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Why is this season so Frank, bros?
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Cause frank is fukin franking everyone
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Daredevil Season 2?

More like Frank Season 1: Daredevil shows up occasionally and is a faggot
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>>80898453
>implying that's what the gun scene corresponds to in the comics
Fucking cringeworthy OP
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On a percentage based scale, how close was Elektra to cumming when Matt was beating the shit out of the man who killed his father?
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I'm not sure I understood the Hand's plan
>Step 1: Dig huge hole in the ground
>Step 2: Make a normal human with above-average fighting skills your leader
>Step 3: ????
>Step 4: World domination
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>>80898566
One hundred percent. It's not a matter of "close."
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>>80898588
>Step 5: Die from blood infection
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>Every time Foggy says war zone
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why hasn't karen died already
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>>80898453

OPINION!!!!!!!!

They should have replaced the Elektra shit with Kingping shit and the season would have been beyond perfect
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>>80898566

forced edgy shit
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Anyone else regret watching it in one sitting? I have nothing else to watch now
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>mfw the Potato Niggers threatened to torture Rex
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>tfw /co/ hates your waifu just because she's trying her best even though she's not perfect

Feels bad

You have to appreciate her earnestness
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>>80898803
Counter-opinion. They should have replaced the Elektra shit with Typhoid Mary shit.
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>>80898788
She needs to become a porn star and a drug addict first, and later be told that she has AIDS
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>>80898588
>>Step 1: Dig huge hole in the ground
Yeah, what the fuck was that hole for?
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>>80898588
Yeah Elektra being Black Sky was super disappointing.

Like I'm pretty sure Nobu could destroy her in a fight so what's the point of her being leader
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>>80898596
Watch Alexander, retard. Colin Farrell plugs her in that and she's topless.
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>>80898453
does frank show up after episode 4?
what about the dog?
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>>80899255
They dug a hole from Japan to New York
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>>80899893
>does frank show up after episode 4?
Yes
>what about the dog?
No more doggo
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>>80899953
b-but he was franks buddy!
he could've become the dog-punisher!
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>>80900037
>dog sidekick with guns
Season 3.
I wish
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>>80898903
I like her, anon.
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>>80900142
Yeah but people in these threads bash her like she's Felicity

I really hope she doesn't become Felicity in season 3
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Is Elektra the Huntress of Daredevil? ie a shit character that nobody cares about that just won't go away.
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>>80900210
She was so useful, uncovering shit and being badass
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To people complaining about the Elektra Black Sky thing, remember that kid from Season 1 who was also a Black Sky? That skinny little shit who was chained down? Clearly there's still a bunch of shit the hand is into that we don't know about.
Fuck, we don't even know what the Black Sky even IS except that the Hand wants it, and, going by how the Black Sky is always referred to as an "it" it may not be just the person.
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who was that redhead that was with the hand
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>People shitting on Karen and Elektra
W E W
L
A
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>>80899933
>>80899255
It's where they've found the Urn.

Either that or Magic ain't gotta to explain shit, yet.
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>>80900210
Whut? How?

For fuck sake, I get that felicityi s considered a mary sue, but page is clearly an human character, not a stand-in fantasy. It's an as real character as you can get.

It's really like people are charging their engine for the sake of hatting, no matter what, and using BS reason to justify it because they have seen it work somewhere else.
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>>80898849
i am currently watching Ascension. Not a cartoon or comic based, but really good.
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>>80900599
Yeah, she's the 'love interest that doesn't know they are dating the hero' trope done right. It's been done well before, but the CW shows run it into the ground with Laurel and Felicity and Iris.

Netflix benefits from affording better actors and writers, though.
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>>80900322
I wouldn't call her a badass. Elektra was. She was tenacious, though. I liked that.
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Cole-Alves when?
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>>80900726
Beginning stuff with her confronting Grotto and calling his shit was kind of badass. I liked when she leaned for a kiss and gave him the bird instead.
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>>80898453
What was he laughing at?
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>>80899255
Nobu order them to dig a hole and they dug a hole.
Must be how riddlers henchmen feel, they don't quite understand the point of their task but they do it because it's their job!
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>>80900822
The thugs being fooled by an empty weapon.

He only used it until the marine got inside the house.
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>>80900846
They all met Kilgrave and threatened him and he racistly just said. "Oh fuck off straight back to China".
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>>80899058
I think that's part of her past in the MCU, because the newspaper guy told her Ben had a file on her, and that he and Ben didn't care about what was on it.

