>all these reviews citing Gadot's weak performance
What does this mean for the WW movie? Will WB freak out like they did with Green Lantern?
I thought Gadot's Wonder Woman was received overwhelmingly positively, and held up as one of the movie's saving graces?
Source?
Or shitposting?
>>81001962
Only by SJW hambeasts at the premier and IGN.
>>81001974
Shitposting. Gal has been getting nothing but praise
>>81001878
Literally only one review shat on Gadot, most reviews are citing her as a highlight
>>81002023
Source?
Or shitposting?
>>81002019
So it doesn't count because muh boogeywomyn?
>>81002032
Eh, some are considering her a highlight, others just a bland character.
Anyway, she's clearly going to be carried by her co-stars in the movie.
>>81002032
>most reviews are citing her as a highlight
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!! how fucking bad WAS this fucking movie?!! Did they shit on the backstories? Did they make Alfred French? What the fuck did they do man?
>>81001878
>actually believing when they said the weakest actress in a glorified cameo role was the best part of the movie
You guys should've recognized the warning sights, her solo movie may be alright but she shouldn't have been in BvS in any form.
>>81002147
Did you ever consider that maybe you're wrong?
>>81001878
there is 0% chance this movie was as bad as Green Lantern. Green Lantern was a joke out of the gate.I remember a lot of people on /co/ defending it at the time though...
>>81001878
OMFG A CHANCE TO RECAST!!!!
Don't scrap the film :(
JUST RECAST
>>81002147
The general idea is that the movie takes itself wayyy to seriously and AGAIN plays with Jesus imagery (Batfleck is raised into the air by a flock of bats at some point, in a Jesus-like pose); and that the fights in the 3rd act are mostly gratuitous schlock with Snyder's trademark slowmo.
Basically a Man of Steel encore.
>>81002258
>Batfleck is raised into the air by a flock of bats
Please tell me you're joking.
>>81002208
She's a fucking twig, so no.
>>81002291
It's not Batfleck, it's his kid version in a dream sequence.
>>81002291
no. its a dream sequence tho (it has a handful of those)
>>81002208
>39% rating and dropping
No, the movie is shit. Saying Gadot stole the movie isn't saying much.
>>81002220
>there is 0% chance this movie was as bad as Green Lantern.
Honestly I'm not worried about this film.
Outside of RT scores I've only heard nothing but positive things so far.
>>81001878
>want to see Diana and Etta punching out Nazis
>her movie is set in WWI
JUST!
>>81002032
Other reviews written by people with names like Joshua Goldberg and Noah Rosenbaum
>>81002258
>movie took itself way too serious
Maybe the critics just don't superheroes seriously.
Ironic
>>81002390
How low can it go?
>>81002291
It's a dream sequence. Althoughsuperman does die and come back 3 days later
>>81002032
Most of the reviews that I read say the opposite. She has basically no role to play, and she's so bad hopefully they'll get a better actress for the WW movie.
>>81002471
>and she's so bad hopefully they'll get a better actress for the WW movie.
I hate to break it to you, but they've already finished filming the WW movie.
Justice League is like, a few weeks away from beginning filming.
>>81002464
>a dream sequence makes it OK
no, it's still retarded
>It's bad
>It's good
>It's really bad
>It's really good
>>81002471
Please tell me she gained 50lbs for the role? Muscle mass maybe? DID they CGI in some fucking muscles at least?
dead on arrival
Its gonna flop or get delayed
I mean its up against transformers
>>81001878
it will depends on just how well boxoffice goes
>>81002513
Dreams are meant to be absurd. How does synder get that but professional critics don't?
I think this will be the consensus
Sums up 99% of negative reviews
It was fucked from jumpstreet. Wonder woman is scheduled to be released the same days as Transformer 5!
It'll get destroyed just liked Alvin and the Chipmunks did when it came out against Star Wars: The Force Awakens
>>81002563
Because its not even absurd
He pushed the same Jesus analogies in MoS
He thinks he is being smart and deep
>>81002645
Last time I checked Synder didn't create the superman/jesus analogue.
>>81002597
So it boils down to
>Not muh marvel
>>81002710
He sure did his part in running it into the fucking ground though
>>81002752
I have no idea what you're talking about here.
