How badly would the Avengers get bodied by the Justice League if they fought?
>>81331787
cinematic? they're gone
Comics... Marvel might stand a chance, but League shit's on a whole different level
Very badly.
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>>81331787
That's a pretty shitty League desu.
JLA Stomps in general.
Flash can solo Avengers.
Half the members of the Justice League could body the Avengers single-handed. Superman or Flash could beat them in nanoseconds.
Jk is a team of God's, you can't compare
Superman, Flash, Green Lantern, Batman, Wondy either one of them can solos the whole Avengers team
Captain Marvel vs WW
Cap vs Batman
Iron Man vs Cyborg
Widow & Hawkeye vs GL
Thor vs Superman
Hulk vs Aquaman & Flash
Might plAy out that way and cap would win thats it
Maybe Iron Man
>>81332150
Yeah. If they were operating under similar premises, Avengers would rule.
But we have "people with powers" against "gods".
JL just have no sensible limitations.
>>81331787
>The Justice League burries even more jobbers
>>81332254
thor would murk superman due to his weakness to magic. a proper fight would be:
thor vs shazam
sentry vs superman
nova vs gl
namor vs aquaman
JL bodies most incarnations of the Avengers.
But the thing is Marvel's strongest team has almost never been the Avengers, while DC puts most of their heavy hitters front and center. If this was say, the Defenders or Squadron Supreme it would be a closer fight.
>>81332174
I dunno about Batman and WWonder Woman.
Batman could with planning, obviously.
Wonder Woman's strong and extremely skilled, but she doesn't have the range of abilities that make Superman and Martian Manhunter so dangerous. Against a whole team of Avengers, they'd find some way to incapacitate her.
>>81333031
Wonder Woman could bring her magical gear and just chop everyone heads off
>>81331787
well first off it depends on the composition of the teams. move avengers group has already been changed and includes scarlet witch and vision and spider man will probably be in the 3rd avengers movie not just civil war
but dc gets owned. green lantern cant stop wood with his green light shit. hawk eye kills him with a wooden arrow.
superman got beat so bad by doomsday they thought he was dead. no kryptonie not red sun shit just brute force. what doesnt work on hulk? brute force he just gets stronger and bigger as he gets more angry
hulk in the comics regenerates he isnt just strong he is almost indestructable. hulk might not be able to hit the man of steel but he can cause a shock wave by clapping his hands and if he got mad enough it would be like a very strong explosion. splash damage
but not of that matters scarlet witch manipulates probability quantum style and wishes for dc to not exist and 3/4 dc character vanish. house of m style for the win
![IRGUOM8[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OuHNbqW.jpg "IRGUOM8[1].jpg")
>Flash wipes the floor with Hulk
>Superman manhandles Thor
>Batman and Captain fight, author's choice win.
>PeeGee and Manhunter tag team Wolverine and Spidey
>Wonder Woman, Aquaman, & Lantern demolish Iron Man, Widow, & Rogue.
Can anyone debate this?
>>81333783
>>Batman and Captain fight, author's choice win.
As soon as the shield is out of his hand the fight goes for batman.
>>81333180
>this whole post
kek
>>81331917
>Votes in favor of DD
Does Matt have Blacktonite?
>people implying the Justice League is better
Madara would destroy both teams
>>81333180
>but dc gets owned. green lantern cant stop wood with his green light shit. hawk eye kills him with a wooden arrow.
That was the weakness of the original Green Lantern, Alan Scott, who was never on the League, IIRC. The other Green Lanterns (the ones who are part of the Corps) do have a weakness to the color yellow, but that's a rookie weakness that is easily cancelled out by experienced GLs (and even novices can cover yellow objects in stuff that isn't yellow [e.g. paint, mud, etc.] and manipulate them then).
>superman got beat so bad by doomsday they thought he was dead. no kryptonie not red sun shit just brute force. what doesnt work on hulk? brute force he just gets stronger and bigger as he gets more angry
Here's the thing: Superman's only gotten more powerful since his fight with Doomsday. In addition, during one crossover, Superman stopped the Hulk by just letting Hulk attack him until he was tired and no longer angry, without even once striking back.