The most we'll see is cropped footage of it with someone seeing an old video of hers and freaking out when they realize it's her.
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>>80900889
meant for
>>80900836
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>>80899299
>Like I'm pretty sure Nobu could destroy her in a fight so what's the point of her being leader
I am pretty sure part of being Black sky required to go in urn (alive or not), where her potential power would have truly unveiled.

They have said it. Black Sky are child with secret power. Nobu didn't have the genetic to make it work.
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>>80900892
>Matt finds some porn
>Starts masturbating
>Realizes it's Karen
>Starts maturbating more furiously
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>>80899933
lmao
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>No mention of S.H.I.E.L.D
>Foggy isn't wearing a CA emblem shirt or talking about being rich like Tony Stark
>no quips
>No body talking about Tony Stark

Why is DD ashamed to be part of the MCU?
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The moral of the story is:
It's wrong to kill someone, unless that person is a zombie.

(also, resurrected count as zombie).
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>>80900962
Matt wouldn't be able to perceive video on a screen
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>>80900453
>mfw
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Just finished episode 5. Please tell me this is the worst episode of the season.
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>>80900977
The movie division wants to stay as far away from Netflix shows as possible.
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>>80901017
It actually is
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>>80901017
5-7 is the weakest imo, but it immediately gets better
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it didn't really make any sense that punisher showed up at the end to pick off those ninjas, but I'll be god damned in hell if it wasn't awesome

Frank really stole the whole series. Maybe they'll shitcan that jessica jones trash and make a Punisher spinoff.
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>>80900987
>Foggy finds some porn
>Starts masturbating
>Realizes it's Karen
>Starts maturbating more furiously
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>>80901017
Yeah, it actually is.

They start a new season there almost. It builds up from there on.
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>>80901065
Before that scene he started listening to the police radio, heard about ninjas with bows, probably saw what was going on and knew the ninjas were worth killing because they killed the cops and DD was fighting them.

It makes sense if you put two and two together.
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What was the song that played when Frank dropped the biker with the headphones?
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>Decide to look up Marci's actress
>Her tits are so big there's no way she doesn't have nudes
>She does not
Why is this allowed?
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They should've had segments of Fisk just trying to fit in the prison & have him network some prison politics until he becomes a King Pin in the cells.
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Why do people act like JJ was so bad? It was fine. Not as good as Daredevil seasons one or two, but it was in no way bad. Its biggest flaw was that it could've been shorter, but other than that it was solid.
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>>80901022
So Agents of S.H.I.T is fine but the Netflix series isn't? what bullshit.
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>>80901160
Have you checked Ancensored?
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>>80901215
Agents of SHIELD is finally good now.

Yeah, it took 3 seasons but it actually is.

The Netflix shows are too dark and violent for muh MCU
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>>80901264
And shitposting reachs a new low. Somewhere an australian cries.
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>>80901179
I'm one of the people who "acts like it was so bad." I wouldn't whine about it except that the media talks about it like it's the greatest thing ever. In the DD season 2 reviews, everyone was saying how awful DD was, and how much better JJ is. Go look at any aggregate review site. Critics fawn over JJ, fans love DD.

JJ was not good. It might have been better if it weren't trying SO HARD to be in your face about being political and if the JJ actress weren't shit. DD is basically a fucking masterpiece for the genre, and it infuriates me that critics jizz all over it and even go so far as to shit on DD because of their poisonous, feminist bullshit.

I'm sure I'll be accused of autism or w/e, but you asked.
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>>80901215
It's about tone. Approximating the two too much would make Daredevil seem needlessly violent of the movie MCU feel naive.

If it tells the story, I'm fine with it. I prefer to watch the characters be themselves rather than try and get as many combinations as possible on screen.
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>>80901334
I disagree with some of what you said, but I agree with your anger at retards saying JJ was better. We may disagree on whether or not JJ was good, but I'm not a dumb retard who thinks it's better than DD in any fucking way.

Also Ritter was perfect as her.
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>>80901326
How the fuck am I shitposting? Shield started off really bad, but over time improved immensely.
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>>80900977
Because the MCU is a joke. Why do you faggots need stupid little references every 10 seconds?
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When she's on her period but you still eat the pussy.
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>>80901149
Anybody?
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>>80901160
>people are actually arguing Karen vs Elektra with that bimbo around

what are they, low test?
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>>80901423
She was supposed to have ptsd and be an emotionally complex character, and instead acted like a drunken Meg Ryan or something.