>It's a Disney shill review episode
>>81002710
he didnt create it, or superman or the concept of superhero movies or superhero deconstruction
but he has tried to capture all of that, to various degrees of success
>>81001962
By SJWs.
She literally doesn't do a thing in the entire movie.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/
40%
0
%
>>81002734
If aint Marvel, it aint worth watching.
>>81002597
>buzzword
What ever happen to thinking critical?
>>81002258
>(Batfleck is raised into the air by a flock of bats at some point, in a Jesus-like pose)
Wait, is this a Snyder movie or a Schumacher movie? That's pretty lulzy
>>81002734
people have responded well to both the marvel movies' tone AND the dark nolan batman stuff
snyder made his choice long ago to with the nolan approach. the problem is he isnt a very competent filmmaker
>>81002597
Accurate as fuck.
Make mine Marvel.
>>81002258
>Batfleck is raised into the air by a flock of bats at some point, in a Jesus-like pose
BATGOD
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>>81002710
He did not, but he loves it and uses it with the subtlety of a fucking wrecking ball.
>>81002837
doesn't sheattempt to infiltrate lex's HQ for info and go on to kill doomsday after saving bats and supes neck?
>>81002849
>the hurr fun is buzzword durr maymay
>>81001962
she only has a few lines, she pulls off the action alright but she's still less charismatic than thor 2 chris hemsworth with her dialogue
>>81002563
>Dreams are meant to be absurd.
They're also meant to have a point to them, to convey some idea to the audience, abstract as it may be (See: The Sopranos) using dream sequences just to show weird shit is incompetent, self indulgent and a waste of screentime (See: sea of skulls in Man of Steel)
I showed someone a picture of Aquaman and they asked why he looked like Rob Zombie.
I showed someone a picture of that Ezra guy (their daughter loves the Flash) and they said he looked like a douchebag.
>>81002795
Go back to bed Snyder.
It's over pham... it's officially worse than MoS.
I was actually pinning for 60% on RT as a "realistic" goal... didn't think it'd be that far off down the trench.
>>81002837
>She literally doesn't do a thing in the entire movie
Which could still make her the highlight of the movie given the reviews its getting
>>81002464>come back 3 days later
... And I am going to see this movie on Easter.
BRAVO WB
>>81002092
well... yeah? Of course, why would it be otherwise?
>>81002849
>buzzword
Is everything a buzzword now ?
>>81002956
There's no consensus yet, though.
>>81002619
Welp. She's dead. I don't know how WB is going to manage.
>>81002933
Have you seen the film? You only know what the scene is through second hand accounts and you've already dismissed any significance it might actually have.
>>81002881
This. For all the defense force is trying to dismiss critics as just wanting marvel quips all day every day I gotta ask.
How does the critically acclaimed Nolan trilogy fit into your mindset? It was serious. It got dark. It was even kind of complex and deep.
Did it REALLY never occur to you guys that the problem was the director failing at the tone rather than the tone itself? I mean shit, that's the perfect out! You can have your serious movies still; just get a better director to do them!
>>81002956
>all those polls anons kept making getting people to guess the RT ranges
>vote 50-60 at worst
>it ends up even worse
Why do they keep hiring Snyder again?
>>81002933
How can we say that scene doesn't convey a message?
>>81002982
ITS POETRY.
>>81002936
Aquaman and Flash will be the best movies in the DCEU. Screencap this.
>>81002898
Oh good, another "Rey" situation. No, don;t make Finn the primary main character he only has a connection to the villains that Rey never could. Let's instead have this random Amazonia-I mean desert wanderer be the main character for no reason.
>>81003019
I have not, but I am familiar with Snyder's track record. I probably won't watch the movie until the yify rip comes out, anyway.
Thank you, based yiffy.
>>81002898
Is it true that theyused full cgi for her body to make it seem like she had muscle?
>>81003056
Aquaman will not happen after this
>>81003019
What's the significance of Lex going pee pee in Mercy's drink? Did he think it would be a cool joke because she's Chinese?
>>81002619
First Fox stupidly puts Xmen against Alice and now this.
They did not have hope for the WW movie, they're releasing it at the same time as Transformers 5
>>81003051
We already established it does convey a message, and it's the same as in The Man of Steel. And it's seriously getting old.
>>81003056
>James Wan directing Aquaman
DC pls, I can only get so erect.
