Why doesn't Superman include the crime-infested Gotham City in his patrols if it's just a stone throw away?
Aren't there more people crying for help there than in Metropolis?
>>81248443
metropolis is in new york
gotham is in jersey
if youre superman you have to ask yourself, is jersey worth it?
the answer is no
>bigville
>>81248443
>Silver_Age_metropis-Gotham.jpg
>Silver Age
How true is that these days?
Anyway, if it's still true, Superman probably doesn't do it because Batman will whine like a little bitch muttering "muh city" between sobs.
>>81248443
>Silver_Age_Metropolis-Gotham.jpg
Fool, Silver Age was mid-50's to 1960's so it was sometimes like Adam West Batman over there as opposed to some Post-Miller-esque hellhole.
>>81248503
What? No.
Gotham is in Jersey
Metropolis is in Delaware
seriously, just look at the map.
>>81248687
It really was in the comics.
One day someone will do a story taking place in the Silver Age and use the Batman '66 version of Bane taking over Bigville. With appearance by Silver Age-style Bill Wilson.
>>81248443
How come Smallville, Kansas is just down the street from Gotham City?
>>81248443
>>81248503
>>81249208
And this map was from 1978, which set Metropolis in Delaware and Gotham City in New Jersey.
>>81249594
It wasn't in Kansas until the Byrne reboot.
Also, Superman's Fortress used to be outside of Metropolis during the 40's. I think it was the 50's or 60's when they moved it to the Arctic.
>>81249705
Well I'll be damned, the more you know, I guess.
I always figured Metropolis was somewhere in the midwest for some reason, it's weird that it's just a stone toss away from the crime ridden, death trap hellhole that is Gotham.
Is Superman just... Cool with everything that's happening in the other side of the river? Why doesn't he throw the Joker in the Phantom Zone?
>>81248443
>>81249867
It's mostly because Batman has essentially claimed his stake in Gotham, and won't let any other supers help out around there, seeing himself as some sort of sole savior to the city
Although he has accepted help from others if there's an "entire world is in danger" thing going on, or if there's an exceptionally powerful foe in Gotham, but usually he'll use all his resources (all the various bird boys, Barbara, Commissioner Gordon) first before he does that
>>81249867
>Is Superman just... Cool with everything that's happening in the other side of the river?
It's the Silver Age, Gotham's a lot more benign, generally speaking.
Besides, it's not like he doesn't team up with Batman all the damn time.
>>81250118
>Hello, Bruce? Yes, it's Clark here. So, I couldn't help but overhear the anguished cries of pain of dozens of children coming from over there-- Oh, I see, the Joker escaped Arkham again and set fire to an orphanage, but you already got him and are on your way to put him back there. Listen, back in the Fortress there's a way to put him away for sure in a place he can't escape without necessarily killing him, what abou-- No? That's fine. But about that burning orphanage, need any help with that? You got your 12 years old son on it, got it... I mean, I could swing by in two seconds and solve everything with my superbreath but-- No Bruce, you don't need to get your suit of armor, I'll stay out of hair. All right, bye, call me if you need anyt-- *Click* Sigh...
>>81249867
Around the 70's, some comics and fanzines set Smallville in Maryland. But then there was an issue of LOSH that claimed Smallville was set in northeastern Pennsylvania or northern New Jersey. It got ignored later on.
But for most of the Bronze Age it wasn't too far from Metropolis, and arguably Gotham wasn't too terrible in the Bronze Age other than Joker and some other villains being murderous again.
Since Byrne set Smallville in Kansas in 1986, that's how it's been in all media from then on and everyone's gotten used to that idea.
shrug
>i live in gotham
As a resident of South Jersey, i can confirm. Crime is rampant due to Atlantic City going down the shitter.
>>81249635
>>81248443
FUCK.
I had absolutely no idea that Metropolis and Gotham City were supposed to be right next to each other. I always assumed they were on different sides of the country.
>>81253228
Was Atlantic City ever NOT in the shitter?
>>81256223
it was in early 2000, when the casinos started going under, when it began to fall into the shitter. from the mid 90s backward the city had a thriving economy. Watch the show boardwalk empire. That's when AC was in its prime.