>hulk in the comics regenerates he isnt just strong he is almost indestructable. hulk might not be able to hit the man of steel but he can cause a shock wave by clapping his hands and if he got mad enough it would be like a very strong explosion. splash damage
Superman could destroy the earth on a whim if he wanted to. Even if Superman couldn't rely on the rope-a-dope strategy or pound Hulk into paste, the Hulk still needs to breathe and Superman doesn't, so Superman could just fly him into space and leave him there.
>but not of that matters scarlet witch manipulates probability quantum style and wishes for dc to not exist and 3/4 dc character vanish. house of m style for the win
Scarlet Witch generally isn't that powerful. Sure, there's House of M, but there haven't been subsequent feats to back it up. In fact, a common fan theory is that Scarlet Witch's exposure to the DC Universe's chaos magic in JLA/Avengers caused her insanity and power surge in Avengers Disassembled and House of M.
>>81332971
The Defenders is definitely the strongest fucking team. It's got 3 people who can beat up Superman, and Namor. Like legitimately, the Silver Surfer is one of the most powerful characters in comics period, the Hulk is pretty goddamn powerful as well, and Dr. Strange is pretty broken in terms of how good at magic he is.
>>81331787
Those specific line-ups? Team versus team, it's JL. There isn't even a true fight with this one.
Avengers would only gain victories in a numbers game where they fought single JL members. Avengers could sink Batman and Cyborg quickly, and possibly Wonder Woman and Aquaman after a long and costly effort, if they took each individual JL member on as a team. AM and WW have been shown to have conventional weaknesses despite being literal titans of power so there's a sort of balance to take advantage of, however skewed in their favor it might be. But you'd probably lose almost all of the Avengers just trying to take either one of those two down.
The rest of the League? If you have Green fucking Lantern as a gatekeeper, that alone says enough about how impossible it would be to beat the higher rungs of the ladder. It would have to come down to some immense bullshit just to get past GL, like playing on Hal's classic stupidity or something.
Flash and Superman, there's no real answer that the Avengers could muster. Thor's hammer is enchanted, but its projectile power is elemental, so it's iffy if that could even be a factor against Superman. At most you're looking at the hammer's lift spell and its ability to move itself as a definite thing that can be used against Superman, but the application of that is limited and you're still left with the question of how to even stop him fully. Pin him down with the hammer and start wailing on him? He'll survive every shot, and have free use of his hands and his heat vision. The only thing you have left is his lack of desire (but not totally inability) to kill, which is one of his only true weaknesses, but that only creates a stalemate under immensely specific conditions.
With the Flash, if he's fully unleashed and on point, there's no answer in any comic universe for him. Going down to the brass tacks of it, Flash moves faster than all of the mechanics that compose the universe. He's just above and beyond everything.
>>81334202
No. He is a white man with a law degree.
He's got this.
>>81335137
Scarlet Witch could possibly beat Flash
>>81335404
Kek
>>81334456
They are actually.
>>81334492
No doubt
>>81332924
It's hard to use your magical hammer when Superman cut off your arm before you could blink.
>>81334753
Best analysis
This really isn't a fair fight
>>81332924
JLA/Avengers proves you wrong, Thor couldn't do shit to Supes
>>81337938
Could Superman wield Mjolnir?
>>81338262
He could in JLA/Avengers.
>>81338311
That was stated to be temporary though and that he couldn't normally
>>81333031
But what scenario leads to the fight?
The only avengers squad that would body the league is one with Sentry in it. Or maybe one with Monica Rambeau.
>>81338372
Then the answer is; yes Clark can hold it when it's coming right at his face.
>>81331787
There's like four people in the JLA who could kill the Avengers single handed.
Movies? Depends on Scarlet Witch and Visions compatability vs Supes and Flash.
Comics? Certain Avengers squads could hold their own against certain setups of the League, but overall its a crushing victory for JL
>>81338488
So Ultimates?
Monica+America+King Batman+Black Stark should make some dents with lightspeed attacks through dimensions.
>>81335512
Scarlet witch has to think to use her spells. She would get killed literally trillions of times before she could process a spell.
There's a reason why in the crossover their excuse was just don't give Flash his powers.
Don't you fucks remember the He-Man / JL crossover, where even Skeletor took out not only the JL but most of the earth's superheroes?
Or how SpiderMiles singlehandedly defeated a demon that took out an entire avengers team?
Powerlevels dont mean shit
Whatever would happen on a JL vs Avengers story would depend on whatever the story demanded, not on what fans think should happen.