It just really didn't work for me, idk senpai.
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>>80901255
I just did, seems like Amy Rutberg is pure
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>>80901546
same, people can say what they want about DD, but it's miles above JJ in every possible aspect, from waifus to action and now it has Frank
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>>80901334
You seem jaded by 4chan as a whole. Jessica Jones wasn't really a feminist show. Se kept fucking up and suffering from her own mistakes. They actually managed to make her and Trish feel human. I never felt agenda pushing like you sometimes get.

It was more psychological than Daredevil, so some people like it more. It certainly is more different from the norm in the genre from Daredevil, so it has novelty to go with it too.

The action did suck, but no one watched it for the action, anyway.

I actually don't know which I like more. I guess it changes with what you want to watch.

Also Kristen Ritter is a fucking amazing actress, she has amazing range. She didn't look the part, but she felt like the part.
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>>80899933
fastest way to get drugs/people/tentacle monsters into new york
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>>80901628
>Jessica Jones wasn't really a feminist show.
I don't really disagree with what you're ultimately saying, but the writer/producer said it was and made a huge stink about it. Which I would have been happy to ignore, except every single goddamn reviewer kept talking about how GAME CHANGING it was and HOW STRONG JJ IS LOOK SHE'S A WOMAN AND STRONG ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION BOYS

It definitely soured my enjoyment non-trivially. But I stand by my other criticisms of the show.
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>>80899761
Watch Trance, she has a full frontal and she's completely waxed.
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>>80900836
such loyalty in a henchman is hard to find
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>tfw everyone talking about Claire, Elektra, and Marci
>tfw you can only die happy if you see Karen's butthole
>sadfrog.jpg
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Damn Melvin, you awesome bro.

Nice billyclub.
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>>80901876
I have a weird fetish. When I see a famous person's pussy or anus, I feel like I own them. Thinking about that makes my dick more hard than the feeling that seeing them naked.
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>>80901628
>Jessica Jones wasn't really a feminist show.
It was actually quite the opposite, every single female character in the show was retarded as fuck to the point it was cringe worthy
Rewatch it and you'll notice that absolutely everything bad that ever happened in the show was a woman's fault
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>>80900690
Starts off promisingly but quickly turns to shit.
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I just watched Frank's outburst in the courtroom. He just keeps getting Frankier
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>>80901747
Heh, you shouldn't let the artist affect the performance. But fair enough. Daredevil is more cathartic, but Jessica Jones kept me horrified and at the edge of my seat for longer during the mystery solving plots.

I don't think either show has managed to deliver a good finale, although DD S2 is in the lead. This is what's keeping me from calling them masterpieces. They missed great opportunities too:

DD S1 should've spent more time choreographing/shooting the last fight. It looked very amateurish, especially for the big climax.

JJ S1 she should've punched him in the voice box before killing him or something more relevant to the theme that just snapping his neck.

DD S2 Frank should've killed more than 4 ninjas, that was kind of pathetic.

Which is odd, because SHIELD has had pretty great finales, despite being a cheap show.

>>80901989
Which is why I think the show humanized them pretty well. You're not supposed to agree with everything the MC does.
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>>80901065
i was disappointed you didn't hear him mowing them down with the minigun while matt and elektra were talking
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>>80901915
Melvin is the cutest, most positive thing in this series and nobody can prove me wrong.
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>>80901179
Season 1 of JJ was only good because of the villain, which they killed off. Everything else was mediocre.
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>>80902062
>I don't think either show has managed to deliver a good finale
I loved the DD S1 finale. I actually thought it was perfect. Season 2 should have just been Frank, the whole show should have been Frank. Cancel everything else and make everything Frank. No I'm not joking or being sarcastic.
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You know, considering the amount of his own DNA that DD has left around crime scenes it's a wonder nobody found it was murdoc
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so was karen starting to fall for Frank or something?
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>>80900760
Frank Boss makes me so wet
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>>80898843
>edgy

Edging. It's called edging.

I'll use it in a sentence.

