>Justice League starts filming in 6 days
>BvS' first week momentum is gone
>horrible word of mouth
>it's not going to clear a billion at this point
Why the fuck aren't they fired yet?
>>81478763
They're too far into JL, I guess. Snyder definitely won't direct the next one though.
No way too stop.
Films take forever to get made because of the risk of this shit. Once something is this far along, canceling might as well just be burning all the investment.
>>81478763
>Justice League starts filming in 6 days
It is?
>>81478811
Nah, you could fire them before filming starts unless they were contractually committed to direct/produce it
I didn't hate BvS. There is quite a bit that I liked but it was ultimately a disappointment.
My only hope is that this movie will have more of a focus, instead of feeling like several different things.
>>81479016
It is not not filming at least
Why the fuck is Cyborg in the JL movie? Who the hell cares about Cyborg?
Hopefully Ben Affleck can ghost direct if he beats Snyder in enough push up competitions.
>>81479061
Targeting minorities
>>81479061
Kids who watched the TT cartoons. Easy money.
Of course that movie will probably be too fucking dark for kids too.
>>81479061
It's 2016 you gotta have a nigger on the team
>>81479061
>who the hell cares about Ant-man
>who the hell cares about the Guardians
I told my normie friend the director was on the verge of getting fired and he said "Good. That movie sucked."
>>81479097
Kid who watched the TT cartoon are like 20 something now?
JL needed a black token nigga and Cyborg was popular enough to fit the bill because of the cartoon, so wallah
Im more weird3d about because hes getting a movie but thatll go away if it turns into a titans movie
>>81479027
Yeah they just have to do The Death and Return of Superman, introduce three more murderers and Darkseid, set up more Injustice shit, They can totally focus.
>>81479116
Then why didn't they go with Martian Manhunter?
>>81479025
The studio can -and should- buy out the contract and replace him with literally anyone else.
M. Night Shyamalan would be a better choice.
>>81479129
Not being being stripped of identity to fill a minority quota on a team they don't belong on.
WB really screwed the pooch when they fast-tracked JLA into production, without waiting for some results from BvS.
I mean Marvel can sorta get away with it, because the solo outings have different creative teams and tones.
But this is like they had Thor 3 slated to start production as soon as Thor 2 came out, with the same exact team.
>>81479229
Is Miller still not intrested or what?
>>81479210
What are you? A virgin?
>>81479185
>Teen Titans was 13 years ago
Where did it all go?
>>81479210
Niggers aren't green
>>81479129
>who the hell cares about Ant-man
literally no one's.
When you start to lose money, you have to start doubling down because the law of averages states that you are closer to winning at that point.
It's basic gambling, Spongebob!
>>81479095
They could have just made Billy Batson black.
I'd be fine with it if he actually kept his optimistic personality.
>>81479229
>M. Night Shyamalan would be a better choice.
Let's not say things that we can't take back.
>>81479061
new52
They might be shafted, but WB wont publicly state it while the movie is still in theaters
>>81479016
April 11th is the start date for filming for Justice League part 1. However I think Snyder has entrenched himself so much into the project that removing him would be an absolute clusterfuck.
While he's not going to get the boot I'm sure that with this one there will be a lot of studio interference. Pretty much if they feel that whatever he is filming or working on it too similar to Batman v. Superman. I'm sure they'll stop it and tell him to make it more "fun"
>>81479196
>The Death and Return of Superman
That already happened in BvS.
>introduce three more murderers
Hurp durp. It's okay when Marvel does it.
Wouldn't be surprised if Snyder has to pull out because of health reasons, he looks half-dead as it is.
MMMM Eat the pennies Zack
>>81479229
>M. Night Shyamalan would be a better choice.
Are you posting from the past? Because things start to go south in 2001.
>>81479616
Go watch "the Visit". He suddenly decided to stop being a shitty director.
>>81479734
>I dont know how mental disorders work, the movie
>Plot only works because mom is an incompetent dumbass
>>81479469
>Snyder mysteriously found dead in his home next Monday with a bat brand on his chest
>>81479061
Because they want to be like New52 JL lineup except DC fails to realize continually that no one gives a shit about the New 52 JL
>>81479904
What is this from?
>>81480057
A person.
>>81478763
I don't know, but it fucking scares me
>>81478763
Well, they're never going to fire them because they're essentially the producers for entire universe. At best we'll get a co-direct or Snyder steps down for some cash and Ben steps in.
This week is like the last week they could do anything before it gets messy.
>>81480106
No, REALLY?! Thanks captain
>>81480184
Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.
And it's Colonel, to you, chickenshit.
>>81478763
Because BvS is still in theaters.
If they removed Snyder at this time then it sends a message they don't have faith in their film.
WAIT HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE
JUSTICE LEAGUE PART 1 COMES OUT NEXT YEAR?
ARE YOU FUCKING ME RIGHT NOW?
>>81480319
Referring to source faggot. But whatever, dont even care anymore
>>81478763
>Doug Liman will never direct Justice League
Fuck me.
>>81479061
Him being in JL is fine, what I wonder is why the fuck are they making a Cyborg movie.
Who the hell is going to watch that.
>>81480319
>And it's Colonel, to you, chickenshit
>>81479071
Snyder's a manlet. Huge advantage in push-ups. Affleck has no chance.