>>81002898
No, in a roundabout wayBatman kills Doomsday. And Superman. See, Batman creates a kryptonite spear in order to kill Clark, but then he decides not to because Clark says his mother's name, whcih is also Bruce's mothers name, so he realizes they're the same like pottery. Then Doomsday shows up and they and Wonder Woman fight him and Batman goes "Hey I know I have a thing I was gonna use to kill Superman that we can use now!" and so they have to lure Doomsday to where the kryptonite spear is at which point Clark goes "Yo I got this" and impales both himself and Doomsday on the spear killing them both. Except Clark isn't really dead (but we're supposed to assume Doomsday is I guess)
Batman v Superman. Not only did Batman win, he did it with PREPTIME.
>>81003111
I can't believe I'm rooting for a fucking Burton Alice sequel to smash Xmen.
>>81003073
She's a huge character though with precedent, not an all-new, surprisingly overqualified insert character
>>81003104
It means that Lex is a narcissist because that's exactly the petty shit that pathological narcissists fo.
>>81003111
X-Men usually does well financially despite Fox's inept marketing team.
>>81003143
>>James Wan directing Aquaman
That sounds pretty gud, I hope you're not making shit up.
>>81003099
DC are in too deep to change their plans.
>>81003099
Yes it will
>>81003146
>Not only did Batman win, he did it with PREPTIME.
Sounds in character to me.
>>81001878
Just recast. The person that chose a kike coathanger with microcephalia for the role should be flogged.
>>81003146
I really hope this is a joke, but I know in my heart it's not.
>>81003174
Look it up m8, he's basically confirmed.
>>81003073
desu Rey was too OP
>>81003185
>movie starring BATMAN AND SUPERMAN flopping critically and setting bad tone for the rest of the canon
>thinking they'll go through with a fucking Aquaman movie
>>81002147
It's like everyone talking about how great Faora was.
MoS was so shit, that her being a qt with barely any lines made her seem amazing.
>>81002734
Yes, it boils down to whatever explanation you already had in your head as to why you're ignoring all these things that make it a bad movie
You're probably one of those fags that think every critic ever is a Donnerfag even though not a single review mentions him.
>>81003254
Faora movie when?
>>81003250
Are you stupid?
>>81003250
Who knows, we might see them begging Disney to do a JLA vs. Avengers movie.
>>81003219
>James Wan
>Anywhere near remotely good
This may sound like damage control but critics are not at all good indicators on whether something is good or not.
so is this movie actually shit?
>>81003219
Why would I lie when the truth is this much fun?
>>81003250
>If critics hate then it make box office
Say hello to Transformers
>>81002795
>the scene where he floats out in space in the shape of a cross
>the part where he talks to a fucking PREIST
>in a church
>next to a fucking picture of jesus
God its so god damn infantile.
>>81003040
>How does the critically acclaimed Nolan trilogy fit into your mindset?
It's not Superman, some people will never ever ever accept a serious Superman movie even with Batman in it. Same probably with Wonder Woman as general audiences will only know her from the TV show.
>>81003357
That never stops /co/
>>81003248
Worst still, she had nothing to do with that story until the jedi stuff at the very end. Just like WW will most likely have little to do with this.
>>81003254
Not only did she barely have any lines but the lines she did have were either generic or stupid.
>>81003250
>multiple award winning director at the helm
>already sunk massive amounts of money into it
If BvS is a total financial flop (it won't be) then we'll see.
>>81003392
Yes 1 7 second moment and 1 2 minute scene in a 140 fucking minute long movie.
GET THE FUCK OVER IT!
>>81001878
>all these reviews citing Gadot's weak performance
on the contrary anon.
They call both superman/batman weak as fuck and they praised both WW and Alfred.
>>81003444
Whats wrong with criticizing the movie?
>>81002982
I saw it last night. I promise you anon, that doesn't happen. Idk how this is still being said after the screenings. The 3 day shit doesn't happen. It never specifies how many days pass between him dying and the funeral
>>81003444
Didn't refer to the movie. But the imagery is terrible.
If you're talking about running a metaphor into the ground, that's about as terrible as you can possibly get. And anyways, there's probably more than just those, that's just what stands in my mind.
>>81003412
You might be surprised. While it won't lose money for the studio, it may not make as much money as they want or expect it to make.
