>>81367586
the ability to stand up against what is wrong.
overcoming fear or problems, being able to stand between what is wrong and say ¨If I don't, who will?¨
Their actions.
>>81367586
The will to act when it matters the most
>>81367586
Not indiscriminately murdering people because then they just become anti-heroes which isn't bad.
They are just no longer superheroes.
Being progressive and fighting for change, a no-kill rule, respecting women and other oppressed minorities, always fighting the establishment
>>81367586
Costume.
>>81367870
So Iron Man isn't a hero?
>>81367912
Captain America pls
Doing the right thing even when no one is looking.
>>81367912
This.
>>81367586
The prime difference between a hero and a villain is who they are willing to protect.
A hero puts other's safety ahead of their own. A villain prioritizes their own well-being over anything else.
>>81367912
Tumblr pls go.
bump for philosophical discussion
>>81368027
He's right though.
A superhero who isn't liberal has literally failed at his intended purpose. There's a reason most villains are portrayed as conservatives hanging onto some bygone, outdated mode of thinking like it still matters.
A hero is just someone, who knows they are free
>>81368027
>conservative murderers who hate women and minorities and who are dogs of the government
>heroic
>>81367586
HEART
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8C1WWixgc
>>81367586
https://youtu.be/BHgYtKkSEDA
>Back against the wall and odds
>With the strength of a will and a cause
>Your pursuits are called outstanding
>You're emotionally complex
>Against the grain of dystopic claims
>Not the thoughts your actions entertain
>And you, have proved, to be
>A real human being, and a real hero (x4)
>A real human being...
>A pilot on a cold, cold morn' (morning)
>155 people on board
>All safe and all rescued
>From the slowly sinking ship
>Water warmer than
>His head so cool
>In that tight bind knew what to do
>And you, have proved, to be
>A real human being, and a real hero (x4)
>A real human being... (x3)
>>81367912
>Being progressive and fighting for change...always fighting the establishment
So what happens when you get the world you want? You going to fight that too?
Luck.
>>81368068
>>81368136
Leave it to tumblr to bring politics into a philosophical discussion about what a hero is.
>>81368068
Well put comrade! Rest assured, we will have our heaven on earth.
>>81367938
>Iron Man
>Hero
You do realize that the entire point of the Civil War event, and much of Marvel in general was that no one is a hero?
>>81367586
Public opinion.
>>81368224
You keep fighting injustices against oppressed minorities for as long as it takes.
>>81368239
a fictional hero's worth is measured by their politics and philosophy
>>81368264
>You do realize that the entire point of the Civil War event, and much of Marvel in general was that no one is a hero except for Spider-man?
ftfy
>>81367938
no, he's a self-serving futurist. don't you read comics?
>>81368332
Fair enough.Until he made a deal with the Devil.
>>81367586
I always thought the point was to save people.
Ya'know, like Superman.
But apparently it's to fight contrived super villians.
>>81368328
>is measured by their politics and philosophy
Philosophy yes, politics no.
>>81367586
Laying your life on the line and giving it your all to order to protect those who cannot protect themselves and not expect anything in return
American capeshit lost the meaning a long time ago when they sacrificed it on the altar of political correctness and liberal pandering for the sake of sales in a flagging industry.
You become a symbol of hope to those who need it. No going to papers for interviews, no spectacular earth shattering battles, and no fights costume villains on a daily basis.
>>81367692
Mumen pls
>>81368402
Politics are everything. A superhero that isn't liberal has failed utterly at their purpose.
The ability to stand up for what is right, even when it means your life.
(which is what makes it so hard for many people to like Superman, since there are only one or two things that can kill him)
>>81367586
I've always considered a hero as someone who brings a sort of balance to a situation unbalanced by an outside force.
A women walking down the streets is mugged? The criminals get beaten up by Batman. She keeps her money and belongings, while the criminals are beaten and sent to jail for creating that situation to rehabilitate.
The women didn't asked to be mugged. The criminal created the wronged situation. The hero returns things to balance.
This is how I perceive a hero to be.