>>81479061
>Geoff Johns while having no actual power on the film productions, has some degree of pull within the DC WB machine
>New 52 happens
>Hal is his husbando
>he damn well knows theres going to be a real movie soon and that WB will more than likely replace Hal with John Stewart given JLU's popularity, the failure of the GL movie and the need for a token minority
>he choses to fuck over Martian Manhunter's spot for Cyborg to save his husbando
>because its a first issue in a new universe, that story sells incredibly well, strongly influencing WB's choices for a JL movie roster, notice how Darkseid is the villain for JL
>still scared of GL, but hey, we'll put in Cyborg anyway cause we need that minority
>now Hal still has a pretty good shot as being the GL in the JL
It's pretty obvious, anon
>>81479071
This is literally what everyone said about BvS
That Ben is really ghost directing and Terrio has saved everything.
We somehow got a movie worse than fucking MoS.
>>81478763
So, will WB and Snyder stop with all the MUH MYTHOLOGY and MUH PHILOSOPHY talk in interviews and just say it'll be a fun afternoon at the movies like they're saying about BvS now?
>>81480472
Does WB have any decent directors who are free of any urgent work right now?
>>81480656
But it wasn't a fun afternoon at the movies. It was a few good scenes plus two hours of a boring shitfest.
>>81480472
>edge of tomorrow
my eternal nigga, thats probably the last WB blockbuster movie I can think of that was actually good
>>81479196
>herp derp, a movie can only do one thing at a time
Is this what MCU's pleb capeshit has taught you people?
>>81480608
>>81480608
That makes way too much sense.
>>81480656
Well like day after BvS came out Snyder himself said its going to be more "lighthearted" because of the Flash and that you don't have to actually see BvS to see JL and they're all kinda self contained.
The backtracking is real.
>>81480685
Not according to WB
>“There’s a real disconnect with what some critics wrote and how the fans are enjoying the film,” said Jeff Goldstein, Warner Bros. distribution executive vice president. “It doesn’t take itself seriously. It’s just an enjoyable afternoon at the movies.”
http://variety.com/2016/film/box-office/batman-v-superman-reviews-critics-box-office-1201740022/
>>81480685
>But it wasn't a fun afternoon at the movies
I think what he means is that before the movie came out they were talking about how philosphical and deep it was going to be and then after the first weekend some guy came out with how "It's just a fun time at the movies, it's not supposed to be taken seriously"
>>81478763
>>it's not going to clear a billion at this point
How could Snyder fuck up a trinity movie this much? They could have had even a decent director and they would have squeezed out a billion and a half. Does WB not realize that Snyder cost them hundreds of millions of dollars?
stop spreading misinfo
also, there was a discussion in the hypercrisis thread about the member choices in the dceu
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2016/03/11/inside-chris-terrios-vision-for-batman-superman-and-justice-league/
>>81479229
Son you better fear the monkeys paw
Its petty dangerous with /co/ wishes
>>81480747
>Wonder Woman getting reshoots to be more of a "solo" film with less connections to BvS
>SS "allegedy" getting reshot to be more "fun"
>Aquaman promising to be more "fun"
>Justice League recently announced to be "lighter and more fun"
>Snyder has to come out and say "Flash will be different in tone from MoS/BvS
>Two Lego Batman movie trailers in the same week as if WB wants to remind us "Don't worry, we know Batman is still wacky!" (even if I am looking forward to it)
>Dumbass producer fucktard backpedals and comes out with "Hey, BvS isn't supposed to take itself seriously, it's just a fun time at the movie" which is like the direct opposite of what the film was promoting itself as for the past two years.
The only time I've ever seen a studio lose it's shit this hard was when Sony got hacked and the plans for the Spidey franchise got leaked
>>81480659
Nope, Disney has all the good talent on lockdown with strict contracts.
>>81479061
They need a token minority also Cyborg was a JL member in new 52
>>81480749
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/warner-bros-pursue-green-lantern-205703
>Warner Bros. to Pursue 'Green Lantern' Sequel
>10:23 AM PDT 6/26/2011 by Pamela McClintock
>The studio won't walk away from the superhero franchise, despite the film’s soft box office performance.
>Warner Bros. is already planning a sequel to Ryan Reynolds' superhero pic Green Lantern, despite the film’s soft performance at the box office.
>Sources say Warners still believes in the franchise, even if the studio is “somewhat disappointed” with Green Lantern’s result.
>Over the weekend, Green Lantern fell a steep 66% at the domestic box office, grossing $18.4 million for a cume of $89.3 million. That’s a big decline.
Keep in mind this article was written on June 26 while the movie was released in the US on June 17.
>>81480835
Have all the Sony emails been gone through yet?
>>81479061
Fuck Cyborg. They've been forcing him into literally everything dc has produced since early n52
>>81479210
This
or John Stewart
>>81480870
Actually DC could get Del Toro, OH WAIT THEY CANCELLED DARK UNIVERSE NEVER MIND
>>81478763
Because Justice League shoots in six days and they don't have anyone to replace them. Idiot.
>>81479061
A better question is why Cyborg got his solo movie announced years before WB actually knew if people would want to see it.
Why make a movie about him? He has no villains and no supporting cast other than his fathe
>>81479129
Those were the 9th and 11th films of the MCU, at that point it was okay to add characters no one cared about. I guarantee no one got excited at the Cyborg cameo in Batman v Superman. And I say this as a fan of the New 52 Justice League line up.
