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>Isn't John the oldest, shouldn't he be enlightened like us intelligent liberals
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Do you think he'll come out as a tranny? Because in a realistic situation no way Joyce would be ready for that
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>>81499297
stop posting this crap. It's so goddamn preachy and warped and full of bullshit drama bombs that never go anywhere
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>>81499297
>Why would John take issue with this person he has barely interacted with asking to use a family members secure info, and then opt to remove himself from the situation when I fly off the handle at him for it?
>He has stuff that I dont so that means hes wrong
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>>81499297

The goddamn toy collector is preaching about materialism.
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Eh. Just boring bull today. Nothing much to pick apart.

Well, aside from how fucking ridiculous Becky looks.
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>>81499625
It's the calm before the tranny storm
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>>81499625
I guess if I had to say something positive about this strip, at the absolute very least Willy doesnt draw Becky with a flounder side mouth in that panel.
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I get what he's trying to do, he's trying to depict John as too detached from the 'real world' being the church's company man or whatever it is Willis is trying to paint him as but it seems unlikely a guy who does missionary work sees someone, his own sister, be that visibly upset and just tell them to get over themselves and stop being the wrong kind of person
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>>81499670

Which is ruined by literally everything else about her face.

Look at that rat-face. Look at that massive billboard forehead. Look at those beady little simpleton eyes.
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So now I get that not every writer is rich but there are plenty of writers who are pretty damn loaded or at least live comfortable lives.

Is this another time where Willis thinks he and his comic writing pals are the norm? Because writers like Tom Clancy, JK Rowling, and Nicholas Sparks have plenty of things and money. Being a writer hardly equates to being poor.

>>81499567

The toy collector that freaked out when people thought he might have a problem.
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>>81499695

Except that John has a job, and in that job actually involves him going overseas and interacting with people. So by that logic, John is more in tune with the "real world" than Willis's dopey college characters.

What does Willis even define as the "real world" anyway? The world with caped superheroes getting in violent car chases with mustachioed gunmen?
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Hold on, Willis makes five grand a month off of his patreon alone, his fucking latest book kickstarter was in the hundred thousands, and god knows how much he makes off of ad revenue for his goddamn site.

Am I really supposed to believe he hasn't been getting "Stuff" as well like he's depicting John or is his head that far up his own ass?
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>>81499695

Actually it's totally believable because he's probably seen a lot worse.

The problem is that's not what Willis is going for.
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>>81499900

>Because writers like Tom Clancy, JK Rowling, and Nicholas Sparks have plenty of things and money.

About that first one, anon...
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>>81499932
Rhetorical question

Strip just two back, John's about to make a point about consequences and then BOOM, NAH, HE DOESN'T GET TO HAVE A POINT HE'S A SELFISH MATERIALIST BIGOT STOP LOOKING AT MY TRANSFORMERS REEEEEEEEE
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>>81499932

Willis once asked fans on tumblr to buy him a MOTUC Swiftwind for his Batman.

They did it.

Now that you pointed it out I'm pretty angry about the hypocrisy of it all.
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>>81499909
no see, you say real world as in the rest of the world where people struggle to even get clean water
when imply Willis' 'real world' i mean where being misgendered is as bad as being raped
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>>81500005

I just pulled it out of my ass because he's a big name. Shit what happened?
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>>81499932
>>81500032

Oh hey, and get this.

He freaked the FUCK out when people posted links to some of his pay-to-see comics on the Walkypedia. Huffed up, squealed at the wiki staff and whined about them not doing more than they could.

This man-bitch is insufferable.
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>>81500032
Hasn't his wife been keeping a lid on the money and he can't buy Transformers or toys anymore because of it? I mean I understand that, he's an impulsive buyer and if you don't have someone keeping you down to earth you can waste a thousand dollars easily on booth shit.
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>>81499900
>Being a writer hardly equates to being poor.
No no no, anon... Willis isn't *scoff* JUST a writer... he's an ARTIST! And artists struggle, anon. You think someone of Willis' talent and demands is capable of living comfortably on a meager $5,000 a month? Of course not, the very notion is ridiculous!
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>>81499424
if she does it'll be a major, gigantic arc that will take up years of real-world time to resolve and everything will be filled with massive amounts of drama and chaos in the Brown family
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>>81500279

>she

Yeah, and I'm a velociraptor.
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>>81500258

>And artists struggle, anon.