>>81331787
Specify which iteration of the League and which iteration of the Avengers, please.
>>81333853
a man with a super soldier serum that ensures he never gets tired will lose a martial arts fight to a normie.
>>81339347
That's true but at the same time He-Man is much, much stronger than Superboy canonically.
I'm Antony.
>>81339347
or just that time Deathstroke beat Flash by holding out his sword
>>81333853
>batfags believe this
>>81339347
yeah but the point of a vs argument is a trivia battle not literally arguing who would actually win, everyone already knows it's based on the requirements of the plot you fucking autist
>>81339411
Cap gets tired you casual wikipedia fag.
Fatige =/= Tired.
Calling a fucking peak human a normie is retarded.
>>81334753
>hulk needs to breathe
World War Hulk surfing a spaceship disagrees
>>81333783
Wolverine kills Manhunter with his cigar. Spidey is out of his speed class but Wolverine can maybe face tank Peeg unless she throws him into space or something?
>>81339411
Batman can fight for a week straight non stop. I seriously doubt it will last this long though
>>81339347
He-man strenght is comparable to Silver Age's superman.
Why do casuals think otherwise?
>>81335137
I am one hundred percent sure that classic Superman is worthy of mjolnir anyway.
>>81332129
Thor and the big green one might pull some stunts.
>>81339624
No, he isnt. He isnt willing to kill.
Wonder Woman is worthy, Superman isnt. Captain Marvel is the purest soul on earth (before johns) and he wouldnt be worthy either.
Ambush Bug & Deadpool win
>>81338405
>glasses on the pool table
Triggered
>>81339411
>>81339518
Not that guy, but Batman is always written as basically peak human anyway.
>>81339586
WWH was shit
>>81339719
Still happened Nikki.
>>81339586
He can hold his breath. He needs to breath or he enters "sleep mode".
>>81339749
But you know it shouldn't have happened Candace.
An x-men team has more chance to be competitive vs JL
Legion/Jean Prime/Xorn/Hope/Fantomex/Cypher
>>81339700
>is always written as basically peak human anyway.
He was peak human since at least 1940.
>>81339786
That may be true, but we have to take everything into account Duane.
>>81340090
Then why don't we also take all the other times that Hulk showed clearly a need to breath Traci?
>>81340144
The angrier he is the less O2 he needs
When you kill his wife and destroy his new adopted planet he stops needing oxygen or atmospheric pressure at all
Who wins in a solo fight between Flash and Hulk?
Fastest Man Alive vs. The Strongest One There is.
>>81340258
>STR vs DEX
They aren't comparable teams they fill a similar niche as the main team of their world but if you want a team that faces the same kinds of threats
Justice League vs Defenders
or
Justice League vs Annihilators
>>81340258
Flash is the fastest, Hulk isnt the strongest.
Flash can trow him into the speedforce, can just freeze him in time. And can K.O. him. Flash is just too powerful for Hulk.
>>81340316
>Defenders
You mean Jessica Jones and Daredevil? LOL:^)
>>81331787
Flash by himself would rape the entire Avengers roster. This includes extra characters that only appear for an issue or two.
Rogue touches Superman...What happens?
>>81340276
>>81340355
Two responses, and two completely different answers. And presumably people are going with modern Barry and Savage Hulk.
What if they went with Speed Force Wizard Wally West and... who's the better Hulk, Doc Green or The Professor?
>>81340412
She realizes she can have sex again without killing a dude and fugs him
>>81340412
Utopia established that she can only absorb so much power, when she touched Ares.
>>81331787
is sentry on the avengers side? what incarnations of each team?
>>81332924
>Originals vs Ripoffs
>>81338234
>Implying crossover comics are a fair assessment.
One of the rules posted in the DC offices is Supes may not lose in crossovers. Plot armor is fucking boring.
It's probably not as one-sided as most people think if we're going with just the MCU Avengers and DCEU Justice League. Scarlet Witch is probably the trump card to Superman and Flash, if she can 'control' them, it's basically anyone's game. Hulk is also about as unkillable as Supes is. We haven't seen much of what the Vision can do but intangibility isn't exactly something anyone on the Justice League can deal with.
I'd still say the JL because so far Scarlet Witch has done jack shit in terms of actual mindfuckery but it's a lot closer than it seems especially if we add in people like Black Panther.