>>81003392
You forgot the age parallels.
When Clark is 13 he has a "Why shouldn't I be doing my purpose" moment with the school bus, like how young Jesus has one in the temple.
Then he does the wandering earth montage from the ages of 19 to 33, coming out as Superman as the age of, guess who Jesus.
And now?Now he dies on Good Friday. After getting pierced by a spear. Just like Jesus.
>>81002534
The "muscle" she gained look like grotesque tumors
>Affleck finally play a superhero well
>it's in a shitty movie
>>81003104
She told him "don't give me piss and tell me it's granny's peach tea" earlier when she blocked himfrom importing the kryptonite
>>81003510
You think they might do something on Sunday?
>>81003396
Serious isn't solemn. Serious isn't somber. Serious isn't draining. Serious isn't the problem.
All they had to do with MoS was have Superman say "No. I don't believe humans are going to treat me like crap. No. I don't care if it might hurt me I'm going to help people". All the rest of the movie and characters and story could've stayed exactly the same. But a Superman that's weak willed? That's what doesn't work.
>>81002898
>neck
Can't tell if intentional
>>81003510
Oh. God. I didn't even consider the spear as part of that.
Please PLEASE don't let there be even more of those metaphors, its so heavy handed it literally makes me cringe.
>>81003392
>he's talking to a priest in a church
How is that jesus symbolism.
>next to picture of jesus
IN A CHURCH!?
>>81003510
POTTERY
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>>81003562
He wasn't the problem in Daredevil.
>>81003150
>Wanting that abomination to win
You clearly didn't see the first trainwreck. Fuck that. Tim burton should have been blacklisted after that shitshow.
>>81001878
well from the reviews she barely had a chance to perform, just the generic fighting. it's up on the air how well she will do on WW movie
>>81003564
I thought the critics said the movie was humorless.
>>81003657
Anything over Jennifer Lawrence.
>>81003485
its nitpicking not criticizing.
>>81001878
>all these reviews saying X
>over 100 posts
>no sources
>>81003597
>serious isn't solemn
Yeah it is.
>>81001878
I'm happy you were vindicated. I wish Ladderbro was here for the feast.
>Gadot carried the movie with her weak ass arms
lmao that says more about how weak the movie is rather than how strong Gadot's performance is
>>81003619
look up the screencaps or download it yourself, notice how the camera angle gets weird just to frame supes in a way that shows him and jesus imagery next to each other
>>81003663
Would you have prefered a modern day Wonder Woman to the WWI one we're getting?
>>81003483
>They call both superman/batman weak as fuck and they praised both WW and Alfred.
I mean, I'm not surprised in the slightest that Batfleck is shit, but WW is good?
I call an incredible amount of bullshit on that. Gadot was awful in Triple 9 and the Furious movies.
>>81003671
That isn't humor.
>>81003721
shut up
>>81003725
No it really isn't. I've seen literal funerals that weren't somber, but they were still serious.
>Cavill, I swear to god if you don't defend this movie anonymously on a Maldivian sculpturing board I will write another scene with Jesus imagery, do you want me to compare you to Jesus again?
>>81003760
Yeah it is.
>>81003444
Wow, someone's easily rustled.
>>81003721
there is a review aggregator being linked on every other thread on /tv/
if you need sources, they are easily available
>>81003612
>>81003510
>>81003392
SoSnyder thinks Superman should be Jesus and should also kill?
I don't get why people are against the Jesus imagery, Superman is literally Jesus in the comics
>>81002619
How are those films still making money?
>>81003811
Solemn is literally an synonym for serious
>>81003040
Nolan Batman had quips and humor, but they were set in a serious world.
I agree with you about the main problem with MoS and BvS is terrible directing.
>>81003863
Jesus broke terminally ill people's necks in Last Temptation of Christ
>>81003894
Maybe just maybe the audiences don't give a shit about you reviews?
>>81002222
LISTEN TO THIS QUADS.
They don't even need to make an excuse, just recast her and pretend nothing happened. Marvel did with Bruce Banner and no one gave a fuck.
>>81002710
Jesus wasn't a glum cunt all the time
Batman is brutal and cruel and dark, Superman is THE LIGHT. He's supposed to enjoy being the hero not feel fucking burdened by it!