>>81248443
Someone post Superman being too busy in gay city
>>81248443
>Smallville, Kansas
>right next to Metropolis
>>81250118
>It's mostly because Batman has essentially claimed his stake in Gotham, and won't let any other supers help out around there, seeing himself as some sort of sole savior to the city
They fuck up more offen than not.
Also, that's a fucking lie:
Green Lantern, Ragman, Simon Dark, Zatanna, Deadman, birds of prey, Creeper, and Jason Blood all are mostly Gothamites.
Batman has a problem with heroes that are not from Gotham fucking up his investigations. Not with other heroes.
Gotham isnt a place where you go and just beat the bad guy.
>>81249635
>tfw I live in Metropolis right now
Seems quiet outside, when's everything going to get destroyed
>>81256948
Here in Gotham we have a saying:
"if you want to suck cocks just go to metropolis"
Weakass faggot.
>>81256948
>>81256980
Guys, guys, let's just settle this over a cupa coffee and a hoagie, eh?
>>81256980
I can't help that the military stationed me in Delaware when apparently Superman will just do everything for us while we sit around twiddling our dicks
>>81257000
>Hoagie
It's called a fucking sandwich, hoagie is the most retarded word ever
>>81257027
chill man, hoagies are fine
>>81249705
>It wasn't in Kansas until the Byrne reboot.
>>81250919
>Since Byrne set Smallville in Kansas in 1986
>1986
No fucking way.
>>81256596
I'm pretty sureBruce Springsteenhad a song about it quite a bit earlier than the 2000's.
Why would anyone live in a shithole like Gotham city if Metropolis is stone throw away?
>>81257273
Gotham is where the big money is at
Where is Bludhaven?
>>81257273
straight up witchcraft
>>81257289
I thought Metropolis' economy was better?
>>81257345
they have a nice solid economy, but Gotham has a higher risk v reward.
>>81257273
Healthcare is Free in Gotham, is also mostly Catholic so they are of with suffering. Metropolis is filled with homosexuals and black people.
>>81257122
Well technically the Donner movies put Smallville somewhere in the Great Plains region back in the 70s, and Byrne settled on Kansas because Great Plains Smallville was the most recognisable image of Smallville (and because of the Wizard of Oz connection).
Batman is a whiny cunt
>>81257524
That's more like it.
Cheers.
>>81248443
>>81250512
kek
>>81256864
>Batman has a problem with heroes that are not from Gotham fucking up his investigations.
Yeah, I remember this one crossover where Spider-Man tracked Carnage to Gotham, and Bats was a real bitch nigga towards him in a "I CAN'T INVESTIGATE AND LOOK OUT FOR YOU AT THE SAME TIME!" way, though he later apologized, saying he was just on edge because of the Joker (and probably because his previous crossover was with the Punisher).
>>81250118
>>81256864
Non Gotham heroes just don't get it the way Gotham Heroes do. I don't have the page but during No Man's Land Superman showed up and tried to help and Batman told him to fuck off, but he convinced him to let him stay for one day.
Clark teamed up with some guy to get the power back on and they managed to do it. But he had to leave and go fight Mr. Freeze. While he was gone a bunch of citizens showed up to give the enginner offerings for restoring the power and thugs showed up to be his bodyguard.
Superman came back and got all "This isnt the way, this isn't right!" and flew off because that was the way it was now. He and Batman had a conversation about Gotham and hope and he left knowing that only Batman could handle the mess
>>81257744
Batman/Simpsons crossover when?
>>81248443
Batman threatened Superman, he would fuck him up if he will ever play in his sand-pit.
Natually, Superman is scared shitless.
>>81258134
What's Bats gonna do? Call up his parents to tell him off?
>>81248443
It's canon that some magic juju impedes Supermans powers in Gotham
>>81258189
So Supes knows he's useless if he isn't super?
>>81258189
1. Superman's x-vision doesnt work well in Gotham the whole city is made from fucking lead. He hates that.
2. Superman can't do shit in Hub, Blud or Gotham. Aside from Fighting Clayface he can't really help.
>>81258294
What, he can't even prevent some mugging in Gotham? Telescopic vision, flight, and super hearing would at least direct him to the right spot.
