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>>81441466

>Tony kills Bucky
>people still side with him

I hope he is killed at the end of the movie desu senpai
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>>81441487

I hate Bucky, he's the Loki of the cap movies.

They focus too much on him. I hope he actually does die
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Then people can complain about killing another gay couple.
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>>81441466
A man in a walking tank managed to take out someone who only had a robot arm... not very impressive.
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>>81441983
I'm more for it now.
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>>81441466
Amputee porn when?
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>>81441487
>Tony kills an dangerous unstable Soviet weapon
>People give him crap for it.
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>>81442160
Katawa Bucky
>Bucky enrolls in Yamaku Academy and triea to romance the KS girls
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>>81442265
This post is how you know MCU fans are all tumblr girls and not comic fans...
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>Tony Stark Sincero

Vai da o cu.
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>>81441562
>he's the Loki of the cap movies.
>They focus too much on him
Loki is appearing in his 4th movie as a main character in ragnarok
this is barely Bucky's second appearance as main focus
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>>81442618
What did he mean by this
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>>81442865
Is there any reason to have hope for Thor Ragnarok after TDW? Please give me some.
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>>81441466
Okay, I think everyone is being too light on Tony.
Wtf is his armor made of? It tanked every blow Ultron gave it without a Scratch while destroying first Ultron with each blow.
And now? It's tanking blow after blow of a vibranium shield and it's gonna rip Bucky's arm? Wtf?
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>>81445559
it honestly doesnt make sense

especially considering the fact that his armor has to have a thinner layer in order to fit himself inside of it.
also its completely dangerous to be wearing a metal suit. if he got hit hard enough the metal should collapse into his body locking in place where it was bent. a horrible way to die.
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>>81445534
there's a slim chance Hulk will be in his Planet Hulk persona
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>>81445715
Eh, that doesn't really help much. I want another good Thor movie, and if the most I have to look forward to in Thor 3 is the possibility of seeing Hulk then that's kind of conflating the problem.
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>>81445655
Getting hit by Mjolnir only left a dent on the mark VI, and the mark III tanked a tank shell without a scratch
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>>81445655
A better material for his armor would be ceramic. If a hard enough force hits it, it shatters rather than bending. Although "Ceramic Man" wouldn't be as marketable.
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>>81445534
There was a slight glimmer of hope, but the more news we get about the movie the more that glimmer dies.
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>>81445559
>>81445655
Carbon Nanotubes is the answer
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>>81445534
Unless you really love Hemsworth or Hiddleston, there's no reason to be hype.
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>>81442160
search up Hydra trash party.
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>>81447163
>Unless you really love Hemsworth or Hiddleston, there's no reason to be hype.
Sucks. They should have gotten Kenneth Branagh back to direct it, that would at least have given me something to hold out for.

I really don't understand how they fucked up this franchise so hard.
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>>81447263
Mah nigga
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>>81447346
Kenneth Branagh is a good director, the problem was that the script really held him back. The script held everything back
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>>81447346
They fucked up as soon as they got rid of his arrogance. When he took down those shield agents to get his hammer is still one of my favorite MCU scenes.

They also fucked up keeping Portman around when she clearly didn't want to be there.
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>>81441466
Why are they even fighting? This movie is a clusterfuck.
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>>81447516
Because Steve is protecting the man who killed Stark's parents.
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>>81441466
So like, is Cap legit superhuman or what? I feel like they try to play him off as a human level character but I'm pretty sure you'd have to be like 1000x stronger than a human to hurt Iron-Man with a punch.
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>>81447558
Now that the Russos are fully at the helm, he might as well be.

The way he was in the Avengers seemed more like a basic human with some extra strenght but TWS actually showed he was way more than an athletic human.

Thank God for based Evans making sure that Whedon didn't fuck his powerlevels in AoU.
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>>81447516
>I want to help Bucky
>pls Steve no
>but he was brainwashed
>but he killed muh parents
>but he's muh friend
>but I'm your friend
>I'm gonna help Bucky
>FUCK YOU STEVE, CIVIL WAR!