>Every DC movie going forward will be safe sanitized generic shit that lacks any style. Similar to Mahvel movies
How nice...
>>81478763
>Why the fuck aren't they fired yet?
Contracts.
Maybe they will pull a George Miller, who knows?
>>81481001
Please, with Snyder and Goyer still on board nothing will change. If bad reactions to MoS changed nothing, why do you think this will? They'll just change their tune in interviews but then do the same grimdark joyless flicks that take themselves too seriously
>>81480835
>tfw I actually like the tone of the DCEU
>enjoyed MoS and BvS
>want to see the story continue
>now they're going to ruin these films by shoehorning "fun" into them because of shit reviews from internet critics that think cape movies have an obligation to make you smile
If you think these movies suck now, they're going to suck even more when they become the forced, tonally inconsistent mess they're about to become.
>>81480875
And BVS just dropped 69.1%. At this rate Zootopia will be back on top next weekend.
>>81481001
Honestly, I'd prefer this to the trainwreck of Man of Steel and Batman v Superman. I just want to see shit like the Justice League hanging out in the Watchtower, but I feel like Snyder would never add that kind of stuff.
>>81481058
>At this rate Zootopia will be back on top next weekend.
Didn't Zootopia have a better weekend than BvS?
>>81481058
They're probably having a party over at the Marvel offices
>>81481054
they're already messes
just monotone messes
>>81481053
>If bad reactions to MoS
who exactly reacted bad to MoS? i really doubt that most people outside of intense superman fans were triggered by zod's death
>>81481090
Read a fucking comic book. Or watch JLU.
Oh wait, I forgot I'm on /tv/ jr.
>>81481126
It was less about Zod's death and more about the movie's grimdark tone as well as all the death and destruction. It's not what fans or general audiences wanted from Superman.
>>81481054
>enjoyed MoS and BvS
>want to see the story continue
Sony's 'Amazing Spider-Man' fans will keep you company
>because of shit reviews
And most of the world
And WB shareholders when the BO settles
>>81481126
>56% RT is good
ok
>>81481132
Well yeah I do read the comics and I have watched JLU. It's just a shame to see the same characters turn grimdark and anti-fun because Snyder doesn't seem to think that people enjoy typical superhero films.
A good comparison is The Flash Season 1 vs Arrow Season 1. Arrow was scared to embrace the comic book side of the character, so went full grimdark and realistic and it kinda sucked (Not as much as it sucks now, but still sucks.) But Flash from the get go was full comic book, and Season 1 was the hypest shit ever. The DCCU should take note of that.
>>81481126
OK, let's say then:
"It never resonated with audiences"
Same results.
People liking a movie = good
People disliking a movie = bad
>>81481091
It only dropped 19.7% in like its 5th weekend.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
>>81481054
>cape movies have an obligation to make you smile
Batman can be dark and depressing, is his character. Superman is supposed to be the American dream, what people aspires to be, the kind of person that inspires you confidence in him and in yourself.
>>81479469
I was actually thinkingalong the same lines myself. My vote is that a couple months down the line he will announce he is stepping down as director because his producer responsibility won't leave him time to do justice to JL.
>>81479287
I was going to say that would be a good idea seeing as how The Rock is black and he could play Batson instead of Adam, but then I remember that apparently Samoan's aren't categorized as being black and The Rock is actually Asian.
>>81481132
Comics are a medium with barely any growth domestically, and almost no presence outside the US (Talking about the American Superhero genre).
And "JLU", the 2004 cartoon?
Do you understand why most people wants to see the common representation of the heroes in the big screen?
>>81481172
>It's not what fans or general audiences wanted from Superman.
Stop fucking lying there are plenty of fans of Dark Superman, hence why Earth One got 3 volumes, hence why Injustice keeps going.
>>81480921
>hiring someone who takes ten years to make a movie
>most of the time those movies don't even make their money back.
nice meme
>>81478763
Never forget
>Snyder took a shot at the Marvel Universe in an interview with The Daily Beast. While addressing Steven Spielberg’s comments that “there will be a time when the superhero movie goes the way of the Western,” the filmmaker said Marvel heroes are a dime a dozen.
>“I feel like he’s right. But I feel like Batman and Superman are transcendent of superhero movies in a way, because they’re Batman and Superman,” Snyder said while promoting Doritos’ final Super Bowl filmmaking contest. “They’re not just, like, the flavor of the week Ant-Man — not to be mean, but whatever it is. What is the next Blank-Man?”
And then Ant-Man got better reviews that Batman v Superman. And a better audience reaction. And got better openings in several countries. And kept topping for several weeks while BvS declined. And got a sequel greenlit despite being a "flavor of the week" and not a "trascendent".
>>81481289
Bullshit if Batman can have Adam West & TDKReturns and both be considered valid so can Superman.
>>81481058
>At this rate Zootopia will be back on top next weekend.
Could this seriously happen? Hasn't it been out for like 4 weeks now?
>>81481054
>tfw I actually like the tone of the DCEU
>enjoyed MoS and BvS
>want to see the story continue
Kek
>>81481054
>enjoyed MoS
I bet you like new52 supes, faggot.
>>81481126
MoS is probably the ultimate example of a love it or hate it movie.
>>81481529
And a sequel
>>81478763
Pic related proves it. Watchmen was great.
>Literal Nepotism
Wait, who's the chick with Snyder?