If it's comics Avengers vs comics Justice League, I am almost entirely sure the avengers would win. Captain Universe is broken.
>>81340433
>who's the better Hulk, Doc Green or The Professor?
Anyone thinking Hulk can win is a retard.
Also the answer is the professor if you want superhero stuff, Joe if you like guns and whores, and green scar if you want an actual personality.
>>81340487
didnt He-man almost kill supes?
>>81340467
the sentry is the easiest one to take out. he was psychotic even on his best day. batman or ww would be able to talk him into some frenzied panick attack
I have heard it framed this way:
Marvel Comics are about ordinary people who struggle to extraordinary.
DC Comics are about extraordinary people, who struggle to be ordinary.
Ex: Iron Man is an alcoholic who struggles to be a hero and responsible with his tech. Batman is a crime fighting machine who struggles to have a personal life. Thor was one of those kids born into a high profile family that expects a lot of him. Wonder Woman is a goddess who doesn't quite understand mankind.
Now you can find contradictions or make arguments on either side to invalidate this, but if you like this blanket description, then it is a team of extraordinary people v some ordinary people.
>>81340487
>One of the rules posted in the DC offices is Supes may not lose in crossovers
I love when marvelfags lie about this kind of shit. There's not such rule. It never existed. And Superman actually lost in the FF crossover.
Hulk buttfucks everyone and keeps Superman busy
Everyone else just cheers Hulk
I am mainly an X-Men fan, and I think the only thing Marvel has that would be a big problem for the Justice League would be its reality warpers and magic users, the Scarlet Witch, Proteus, Strange characters.
Thor and Hulk are not going to beat Superman, and Marvel acknowledged that in crossovers, and pretty much in the Hickman Avengers.
Sungod defeats Hulk, and Superman defeated Thor and Hulk in crossovers.
If the Marvel and DC universes mixed, the big problem for the Justice League would not be the super strong people of Marvel, but the psychics, magic users and reality warpers of Marvel.
>>81340510
>It's probably not as one-sided as most people think if we're going with just the MCU Avengers and DCEU Justice League.
False
>Scarlet Witch is probably the trump card to Superman and Flash, if she can 'control' them, it's basically anyone's game.
Good argument actually
>Hulk is also about as unkillable as Supes is.
No he isnt. He isnt even close, he bleeds from conventional weapons, superman survived a nuke, and BROKE a mountain without even bleeding, the whole Zod fight didnt even got him tired, and he can fly at 900 times faster than the speed of sound as a rookie. that's 900 times the speed of quicksilver.
>We haven't seen much of what the Vision can do but intangibility isn't exactly something anyone on the Justice League can deal with.
There's no legue yet desu. But wondy sword can probably hurt him a lot.
>I'd still say the JL because so far Scarlet Witch has done jack shit in terms of actual mindfuckery but it's a lot closer than it seems especially if we add in people like Black Panther.
>If it's comics Avengers vs comics Justice League, I am almost entirely sure the avengers would win. Captain Universe is broken.
>>81340642
Supes loses to Batman everytime they fight how is he suppose to beat anyone
>>81340780
Magic is weaker in Marvel Science is better in general
>>81340800
We haven't seen Hulk become remotely close to dying. Superman however has actually died to a puncture through his heart.
I forgot about WW's sword though, I feel like WW could kill Hulk.
>>81340780
Illyana sends all the DC heroes to Limbo, goes and has a sandwich
>>81340780
thats why Jean is "in the white hot room" indefinitely, Legion wrote himself out of existence and Strange rarely does anything useful anymore.
taken to a en extreme, they would solve all of the MU's problems effortlessly. they wouldn't be used on a crossover like this as anything else but a deux ex machina
>>81340868
No, he doesnt, he wons most of the fights, and batman has access to superman. He is his best friend and gives him full access to all kryptonian tech, train with him, he can study all of luthor's and other enemies weapon. Superman losing to Batman is a matter of glory for batman not of shame for superman.
>>81332971
Avengers never keeps the upper tier people on it for long.
Quasar
Sentry
Silver Surfer
Firelord
Photon
Sersi
Dr Strange
Namor
and majority of the time Hulk
Avengers seem to be more on the same level as the late 80's JLA/JLI
The one that had Fire, Ice, Guy, Blue Beetle, Booster, J'onn etc. They had 3 or so really heavy hitters and a lot of mid to low powered people on it. Avengers seems to follow this same plan instead of packing all the most powerful people into a single team of anti cosmic might like the "Big 7" teams.