Elektra was edging closer to orgasm the more Matt pummeled Roscoe.
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The season would have been much better if they just named it "Punisher and Friends" and gave frank more screen time to be franking. He was by far the best part of S2, and every scene with him in it was leagues better than any DD + Elektra scene.
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>>80901264
Well not just dark, I think they are realistic about how often people on the streets would talk about people like the avengers. Like, I don't talk about Warren Buffet all the time like they don't talk about Stark.

It just isn't a part of their life unless the city is crumbling. And if the city is crumbling well, it becomes the driving force behind Fisk's plot in season one what with the invasion causing cheap real estate
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>>80902231
they need some dna to compare it to and murdoc isnt in the system yet
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>>80898453
How many days until we get Punisher series confirmed?
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>>80901179
JJ was bad because that fucktard Bendis was involved, hes stayed far away from DD as far as i know
I just hope he keeps his chubby digits off Luke Cage
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>>80901179
>inb4 its because men cant handle a strong woman
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>>80902166
Yep, the villain was pretty great.
He wouldnt stand a chance against Frank, tho.
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>>80901264
>Yeah, it took 3 seasons but it actually is.
sounds like Stockholm syndrome.
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Finished binge watching this and I gotta say, Matt is a real faggot. The reason why I say this is he's constantly pushing the "Your way is wrong my way is right!" on EVERYONE.
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>>80901621
u had me by frank
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Do people really like these Netflix shows?
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>>80898453
>People cheer that the Avangers slaughter hydra soldiers
>Jessica Jones kills the BBEG
>Frank kill too, only hes a monster

Why are people so frankphobic, /co/?
Its 2016, people!
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>>80902672
>Calling us people
lol
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>>80902675
#FrankLivesMatter
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>>80902503
He's no Frank, but until we get Punisher's own show, hes the best we got.
Because franks show up on his show.
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One thing that really bothered me was Matt's severe case of scully syndrome when it came to the Hand.

>Theres no way that these guys are immortal or mystical in any way because thats too wierd and crazy to be true!
>Meanwhile hes standing a few blocks from ground zero of a fight between an army of aliens and the Avengers one of whom is motherfucking Thor. This event was in broad daylight and highly televised.

I know we cant have the plots of the movies overshadow the smaller stories they're trying to tell but this is getting ridiculous. It was the same problem I had with Jessica Jones and no one believing in the purple man.
The writers have to remember this is not our world anymore. The civilians in the MCU have been exposed to too much publicly displayed crazy superhero shit for them to react with such denial still when someone comes to them with stuff like this.
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>>80902503
That is part of the charm of the season. On the boat Daredevil is about to break down and agree to killing, but the Frank saves that bit of pure naivety by kicking him off the boat
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>>80902766
There should be more ongoing arcs with people exploiting shit like that fortheir own gain.
Like a smart crook that was selling fake super powers or shit,.... no that was a bad idea. Ask the writers to come up with something smart, they are the ones getting paid.
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>>80902766
>Daredevil throws people off the roof and shit
>"It's okay because they're not dead. They might be a vegetable now or paralyzed but at least they're alive. Also if anyone dies it's not my fault because I didn't kill them, I just chose not to or couldn't save them."
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>>80902766
>The writers have to remember this is not our world anymore. The civilians in the MCU have been exposed to too much publicly displayed crazy superhero shit for them to react with such denial still when someone comes to them with stuff like this.
Sadly, even in the comics writers keep trying to pretend people would act like it's still the real world
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>>80902675
>slaughter hydra soldiers
never happened.
Iron man rays are set to stun, black widow uses electricity, clint doesnt aim for vital spots, hulk has a 0 kill count, cap shield is blunt, etc, etc.
They are heroes, not killers.... and we will hate them for it. as it will be revealed in civil war.
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>>80902862
>In season 1 Matt threatens a pedophile he knows is molesting his daughter
>Just leaves them alone after that
>Frank just fucking puts a bullet in a child porn peddler's head
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Season 2 should have been an all-out gang war in the city ending with Matt declaring himself Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen.
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>>80902916
>bullet
that's a fun way to spell bat
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>>80898907
She's a mutie, dudie. No dice.
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>>80902949
It was Frank, clearly he shot the bat out of a gun.
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>>80902943
this is daredevil, not shadow the hedgehog
>inb4 something like this happened in the comics
everything happened in the comics.
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>>80900303
>Huntress
>a shit character

In what world? How fucking bad are Huntress comics other than Cry for Blood?
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>>80902943
Shadowland is for S3 or even 4 friend.
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>>80902862
No, it's okay because they are zombies.