I have no problems with a cape movie being fun. My problem is wanting it to be fun after you spent the better part of 5 years effectively calling yourself the opposite of Marvel even having the director put Marvel down in your interviews and then completely backpedaling because they just don't want to admit they are literally playing follow the leader.
Like holy shit, at least the Fox X-Verse actually was different and adapted themselves to audience reactions properly
>>81481529
>Steven Spielberg’s comments that “there will be a time when the superhero movie goes the way of the Western,”
That's a dumb thing to say. Superheroes aren't genres. Most are just action/adventure/comedies, but there's still plenty of room to play with that.
First Captain America movie was the whole WWII period piece/sci-fi thing. Ant-Man had the heist stuff going on.
Westerns have just a few things that make them western, primarily the setting and the kinds of characters involved. Superhero films shouldn't ever have that problem.
>>81481556
It's never happened before but at the rate the money's coming in there's a slim chance BVS will make >15 million and Zootopia will make <15 million.
As someone who sees MOS as a gift from God, I am immeasurably happy to see Snyder consider his incredible work.
To you selfish sadist scum that gleefully try to destroy any piece of entertainment made for people with different preferences then you... pic related.
>>81481632
>Watchmen was great.
No
>Wait, who's the chick with Snyder?
His wife. A producer at WB and probably the reason why he's even still making movies
>>81481053
As opposed to formulaic quip fests that are basically the same thing over and over. God forbid DC set themselves apart or anything
>>81481503
>hence why Earth One got 3 volumes
Jeez, and how much was that? 1000 copies?
Seriously though, "plenty of fans of Dark Superman" are a subsection of an already niche audience: Comic book buyers.
Are you really trying to make a case that those numbers would translate into a 1+ billion-making blockbuster? Worldwide?
Box office of BvS should already give you an answer. Heck, China BO alone should suffice.
>>81481632
The comic book, yeah. The movie is the cinematic embodiment of missing the point.
>>81481053
>joyless
I got plenty of joy watching the Trinity take down Doomsday.
>>81478763
They put up most of the development costs of the upcoming movies.
Without them, there's no project.
https://m.soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/batman-v-superman-spoiler-special-with-zack-snyder-charles-roven-deborah-snyder (starts at 5:55)
>"I kinda came to the conclusion also that they couldn't really talk in their suits, um, with any credibility..."
>"... more than 4 or 5 lines and you start to notice, like wait, these are two guys ... one guys dressed up like a bat and the other has a big red 'S' on his chest, and they're being super serious about how mad they are at each other..."
If Snyder really believes that superheroes talking in costume can't be taken seriously, Justice League is going to suck.
>>81481687
Is spouting /tv/ memes seriously the best you can do?
>>81479061
>>81479095
>>81479116
>>81479303
>>81480002
>>81480481
>>81480608
>>81480872
>>81480892
>>81480949
Cyborg is really a great character opportunity for the 21st century . This guy is the Swamp Thing or Animal man for science ideas and memes. We live in a world in which we are virtually omnisentient, knowledge, infornation and data about almost everything is at external acess to us. What is the mind like of a person constantly embodied in that?
>Have you heard this new song
>I've heard every song
All our culture. All our information, are hopes and fears, the collected conscious of mankind, in one person. Call it hypercrisis, call it the singularity, call it whatever, but that is something purely unique to him.
Thats revolutionary.
Now wrap that up in DC Comics super science and transhuman character dynamics and you have a amazing character. Right up there with Superman, Dr Manhatten and Alec Holland in narrative potential. Circumstances aside, Cyborg is a great choice for an a list upgrade.
>>81481768
>Justice League is going to suck.
what a surprise...
>>81481740
>Snyder fundamentally misunderstands the works he adapts, as can be evidenced by quickly comparing two scenes from “Watchmen.”
>When Nite Owl and Silk Spectre have sex aboard the Owlship to Leonard Cohen’s “Hallelujah,” they attack each other like rabbits who somehow know they’re not long for this earth, and the result is about as sensuous as a comedic cut-away to a railroad train repeatedly going into and reversing out of a tunnel. But when the same pair break into prison to rescue Rorschach, Synder films their hallway fight scene in delicate slow-motion, so that the audience can see every rib crack, every arm snap, every expression on the faces of inmates being broken. Moore and Gibbons’ book was about the need for connection and occasionally necessity of violence — Snyder’s film was about the mechanics of sexual intercourse and the sensual nature of violence.
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/18/ayn_rands_warped_superheroes_of_course_zack_snyders_vision_of_greatness_owes_everything_to_the_fountainhead/
>>81481768
>"I kinda came to the conclusion also that they couldn't really talk in their suits, um, with any credibility..."
Yeah Zack, everyone hated The Dark Knight for that reason right?
Maybe you should give them dialogue beyond:
>DO YOU BLEED
>MARTHA ISN'T DYING TONIGHT
>CONSIDER THIS MERCY
and see what happens.
>>81481054
Oh, right, that's why The Dark Knight movies were failures of epic proportions. Thanks for enlightening me about that!
>>81481632
>Watchmen was great.
So was his x-men, but without solid snake writing for him his movies are shit.
>>81481878
>The Fountainhead
The great irony here is that Snyder is more Peter Keating than Howard Roark.