>>81367586
As someone who gets called one, it comes down to about ten seconds of decision making. It's about doing the right thing, for the sake of doing the right thing, even if that means you are putting yourself in danger by doing so. It's about running toward danger, not away from it. You don't go looking for it, but you always respond when it happens close to you. And never think yourself a hero, because you'll set yourself up for an Icarus situation, or even a Lucifer situation. Just be the person that the situation calls for, even if that means you may die.
That's how you are a hero.Me personally I'm a traveler who has seen alot of people, and a lot of places.
>>81368855
Get your head out of your ass you pretentious twat. Why does /co/ breed these people?
How nice their ass is
>>81367586
Doing good, especially when that means jeopardizing their own welfare.
This is the true synthesis of a hero.
>>81368869
>doesn't get the reference.
Here, I'll help you friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TjmQs4GiDo
>>81368776
>superhero
OP said hero, not superhero. Cops, firemen, ambulance workers who do their job and protect people are heroes too. They don't have to be liberal to be heroes.
>>81368973
>cops
Are you serious? Like are you serious right now? Do you not see the state of the United States right now?
>>81368988
Jamal plz go
![[HnG] Shin Kyuseishu Densetsu Hokuto no Ken ZERO Kenshiro Den (DVD).avi_snapshot_01.27.11_[2014.01.17_14.28.23].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XBvQ9Oi.jpg "[HnG] Shin Kyuseishu Densetsu Hokuto no Ken ZERO Kenshiro Den (DVD).avi_snapshot_01.27.11_[2014.01.17_14.28.23].jpg")
Protect the innocent. Destroy the guilty.
>>81369006
Racist to boot. Really doing a lot for your point there.
>>81368588
I was actually quoting Goku.
>>81368973
>police
>literally gun-happy racist authoritarian bullies
>'heroes'
wow. just wow.
>>81368801
>(which is what makes it so hard for many people to like Superman, since there are only one or two things that can kill him)
Even if that were true, that's bullshit. There's only one thing that can kill any superhero, and that's plot. Batman has been in near death experiences and survived because of plot, and it's the same with Superman. Everyone is so hung up on the details of strengths/weakenesses that they ignore the facts.
>>81369043
>Implying I'm the same person who made the point.
>Multiple people can't have an opinion that goes against yours.
I'm trying my best to think what website you come from, because it certainly isn't 4Chan, because you'd be used to opinions that don't agree with yours that don't result in finger pointing of all persons against.
>>81369052
You only watched the dub huh?
>>81368988
>>81369067
I knew there would be bait posts like these, even though I specified "cops who do their jobs and protect people". Believe it or not, the news actually doesn't report everything. They report all the bad shit that happens.
>>81368801
More than this, no writer really puts himself in the shoes of Superman. A character who lives in a "world of paper". A character who could just enjoy life and his powers but chooses instead to be limited and devote himself to save as many people as possible. Too many people think that being Superman is too easy, because too few stop to really think on his state
>>81369121
The cops aren't there to 'protect' you. They are there to get their racist rocks off and bully minorities and shoot them when they get fed up with the abuse see >>81368324
>>81367586
WHAT MAKES A MAN? IS IT THE WOMAN IN HI ARMS?
>>81369258
Cops are overseers of the public peace. Generally they are not heroes, but they are in a position to become that if under the right circumstances they act to protect someone at the expense of themselves.
>>81367586
Pic related
Being willing to do what others won't to help people
>this whole thread
>>81368988
stereotyping is wrong you bigot
>>81373208
You can't stereotype oppressors.
To defend mankind and obliterate her enemies to the last lifeform
The real root of the moralfag hypocrisy is that their actions and decisions simply aren't founded in any reasonable human behavior, and make unbelievable and shitty characters because of it. The only reason they can do it is because they're given lolplot super powers and virtually never feel any repercussions for their actions.
As an example from the vidya. someone like Ramza typically isn't called a moralfag despite the fact he constantly makes decisions that benefit others rather than himself. This is because he constantly struggles and sacrifices to do what he wants. He loses friends, is forced to kill relatives, and gains absolutely no honor or fame for his actions until long long after his death. He's never shown as feeling superior for his "good" choices, he simply does what he wants to do for his own reasons and that's that.