>>81340890
>We haven't seen Hulk become remotely close to dying.
And the avengers havent fought anything remotly to threatening.
>>81340396
Are you female American red skull?
>>81332971
The Annihilators might be the closest thing to the JLA.
>JLA have a godlike alien, space cop, deity, leader of an empire, a supreadvanced cyborg
>Annihilators have a godlike alien, alien deity, leader of a space empire, a space cop, superadvanced cyborg, and a defender of the universe.
After that the Defenders are close two with the top tier bricks and a few street levelers in there for the hell of it.
Then maybe Shi'Ar Imperial Guard.
>>81341082
they have they always lose until the deus ex machina arrives
even starbrand fucked them up 10 minutes after getting his powers (and this team had thor+hulk)
nearly every time a big threat is defeated, it comes from some big outside helper
the point of the avengers is not to be "the strongest team in the MU", but to provide common platform for heroes to help and protect people, mostly New York.
>>81340355
>Implying Hulk doesn't possess a Rage Force that rewrites the laws of physics and biology depending on his rage.
>>81339624
Nope, a big part is that one has to be a pious warrior that follows the old "warrior's code of honor." Superman is not willing to kill, or do what it takes to gain voctory, or follow the whims of his king. And he is usually pretty damn disrespectful of the gods.
Odin would not like him.
Wonder Woman however usually does pass and is worthy.
>>81340890
He fought Abomination who was pretty week and slow, then the whale, then loki, and then the paper robots.
Nothing there was comparable to zod.
>>81341450
>or follow the whims of his king. And he is usually pretty damn disrespectful of the gods.
>
>Odin would not like him.
that doesnt matter anymore
Odin fucking hates current Thor (the cancer woman, who is also an adulterer and basically a terrible superhero) and she is still considered worthy.
>>81341508
When angriest, he was evenly matched with the sentry, whom hulk is too dumb to mindfuck
My main problem with vs threads is that each side always assumes that each team has been given a full dossier on their opponents and weeks of study. In a pure random encounter like in Marvel's proxy battle or whatever, the result would probably be very similar. Even for a bit, the JLA starts to wreck ass because they're OP as fuck, and then Steven Strange shows up and annihilates the JLA.
>>81340510
The MCU Avengers absolutely could not do shit about Quicksilver. And he was an ordinary squishy but speedy guy.
DCEU have three people that are faster than him and stronger than Thor or Hulk at the same time.
MCU is in every way fucked.
>>81340800
Weirdly Superman survived something we are not sure Hulk can survive.
But Superman died to something Hulk could survive.
>>81340880
Magic in Marvel is just technology. It does not run on the "works against anyone that does not have specific magic defense" because it's tech. Magic fire in Marvel is just plain old fire.
Therefore it is not going to harm superman.
>>81341441
He doesnt and he doesnt have the feats to compare to superboy prime, a character that is scared of the flashes.
>>81341362
Yeah, people forget that the Avengers were never the leading Superhero group until pretty recently.
In the 60's and early 70's it was the FF, then the Xmen during the 80's and 90's. Then post 911 >>81341362
everything started to change, especially thanks to the ultimates and later the movies. I loved the brusiek era but a lot of people forgets that while it sold good, the team was still leass important than the X-men.
>>81341783
Because it all depends on the story.
In the MU, Jean survived being thrown into the sun, then died to a heart attack; all in the same story arc. (By morrison btw)
>>81341620
Are you confusing the MCUwith the comics?
>>81341450
>I never read anything Thor
>I'm a fucking casual that only saw the movie and then thinks my wikipedia knowledge trumps actual fans
>>81341518
Yea that is a huuuuuge aspect of what pissed fans off in that story. Mjolnir always obeyed Odin in the past. He never needed special permission to lift it ever and he could make copies and hand them out like candy if he wanted.
The unworthy story makes no damn sense for anyone that read anything Thor in the last 20-50 years.
>>81334753
Agree with everything but the Scarlet Witch part.
Because of Uncanny Avengers, mostly.
Depends on which Avengers. New Avengers would literally annihiliate Justice League's pussy.