That's the movie.
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>>81447672
He threw a motorcycle with the same ease a man throws a football....
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>>81447767
Maybe he's getting stronger
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>>81447754
I wonder how many planks of wood RDJ is standing on to be eye level with Chris.
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>>81447831
More like Iron Manlet, amiright?
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>>81447831
Chris is just kneeling
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>>81447767
I think the cutoff for having metahuman strength is where you're so strong that you're bulletproof.
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>>81447831
3 suitcases filled with money
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>>81442190
>Tony the guy who was once a war profiteer and maintained his fortune people dying redeemed himself by realizing what he was doing and taking action to fix it and make ammends
>kills a guy who was brainwashed into a weapon and did horrible things without being in control of his actions never giving him the chance to make amends or redeem himself
Yeah why would people give him crap for it?
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>>81442564
>Katawa Shoujo
>tumblr
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>>81445534
well dark world was marginally better than thor 1 and had less earth stuff and more fantasy stuff.
ragnarok seems to be described as having even more fantasy stuff and no kat titties or natalie porman shown on the cast list.
so i dunno yeah i think there is a reason to have hope for it.
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>>81448480
>guy who was brainwashed
I think you meant
>guy who says he was brainwashed
Everyone can say "It wasn't actually me, I was brainwashed."

And even if it's true then how can he be so sure he won't turn into killer again?
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>>81442618
Sorre, i dunt espek feiojoada
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>>81447754
Still a better setup than BvS.
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>>81448567
>Everyone can say "It wasn't actually me, I was brainwashed."

Didn't Tony use a similar excuse after CW in the comics?

"lol guys I formated my brain and I'm now running a backup before the Civil war, so you can't blame me for the shit the other me caused!"
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>>81447831

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZcmTl_1ER8
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>>81445534
Might see something like this
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>>81448744
Let us hope it has a better resolution

>our moms have the same name!
>a cheap CGI monster is destroying empty buildings!
>INSTANT BESTIES
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>>81448532
>well dark world was marginally better than thor 1 and had less earth stuff and more fantasy stuff.

Thor 2 had more fantasy stuff but it sucked. Thor 1 was a better movie because Thor was more entertaining as a character, even though the movie was mostly a fish-out-of-water comedy with a few fights. Everything about Thor 2 was just plain boring and forgettable and demonstrated an inability by the writers to figure out what to do with Thor when either A) he's not part of the avengers or B) isn't being a bumbling fool trying to figure out how to interact with modern Earth.

On paper, yes Thor 2 was a step in the right direction by being more focused on fantasy, but it was two steps backwards because it failed the fundamental task of being a good fantasy movie.
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So #TeamCap is
>muh brainwashing
>muh Bucky
>muh Cap
>muh Cap 2
>muh Cap 3
>muh Hawkguy
>muh Falcon
and #TeamMan is
>muh parents are dead
>muh justice
>muh Cap
>muh Tony
>muh life
>muh superhero way
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>>81442564
>Katawa Shoujo
>Tumblr
How new are you?
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>>81448797
>I didn't understand the scene so I'm going to post memes

Batman refused to even acknowledge that Superman was a person up until that scene, and had lost his own humanity somewhere along the way. That scene was powerful because 1) it showed Batman that Superman was much more human than he'd realized, and 2) it was a sobering reminder that he was losing his own humanity to his obsession with vengeance.
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>>81448567
>guy who says he was brainwashed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGkkfzrgk_I
No more like
>guy who the movie shows is brainwashed.

And even if its true how can we be so sure tony stark won't get greedy and begin selling weapons to terrorists and making more ultrons and creating power sources that can sustain portals for aliens to invade through...again?

Sorry but your 'logic' can just as easily be applied to tony who you don't get people being mad at for possibly killing someone who never got the opportunity at redemption tony himself did.
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>>81449045
The scene could have given us the meaning of life and it wouldn't have changed how fucking stupid it was delivered
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>>81448915
Couldnt agree more. The only good thing in Thor 2 was Loki but even he went deadpool lol randomz jokez
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>>81449072
Tony never intentionally sold weapons to terrorists. He was just too drunk and too busy being a playboy to realize it was happening. Comparing him to bucky is a false equivalence.

Besides no one in the real world is held accountable for selling weapons to terrorists. US and Russia are pushing loads of weapons into the middle east
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>>81449072
I wasn't talking about what movie showed but what people in MCU know about Bucky. They even should question the fact that Bucky is young like Cap who was hibernated in Arctic Sea or something.

