Now that the dust has settled and we all agree that it was actually pretty good, do you think WB will fuck everything up with all this quip reshoots?
>>81307298
Everyone who claims this was good is either lying to themselves or to others.
SS was already funny but I trust the team.
>>81307345
Why do drones expect others to have the same mentality? I and MANY others enjoyed BvS and will continue supporting DC.
>>81307298
Did anyone notice, that just before Wonder Woman played the first meta human video file, there came blaring the heroic music for like 5 more more seconds. Nothing had happened yet. Al we were looking at was some random security footage, but the music was LOUD AND EPIC FOR NO REASON.
>>81307345
As a huge fan of Batman and as someone who thinks Superman is classically one of the most boring characters ever, I genuinely enjoyed the movie.
>>81307298
>we all agree that it was actually pretty good
>>81307379
Without trailers, this was the first sign that she is WW and that is her theme.
>>81307298
>Now that the dust has settled and we all agree that it was actually pretty good
>>81307345
/co/ is not a single entity. I unironically loved the movie.
>>81307373
You can enjoy it all you like. But it's a bad movie. There's just enough punching and loud sounds to overload the senses, and make you overlook how dumb it is.
>>81307384
>As a huge fan of Batman and as someone who thinks Superman is classically one of the most boring characters ever
BIG surprise
>>81307298
>Now that the dust has settled
Dude, I agree with you that the movie was actually pretty great, but I still wish you could fuck off and die just for posting this.
>>81307461
>But it's a bad movie.
nah
>>81307298
No. Its just....OKAY. Its poorly edited and crammed with unnecessary shit but in hindsight Id rather watch it over the Iron Man sequels or both Thors. Theres a good movie in here but the execution is a misfire. Batman single handedly saves it from being utter shit
>>81307468
It's an extremely common opinion. For good reason. Superman belongs in the Sunday comic strips.
>>81307413
Not THAT part. Even though that was a bit much too.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S176AKQhcCk
GOAT
>>81307520
The heroic music was because the entirety of the next 10 years worth of films were being set up in that video file montage.
>>81307511
Superman is boring to people who think winning fights with fists means everything.
>>81307298
>>81307373
>>81307384
>>81307438
Zack, your movie is shit, mediocre at best. There's no need to shill on an anonymous image board
>>81307511
>It's an extremely common opinion.
Among Batfags, yes.
>>81307562
>>81307566
Supergirl is a likeable and interesting character. Superman has virtually NO personality. He quietly does the right thing 100% of the time and does it with all American gumption. But there's nothing below the surface.
>>81307560
You don't get it. I'm highlighting the bad editing. There was epic music blaring before we got to see any action. The music should have came in just as the Flash actually did something. Not like 5-10 seconds prior. It was odd how the music came in deafening, when were just watching a cursor click on a file of security footage.
>>81307298
>and we all agree that it was actually pretty good,
Speak for yourself, I found that bullshit movie dreadful and unbereable, worst theater experience since The Spirit.
>>81307373
>Why do drones expect others to have the same mentality?
And yet you started the thread saying that "we" all agree BvS was good.
>>81307644
>He quietly does the right thing 100% of the time
He tries, anyway.
There's nothing boring about a good person trying to do good. And witnessing the trials he must endure.
This movie is pretty evenly split down the middle.
I wonder what it would be like to be negative for the sake of being negative. I'm glad I have the ability to recognize this flawed film is flawed and love it completely for what it is.
>>81307298
>actually pretty good
>>81307345
Nah, it's just shitposters from /tv/
>>81307793
The sad thing is there are parts to like about this film, its just not worth praise
>>81307784
>I wonder what it would be like to be negative for the sake of being negative
It's like being positive for the the sake of being positive.
>>81307793
Nope. I'm a /co/ veteran and I loved it.
The reason people pretend to like this film is because 1. They think they're smart by being contrarian and 2. They feel a sense of community with their fellow 4chan loser "friends" who call it capekino. Idiots in numbers. Etc.
The rest are just trying to bait people.
>>81307384
I hate people like you.
>>81307868
And one makes you happy. Guess which one makes fucking sense.