>>81003619
>talking to a priest.
He consults a fucking priest to try and resolve the issue of confronting Zod? Don't you think it would be time for him to actually interact with Mama Kent as an adult? It seems like ANY option would be better. Hell, maybe show him just by himself with internal conflict.
The whole scene is contrived so that they can fit him right next to the shot of jesus and say
>HEY GUYS
>SEE HOW SIMILAR THEY ARE
>DID YOU NOTICE THE IMAGERY
>THIS IS CALLED A METAPHOR
>THIS IS POTTERY.
>>81003863
Who fucking knows. Maybe he just thinks it makes him a genius somehow. If the new movie is as saturated in it I honestly don't know how to respond. You can't just push that shit into a movie and think it elevates it.
>>81003597
>All they had to do with MoS was have Superman say "No. I don't believe humans are going to treat me like crap. No. I don't care if it might hurt me I'm going to help people"
Their was NOTHING weak willed about mos's Superman. It took a tremendous will to stand back and do nothing for the greater good.
They WILL factually treat him like crap, you really want him and Pa to be that delusional in this fucking day and age?
It wasn't just about if they hurt him for helping people.
Pa says it out loud.
'This isn't just about our lives or the lives of those around us Clark, when people find out what you can do its going to change everything"
His not going public was also (probably more so) about the social ramifications and the lives that would be lost In the wake of his reveal.
>>81003931
Most of the audience are actual subhumans like Chinese that literally consume shit on a day to day basis.
This is why nobody talks about box office as if it matters. Because anyone with a working brain will go see any blockbuster movie.
>>81003993
Except Superman feeling the weight of the world on his shoulder is something that a lot of writers tackle.
>>81003931
Oh I know they dont. The final Hobbit film made over a billion dollars and it had 60%
>>81003906
Semantics. Something can be bright and even a little silly while still being dead serious.
It may be an oldfag thing though because the example I'm thinking of are rather dated..
>>81004064
All the time, anon? ALL THE FUCKING TIME!?
>>81003019
>>81003051
You only have to look at Snyder's previous films
See: Sucker Punch
>>81004057
It doesn't matter. None of this matters
>>81004071
You just reminded me how much I hated the Hobbit trilogy as a whole. That last part sucked.
>>81002597
>humorless
get ready boys, DC will now be copying the Marvel model to a T
>>81004002
Priest is an objective person to Clark's dillema and he can keep a secret. You're being an lil overreacting bitch anon.
Which one of you was this? I know it was one of you
https://youtu.be/5Q9_J8gzznE
>>81004101
yes
he has to murder spy satellites and surveillance drones to make the world less heavy
>>81003993
>Jesus didn't put up with almost everyone having ZERO faith in what he said
>Jesus wasn't pissed at the merchants and never beat their asses
>Jesus never went through enormous grief when he was praying at the garden before he's arrested
Nah I think Superman isn't sunshine and rainbows all day.
>>81003049
Watchmen and 300. It made people think he's a great director to adapt comic books.
>>81004008
The movie doesn't explore those social ramifications at all, so it becomes a moot point. But I don't want to talk about that. I want to talk about the fact that you can and have made that little diatribe that a few dozen times already and for all your whining about the campy silly Donner movie, I actually re-watched it earlier today and you know what I realized?
It makes the exact same speech. It does the exact same "Clark I don't know what the right thing is but when people find out about you things will change" speech that you've been defending for months now as some kind of masterstroke. And it does it BETTER than Snyder did it!
>>81004200
People want happy Superman.
>>81001878
It's too late to back out now, isn't WW done or close to done filming? They're not going to scrap it. At worst they'll cut the effects budget.
>>81004171
nah
At best they will take Snyder out of directorial/writing duties and make him into a do-nothing producer
At worst nothing will change and they will blame audiences for being too dumb to understand the high art that BvS is
>>81004139
Synder is an idiot savant for visuals.
>>81004172
>keep a secret
>not in confession
>doesn't consult his mom who already knows his actual problems entirely.
>doesn't deal with it himself like a hero
MoS isn't terrible, but that doesn't change the fact that the shot they set up in that scene was the height of film-school sophomore
>>81004265
Watchmen, while not really bad, is pretty flawed and "meh".
300 was good.
>>81002619
Don't forget Kingsman 2.