The Hand people are already dead.
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>>80902971
Wheres the punishers sidekick?
Does he show up?
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>>80900889
>Killgrave tells them to fuck off back to china
>hundreds of ninjas take shifts literally fucking the ground to make a hole
>What Matt and Elektra found was the result of hundred of man hours of continuous ground dicking.
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>>80902889
>I don't see any evidence of regular visitations
I take it this teacher doesn't watch the new much. Or have access to the internet. Or ever talk to people outside of the classroom.
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>>80902889

That is one thing I've always liked about DC over Marvel. At least pre-Flashpoint. Erryone knew about aliens because for over a decade, they'd been a well-accepted fact.

Whereas in Marvel, they've had routine alien invasions.

Hell, the Daily Bugle and whatever Fox News-equivalent it was listed the reason Stormin' Norman became head of S.H.I.E.L.D. as "stopped an alien invasion by shooting the queen with a ray gun".
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>>80903002
Shadowland and Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen were years apart, dude.
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>>80902243
She was projecting onto Frank because of her past and she killed Wesley and never told anyone

Basically she was hoping with every fiber of her being that someone like Frank could ultimately be a good person because that would mean that she is still a good person.
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>>80903029
>cant handle the franks
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>>80901160
>Mfw her tits aren't as big as I thought
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>>80902989
He might be referring to Arrow Huntress.
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Huh.

I kind of expected it to turn out that electra stopped her own heart and was faking death

But apparently not.
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>>80900760
After they introduce Lynn.
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>>80902675
>>80902742
>Being FJWs
Fuck that. We need to build a wall around Frank.
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>>80903545
This shit right here.
This is the kind of shit that keeps me coming back to this board.
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>>80900396
Typhoid Mary you filthy casual.
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B U L L S E Y E
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>>80903268

I'm really glad her "YOU'LL BE DEAD TO ME FRANK" amounted to him telling her to fuck off. So many chances to ruin the Punisher and they dodged all of them.
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>>80902243
Way better then the vanilla matt/karen relationship
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>>80901017
5 - 8 aka Matt fucks his whole life up: the episodes are pretty bad

9 puts it back on track
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Why would anyone read capeshit when this just dominates the source "material" (for once)
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>>80902071
I expected the gattling to play a role, but instead he just carries it out of his house as foreshadowing for later I guess.
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>>80901065
>He doesn't wanna see JJ season 2 with Foggy as a main cast member

>All that grim depressing shit in Jessica's life
>Foggy just making fun and being a bro
>Together they solve mysteries or some shit
Come on, man, it writes itself.
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Do people dislike Jessica Jones to make a point? I fucking hate feminism, SJWs, etc but I can't comprehend liking superhero shit but disliking JJ... unless of course you hate everything that isn't Adam West and Christopher Reed also.
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>>80905648
>Reed
I knew there was a reason to be suspicious.
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>>80898453

>YFW Finger Splint Scene
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>>80905814
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>Hanukah!
Of course.
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>>80905922
its new york after all
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>>80900987
You know that braille machine Matt had in Season 1 to read the court documents on the computer?

I bet he has something like that for porn.
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So Luke Cage is going to be the best out of the 4, yes?
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>>80903369
They certainly are in DD, but in everything else I've found she's kinda flat. I guess she got an upgrade before the show.
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lmao I've enjoyed JJ the most so far out of these 3 seasons. Could it be that Daredevil is retarded with how many scenes are in pitch blackness? I don't know I'm not an autist that keeps notes. The fight scenes didn't quite do it for me this season besides episode 3. The show has lost its edge (disregarding Punisher).
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>>80906084

> Matt breaks down on the boat, agrees to kill Blacksmith.
> Frank doesn't want to see a fellow soldier go down the same path as him. Franks him right off the boat.

That was a damn fine moment. Frank is a true patriot.
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>say something
I'm giving up on you
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>its a Kingpin episode
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>>80906367
Honestly my favorite episode if we ignore deep Frank/Matt conversations.
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>>80898513
Since bitches were whining about this I thought it'd be the Frank show going it, but it wasn't. Daredevil was in it a titsload. They didn't forget its his show.
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>>80906403
>that talk between Matt and Fisk
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Is the redhead working with Nobu and The Hand supposed to be Typhoid Mary or someone?
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>>80901628
It's similar to what happened with Mad Max.