>>81307373
>>81307373
I support DC. I do not support WB.
>>81307899
Nope. I genuinely loved it.
>>81307511
The mark of a terrible human being.
>>81307644
Supergirl? Seriously? She's completely different in every incarnation. She has no defined personality at all.
Aside from some very wonky and jarring video editing choices, I was surprised by how much liked the movie.
>>81307909
>>81307991
Do you know why there's so much Jesus imagery in these movies? It's because of people like you who even though it's just a character in a book, you genuinely get upset when people don't care about him or his boring adventures of overpoweredness and no depth. You put him on such a Jesus level pedestal, that you can't imagine him being anything other than the one dimensional character written for children in the 1930s.
>>81307913
If liking something shitty for the sake of being positive makes you happy, you are simply lying to yourself. A fake happiness.
I'd rather call things as they are, and only like things that I find enjoyable. Of which BvS sadly (because I wanted to like the damned film) is not one.
>yfw you're a marveldrone and don't even have to shitpost
>dc fans are ruining their own cinematic universe
haha oh nooo, you guys get Snyder for more movies
we lost!
>>81307298
>Now that the dust has settled
Please die.
And no, it was a shit movie.
>>81307644
People can't relate to real Superman because he is a selfless, kind person who wants to help others. He has quite a personality, it's just the fact that he's not "damaged" that makes plebs avoid him.
>>81307298
Do you think WB would be doing reshoots if they had ANY faith in
BvS shooting past a billion dollars?
Seriously guys, I loves me some DC but this one was just a dog.
It's not the end of the world.
No amount of pouting is going to change that.
I am a Superman fan, through and through. I don't give a fuck about Marvel and their movies.
And I found BvS an abject, joyless piece of shit.
>>81308087
this
marvel fans seemingly want better depictions of DC characters than DC fans do for some reason
>>81308121
The idea of a good person just trying to do what's right is something I can relate to.
The idea of Batman, someone who commits to living his life in misery to beat up villains is not relatable.
But no one cares if they get Batman's personality right anyway as long as he's "badass". That's the type of person who likes this movie.
>>81307875comic movie
>>81308291
the movie may be of a comic
this thread is of a /tv/ meme
>>81307298
I hope they'll relax a bit now that the movie is raking in money and let the next movies do their thing.
>>81308315
It would be a TV meme if someone said kino
>>81308377
JUST
>>81307298
>we all agree that it was actually pretty good
>>81307298
If you are over 21 with a college educatiom you probably enjoyed this movie.
If not you dont matter.
>>81307510
>Batman single handedly saves it from being utter shit
You spelt Luthor wrong.
>>81307298
>Now that the dust has settled and we all agree that it was actually pretty good
How much did you get paid to make this post? I'm genuinely curious.
>>81307650
>The music was off by 5 seconds
>Into the trash
Off to /tv/ please
>>81308477
But Luthor was easily the worst part
>>8130847
Zach please. You have the intellectual capability of a 16 year old hot topic faggot. Stop pretending you're high art or deep.
>>81308473
I'm 25 with an associate degree. I enjoyed it. Do I count?
>>81308514
>Into the trash
No one said that, you delusional fuck. You're hearing things. Off to /x/ with you. Better yet, take your strawman to /pol/.
>>81308562
Yes. Associate is college level.
>>81308537
He was easily my favourite. Dude pulled every string and manipulated everyone but everyone is caught up in his facade.
If you didn't like Luthor's portrayal you literally got rused by the sleight of hand and missed half the movie.
>>81308208
too bad they don't want accurate depictions of Marvel characters
>>81307298
>people discuss about so much useless shit
>people fail to realise that literally EVERY flaw from this movie comes from the bad pacing
I LOVE Man of Steel but I'm the first one to say that the editing of the first half was off by a mile. Had the pacing been right, this would've been legitimately a 9/10
I still like the movie and even though I certainly get the hate this movie gets, it's way off the charts
This movie was not good. DCbros, you deserve better. Don't cling desperately to scraps.
>>81307947
Why can't people grasp this logic?
