native American supers except... what, fuckin' Super-Chief? (Worst thing to come out of 52.)
>>81566673
He's already dying. I dunno how this is gonna work out, but I didn't mind Nu52 Supes at all.
>>81577047
Here's the issue. You're comparing almost THIRTY YEARS of Superman stories to five.
>>81574197
>Rip off of All Star
>When All Star is just a "rip off" of the Silver Age
>>81571616
Honest question: how many comics have you actually purchased? Not just read... scamming free comics off zippyshare doesn't count. How many comics have you gone out and purchased, because, as an oldfag, I've bought a lot. The one thing that seems the same across the board for millenial readers, Tumblr protesters, MRAs, etc. is that they love to complain, but none of them actually support the medium.
>>81583602
There's a huge difference between homage and rip off, but a hack like you would never understand.
>>81584763
And i see you're the ultimate authority on what is a ripoff and a homage. They're more similar than you'll ever know
>>81584714
Not him, but this is kind of backwards logic, as his point is that the "oldfags" are complaining about "not muh supes".
Personally, I look forward to how the two Supermen interact and change each other
>>81566673
This looks like the cover to a gay porn fancomic
>>81582748
Paralax Hal wound up in N52 also. He went back to being evil again because reasons
My dearest hope out of this is that ultimately the survivors of Post-Crisis get together and revive their old universe, and get a "happily ever after" ending with that whole setting.
My biggest problem with universe resets is that, instead of just having the old one go on adventuring forever in our minds, they explicitly destroy it, meaning that every story told in that era was ultimately pointless because the whole universe was destroyed.
>>81584895
I know, I said "others" without Supergirl and Flash.
It reminds me of when Kingdom Come Superman ended on New-Earth, they were two Supermen for a while.
KC Supes in the JSA, and New-Earth Supes in the JLA
>>81566673
Why is Hal there?
>>81582111
Because continuity doesn't matter is the reason why they aren't the same Superman. There is no reason to reconcile the histories.
Like when Golden age Supes met with Post-Crisis Supes in Johns' Crisis. You can't tell me they are the same guy.
Nu52 Supes has been from the start set aside in his characterization and history.
The distinction is valid since it doesn't negate the precious company line: "story trumps continuity", except that hasn't meant you get better stories but whatever.
>>81571409
I know right? They should go back to the true main DCU, the one before that shitty Crisis on Infinite Earths.
>>81587653
>shitty Crisis on Infinite Earths
Go home, Grant Morrison.
>>81566673
You're all ship-posting faggots
>>81587892
We postin' ships?
>>81588171
yes
>>81566673
>Superman with blue boots