It's a movie where women are no better than men, morally or otherwise. Women are as hateful, violent, distrustful, cruel and destructive as men. Furiosa helps a dictator until right before the movie, the Many Mothers are murderous bandits who failed to protect the last Green Place, and so on.

Only by collaborating with the men they initially hated could they win.

But the media sees women protagonists, ignores the context, ignores the story, ignores the actual message of union and real equality, and says "SEE, WOMEN ARE BETTER, FEMINISM!".

That said, JJ may not even come close to DD, but it's still better than all the other superhero TV shows, MCU or otherwise.
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>>80906576
>mfw Fisk is going to go full Born Again on Matt next season

I just hope he doesn't turn my waifu into a junkie porn star
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So who gave frank the body armor was it the the colonel?. Wes his plant to make frank the ultimate killing machine or something?
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>>80906604
could go either way
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>>80901628
>The action did suck
How? Because it wasn't flippy cuts in pitch blackness? The action certaintly did not suck, but as you say it's besides the point.
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>>80906660
You mean early season?
He got it all from the cortel.
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>>80906712
Because it was boring and generic.
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>>80906660
How do you mean gave? The final reveal in the shed armory was body armor.
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>>80906750
DD2's weightless jumpcut kung fu is more generic than super strength cunts throwing people around.
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>>80906808
Nah
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>>80906712
The only episode with well directed action was the one with Nuke at the end, I thought. That and Kilgrave's escape from the cell, mostly because of the quick succession of 'OH FUCK' moments. That was GOAT.

Every super-strong character has trouble being brought to a tv screen because everything they lift seem like Styrofoam. You never feel the impact and you could always see the actors being lifted up by strings and stuff like that. Kristen is a great actress but she's built like a chopstick so there's no way around it. Also, Jessica's strength is a bit inconsistent throughout.

Not that it hinders the show at all, but I can see why it was underwhelming for people coming from DD.
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>>80906367
>its a Elektra episode
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So was the action in DD2 a step down from DD1? Ignoring Frank of course. I notice A LOT of offscreen hits where Season 1 won me over partly with its focused carnage. I guess you should expect DD to feel less real the more powerful he gets but I didn't think that'd mean niggas being KOd off screen so much.
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>>80906901
>it's a Frank episode
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>>80906712
>The action certaintly did not suck
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>>80905814
Ah, the ancient bamboo sprout under fingernail torture technique!
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>>80905648

the show was slow, dumb and watered down.

not worthy, purple man was great but the rest was shit
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>>80906755
Yeah so who's shed is it?
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I just wrapped up episode seven and I hope this Matt/Karen relationship drama ends up going somewhere.
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>>80905648
Jessica Jones is a shitty, uninteresting character who got a show before any of the other team Daredevil characters because she is a female and because Elektra was booked for Daredevil. They should have given Mary an arc in Daredevil, given Elektra her own show and delegated JJ to Luke Cage.
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>>80907331
B-but muh abusive boyfriend just like IRL!!!
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>>80907312
heh, wait for it.
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>>80907260
Clancy Brown's. Wasn't that supposed to be our assumption? If not then holy shit someone will be pissed.
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>>80906996
It's a budget thing. This season had a 1 on 10 fight every episode. At least they do it without compromising the style or the tone. Choreography takes time to design and perfect, and this roughly follows a weekly show schedule (with a few more freedoms), and it would look like power rangers or arrow, where everyone is flailing around ducking before the kick is even on the air.

>>80907331
Idiot, she had her show written for 4 years. It had already been pitched for ABC. They just needed the greenlight from an HBO-rating channel that let them be violent. Daredevil was also already conceptualized by Drew Goddard before FOX let the rights go. Luke Cage and Iron Fist had to be built from the ground after the announcement.
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>>80907415
How does that change anything I said?
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When Matt was interviewing Frank on the stand, I was waiting for Frank to say:

"You sound real familiar, Red."
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>>80906808
I don't think 'generic' is the right criticism exactly, but the JJ action scenes are terrible. It's like in chick flicks, there's always some scene that's supposed to be for the men who got dragged there, but it never makes any sense in the context of the film and the men aren't satisfied by it regardless. That's what the fights in JJ felt like. Shit that didn't really work, was tacked on only because people felt it "had to be there", and ultimately half-assed and boring.