>>81308653
Luthor wasnt intimating in the slightest. The senator was scared after the piss tea and I was left there thinking WHY? Because that reaction wasnt earned. Not only that, but Lex DING DING DING DING Luthor is just laughable in every way. Zero presence
>>81308063
>1930s
Why do retards bring up age like it degrades quality? A shit ton of amazing things are literally ancient.
Never mind that half of DC's roster was conceived during the 30s-50s.
>>81308768
everyone deserves better
DC fags deserve a nicely paced movie that doesn't try to appeal to masses
Marvelfags deserve a movie that doesn't treat its viewers like goddamn apes and that appeals less to the masses
snyder was on the right path but somewhere down the line, some asshole exec probably thought they should go the company route and change up the movie
>>81308909
Because Supermanfags are OBSESSED with 1938 classic no character Superman.
>>81308804
>The senator was scared after the piss tea and I was left there thinking WHY?
Piss in a jar and call it Grandma's peach tea, plan an assassination and call it a deterrence.
The piss in the jar directly references an assassination, when she realizes Luthor is no longer there it begins to dawn on her that something isn't right, hence her fear.
>DING DING DING DING
We learn that the death of superman heralds the arrival of Darkseid. Since supes died, the bell has been rung. It leads into JL.
>>81308970
>Piss in a jar and call it Grandma's peach tea, plan an assassination and call it a deterrence.
is the second part the actual line she uses? if yes, the scene was even better than I thought. she fucking saw it coming, shit
>>81309024
Yes, knowing full well Lex's planned weapon was an assassination attempt on Supes rather than just a deterrent.
>>81308970
Does she even have a reason to believe Luthor is a murderer like that?
>>81309024
Yeah. That's why it slowly dawns on her in the senate house, then she sees Luthor is gone and it's all too late.
Of course, /co/ is like PISS JUGS PISS JUGS. But it was a pretty sweet allegory.
>>81308653
If you actually like Eisenberg's Joker you're a fucking retard.
>>81309106
It's a riff on the fact that the nuclear deterrent will be the death of us all.
It really does seem so pretentious when you type it out like this.
>>81309056
fuuuuuck, I totally missed it
totally looking forward to the ultimate cut. I think this will be the rare occasion that I will like a movie more after viewing it twice since I know the editing is strange
>>81309106
"But superman is the only Krypton flying around"
Ergo, if you want this rock, you can only want to use it on superman. She connected the dots.
>>81308970
No no I understand what happened in both cases, its just that Jesse's performance doesnt earn it
>>81309171
Don't be upset that you couldn't follow the movie.
Go somewhere else and chant piss jugs.
>>81307511
Since you have not, maybe try picking up a superman comic.
>>81309165
>Of course, /co/ is like PISS JUGS PISS JUGS
no matter how a scene is made, autists will always have something to complain about. that's today's society, it only consists of constant bitching and nobody wants to see the good in something
fuck all those faggots for hating on snyder, if I lived on this world in this time and had supes' powers, I'd definitely go all Injustice on people's asses
>>81307298
It certainly not good but it's not bad as some critics and people claimed either. And, the reshoot for quip is fucking stupid if they really do it, I'd say they're done and better prepare to scrap the DCEU, they're too much of a pussy.
>>81309253
I have Superman Earth One. It'll be my first Supes comic. I hope this pleases you.
>>81309192
>pretentious
This entire movie summed-up in a single word. God fucking dammit I thought I was done being mad.
>>81309219
She is fearful because she realizes she is about to die.
She isn't thinking, well the guy who is about to assassinate me is a jubilant character.
>>81309196
Another one to think on is Lex's motivations. Everyone says he has one. But it's actually a great play on a theological argument.
Superman isn't a god, he can't be all powerful and all good. So which category is he lacking in? If he isn't all good, we have the batman plan, that is, "1% chance he is our enemy we have to take as absolute certainty".
Else, we have that he can't be all powerful, which plan B would show up (Doomsday). This is classic Lex, if superman isn't all powerful, then he will let us down one day and if humanity relies on him he will fail us.
>>81309279
I can see it working
>make new scenes with quips
>make these scenes filler scenes
>still connect them to the overall arc
too bad SOME asshole in the company is a retarded dipshit who doesn't understand that proper pacing is necessary. seriously, they are a multi million dollar company. how is there nobody who spots that shit after the editing process is finished?