Must be why he abandoned Shortpacked for something he said he can shit out on a dime.
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>>81500093

I was just saying "real world" as in where you interact with the average normie on the streets, the prole, the average joe, etc.

>>81500113

he's been dead for like, years

>>81500241

I got a DMCA and a bunch of angry anons for posting them on tumblr. I wouldn't be surprised if patreonanon was the reason willis threads would get periodically 404'd. Wonder if the poor bastard's banned.

>>81500279

He's building up for a Brown Family Civil War, so yeah, he'll probably do just that.

>>81500258

In his defense, I'm also a writer and I'm also shit-broke. Granted writing smut on Anonkun is hardly something I would expect to make money for anyway.
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>>81500113
He died like 5 years ago, dude.
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>>81500279


how much time has passed since the comic started? In universe I mean

I heard that he has been writing this shit for yeaaars and yet they are still in the first 3 months of college
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>>81499695
I give you 5/1 odds that John's Indian "wife" is actually like 13 and that he's one of those pedo missionaries.
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I'm new to this webcomic-------is the writer trying to frame John's sister in a sympathetic light?

Because she's having a mental breakdown---and that's fine, happens to the best of us. But there's a difference between portraying a mentally unstable person who's growing through some shit of their own, and portraying a mentally unstable person who is also framed as the morally corrected and "right" view by the author.

There's liberal------and then there's whatever the hell this is.
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>>81500563
>First 3 months.
Try month and a half.
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>>81500584
Nah, his "wife" is probably a guy and that's why Joyce has never met "her".
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>>81500563
The comic began in 2010.
Somebody did the math, and we're around one month deep into the storyline.

So it took six years to get to this point. At this rate, Willis' kids will be going to college come winter break in DoA.
Willis also said that he has no plans to reach the end of freshman year. So make of that what you will.
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>>81500584

Did they say his wife was Indian?

I figured she was a white girl.
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I'm just gonna filter this shit. Have fun wasting your lives on something you don't even enjoy.
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>>81499297
what is the context of this?
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>>81500783
that's pretty much the reason i come to this site anymore
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Heh. On the Walkypedia they're trying to erase the history on the page where all the links were posted so it won't be as easy to revise it.
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>>81500783

Kek, very accurate. Tbqh this is encouraging more than anything.
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>>81500830

I prefer threads for things I don't enjoy. People actually discuss stuff there.

All the stuff I like no one ever actually discusses they just hype up a single moment.
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>>81500783

I enjoy talking about it, though. It can spark some pretty cool discussions on /co/ and people can learn things.
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>>81500783
Personally I come here to talk with like minded individuals about our mutual disdain for Willis, as well as enjoy moments where the people Willis works so hard to tow the line for cannibalize him or eachother
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>>81500258
That's why he needed the $70K Kickstarter to make ends meet! I mean it's not like he can just keep the excess after he produces his next trade collection.

...oh wait, he can.
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>>81501142

On one hand he should be logically allowed to make a profit from his kickstarter campaigns.

On the other hand it'd be easy for him to get these books published by a company, keep the rights, and get his stuff in bookstores and the kickstarter exists solely to maximize short-term profits so he can buy more toys.
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Who wants to be the brave mothafucka who posts commenting on Willis' hypocrisy and sees if they can make it get in.
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>>81500252
He's also done a few posts that were basically "Check this out! I buy a toy, review it on my blog, and it becomes a 'business expense'! Cha-Ching!"
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>>81501330
Don't bother man. Just don't fucking bother.
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What's the one thing you'll LIKE about Willis?
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>>81501465
Send him so many comments that he ass barfs and crashes into slumber from the stress of it
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>>81501516
He has a fucking three to four month buffer of comics in case he needs to sit out a while or does a con or him or somebody in the family gets sick.

I can dislike his comic, but anybody that is prepared that far ahead at least deserves praise for that.
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Why don't we ever make fun of other webcomic authors that really deserve it? You know, like Aaron Diaz?

>recently revealed main character to be "confirmed for queer"
>immediately wants to capitalize on it with posters and shirts
>champion for the cause
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>>81501568
Considering that a while back there was a string of comics where there were outright blank white panels, this is preparation in the cheap, lowest Chinese contractor bid sense of the word.
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>>81501614
Because people who read it die of old age between updates so there's no consistent discussion
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>>81501614
Are you shitting me? We bash Diaz all the time.
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>>81501614
>He thinks we don't shit on Diaz
We do every time he updates :^)
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>>81501516
He has ok art,
Some characters are good.
I don't want him to die.