>>81481810
>anything i disagree with iz a meme lel
Fuck off and take your autism with you
>>81481529
>Batman and Superman will be fine because they're trascendent
>But Shazam, Aquaman, Cyborg and Flash are totally fucked, sorry guys
This is the man in charge of driving the DCEU. A man who thinks that characters that aren't Batman and Superman are Blank-Man
>>81481821
You talk at length about the character but they probably just pick him because he was the most recognizable black superhero they had available.
And honestly I have no hope, they will just make him say "booyah" all the time and give him a shallow personality.
>>81481821
What they said about the character during the Rebirth panel sounded pretty interesting. I hope his new solo lives up.
>>81482103
The writers have brought up those themes before though. That greentext is from his solo
>>81481707
>Jeez, and how much was that? 1000 copies?
I think Superman Earth One is kind of shitty, but let's not forget the first one was declared a success six years ago (which is why the line is even continuing in the first place).
Comichron reports that in 2010, it got an order of 31,900 for that entire year. The month it debuted was October, and it got preorders then of 16,260. That means it did well enough that within November and December it got reorders of 15,640 copies. And then for years after that it still got reorders in the thousands. Considering typical reorders for trades are in the hundreds, I'd say that's pretty good even though I thought the first volume was a terrible book.
For non-comic places like Barnes and Noble, and Amazon, and so on, it got orders of 19,691 copies. By the standards of the bookstore market this is pretty good (it was DC's third best selling trade for 2010 in bookstores after Watchmen and Blackest Night)
But to make you feel better, Superman Earth One vol 3 only got like 19,000 orders on its debut last year in comic shops and 9,400 in bookstores and other non-comic shops.
>>81482010
Repeating dank /tv/ reposts is a meme yes
>>81482010
Responding in memeform doesn't help you.
>>81480817
Skyfather,Psychopomp, Earth Mother,Wisdom god, forge god,ocean god right?
>>81482337
>But to make you feel better
So you admit, your so pure fucking evil and selfish you enjoy seeing the decline or failure of things made for people that enjoy different forms of entertainment then you?
Your pure fucking garbage.
>>81482519
I think you don't even know what you're arguing about anymore.
>>81482376
ehh something like that
>>81482027
I bet he'll claim that those characters are also "trascendent" and totally better than Marvel characters
>>81481590
>MoS is probably the ultimate example of a love it or hate it movie.
No it wasn't. It was the ultimate "hate it or you're a fanboy moron or someone utterly lacking in taste."
BvS was the definitive proof that the approach MoS took was garbage.
>>81482564
You said "to make you feel better" so you expected him to enjoy or take solace in the fact that the sales declined.
>>81482780
I thought it was average. Like, it's a popcorn flick that pretends not to be, who gives a fuck?
>>81482780
Yes because people with REAL taste relish in and Jack off to quips, camp, sunshine and bright silly smiles.
>>81479025
>Nah, you could fire them before filming starts unless they were contractually committed to direct/produce it
>what are resources?
Even if they aren't binded by contract, you can't just fire them today, persuade someone else unless they want to. Then fly to wherever business location and immediately jump into the project.
>>81482837
And?
>>81482886
People who like Batman and Superman, and good movies.
I see these aren't your interests, but as long as Snyder is at the helm making this garbage, you won't get good Batman or Superman movies.
>>81482888
More tears! More!
>>81482973
And it makes you a fucking evil sadist that gets off to the suffering of others that have the exact same right to be catered to as you.
really this whole experience has got me thinking about how juvenile this all is. i appreciate how the movie played with some ideas that have been swimming around in my head, making me think that there is something to them but this is all just movies. i got disinterested with hero movies post avengers and do think bvs does some unique things but what so what? it's been clear to me that the intense 'not muh' is impenetrable to me, but the opposite view is also out of my reach. why does this shit even matter. why am i posting this.
>>81483098
So you admit you have no idea what you're arguing about anymore.
>>81483074
No reason to cry, Snyder make the fucking incredible MLS & The great-ish BVS, and now will go onto do JLP1 exactly as I want.
I win, you lose. Bitch!
>>81483098
Not the anon you've been having this bitch fight with, but if you're not just shitposting you need to step back from the computer and take a deep breath because it seems like you're on the verge of an aneurysm.
You need to learn to accept that BvS is an enormous, worthless failure and find a way to move on with your life.
>>81482906
If they are not bound by contract, then they can easily delay filming JL and start working on finding a new director. Then start filming when everything else is in place
But once filming starts there is no going back unless WB is ok with losing money for nothing
>>81478763
>it didn't make the exact number in it's second week as the first
IT'S DOOMED
>>81483136
I am arguing against people that want to end the production and existence of films such as MOS/BVS just because it's no their own cup of tea.
WB want their Avangers money NOW, they can't delay those movies by changing the directors.
JL: Mortal was canned a WEEK before shooting, with significant pre-production done. WB ended up giving Miller his entire salary as compensation for that.
>>81478763
The only way they could be kicked off at this point is if Warner bought them out. The standard buyout clause in director contracts is usually in the millions.
Hiring a new director is doable, but he/she would need MONTHS to get up to speed and ready for the start of production. (and would likely have to redo massive amount of pre-production) Also, the actors, staff and location rentals would all be in limbo. Actors especially have short windows before they are contractually obligated to move onto other projects they've signed on for. Several would likely have to be recast.