>>81309308
But that shit always sounds fucking ridiculous when you have to explain it. The movie really isn't that bad. Snyder is a hack director and it wasn't edited well and Lex took the time to create names and symbols for the JL characters but other than that, it's a pretty good blockbuster.
>do reshoots on BvS to force in JL cameos
>do reshoots on SS to force more quips
People act like DC movies are so much different than Marvel but they keep desperately trying to copy them
>>81307298
>we all agree that it was actually pretty good
>>81309439
How so
>>81309464
>gif
>>81309439
Yeah, and that's the problem WB was extremely lack of confident and this 'lack of confident' thing is the root of all failure.
>>81309244
I'm upset that I bothered to force myself to stay awake to follow it.
Scenes jerking suddenly from one to the other like a wooden roller coaster helped more than the explosions.university
>>81309439
>he doesnt want SS to be more funny
the more funnier it gets the better it will be
>>81309267
>fuck all those faggots for hating on snyder
>if I lived on this world in this time and had supes' powers, I'd definitely go all Injustice on people's asses
Someone screencap this holy fuck. The only type of person I actually see liking this shit.
>>81308932
No it was entirely his fault. He doesn't understand the characters. it had nothing to do with editing it had everything to do with snyder being absolute shit at directing.
>>81309622
If they originally plan it to be funny then maybe but reshoot to make it more funny is a terrible idea.
>>81309686
>2016
>people rather go online than going out with socialising outdoors
>people rather jump to conclusions than making their own educated opinions
>people rather go to war than to fight the actual problems that are bestowed upon them by some literal dumbfucks
>people rather hate without knowing why instead of thinking critically
>people rather spend their time hating on things they don't like instead of not giving a fuck
you tell me what you would do if it was the world against you, retard
>>81309893
Sounds like a lot of projecting there pal
>>81307644
Supergirl is rule 63 Superman. She even has her own Lois, Lex, and Perry. Are you high?
>>81310051
>not responding to the question
nice way to take part in a discussion
>>81310067
But her show is good. Explain that Buddhist.
>>81310086
>people rather jump to conclusions than making their own educated opinions
>people rather go to war than to fight the actual problems that are bestowed upon them by some literal dumbfucks
>people rather hate without knowing why instead of thinking critically
>people rather spend their time hating on things they don't like instead of not giving a fuck
This was all said by a guy who said if he could he'd murder everyone for not liking a movie.
The lack of self awareness is astounding, and so is the fact that he's placing his own flaws on the rest of the world and criticizing them for it.
>hurr if you don't like this your dumb and should die
>BTW FUCK EVERYONE ELSE FOR RUSHING TO CONCLUSIONS AND FIGHTING STUPID BATTLES
>>81310228
>This was all said by a guy who said if he could he'd murder everyone for not liking a movie.
wait what? can you even read? I mean /co/ only reads comics but jesus fuck..... I never said that shit you retard. you can't even understand simple sentences, can you?
>>81310407
>/co/
>reading comics
Good one.
>>81308653
>Dude pulled every string and manipulated everyone but everyone is caught up in his facade.
His whole plan fell apart because Superman said his mom's name.
>>81307373
>will continue supporting DC.
Found the shill.
>>81308754
The current ones are likeable.
>>81309893
I definitely wouldn't be autistic enough to actually admit I'd love to kill anyone who didn't like a fucking movie.
>>81310563
>>81310407
not the anon but obvious samefag
it's pretty obvious that the guy was talking about superman in BvS
>>81310645
meant to quote >>81310563 and >>81310228
>>81310488
>His plan fell apart
He killed superman anon. He succeeded.
His plan A, Batman, failed because Superman was able to show his humanity to Batman.
>>81310407
>>81310645
>if I lived on this world in this time and had supes' powers, I'd definitely go all Injustice on people's asses
What did he mean by this?
>>81309472
>try to catch up to Marvel in the connected movie universe
>try to force as much as they can into as little movies as possible
>people don't want their cape movies to be grimdark for the sake of grimdark
>Just add quips! Marvel movies are well received entirely because of quips!