Mainly because he has kids, but still
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>>81501516

He's efficient and I do generally like when he just does gag-a-day stuff too. Not love, but it's okay stuff. Inoffensive Sunday funnies-level.
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>>81499516

Joyce lost her temper because he keeps on suggesting that she and Becky are to blame for the bad things that Ross did. The straw that breaks the camel's back is when she gets angry at him for being a jerk about it and instead of realizing that he did something wrong, he tries to control her tone.

You can complain that the writer is bad, but you've got to be pretty goddamn stupid to say that John is in the right when the real complaint is that his character is a cardboard cut-out designed to always put the main characters in the right.
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>>81502209
>maybe you and your mentally unbalanced friend should start acting like adults and thinking before you act. I get that her father was acting violently, but you could have just let the police handle things instead of encouraging a vigilante to stage an insane high speed motorcycle chase that nearly ended in a major freeway accident and goodness knows how many bystander casualties
>OH MY GOD JOHN! STOP VICTIM BLAMING US!
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>>81502209
If you want to be technical, Joyce shouldn't have been keeping Becky in her dorm anyway, though that doesn't mean what happened with Toedad wasn't fucked up.

Becky's the problem though, the big problem.
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>>81502373
It would have been great if he had actually said that. But he didn't. He essentially went "Well, if you're too buttflustered to see how he was in the right, I'm going to leave. Talk to me when you've cooled down and found Jesus again."

Because Willis needs people to be arbitrary antagonists. Nuance is for faggots.
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>>81502508

The thing about Toedad is it really all could have been avoided if they just called the cops and said "My friends dad just took her at gunpoint!"

Or if they just kept Becky in Walky's room for the entire day instead of having her wander around town.

Or have asked your lesbian teacher who got kicked out of the house for advice. I don't think Leslie has told them on panel about all that but I feel like it's the easiest fucking solution for this Becky shit and yet here we are dragging the drama out for no reason.
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>>81502586

>Nuance is for faggots.

Doubtful, all of his readers seem to like his dullard approach and they're all flaming.
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>>81499297
I don't believe there's a single in this country who thinks oldest = smartest by necessity who does not have a severe learning disability.

These are not believable people, Willis.
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>>81501516
I really liked Shortpacked and early Dumbing of Age in high school. I think his heart is at least in the right place. I still enjoy some of his older comics. A lot of his girls are pretty cute/hot, even if he's absolute shit at making porn.
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>>81502656

>Or have asked your lesbian teacher who got kicked out of the house for advice.

Didn't they try this in like a really roundabout "asking for a hypothetical friend" kind of way or am I misremembering that?
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>>81502656
No, anon. The cops could do nothing. Amazi-girl had to save her.
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>>81502844
Wait, is this the same shit from 3 years ago?


Are you telling me that he's been writing the same fucking plot about christianity and college gays for three fucking years and nothing has changed?
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>>81502844
Hearts being in the right place have never been sufficient, though. All the nobility and selflessness of charity, for example, hardly means much when you get down to the tighter details, namely that any charity or group of charities is significantly outperformed by even a moderate safety net structure in pretty much ever conceivable metric (not counting morality, because obviously some people find governmental security nets deplorable and so on but that's a different topic).

Right thinking has to be combined with right action, otherwise it's incredibly dangerous. You've got to execute on your goals as completely and thoroughly as possible, even if your goal is to make a goofy, centrist-leaning social justice webcomic, otherwise you're just going to confuse people -- yourself included.
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>>81503361
What? Of course something has changed.

He's ruining the only good character he has left by turning her into himself, that's what's fucking changed.
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>>81503361
The whole thing has taken place over maybe two months time in-story. Also, it's always going to be Freshman Year., pending anything really crazy happening in internet culture.
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>>81503626
One would think, to someone like Willis, the whole Trump thing would have him working quintuple-time to spew vitriol and stump as if he's some sort of noble anti-fascist.
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>>81503756
It's not enough to be a good person

People have to KNOW you're a good person
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>>81500783
I, like many others here, come to support the true hero of DoA, Mary.
Deus Vult.
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>>81503882
But Mary isn't Catholic. She hates Catholics, in fact.
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>>81503756
Dude just wants to make Earth Great Again.
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>>81503328
Nope, totally did.

And still completely ignoring the practical help that could provide because SHENANIGANS
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>>81499297
The Christian missionary kicked his brother out of his car for making a comment?
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>>81502844
See, now, if they were all still like this, I don't think we'd have anything to complain about.