Rest in pieces WW
>>81004305
Not a Catholic priest, nigga.
>>81004283
It's almost done, I think they will filme april and may on Italy. the ship already sailed
>>81004305
>consult his mom
I think it's safe to say that his mom would be a little bias about the whole sacrifice thing.
>>81004305
Screw his mom. I think the bigger crime is not discussing what to do about Zod with his magical AI ghost dad that actually knows all about Zod and his capabilities.
How many people does Ben Affleck kill?
>>81004352
Even the idea of a possibility of another Freebird scene has me hype.
>>81004008
>His not going public was also (probably more so) about the social ramifications and the lives that would be lost In the wake of his reveal
What?
>>81004483
He's saying that Clark doesn't act openly as a superhero and lets Zod set the tone for alien-human relations because people would shit themselves into crazed mass hysteria, rioting in the streets, with the horses eating each other and cats and dogs living together when they realize that they're not alone in the universe. As exemplified in that scene in Man of Steel where absolutely none of that happens whatsoever, but totally would, because it would in real life, because it just would fuck you.
Reading reviews now
>Not muh Marvel
>Not enough jokes
>Too serious
>>81004658
>not enough quips
Dropped.
>>81004658
>We still have another 250 reviews to go
Buckle up. Final score is still up in the air. I'm expecting this to settle at around 50%. AoU and Ant-Man had low scores (Not this low but rotten) at first
>>81003889
Fuck you he's not and fuck Snyder too.
This is what I've always feared. What if this movie is shitty, and what if it bombs?
Wouldn't that basically end WB as a studio? Aren't they fucking counting on this film to do really well?
>BvS' RT page has literally been stuck at 17 fresh with 25 rotten for the past 2 hours.
This movie premiered in 3 different continents & only 42 reviews to show for it?
What the fuck is the hold up?
>>81004752
Fuck you he is
>>81004798
just refreshed at NOW we have 18 with 26 rotten. It's gonna be divisive as fuck.
>>81004778
Not gonna bomb no matter how much you want it to.
>>81004266
>The movie doesn't explore those social ramifications at all, so it becomes a moot point.
No its not, the concern is valid in this horrific chaotic world regardless if it's confirmed or not.
That's like saying a individual airport should not have security just because nothing bad happens at it tomorrow.
>I want to talk about the fact that you can and have made that little diatribe that a few dozen times already
I really haven't man.
>and for all your whining about the campy silly Donner movie
I like the first 2... and I rarely whine about it at all unless people demand a Superman comic or movie should never ever deviate from its example even tho the entire point of remakes and re-adaptions is to do something different and new.
>that you've been defending for months now as some kind of masterstroke.
What do you even mean by masterstroke?
I brought it up because I'm sick of people lying and claiming the only reason Clark did not reveal himself was out of selfish reasons which is not the fucking case.
>And it does it BETTER than Snyder did it!
No he said it in a hopeful yearnful lookijg forward to the bright future manner.
That doesn't make it better, Mos said it as warming or cautionary statement, both are perfect valid paths to take.
I bet you think The Dark Knight Returns Superman was weak willed also while the truth is he sacrificed his own freedom so his friends could live and not be hunted down.
>>81004778
It wont bomb. Bombing is when you don't make back your production cost. For DC movies to do well they actually do have to adopt the Marvel method. Critics have decided that that is how a Superhero movie should be, an action comedy
>>81001878
>be greek
>start getting into comics in my early teens
>library has george perez Wonder Woman run
>holy shit this is amazing
>start buying the Jimenez/Rucka stories
>holy shit this is even more amazing
>Diana is prominently featured on JLU, she's boring but at least she's getting some exposure
>Infinite Crisis happens, everything goes to shit
>Wonder Woman movie announced, but its Joss Whedon
>WB doesn't like his direction, thank god
>tv gets announced
>its a trainwreck, but at least it never made it past pilot
>A few years later, Azz finally gives us another good WW run, things looking up
>WB finally wants to bring Diana into live action
>they select talentless israeli skeleton to show up as a glorified cameo in one of the blatant examples of nepotism ever
>for some reason they start filming her solo movie before they can even see how people react to her
>its set in WWI so they can avoid being compared to Captain America
>Diana is 5000 years old
>from the mind of the man who wrote fucking PAN
why is being a Wonder Woman fan so suffering?