>>81258441
>What, he can't even prevent some mugging in Gotham?
I think he can help more in the latest tsunami in Japan, earthquake in Chile and Wildfire in Australia than in gotham.
>>81258480
Those disasters don't happen everyday. Is a purse snatcher not worth his time?
>>81259247
>Those disasters don't happen everyday. Is a purse snatcher not worth his time?
is not, and yes disasters happen every day.
>>81257883
Honestly, that's just a big load of bull to justify Batman having his own playground to set his stories in. Editorial knows pretty much any other Leaguer could get rid of all of Batman's rogues in a week and has to make characters who routinely fight gods and alien horrors from deep space be unable to handle de reality of a mugger.
>>81259681
>Editorial knows pretty much any other Leaguer could get rid of all of Batman's rogues in a week
The retardation fo that statement surprises me
>>81259726
You've got years of systematic batwankery in your brain, purge it out.
>>81258174
Thomas Wayne would kick the shit outta that pussy Jon Kent
>>81249385
>silver age Heath Ledger's Joker
>silver age parody of BvS
>Silver age Suicide Squad
>>81259794
You are a fucking idiot that thinks batman whole work is to punch people.
What about the two-part of Superman TAS where he had a cross over with Batman TAS? They showed that Bruce and Alfred had flown to Metropolis in a small jet, not drive across a river.
Also, Metropolis has been shown to be on the edge of an ocean with cliffs instead of sandy beaches. Does anyone know what Eastern states have that kind of geography? The Carolinas come to mind, but I don't know the area.
>>81259820
Thomas Wayne needs to be alive to do shit first
The young justice map was definitive for me.
>>81249385
Maybe Clark is just a meek dumbass who likes to imagine that his failures are just attempts to hide his secret identity.
Metropolis is New York, Gotham is Atlantic city.
>>81257303
In the 90s.
>>81257027
Classics are only $4.99 at hoagiefest every year my friend
For real, though. Clark is Clark, first, Superman, second. He's not busting purse snatchers and rescuing cats from trees because he's living his life - but, when disaster strikes, he dons his red and blue underoos to save the day as Superman.
Conversely, Bruce is Batman all the time whether he's wearing the spandex or not. He is full-time terrorizing the criminal underworld or actively investigating crime rings for later terrorization. That means he regularly beats up drug dealers and muggers.
They're very different heroes with very different MOs that deal with very different problems.
>>81256777
Maybe there's a Smallville in Kansas.
>>81263745
All of Kansas' villes are small.
>>81257273
They can't afford to live in Metropolis
>>81259832
Sometimes he kicks them too.
>>81248443
To my knowledge there are 2 reasons why Superman doesn't "patrol" Gotham.
1. Superman doesn't have the mental capacity to solve a lot of Batman's cases. Batman grew up in Gotham so he knows how people from Gotham think. He knows how the city can shape people and their personal values, usually for the worst. It takes a certain kind of person to doubt people and their intentions, to always be looking for their flaws, and to only suspect the worst from others. Superman isn't that person. Superman likes to believe there's some good in everyone and that most people have good intentions. He likes to focus on peoples best qualities and "gifts" as he does with his own. In fact its this kind of thinking that makes Superman who he is and why he is a symbol of hope who inspires people all over the world. Having to deal with Gotham serial killers would potentially emotionally burden Superman to the point that he'd become a less effective Superhero. He'd become angry and frustrated like Batman. Nobody wants an angry Superman.
2. The second reason is just genuine respect for Batman. There's kind of an unwritten rule that you don't fight crime in someone else's hometown. At least not without telling them ahead of time or unless the world is in danger. I've never seen a hometown superhero run into a visitor superhero without some kind of argument happening.
Personally I think Batman shouldn't patrol Metropolis and visa versa because you'd have to LEAVE your home town to do it. The people of your city depend on you when you're a superhero. Theres almost a brand loyalty. If people hear Batman's been in Metropolis for a week they'll start to wonder if he doesn't feel like Gotham is worth saving anymore. On top of that, if they lost a loved one to crime in that week, you know they'd just blame Batman for being out of town and BOOM new Supervillain.