Makes you wonder what the fuck happened.
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>>81504865
Of course... because despite dedicating his life to serving in an impoverished country, building shelters, cleaning poo off the streets, and spreading the word of God... John is uncomfortable around rude, flaming homosexuals who ask to borrow people's social security cards and is therefore Satan incarnate. Of course he kicked his own brother unsympathetically to the curb and it's not just Joshua being a fucking drama queen. How dare you even make such an insinuation!
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>>81504952
S O C I A L
J U S T I C E
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>>81504998
Reminder kids. Nothing wrong with supporting actual social justice. Being a loud, obnoxious asshole about it solely to get brownie points from other loud, obnoxious assholes is what you should avoid.
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>>81500584
and she's secretly lesbian so Becky and the gang will have to save her from the patriarchal oppression holding her prisoner
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>>81500783
you do realize what this picture represents is YOU and these threads, right?
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>>81500712
What we know is he married a woman named Christi while on a mission in India. What's probably happening is the family presumes he married another missionary, but he actually married the daughter of some converts.
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I'm betting learning Joshua's a tranny will break Joyce, and hard.
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>>81505065
>supporting actual social justice
>actual
Here we go.
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>>81505065
>Nothing wrong with supporting actual social justice.
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>>81500783

I enjoy shitting on Willis.
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>>81503361

3 years? Make it 19.

http://www.itswalky.com/comic/and-now/
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>>81502373
I don't see how that has anything to do with Becky having access to her SSN. The Toedad incident happened because Toedad kidnapped his daughter at gunpoint because she's gay, and that's why she's in a position where she has no financial support and needs to know her SSN to get a job.

Willis intentionally made the scene on the freeway physically impossible and highly illogical, but don't mistake poor art/writing for a semblance of a good argument on John's end.
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i want to make a comic mocking willis and his hamfisted writing, but i never know the best way to go about it since theres so many things wrong with it. plz advise
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>John is successful and makes a lot of money
>but clearly he's the idiot here
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>>81510189
Being successful and making a lot of money != being smart.
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>>81511272
I'd trust someone who has actually made something of themselves in the real world on a subject related to the real world over a first year college student any day of the fucking week.
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>>81505065
What do you think the most basic form of social justice is?

The lynch mob.
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>>81510189
That's the thing, he doesn't make a lot of money. That Mustang he got from his church was paid for by tithes.
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>I'm a writer

What does this nigger write that he's so poor? In the modern era with fucking twitter and epublishing and reddit and all sorts of places to shill your shit the only way you can't make money is if your shit interests no one.
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>>81512818
I am looking to get into writing. Can you direct me towards an easy 'how to' shill and publish for quick e profit?
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>>81503756
Doesn't he have a six month buffer or something? I'd imagine that the lack of Trump largely comes down to that.
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>>81513703

I think it's only a 3-4 months buffer.
Which coincides with us elections.

>you're now imagining all the bullshit about Trump that will be spit out in DoA when Donald will be the next president
it's going to be glorious lads
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>>81512973
The internet is a vast world of information my padawan, there has never been an easier time to namedrop your book on every single forum and website in the world, making sockpuppets to pretend like people care about it. We live in a vastly different world from the one which existed even just 10 years ago when most people would have learned about books by word of mouth or the newspaper.

We even see that kind of thing on /co/ sometimes and definitely on /v/ and /pol/ (in regards to political candidates)

You just have to make sure you're not obvious about it.
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>>81514353
Thank you, my master. I would ask what you've done but you'd be outed as a shill. Can I get a genre at least?
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>>81499467

Thanks for the insight! Make sure to report the thread you didn't have to come into as well, anon, I make sure to do that with every "Zack Snyder BLOWN THE FUCK OUT" thread I come across instead of just ignoring them.
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>>81500783

Thanks for letting us know, you absolute cunt.
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>>81499297
>Willis finds space to whine about creators being under paid despite making serious bank from his shit webcomic.

Well played
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>>81511332

I wouldn't. I've known too many financially-stable idiots.
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Ugh, Willis is writing his traps wrong again. Gotta fix that.