Don't be surprised to see Synder dumped after JL Part 1 finishes and someone new brought in for Part 2 and beyond. BvS will haunt Warner for a long time and has caused the DC movie brand at least a decade of damage that they will need to repair. Don't be suprised if budgets for Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg are cut down and the production has to scale back to smaller set pieces. (though this could be a good thing and force them to get creative with what they have)
>>81483198
It hit a massive decline and it's Friday and Monday takes had no difference.
>>81483205
That doesn't sound like what you were saying.
>>81479196
Barry only kills citizens of earth 2 thank you very much!
>>81483182
Or you can accept that I'm getting the films I want and love and your not like a fucking man instead of lying about the film you pathetic cocksucker.
>>81483198
It was only supposed to drop 50-60% in its second week, especially since it had zero competition. Read all the BO autism in the thread and you'll understand how dire this is.
>>81483160
>I win, you lose. Bitch!
This is pretty sad. Is this what it's like for Snyderfags right now?
Thanks to these deadweights there may not be too much more to the DCEU unless their performance at the box office really picks up.
You've entered Amazing Spider-Man territory, where shit movies can eke out some profit but the diminishing returns and momentum killed a potential universe.
The DC characters being so huge gives the franchise some cushion, though. There's still time for WB to turn things around if they change shit up with the future movies.
Which, hey, by all accounts they're doing. They're working furiously to make the upcoming movies less like BvS.
Enjoy!
>>81483276
>Or you can accept that I'm getting the films I want and love
You don't sound like you want or love the films.
>>81483242
Why did the can that anyway?
>>81483242
Times have changed, the situation back then as not like it is now. WB is under a lot of pressure now, if they back off from their superhero plan their shareholders would be pissed.
>>81483264
Yes it is exactly what I have been saying.
Some hate dark superman and don't want him to exist in any format and I am asking for fairness and balance.
You got your 5 campy happy films now it's my fucking turn.
>>81483205
They should fail and end all production because the films are awful. They need to clear the field for new, better movies about these characters to be made.
>>81483276
Your opinions are wrong and you're a bad person for having them.
I'm taking great pleasure in seeing this garbage crash and burn. Can you collect your tears in some container and mail them to me?
>>81483345
> now it's my fucking turn.
Nope! BvS has done so badly WB is moving away from that shit as fast as it can.
Gonna have to wait some more, sonny.
>>81483300
Then you completely lost track of our conversation, fuck off.
>>81483345
>and I am asking for fairness and balance.
If you were you wouldn't be coming off unstable with every post you're making. It sounds like you're pretending to ask for fairness and balance as an excuse to attack other people.
>>81483346
DARK SERIOUS EPICNESS IS NOT FUCKING AWFUL JUST BECAUSE YOU WANTED GENTLE SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS, BURN THE FUCK IN HELL!
I am still mad.
I will always be mad.
On my deathbed I will still be mad.
When the seas heat up and the world descends into global catastrophe I will still be mad.
In the afterlife, when I get to the gates of Heaven, St. Peter and his angels will ask me "Are you still mad about Martian Manhunter?" And my reply will be "Yes."
When the race of man is no more and the ruins of cities have crumbled into dust I will still be mad.
Ancient alien civilizations will find the smoldering, volcanic corpse of the Earth and decode the ancient secrets of the Internet and they will find this post and so my eternal anger will be brought forth into the far-flung reaches of outer space.
When the last tiny flash of heat in the universe dies and all fades away into entropy, my hatred will remain.
I'm still so fucking mad I took the time to write this stupid fucking post, and it still doesn't make me feel even the slightest bit LESS mad
I fucking hate you WB
>>81483414
>fuck off.
It sounds like you're trying too hard to convince yourself that you "want" and "love" the films taking shots at other posters that don't agree with you.
>>81478763
Give up, accept this is the "Injustice" universe and enjoy all the misery porn, then wait for a reboot in ten years for WB to actually do a decent DC adaptation.
>>81478811
That doesn't make sense. At the end of the day, this is a movie that has Batman & Superman in it. It'll at least break even, just like BvS did.
Its retard proof and thats all the Snyders need to show WB they aren't incompetent even though they blatantly are.
Everyone needs to understand that JL: Mortal was an extremely unique situation because of the writers strike. Large parts of the script where unfinished and the production had no way of finishing without it.
Warner did try and get it back together afterward but just couldn't schedule everyone and everyplace back to production start status. So they just dropped the project and lost millions. It remains one of their biggest losses and black eyes.
No way is Warner doing it again when they have a complete script and everything planned this time.
>>81483453
Why do you hate BvS so much to mock its fans by impersonating them? You're a fucking evil sadist.
>>81483453
"DARK SERIOUS EPICNESS" may not be awful, but BvS sure as hell was.
Take your meds, anon, you're going to hurt yourself.
>>81483506
You can't really impersonate BvS fans because there aren't any.
>>81483190
Do you realize how much money they have probably spent leading up until now. It isn't like filming is the day they begin buying sets, costumes, locations, making sure their actors are going to be free during filming, getting the crews together, setting up transportation to wherever filming will take place.
It begins in six days and they have a schedule to keep based on when these movies are going to be released at the optimal time. look how much shit moving bvs by a few months caused, people were freaking out.
They cant just go 'yeah lets fire the guy we put in charge of the entire fucking creative thrust of this whole universe and start it from scratch'.
Because the next guy isn't going to walk in and just figure shit out in a month or two, you are going to have an entirely different creative direction restructuring all the releases in the forseeable future. Snyder wasn't just some work for hire he was the guy they got to be behind the whole shebang.