Meanwhile, Delita who pushes for the same goals with completely different means is never really viewed as evil because at the end of the day his "selfish" actions are truly beneficial to the entire kingdom for generations.
Human beings aren't complicated, which is why moralfags are looked down upon, when they're somehow even more shallow than an already simple subject. Evil characters typically avoid the same stigma because the excuse is usually that they're lolinsane
>>81369258
> "I'm so jaded as to believe there is literally no good left in the world and I'm willing to believe whatever the man on the tv wants me to believe"
Believe it or not, anon there are people out there who actually want to defend the public at the risk losing their own lives.
>>81375007
the american police have no obligation or apparent desire to be one of those people
>>81375069
You poor dumb fuck. Do you think police officers are stormtroopers or some shit? Do you really believe that every single police officer in the US is a racist bigot? No, you stupid shit, that makes up less than 1% of them, I'm sure. The reason you see those stories on the news is because they know that people will watch/buy their papers. Any time a white, mexican, or asian man is killed, it doen't nake national headlines the same way the death of a black man does. Because nobody cares.
>>81367586
Basically being someone that someone else looks up to.
So, basically, anybody can be a Hero regardless of morality.
>>81369016
Pity the offender, punish the offence.
>>81368324
Why just oppressed minorities? Why not oppressed people period?
>>81367912
/thread.
>>81367586
Being a Hero means never killing anyone even once, because killing someone is (apparently) the easiest thing a person can do.
Everything else is fair game, though.
>>81367586
tragedy
>>81378926
Because minorities are specifically targeted for oppression, dumbass, ESPECIALLY PoC.
According to comics?
Self-righteousnes, fascism, taking the law in your own hands, being short-minded and attacking the outcome of a problem instead of the problem itself, and spandex
>>81368068
>conservatives hanging onto some bygone, outdated mode of thinking like it still matters
What are paladins
>>81381783
Paladins are religious though.
>>81368988
I don't know what knid of shithole the 300 million of you people live in but the rest of us 6.7 billion mostly believe in the goodness of policeMEN. They save us from the baddies. I don't know where yours went wrong. Or why you try to smear ours with the actions of a select few.
>>81367586
Doing what is right, no matter what the consequences to themselves.
>>81373740
Alright guys, shut it down. It's been bait all along. Should have smelled something when he first posted the tumblr post but well, I like to believe in the goodness of people.
I repeat, this is BAIT.
>>81382085
Perhaps you'd feel better back on /pol/, stormfag. This is the wrong place to say this shit.
Putting on spandex and beating up victims, apparently.
>poor guy tired of being poor steals something
>punch him and throw him in jail
Couldn't Bruce Wayne with all his money try to help Gotham in a way that it would be a nicer place to live and people didn't have the need to steal?
Couldn't Superman, with all his power find a better way to change the world than overcrowding prisons?
>>81381944
You clearly are coming from a place of privilege where you have not been expose to institutionalized racism / oppression. I pity your ignorance.
Sacrifice.
>>81382188
You're not even trying anymore
>>81382769
/pol/locks never tried to begin with.
>>81367586
Selflessness
>>81367586
>What defines a Hero?
/co/
>>81367586
>"there's always another way" sanctimony
>don't kill, even in self-defense, but feel free to leave a person crippled or break as many of their bones as you want
>take the law into your own hands and break it to do 'good'
>rarely be accountable for any laws you break in the pursuit of doing 'good'
And, last, but most important of all
>wear yellow spandex
>>81367586
fun
>>81385140
And the lack of a licence for sure.But it probably is the kick ass and/or emotional theme music that kicks in every time you start a fight, depending on your style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoZPRA3r78k
>>81369094
Of course i did.
i was young.
Im not a weeb.
I aint rewatching that again.
besides DBZ is entry level.
>>81367912
I feel bad for the idiots that fell for this 99 cent store bait.
>>81386936
>it doesn't conform with my mindset so it MUST be bait!
>>81367586
One sentence:
>Don't worry, I'm here. It'll be okay.
>>81385780
based
fuck the weebs and their "superior" mentality