Be honest: do you remember the details of ANY JJ fights? Compare the fights in JJ to the 2 long fights in DD season 1 and 2 (the fact that you know exactly what I'm talking about proves my point), and you'll see what I mean.
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>>80907446
>who got a show before any of the other team Daredevil characters because
despite both having been written before there was even a Netflix deal.

>>80907465
If Charlie Cox had red hair like the comics he could've casually called him Red in front of the others without them knowing.
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>>80907571
So what? That still changes nothing I said. Elektra didn't get a show, instead being pawned off on Daredevil and dragging down the show like she does everything she appears in. JJ did get a show first and it is because she is a woman on team Daredevil that isn't Elektra. And JJ absolutely should have been delegated to the Luke Cage show because that is literally her only relevance. The fact there wasn't a Luke Cage show planned at the time adds insult to injury but ultimately changes nothing about my statement.
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>>80907497
I remember Luke vs. Jessica, because it was the most even fight after the Nuke one.
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>>80907723

>Nuke

Daily reminder Nuke was right and everyone else is a shithead for pushing him away and forcing him to make deals with the shady black ops dudes.
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>>80907657

>JJ got a show because she is a woman

I think you mean because she's one of Bendis' pets.

I can imagine him sitting at home jerking off when 'BASED ON THE COMIC WRITTEN BY BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS' came on screen.
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>>80907751

It's still a shame that they can't call the program Weapon X in this universe. Not yet, anyways.
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>>80907793
I wish I knew that fat cunt's home address so I could send him my issue of Deadpool where Kitty gets knocked the fuck out.
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>>80907657
Are you seriously this stupid? They had two almost fully written shows. They put them on air first, since they were already ahead in production, compared to the ones that fucking weren't.

Jessica Jones only relevant run is better than most of Luke Cage's solo career, and her relevance hinges on the villain and how lonely she feels against him.

Also, introducing Elektra without Daredevil, or even sharing the same production schedule? What would you like to be if you weren't retarded?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu9a29UR2dU

So I'm a bit confused, was that Wesley's car? Or just some random car from someone who died at the hospital?

I really hope Wesley secretly listened to disco cassettes.
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>>80907886
>Jessica Jones only relevant run is better than most of Luke Cage's solo career
Holy shit, is this Bendis? Fuck off.
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>>80907901
She stole Urichs car after she got him killed.
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>>80907934
Also his job.
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>>80907923
>implying you know shit about capeshit before hollywood drops a movie or show
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>>80907751
Nuke was right but he was still a piece of shit and went to far when Jess didn't go far enough..
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>>80907934
Oh shit, that was his car wasn't it. That makes sense.

>takes Ben's car
>takes Ben's job
>takes Ben's office

Mrs. Urich better watch out, I don't think audiences are ready for that.
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>>80907998
Yeah, because I'm the one keeping track of the production schedules of TV shows and citing them as justification for any and all planned characters within a televised universe. Take your fedora back to /tv/.
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>>80908040
Name 3 great Luke Cage runs. You've got 3 minutes.
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>>80908068
Name 1 good Jessica Jones run. You've got 1 hour.
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Fellas, I love this thread and everyone who posted in it, even the shittier trolls.

/co/ for 2nd best board (after /tg/) confirmed.
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>>80908068
Original, Heroes for Hire, Cagebolts.
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>>80907923
Fine. Tell me which solo Luke Cage run is good enough or different enough from the clichés to be adapted into a one season show.

Hating bendis now for fucking everything up is popular and all, but remember he got the power to fuck everything up by writing a bunch of pretty great stuff, particularly before people got sick of him.
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>>80898453
that screenshot and that cover are entirely unrelated and you should feel bad for comparing them
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>>80903025
there's a reference to micro at the end of the last episode
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>>80908123
>Heroes for Hire
>Cagebolts
>Solo
Right. Original sure as hell would've easy to put to screen too. It's not like they would be shitblasted for being racist or anything. It's like you don't even live in the real world.