Also I'm not saying my logic can't be applied to Tony.
In fact I think they should do something about his shit in IM and AoU.
But that doesn't mean that they can ignore what Bucky did.
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>>81447558
>>81447672
Cap is "comic book peak human".
Superheroes in comic books that are "peak human" at Cap's level tend to be ridiculously physically strong, way more then they should actually be.
Example; Batman in the Arkham games can fairly easily rip free grates bolted into concrete and with one hand bend and warp metal covers over wiring in a slow and casual fashion.
You could say it's not canon, but Batman: Year One IS canon and in it he does stuff like toss fuckers through brick walls, shatter bricks with his bare hands and take down a good-sized tree by kicking it in the right place.
Superheroes, even ones WITHOUT powers are just insanely fucking strong, as over the top and grandiose as their basic premises are.
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>>81449072
Tony can't exactly watch the winter soldier bro.
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>>81447767
No, he was clearly putting effort into lifting it.
Cap isn't so weak that he can't accomplish amazing feats of strength, but he's no so strong that he doesn't have to exert himself when doing bigger ones like a normal person would.
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>>81449225
>Tony never intentionally sold weapons to terrorists. He was just too drunk and too busy being a playboy to realize it was happening. Comparing him to bucky is a false equivalence.
Exactly. He was in charge but shit happened despite what he might have wanted not because of what he wanted.

Comparing him to bucky makes perfect sense because Bucky also had no say in his own actions. He was broken, had his memory erased, and was brainwashed into being a weapon.

But tony gets to make up for what happened under his watch while its okay for him to prevent bucky from making up for what happened when he was out of his mind?
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>>81449298
>>81449235
you guys realize im not talking about in unvierse logic right. The post that started this line of disagreement was this
>>81441487
>Tony kills Bucky
>people still side with him

He was probably not (at least from what i saw) talking about people in unvierse siding with him but us as viewers siding with tony (considering op said 'based tony) despite him supposedly killing bucky.

the next reply was
>Tony kills an dangerous unstable Soviet weapon
>People give him crap for it.

So when I refer to tony getting crap from people i'm not talking about in universe i'm saying we as viewers who like this character or that are perfectly justified in giving one character crap for killing another character who due to his circumstance doesn't deserve death anymore than tony stark did.

I'm not saying tony stark doesnt have an in universe reason to take him out. I'm saying me giving him shit for it is entirely justified because his actions are hurting a person no more evil than he is.
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>>81449045
>Batman refused to even acknowledge that Superman was a person up until that scene,

"I'm sure your parents always told you you were special, mine thaught me a different lesson when they died in an alley"

The movie itself disproves your BS lol, Batman knew he was a person, he just din't knew he was a person with a mother also named Martha.

>and had lost his own humanity somewhere along the way.

That I'll give you

>1) it showed Batman that Superman was much more human than he'd realized

He already knew it, he saw him saving the world's people on a daily basis, he knew the senate bombing wasn't his fault, and he knew he had a family somewere and people who cared about him in the from of Metropolis citizens, he just didn't give a fuck because he had a crazy dream about Superman becoming evil because some red chicano told him so.


>2) it was a sobering reminder that he was losing his own humanity to his obsession with vengeance.

Something that Alfred, his father figure, directly tells him 2 times before Fight Night, wich in turn makes it feel really awkward when they need Lois to point it out in the climax of the battle.

Honestly, that fake leak about Bats defeating supes but taking heavy injures and needing Clark to fly him back to the batcave so Alfred can cure him was better protrayed than the real thing, as a moment for them to actually understand each others it woul have surpased by far the Louis and Martha thing

Call it "memeing" all you want, the moment was badly portrayed and gave a cheap and instant DeuxExMachina-solution because they had 20 minutes of movie that needed they on the same team in order to kill the last boss.
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>>81449318
Tony is corporate america can do no wrong and Bucky is communist slave.

Companies sell shit to terrorists all the time. What they cant do is assasinate people, unless you are Russia or US or Isreal.

If it really is bucky that blows up the UN he needs to be taken down. whether he is guilty or not, just to defend other free people
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Someone on /tv/ is claiming to have seen a cut. Zemo sounds fucking great if true.

Spoilers obviously:
>>/tv/67858015
>>/tv/67858227
>>/tv/67858567
>>/tv/67858667
>>/tv/67858892
>>/tv/67859399
>>/tv/67860946
>>/tv/67861978
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>>81449692
kek whoops
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> Tony doesn't trust the government at the beginning when there's no reason not to
> Government is later exposed as being corrupt at every level
>We need to answer to the government now guys

Can anyone explain how this makes sense?
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>>81448915
Poor Tom Hiddleston pretty much had to carry that whole movie, and not even he could save it.
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>>81445534
From what we've heard, they're putting all their weight into this movie into actually shaking up the Marvel Universe like Winter Soldier did. Plus, rumors about world hopping and very little earth a la GOTG.
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>>81449739
>>81449692

Don't buy it

We would've heard more spoilers at this point
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>>81450081
Lies. Entertaining lies, but lies nevertheless.
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>>81449739
>ZEMO ZEMO ZEMO ZEMO
Yes.
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>>81450081
yeah it sounds fake
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>>81449761

Covering his own ass considering he single-handedly (well, Banner helped) caused a near extinction-level event with Ultron.
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>>81447831
He's standing on Bucky's dead body.
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>captain america dies
>falcon turns into cap for infinity wars
I know it will happen
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>>81450669
>captain america dies
>he's back for Infinity War part 1
This is more likely.
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>>81445534
Hulk could be fun.