>>81482337
It's still funny to me how *little* actual comics sells.
Given how popular capeshit movies (and games) are, I would consider it much higher.
Number of people buying a book in a month is lower than number of people buying capeshit videogame in about a week.
It's true that book is vastly cheaper to make and so, there are hundreds of floppies and trades every month. But it's still lower than I would guess.
That reminds me that I haven't bought anything in about a year. Saving money and all, it's still easier to pirate it. But I bought Injustice and went to see BvS.
....yeah I am a part of the problem I guess
>>81483281
except it still made a shit ton, it had the 4th highest opening ever, of course the drop is gonna be big. no one can make that amount of money every week
>>81483432
I've been tortured and attacked by sadist since 2013 for not being apart of their camp loving hate cult, I have the right to tell these fuckers to fuck off right back.
>>81483597
Movies and games are more engaging/easier to digest, plus easier to get into.
>>81483198
It made a something less than Deadpool's 2nd weekend
Batman and Superman, two of the most iconic and beloved heroes ever + Wonder Woman, are sweating to keep up with the small-budget, R-rated, China-less movie of a prankster
>>81483454
I like you.
>>81483624
Why do persist to pretend to be a fan of Snyder's films? Does it make you happy to mock people who like them?
>>81481572
New 52 Supes is perfectly fine, anon and this is coming from someone that thinks Man of Steel is one of the worst examples in the comic movie subgenre
I was surprised this didn't do better in China. People there seem to really love the big dumb explosion films.
Guess even they have their limits.
>>81482780
It's hardly that terrible. I'd put it above half of Marvel's output so far. Certainly not the worst thing I've ever seen nor the best.
>>81483463
I'm taking shots at them because they are the equivalent of a girl who throws her brother's Gi Joe in the burning fireplace just because it is not pretty like her barbies.
1.jpg, where are you. I miss you.
>>81483727
Reminder: there isn't any espectacular action setpiece in BvS until 2 hours in.
>>81483731
above the thor movies, hulk and MAYBE iron man 2.
The most frustrating part is that Affleck is literally RIGHT FUCKING THERE. WB could beg him to take over so they can shitcan Snyder and prevent a huge delay. There's no way he's not at least disappointed that he's got to work under that fuck up again when he actually knows how to direct a good movie. He did re-writes during BvS, I don't see him suddenly unwilling to try and fix shit now. WB is retarded if they aren't sucking his dick to try and get him to take over even just temporarily.
Or maybe, I dunno, pay him more to babysit Snyder and make sure another mess doesn't further poison the DCEU.
>>81483624
Can you show us where they hurt you?
>>81483727
Bad timing. A lot of local, Chinese competition, that is doing better than expected lately.
>>81483727
That's because it's competing against local blockbusters. It's not doing too hot in Japan either. But that's because there's only one superhero they care about...
>>81483751
Uh huh. A likely cover story.
>>81483470
>accept this is the "Injustice" universe
I fucking WISH this was the Injustice universe because that would actually make sense
>>81483822
A Japanese Spider-Man movie (or a modern movie of the old 70s Supaidaman TV show) would be fucking rad.
>>81481664
>implying Spielberg isn't right
>implying capeshit isn't just today's equivalent of westerns in the 50s, spy films of the 60s, kung-fu of the 70s, macho man bodybuilders with guns shit of the 80s, etc
Anon, do you even movies?
Just because the MCU adds a little twist to their movies to make them stand out a bit, it doesn't mean these aren't all firmly capeshit. For fucks sake, they montaged almost all the actual WWII fighting in First Avenger in one of the most cartoonish ways possible.
>>81483788
I found it on the same level of mess as AoU, but with prettier camera work and OST.
ofc, even AoU's quiptron was better than Lex and Doomsday, so...
>>81481676
easily one of the most autistic posts I've ever seen on /co/
>>81483822
Marvel movies are doing great there in general, no?
But yeah they love Supaidaman.
>>81479185
>wallah
The word you're groping for is "voilà." It's French.
>>81481763
>snyders are literally funding these movies
no they fucking aren't
>>81483731
It was garbage. Dull, drab, garbage. And that's before you get to the issues with the characterization.
BvS just took everything that was wrong with MoS and dialed them to 11. WB should have heeded the warnings.
>>81483904
Ultron had some good stuff and had characters I have gave a fuck about (IM and Cpa, mostly).
>>81481821
>Cyborg is really a great character opportunity for the 21st century . This guy is the Swamp Thing or Animal man for science ideas and memes. We live in a world in which we are virtually omnisentient, knowledge, infornation and data about almost everything is at external acess to us. What is the mind like of a person constantly embodied in that?
Someone saw that Geoff Johns/Kevin Smith shill fest on CW.
>>81483904
Ultron didn't have a piss jar, though.
>tfw no more Green Lantern movies thanks to that fucking 2011 bust
thanks DC you fucks, my favorite concept of super heroes/villains is fucked.
>tfw no Siniestro Corps wars and everything that comes after that
i wanted to see Larfleeze.
>>81483994
You might end up with Brown Lantern who spends most of the movie spouting terrible dialogue at the rest of the JL, then has a big set piece where he kills everyone on a planet for little discernible reason.
>>81483751
Is this one of those "I was just pretending to be retarded" situations where you think you're trolling everyone by pretending to be an idiot but everyone is just laughing at you being an idiot?