>>81004836
41% now. It's climbing lads.
>>81004928
How would you write Wonder Woman or bring her to the big screen then?
Arcs?
Quirks?
Villains?
Supporting Cast?
Gags?
Costume?
>>81002982>>81002464
what are you shitting me??? just like jesus??
>>81004658
It's insane. People are literally saying that because this isn't EXACTLY LIKE MUH MARVEL MOVIES, it's bad.
>>81004906
I hope this movie does well just because of that. I want to watch different types of superhero movies than action comedies.
>>81001878
>It's Batman v Superman v the contents of your bladder in Zack Snyder's too-long, just-passable 155-minute superhero slugfest.
So I guess Titanic is automatic garbage, fucking critics
oh and
>As superhero spectacles go, Zack Snyder's Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is a grand one, with a mondo-operatic climax and a final shot infused with quivering, exhilarating molecules of grace. It's also not much fun.
>not much fun
lmao
>>81004928
speaking of Wonder Womans age and the the JLU. how old was shein that? I remember an episode with her recognizing something in a museum as if she knew the artist personally but it was something ancient
>>81003300
/r/ing the Faora flirts with Lois Lane greentexts, please.
>>81004778
It won't bomb, but mostly because it has no competition. If they hadn't change from May 6, it would get destroyed.
>>81004976
>if I ignore the content of the reviews and just look at the blurbs, I can ignore them because they don't confirm to my bias
>>81004658
I think it's more "this movie is in serious mode while having retarded imagery and piss drinking and zombie aliens and weak ass symbolism and expecting me to give a shit"
>>81005001
Marvel has them whipped well
>>81004658
>>81004976
people liked nolan's stuff, which is VERY different from the marvel formula
but i guess you just found your scapegoat reason to justify this shit
>>81004961
Adapting a huge chunk of what Rucka did would be for the best.
Making her an ambassador is the smartest thing DC has ever done. It shouldn't be forgotten and makes her stand out from something like Thor.
Fighting Ares first would be the way to go since you do have to introduce the gods, but I'd also set up Barbara Minerva so Cheetah could be the central villain of the sequel.
Costume is pretty much the one thing I'll give snyder that he did right and even then, that's really Wilkinson's stellar work. The high heels/raised heel is a bit much though.
>>81004882
>I really haven't man.
Your posting style is too signature for you to hide behind anonymity as well as you think you're doing. Especially when you only say the same four things over and over.
None of the characterization has any basis in the movie's reality. It's just supposition that the rest of the story actively contradicts, ant yet characters don't grow or change from that contradiction. That's negative character development, and as usual, now you're going to go 'I don't see why that's a bad thing why is that a flaw".
>>81005001
>As superhero spectacles go, Zack Snyder's Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is a grand one, with a mondo-operatic climax and a final shot infused with quivering, exhilarating molecules of grace. It's also not much fun.
>not much fun
What the fuck does that mean? She liked it but because it wasn't fun it wasn't good?
I'm seeing that "fun" word a lot
>>81004906
>
>Critics have decided that that is how a Superhero movie should be, an action comedy
Critics still loved the Dark Knight more than any marvel movie. Have you ever considered, maybe people aren't unwilling to accept a serious superhero movie, and maybe Snyder is just terrible at making one?
>>81004778
No, box office isn't the only revenue stream for these companies.
It'd take a string of very big flops like what happened in the 90s to really scare warner, at worst with this flopping they fire a bunch of executive, tsujihara and rush out a trilogy of solo batman flicks to print money.
That said I don't think it'll bomb but it'll be really interesting to see how much it drops in the second week and how much Asia likes it.
>>81005163
Man of Steel triggered so many people in 2013 that "fun" got turned into a buzzword.
>>81003362
YOU SOUND LIKE SUCH A FUCKING VILLAIN.Would you be willing to shave your head?
>>81005163
It means that the movie was over the top and bombastic but not actually entertaining for all its pomp and circumstance. Style, but no substance to make that style enjoyable.
BUT FUCK THAT SHE SAID THE F WORD LET'S ALL QUOTE IT AND DISREGARD EVERYTHING ELSE FOREVER.