My fav thing is these movies prove that people either do not know or do not care about superman as a character. That they will eat up whatever 'guy who happens to have supermans' powers Snyder serves up.
I honestly wish they had made tony stark full of witticisms and quirky jokey dialogue like RDJ as tony stark. Just lighthearted about everything so they could go 'wahhhhhhh they ruined my batman that isn't batman' and i could go 'what do you mean he has gadgets and cars and he punches bad guys and dresses in a black cape. He even has dead parents and at one point says he likes justice...how is that not batman?'
i'd like to add to the conversation that part of the reason lex is able to manipulate people on a logical and emotional level is that they're caught up within their own personal struggles to think outside of themselves
finch sees lex for what he is, a manipulative person who wants power ie the scene their scene together in the study
lex is so aware of bruce's and clark's tunnelvision he finds it amusing ie the tower scene
bruce so focused on superman and clark so focused on trying to be a symbol
the central tension of the movie is resolved through love
>>81310702
Lois killed Superman.
If she didn't throw the spear away Wonder Woman could have gotten it instead of Superman having to save her and be to weak to get the spear to Wonder Woman. Lois is the true antagonist of this movie.
Also Superman didn't even stay dead so it doesn't even matter.
>>81310702
He ended up in prison and superman is going to rise from the grave with batman (the dude lex tried to turn against him) as his ally.
he succeeded only in uniting all the super heroes he was trying to control.
Just because he thinks superman is dead for good doesn't mean he succeeded. it just means he got fooled into thinking he succeeded.
>>81310563
please kill yourself. you obviously can't read
>>81310786
What conversation? Where did with this sudden burst of autism come from?
...Is this new pasta?
>>81310645
Not any anon but me, but that's still pretty fucking cringey.
>>81310786
>lex is so aware of bruce's and clark's tunnelvision he finds it amusing ie the tower scene
that doesn't make lex's characterization good though.
that just makes superman and batmans characterizations bad.
Lex's entire plan hinged on the stupidity of two characters who aren't supposed to be stupid.
>>81310090
Because her show isn't directed by Zach the Hack.
This DC movieverse is so mindbendingly awful that I actually have trouble putting into words the depth of it's numerous fuck ups.
Pa Kent does literally the exact opposite of everything we've known him to be. He does nothing to help instill a sense of responsibility and good in his son and will literally die so his son continues to hide like a fucking puss instead of actually helping people. Y'know, that thing Pa Kent was supposed to teach him was really important and shit? Then he gets fathercuck'd by Jor-El who Clark ends up treating like a "real" father.
Clark acts absolutely nothing like we know Clark to act like. He seems like this weirdo fucking alien person instead of a farm boy from Kansas. Look, basically the secret identity of Superman at his core is basically the opposite of Batman: Clark Kent is a person who PRETENDS to be Superman sometimes. Batman is a person who PRETENDS to be Bruce Wayne sometimes. But in these movies, Clark is all "oh on MY planet this means hope" and shit, and flies around he like isn't just some country goober with powers. And then there's all this disgustingly weird Jesus symbolism for some reason? Clark never thought he was better than anyone. He just had powers that he could help people with. That was all. He has acknowledged many-a-time the bravery of those without power, and that it's really all too easy for him in comparison to be a hero since he can barely get hurt. Does no one remember Dan Turpin?
This is honestly the hardest Batman has ever been raped in live action cinematic form. BATMAN FUCKING KILLS PEOPLE IN THIS MOVIE. DUDE, NOT KILLING IS LITERALLY ONE OF LIKE TWO RULES HE HAS. HOW IS THAT HARD TO FUCK UP? JUST MAKE A BATMAN WHO IS GROWLING AND DOES DETECTIVE SHIT AND DOESN'T KILL ANYONE. WHAT THE FUCK, DC. COME ON.
I cannot watch any more of this schlock, even to make fun of it. I don't want to know how they'll ruin Flash. He'll probably be super self serious and cut a guys arm off or something.
>>81310973
Every major character in this movie is fucking retarded except Alfred and Wonder Woman.
And even her actions are questionable.