>>81338311
Only because Odin himself willed it. He is not worthy
>>81341271
I sort of consider the Avengers a lot like the pre Flashpoint JSA
A group of old legends and important figures in their world. And a decent mix of heavy hitters, mid tier powers and nonpowered street levelers. Includes a few faces from the WWII era and classic heroes who have been at it for decades.
They would kill everyone except Hulk and maybe Thor
>>81341830
No, it really does just depend on the story.
Don't try to pretend comics are anything like consistent, you just end up looking like a manchild who can't distinguish when things have real-life reasons or fictional reasons and you are almost certainly not that.
>>81341698
Scarlet Witch and Vision weren't on the side of the avengers when they were fighting QS and Hulk was so dangerous they didn't even want him out while SW was rolling around
>fight Vision
>nothing can touch him
nice fight
>>81341841
>Yeah, people forget that the Avengers were never the leading Superhero group until pretty recently.
I feel like they were always intended to be the primary group of Marvel. Consisting of the big name solo book heroes like Iron Man, Cap, and Thor with other guys like Spiderman and Black Panther on occasion. But other teams were still more mainstream popular with readers so FF and X-Men got higher billing.
They were never meant to be the most powerful team around. But having guys like Thor, Captain Marvel and Quasar around a lot sort of placed them there.
>>81335137
Don't forget; With Wonder Woman, if she removes her bracers, she actually becomes more powerful. She's currently on level with Supes, when it comes to strength/power, plus she is also the God of War.. So any conflict would fuel her.
She's absolutely broken. WW/Supes/Flash are just too damn broken for Marvel to even stand a chance.
>>81341783
>But Superman died to something Hulk could survive.
We don't really know that. But more important Superman was weak due the kryptonite.
>>81341919
Thank you for the informative response that helped the conversation
>>81331787
>company wars
Yes, we all know the League would stomp the Avengers comfortably. Busiek's JLA/Avengers had to completely overpower Scarlet Witch (by saying that there's extra chaos/magick in the DCU or something) to prevent the JLA from wrecking them.
>>81342259
Still no amount of impaling Hulk will kill him.
Flash incapacitates all of them before the Avengers or other Justice Leaguers know there's even a fight
>>81342397
Batman already had contingency plans ready for extra dimensional superheroes that for some reason only want to fight other heroes and not villains. Fight is over before Flash gets a chance to incapacitate them.
Avengers are promptly phantom zoned and never thought of again.
>>81340433
Hulk might have a chance against Barry.
Wally turns him into a statue.
>>81342397
But who would win? Avengers+Luthor vs JL+Doom?
![why-batman-is-overrated-haha-oh-good-old-sun-624435[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BraGCeM.jpg "why-batman-is-overrated-haha-oh-good-old-sun-624435[1].jpg")
>>81342496
>Batman already had contingency plans ready
shut the fuck up faggot
>>81342626
Kek, the JLA side could beat on their own the avengers+luthor.
With Doom? Half of them can stay home
Let's ask the important questions here
Which member of JLA would She-Hulk fuck?
>>81342529
How do you figure this exactly? How is the hulk going to see the flash, let alone get a hit in on him. Have we ever seen hulk get hit by thousands of infinite mass punches in a single second?
>>81331787
Justice League over all, with Avengers winning some fights
but I wouldnt want the Avengers to win, I dont want my superheroes to be stupidly OP and dumb
>>81342821
The real question would be how many and which of them would She Hunk take simultaneously and in which orifice
>>81342821
Robin
>>81342857
>Have we ever seen hulk get hit by thousands of infinite mass punches in a single second?
have we seen that happen to Deathstroke?
>>81342821
Batman but he'd say no because she isn't a cat or crazy
Clark but she couldn't bring herself to defile something so pure
And then there's wondy but it back fires because she thought she would be the dom but you can't dom the OG dom and it ends up with jen getting a train ran on her by amazons with strap on's
>>81343058
Aside from Zatanna; Has Bruce actually liked a girl that isnt crazy, evil or violent?
>>81343214
didn't he fug one of his teen batgirls at one point?
>>81343256
Only babs in the cartoon. Bruce thought Cass wasnt for sexual
>>81342857
Barry never infinite mass punched anyone, dude.
All of the serious broken Flash shit is Wally.
>>81343380
And bart. But Barry is the Fastest Marvel character too.