The director is legit good (but also solidly a comedy director so far)
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>>81441562
First of all, fuck you.
Second, he had like 4 or 5 scenes in the Winter Soldier movie and even less in the first Cap. Civil War will be the first movie to actually give the MCU version of the character an actual personality.
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>>81451646
>1.jpg
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>>81450308
Not gonna read the possible spoilers just in case, but this is all that matters to me.
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>>81451679
>Triggeredbyfilename.jpg
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>>81448753
He's rich. Can't he afford that bone-lengthening surgery where they break your legs and heal them up with braces so the bone's like 1/4 inch longer?
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>>81454294
It's hard for me to understand how, after centuries of medical and biological, advancement, we still can't change certain parts of our body without great risk and minimal results. Like how surgery can only add on a few centimeters to your dick, with a chance of ED.
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>>81456265
But what about fake tits? We made great progress in making them not look too fake.
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>>81451679
The fuck is this shit meme already?
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>>81442564
Anon...
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>>81456346
They make them look like the comics thata for sure
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>>81447831
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>>81456346
Eh, that's really just filling them with balloons, but i do agree.
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>>81447005

The Mark VI looked pretty bad after that fight and Thor was barely scratched. The armor's good, but not great.
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>>81447060
Hey, neat. Today I learned that gold-titanium alloy is used to bond with ceramics (mostly for dentistry, apparently).
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>>81441562
> Pic related?
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>>81441562
Bucky is the Jason Todd of Marvel. A character who should have stayed dead, but in comics no-one can stay dead, so they brought him back as the new and edgier version who fights their former mentor.
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>>81447005
Iron Man fanboys, always forgetting how Thor was literally crushing the armor with his bare hands.
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>>81449301
>but he's no so strong that he doesn't have to exert himself when doing bigger ones like a normal person would.

>Could literally pull a helicopter with one arm
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>>81447422
You just know Branagh wanted to push the mythic aspect of it alot more.
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>>81449761
Stark's enemies have been individuals with lots of power.
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>>81445534
>>81449896
I'e always loved Thor best when it gets all mythological. Hope we get to see some of that, but with Marvel's hate of magic I doubt it.
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>>81445534
Don't you like romcom movies anon?
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>>81450736
Batman V Superman spoiler: just like Supes
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>>81445534
from what has been leaked/released to the press it'll take a lot from Planet Hulk. Hulk and Thor will both be weakened and will fight as gladiators on some alien planet.

The problem is that it looks like it will be another GotG quipfest, in what is supposed to be a very dark and violent setting
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>>81468309
>Thor 3
>it's actually Planet Hulk

Fucking why, Marvel? First it's Cap 3 being Avengers 2.5, and now it's Thor 3 also being Incredible Hulk 2.
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>>81468483
>Thor 3 also being Incredible Hulk 2.

Sounds like an improvement to me
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>>81468483

To be fair, Planet Hulk was pretty damn good. Worse things to try to adapt.
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>>81468309
Do we know if it will be Sakaar? I wouldn't mind that. We've already seen the Sakaaran natives in GotG. I'd like to see the other races of the planet.
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>>81468483
>Fucking why
because Marvel can't make solo hulk movies
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>>81441562
that's QS, Tony is trying to bring him back as a weapon
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>>81442564
>implying best girl is tumblr
yo fuck you bro
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>>81445534
the director said it'll be the funniest thor yet http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Thor-3-Funnier-Promises-Director-108077.html
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>>81467131
>Superman
>dead
anon...
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>>81469760
I can live with funny as long as the script and direction aren't shit like they were in TDW. TDW couldn't make up its mind what it wanted to be. It was a lot grimmer and darker than Thor 1 but whenever it tried being funny it went full retard.
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>>81445534
No Earth. No Jane, love interest will be Hulk. Hopefully some Thanos.
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>>81441562
>I hate Bucky
I hate you anon
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>>81442160
Amputee porn already. But only more will come with this.
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>>81441466
TONY HELP! TONY'S TRIGHT TO KILL ME, WAAAAAAAGH
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>>81442564
>DCucks are new shits
Shocker
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>>81471045

>WAAAAAAAGH
Is Cap a WH 40K ork now?
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>>81471159
Marvel even being welcomed here is a new thing brah, you're the new one. Tumblr has invaded /co/
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