>>81005117
Rucka is a shit
>>81005111
>people liked nolan's stuff
Critics love sucking Nolans dick. Nobody gave a fuck about begins. It's BO was dogshit compared to other heroes. Thank fuck Heath died or that wouldn't have broken a billion either
>>81005111
people liked Nolan's batman
people like Super
people liked Sin City 1
people liked 300
people liked the latest xmen stuff
people liked chronicle
>t-they just dislike b-because i-ts not l-like MCU!!!
>>81001962
Well that may be due to her being limited to a minimum of 12 lines of dialogue in the movie.
But to carry your own movie, well is we going to be a silent film?
>>81005001
>As superhero spectacles go, Zack Snyder's Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is a grand one, with a mondo-operatic climax and a final shot infused with quivering, exhilarating molecules of grace. It's also not much fun.
What? "This movie was great, but not fun so slap that rotten on there"
>>81005163
She also acknowledges that /fun/ is not what it sets out to be or what she went in expecting
>>81005207It's already shaved.
>these are professional critics
>>81005174
The Dark Knight came out in 2008, the same time the first MCU films did. It essentially got grandfathered into being predigest.
If it came out today, critics would say its shit.
>>81004906
So does that mean that blue and gold would blow every marvel movie out of the water.
>>81005226
like you've ever read his WW run
>>81002397
>Honestly I'm not worried about this film.
>Outside of RT scores I've only heard nothing but positive things so far.
Ah hopeless optimism. Your downfall is so sweet.
>>81004152
>We could have had del Toro in one concise movie
>instead we got jackson shoe horning in donut steels and padding everything into a trilogy
WHO THE FUCK GOT THE MONEKY PAW
>>81005249
You know thats not the whole review right?
>>81005249
>exhilarating molecules of grace
What the fuck does this mean
Why are reviews filled with such bullshit descriptions
>>81005281
>It's not professional unless it tells me what I want to hear.
>>81005281
there's literally nothing wrong with anything here
sorry you're so asspained
>>81005244
Were people even aware that Sin City and 300 were based on comic books? Because I know nobody did for Kingsmen
>>81005244
People just hate anything that's not MUH SUPERMAN. It's painfully obvious to spot the biased critics.
>>81005328
They're trying to be eloquent but lack the vocabulary.
>>81005281
Professional critics are a joke. What are their credentials, why should I put stock in these people's opinion?
So what Im gathering from the early reviews is that people want the same formula like a damn infant and BvS doesnt give them that correct?
>>81005281
Okay, I understand disliking too much CGI, since usually what that means is too obvious or obnoxious CGI, but why is he citing Oscar winners as a negative?
>>81005306
wanna test me nigga?
>>81005302
I sure hope so.
>>81005281
I'm sure that cunt won't have the CGI complaint for Civil War
>And of course now he’s squaring off against Batman, for reasons that even the film can’t quite understand. “He has the power to wipe out the entire human race,” says Ben Affleck’s Batman of Henry Cavill’s Superman. “If we believe there is even a one percent chance that he is our enemy, we have to take it as an absolute certainty.” Bruce, you’re meant to be among the smartest men on Earth and you can’t tell 1 per cent from 100 per cent? That makes literally no sense.
This is a professional review.
>>81005321
Write a better review next time sweetheart.
>>81005281
Filth. I can't wait for this to make bank.
>>81005297
You think it's more likely that every single critic in the world changed their mind about how they like their Batman, or that Zack Snyder, the guy who never made a good movie in his life, made another not good movie?
Also >>81005244
>>81005281
one of them says to literally wait for the next marvel movie, they arent even trying to hide the bias anymore
>>81005375
Sounds about right. It's just so sickening to read.
>>81005355
They were marketed pretty heavily as being from Frank Miller
>>81005281
>This is "Paradise Lost" for superheroes. It twists and grinds two of the most classic comic heroes, wringing new, less altruistic emotions out of them until their dashing smiles turn to angry grimaces.
Um. Yeah. That's form a positive review (60% kek)
The "good" reviewers are no better. Anyone that has actually read Paradise Lost and seen Opera would know that any comparison to even a good superhero movie is a fucking insult. Its literal buzzword replacement of substantive analysis.
>>81005314
>Intial reactions from moviegooers were nothing but praise.
You have to admit that there is a dissonance going on between the professionals and the audience.
What did he mean by this?