>>81307298
Firstly, the dust hasn't settled.
Secondly, not everyone agrees it was pretty good.
Thirdly, you're never going to get "everyone" to agree that it was even years from now. That's not how subjectivity works and all entertainment is subjective.
But other then that, carry on.
It's not like anything you could say or do would ever possibly change someone's opinion on the film, especially over the Internet, so ultimately the only person's time you're choosing to waste here is your own.
>>81311043
Alfred was so fucking good in this and so underutilized.
>>81311363
If by that you mean they failed to properly interpret even a fraction of the source material and thus failed as a movie, then yeah, sure, I guess so.
>>81307345
>no one can have that opinion
SPEAR AND MAGIC HELMET
Alright, a question. I haven't seen it and most likely won't for a variety of reasons.
But why does Batman get these prophetic dreams? Why does he get a dream within a dream, with Flash time travelling back INTO his dream?
Is there any explanation for this?
>>81307298
>Now that the dust has settled and we all agree that it was actually pretty good
>>81307353
Overacting.
>>81308229
>That's the type of person who likes this movie.
The whole thing screamed of autists sitting on their hands and bouncing up and down as soon as they heard the title. That's the only people to whom that's a "big event".
>>81307298
>we all agree this was pretty good
Jesus Christ, no.
>>81313326
>Why does he get a dream within a dream, with Flash time travelling back INTO his dream?
I'm gonna guess it's foreshadowing Flash saving the day in Infinite Crisis by running faster than ever before, well into plaid speed, and he starts popping through time as visions, or something like it, to people, en route to dying and saving the day.
>>81313988
That's obvious, but I'm asking why is Batman having these dreams. Is there a cause, or is he just randomly getting prophetic dreams, just because the plot demands it?
Is he a metahuman now, is he affected by some artifact, or are his fever dreams accurate out of pure coincidence?
Is there an explanation for why he gets the dreams, is what I wanna know.
>>81313326
I don't think it's a dream. I believe it to be a repressed memory from a future that did happen. Where Lois died and Superman went under the influence of Darkseid and now because of speed force fuckery that memory is bleeding into the present, but Bruce interprets it as a nightmare.
>>81314108
He ate his twin brother in the womb.
>>81314118
I mean if that's the explanation, and the dream is just sort of a side effect of the Flash trying to contact him, then ok, but then from what I've seen and read, the movie conveys the idea like fucking shit.
>>81314174
That explains everything
>>81307298
>Now that the dust has settled
>>>/s4s/
Here's how we fix it. We have to Days of Future Past it.
Justice League is a set up for doomsday who ressurects Superman as a crony and it follows Injustice. Batman Elseworlds the fun correct Justice League to take him down. They succeed and go back to their world which is what Justice League 2 follows. Problem solved.
>>81314271
It's a Snyder movie. Half the fun is trying to make it sound smarter than it actually is.
>>81314318
They send Flash back in time to tell Pa Kent:
>DON'T TELL HIM TO DROWN CHILDREN YOU DUMB FUCK
>ALSO CAREFUL WITH THE HORSES
All is well with the world afterwards.
>>81314174
>He ate his twin brother in the womb.
Eh, what the hell. I'll go along with this.
>>81307438
A lot of us did.
>>81307298
I thought it was a red-hot shitpile of a film.
>Heroes aren't heroic, act in defiance of decades of established character
>Main villain also goes against his previous characterizations, though there are arguments that it's a different guy, so ??
>Main villain adds little to the plot, his plan doesn't make any sort of sense
>Wonder Woman's limited side plot made no sense, existed to set up the rest of the characters.
>Heroic sacrifice was dumb as hell
You can't throw a rock without hitting a plot hole. Rumor has it there's 30 minutes of cut footage, and apparently it's all the good bits.
>>81310973
that's not the point
what we get through the movie is a sublimation of batman's despair
batman himself begins to hope
superman wants to be a symbol of hope
superman by the end fully becomes one
this plays on what is the normal association of the characters. batman/fear superman/hope batman overcomes his fear and superman overcomes his doubt
>>81307298
>we all agree that it was actually pretty good
gr8 b8 m8
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