>>80908097
Alias.
>inb4 Bendis.
It was good enough to be brought to screen. You guys think that because of the writer is writing shit now means everything he ever looked at was shit.
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Alektra and black nurses parts are boring.
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>POST YFW WHEN NEW BATONS
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>>80908282
>It was good enough to be brought to screen.
According to who?
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>>80899255
Vampires
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>>80908301
>when when

Do you know how acronyms work, anon?
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How long to we get wildfrank?
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>>80898453

So what happened in Kandahar?
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>>80902501
I started with season 3 then watched one and two on Netflix
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>>80908329

Brian Michael Bendis.
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How would you describe Wilson Fisk's mannerisms in two words or less?
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>>80898453

>12 YEARS OLD

You dun fucked up
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>>80908282
Bendis was never good, and he's only gotten worse
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>>80908403
Weird, how Slingshot had better speeding VFX than the flash. or any of the quicksilvers.

I guess they could splurge a bit more, because they use less VFX, but still, I thought it was pretty cool.
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>>80908464
>Daredevil
>Ultimate Spider
>Alias
He might have become complacent and brought his dialogue style to places that didn't need it and single-handedly ruin modern marvel comics, but he wasn't always bad, despite the memes. Seriously, stop regurgitating what /co/ and /tv/ put in your head.
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So are Frank and Matt on good terms at the end of the season?

I mean, he sees him come back after everyone thought he was dead and shoots a couple of ninjas, but I guess the whole 'gotta stop him no matter what' attitude took a backseat to dealing with the Hand.
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>>80908365
I'm sorry, was trying to quickly type before my rocket league match started
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>>80908442

Asperger's Syndrome.
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>>80908551
Just be honest. You just started reading comics didn't you.
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>>80898453

Who else skipped past any part that didn't directly involve Frank in some way? Matt was just a prick this season.
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>>80908622
stuff like this makes me think they'll greenlight a Frank series after all.
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>>80908658

I think it would have been better if they just shortened the season to like 8 episodes centered entirely around Frank, and then saved the Hand stuff for the next season. Cause Frank just overshadows everything else. That's what he does.
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>>80908551
Negro, I have read every one of Bendis's earlier works including Powers, and the exact same flaws he has today are present in all his earlier works
>disregard for continuity
>panels oversaturated with dialogue
>giant splash pages with entire conversations
>extreme decompression
>no distinct character voices
>Repetition
>Repetition?
>Yes, repetition
>dropped plot points
he's worse today, but don't pretend these are new problems
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best girl coming through
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>>80908753
And those work for Alias perfectly fine, which is my initial point.

It doesn't tarnish the first runs the fact that he overstayed his welcome.
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>>80908401
FRANK ME UP INSIDE
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>>80908753
oh and waifuing Kitty Pryde
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why did those two Jakuza flunkies tie their pinkie fingers before getting shot in the head?
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post some season 2 frankface
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>>80908801
Elektra's last kick in that fight scene was fucking pathetic. The fight was pretty cool, but the last half-assed kick made me chuckle.
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>>80908845

They thought they were going to cut their fingers off for their failure.
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So who attacked the Irish in the very beginning? Did we see a ninja star go into a mick's neck? I know someone lost a hand postmortem, which isn't the Punisher's style, right?
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Why does Dare Devil punch like a girl? Didnt he learn anything from his dad?
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>>80908836
CAN'T FRANK UP
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>>80908961
he chopped the hand off to get the briefcase full of money to lure Finn Cooley to America
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>>80908961
It was the punisher. He cut the hand because it was cuffed to the case with money for his toys and to bring the boss into play.

There was no ninja star, he just started with a snipe.
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>>80908961
are you fucking stupid
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>>80904024
Incidentally, they set up so many cliche scenes, and dodged every single one of them.

>Foggy being a bit jealous of Matt and Karen, didn't develop into a shitty love triangle
>Matt and Elektra half naked talking and then sleeping in Matt's living room didn't develop into Karen finding them and assuming he's cheating on her
>Karen actually finding Elektra on Matt's bed, wounded, didn't develop into "you're cheating on me". She considers it one possibility, but in the end she's just tired of Matt's secrets.
>Every single instance of "DON'T KILL HIM, YOU'LL BE AS BAD AS HIM IF YOU DO" didn't pan out as they always do. Frank's "I'm already dead" one is the greatest.

Unfortunately, Elektra's last words were very cliche.
>I now know... how it feels to be good

Fuck, lady, you weren't good, you went out killing people like you always did. The only thing that changed was that Matt admitted he wanted to shag you if you survived.
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>>80909063
I apologize I don't catch every last detail in a 13 hour movie.
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