There we go.
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>>81514397
Soros is already funding a "Democracy Spring" while some BLM fuckheads are screaming about killing whites if Trump wins

I wonder how they're going to pick out the ones who voted for Trump so they don't kill the wrong people.
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>>81510189
Smart guys can still be assholes
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>>81515479
>gets a sex change
>still into girls
WHAT WAS EVEN THE POINT?!
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>>81501568

Yeah, that is pretty clever all things considered.
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>>81520373
I dunno that I would call it clever. He didn't invent the idea of a buffer. He just does a good job maintaining his. The fact that most other webcartoonists can't maintain a regular schedule and buffer even with it as their primary job is probably giving you a skewed view.
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>>81521651
Whatever his failings as a writer/artist you can't fault his work ethic
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>>81522591
an idiot can work as harder than anyone but it doesn't matter if the final product is still subpar
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>>81514406
I'm not that guy, but you can probably break into the young adult fiction genre. I suggest a post-apocalyptic teenage romance with obscure philosophical themes and obscure Wikipedia articles.
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>>81523576

Aye, and a teenage protagonist fighting with stalwart rebels for freedom against tyrannical adults.

That'll sell right quick.
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>>81499297
Is there a worse web comic than this one?

I mean, shit, at least things happened in Dominic Deegan.
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>>81524140
I'm sure there's worse. There's no bottom limit for being bad, but they're probably not popular enough to know about them.

QC, though, is just as much nonsense, but with worse art.
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>>81524140
Moon over June
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>>81524376

literally just what I was thinking
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>>81499297

MAKE MORE EDITS
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>>81499424
Nah, he'll just be a standard gay.

>>81499567
Internet commies are giant hypocrites, yeah.
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>>81524546

New Mspaintretard Strip
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>>81502209
>Joyce lost her temper because he keeps on suggesting that she and Becky are to blame for the bad things that Ross did.
Becky is to blame. If she just went with him and contacted the police then none of that would've happened.
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>>81501614
Diaz doesn't update every day, because that would cut into his daily schedule of being smug on Twitter
>>81524409
First thing I thought of was Billy the Heretic, closely followed by Hathor the Cow Goddess
>>81524546
>mfw new dialogue makes John more reasonable, but gives credence to the other points of view as well
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>Why won't you give me your social insurance number? Are you some kind of homophobe?!
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>>81524140

I dunno, DD STARTS with absolutely insulting nonsense and piles it on...

>girl is suicidal because her weird tusks make her look weird
>won't go to the COMPLETELY COMMONPLACE magical plastic surgeon "alterist" because they're creepy
>equivalent of a woman wanting to kill herself for having crooked teeth but refusing to see an orthodontist because braces are weird
>this woman, instead of being portrayed as crazy, is the hero's girlfriend

and then

>orc girl's parents murdered by evil orc chief
>orc boy tries to save her by marrying her
>orc chief makes boy consummate marriage immediately while orc girl is still freaking out about parents' deaths
>orc boy, despite being completely against entire thing, somehow manages to get a boner and fuck orc girl
>orc boy is portrayed as well intentioned tragic hero
>orc girl is portrayed as bitter loner

and that's not even getting into the magical rock concert or one character literally turning into a comic book superhero

Jacob was pretty cool, though
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>>81524993


Hi Uncle /Pol!
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>>81526548
The most generous interpretation is that Becky was kidding, but John didn't pick up on that and overreacted. That still leaves us with the quandry of John still being technically right (previous threads have mentioned going to the social service office, or just asking the police to let her in so she can find the correct paperwork) but Joyce is having to deal with a lot of shit without the benefit of therapy (Willis has never seen a therapist, so why should his stand-in?), so her public meltdown is understandable, if not entirely excusable.
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>>81527942
>Becky was kidding, but John didn't pick up on that

Well to be fair

John's experience of becky's humour is pointing and shouting OH HEY, HITLER YOUTH! in the middle of a crowded diner
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>>81499297
What kind of art style is this. it's like himiko era anime mixed with tumblr
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>>81522591
I agree, he definitely works hard to make sure there's always strips on the site on time. Especially since he does a dramatic strip with punchlines, it's important that he plot out the storylines and figure them out in advance.

I just think we're really used to seeing guest comics or splash pages when someone is sick, at a convention or takes a holiday break on other comics, and that really shouldn't be the norm if it's your job*. It's crazy that DoA is one of the few story-based strips that doesn't have random guest weeks in the middle of events throwing stuff off. But I think of that more as him doing his job at a competent level while others do poorly.

*I'm not saying cartoonists shouldn't take holidays, but I do think you can work a standard work week (or a bit less) at home minus holidays and interruptions and still have strips up for when you take those breaks. As long as it's not a commentary on current events.
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