>>81483994
>mfw we'll never get a Blue & Gold movie
Was it too much to ask for? They are kinda obscure.
>>81484025
>mfw i don't like steward
fuck this, is the muslim lantern relevant? i stopped reading shorty after that.
>>81483994
>Wanting Green Lantern set in Snyderverse
Be careful what you wish for, Anon.
All the colors will be gray and they will all have the power of depression and angst.
>>81484148
Heh, I wasn't even going for that. I was just joking about the drab look and violence of Snyder DC films.
At this point I can't imagine WB producing the awesome glittering colorful space opera Green Lantern we want. It's like the exact opposite of BvS.
>>81484156
i haven't thought of that.
its a blessing in disguise.
>>81483790
WB begged him to direct JL years ago. I imagine that it was only after he said no that they were like fuck it Snyder seems to be only one of our guys that does.
Damn shame, I really don't want Flash to be raped too.
>>81480747
>Snyder himself said
Thought that was Terrio.
I really want to see Snyder attempt to put some lighthearted fun into JLA.
It will probably end like the stupid "Halleluia" song in Watchmen.
>>81479116
But the best green lantern is the black one.
T. Only seen the cartoons
>>81484290
he tried humor in BvS, after the scene where they almost burned martha, where batman fought to death like 20 people and like 10 minutes after trying to kill superman lol.
it was... completely in place and tone with all the scenes before and after.
Putting Black Robocop is fucking boring, they should have gone with either Guy Gardner or Martian Manhunter.
I bet the nigga can't even be CURAHZEE or remove his pain inhibitors.
>>81483974
No but it sounds cool, link?
>>81483822
>that huge head attached to a kawaii body
Kek
>>81478763
I blame Deb Snyder more than Zack
>>81481676
I agree with most of this
>>81484992
why, all of hack snyders movies are shit
>>81485090
I liked 300 and WM
JL shouldn't be anything like those, of course...
>>81485064
It's a troll post that you see popping up in every one of these threads.
That is to say, you're an idiot.
>>81485237
>I liked 300 and WM
It's okay to be wrong, anon.
It's good of you to let us know your opinions have no value.
>>81484503
And it was the only thing that got any reaction front the audience in my screening.
>>81483454
>>81483646
I like you both of you, but I'm mad about Hal not being in JL
>>81484072
There is nothing idiotic about demanding entertainment not be censored or destroyed just because you don't enjoy it.
>>81478763
why cant they drop him, didnt marvel drop Wright before antman?
>>81479299
>>81479616
>>81480820
It could be OK for just one movie. You bring him in late, explain he really doesn't have time for rewrites, he basically sticks with the plan as is. Let's be honest he's pretty good at emotional content and story telling in his movies the main problem is the plot twist endings. And if you let him put one in to this maybe it'sSuperman was under the effects of a Black Mercy the whole time while Zod used his telepathy to warp his dreams. So instead of his perfect life he gets the worst possible life he could Imagine. But Supes breaks free through sheer will and the JL movie becomes the last half of MoS again except done with less damage and more heroics. So City wide destruction and Bvs never happen.WHAT A TWIST.
>>81485765
So you're not pretending to be retarded, you're just retarded.
>>81485835
>the last half of MoS again except done with less damage and more heroics. So City wide destruction and Bvs never happen
As someone who thought the thing the last half of MoS did better than anything was prove why Superman needs a Justice League, and how the entire threat could/would have been much better managed with the Justice League, this pleases me immensely.
>>81486032
YOU ARE MORALLY FUCKING WRONG FOR TRYING TO TAKE ENTERTAINMENT AWAY FROM AUDIENCES BESIDES YOURSELF.
BURN THE FUCK IN HELL!!!
>>81480441
Funny thing is, there's only one theatre near me playing BvS on Friday as opposed to the nine that were playing it on opening night.
>>81481768
I don't know how the man still has a job at the helm of the god damn DCEU. I also don't know how Johns is able to say his work is good
>>81486311
maximum overkek
>>81485814
Wright more than likely left because of mandates that it be closer in line with MCU
For the longest time they were saying it was going to be a stand alone movie
>>81486311
>>81485765
>>81483751
>>81483414
>>81483276
You're not fooling anybody here anymore. Who are you really? Which /co/ regular? Xenos?
>>81483503
Set pieces and costumes are done and they also would have to pay the talent ouy of their contracts.
I am going to bet Snyder is being a bit more watched now though.
>>81479276
I care about ant man
>>81485090
Yea, but She-Snyder has a lot of weight as a producer while not understanding a thing about superheroes. She's full of bad ideas. For example, she's the one who cast Eisenberg as Lex and turned him into a sperg.
>>81480835
>>SS "allegedy" getting reshot to be more "fun"
HELLO! FARACI!
>>81487434
>Set pieces and costumes are done and they also would have to pay the talent ouy of their contracts.
>I am going to bet Snyder is being a bit more watched now though.
JL by george miller was canceled about to start filming. WB should at least delay the movie to work the script
>>81488436
No she wasn't that was literally Hack Snyder's idea
>>81489339
Because of the writers strike. Thr script was largely unfinished. They would be in the hole cancelling JL now just like they were then. They don't need to dely they just need to hire a secondary director quickly to keep Snyder in line and fix any script issues.
>>81489706
>they just need to hire a secondary director
But anon, they already have one on payroll, and he's even involved with the movie.
