Hey, Steve Rodgers wouldn't be on the FutureCrime side, this is bullshit, no way cap would be on the side wanting to imprison people before they commit a crime.
>>80863177
Woah you mean Bendis write characters... out of character?
Woah. WOAH!
>>80863177
Here's the full size pics of both sides for anyone who has not seen them.
>>80863201
>spidey must make a difficult choice
>>80863258
Christ alive, really? Again?
>other Civil War thread still didn't go
>better make another
I know you're desperate for shillbux, but show some decency.
>>80863177
what issue brings up baby hitler
>>80863201
>actual lawyer
>wants to punish people for not breaking the law
What exactly is going on? I have not even half been paying attention to the Marvel universe lately.
>>80863177
Why do they keep telling their artists to draw Carol as a dude?
>>80863454
Who give a shit?
>>80863493
Because Tumblr is watching.
>>80863454
Minority Report, basically.
>>80863315
>Actual lawyer
>Violates the law daily as a vigilante
>>80863278
MORAL CENTRE OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE!
>>80863454
>>80863552
This pretty much exactly. They're doing another civil war but this time the argument is about a Mutant (or inhuman I can't remember and it doesn't matter because they're basically the same thing) who can predict the future with crazy good accuracy. Captain Mahvel and her goons want to use the power to catch criminals before they can act. Iron Man and his cronies think that that's wrong. Thus another "great" Bendis event begins where we get to see characters written 100% accurately beating the living shit out of other heroes for 100% justified reasons over a movie that came out in 2002 because of a movie that come out this year.
>>80863285
Hi I'm the OP, I'm actually not a shill, I saw this on a news site this morning and even though I don't read comics for a while it still made me mad seeing Steve Rodgers on the future crime side because he would never do that. So I came here to make a thread. I am so out of the loop honestly I don't even know who half the people on those teams are.
I'm sure there are shills paid to make threads exactly like this, I know we get a lot over on /tv/, there was a huge shill push for movies like It Follows, Babadook, etc that I'm sure were done by agencies, they just kept making threads over and over, so its good to be suspicious.
>>80863567
>Actual Lawyer
>Once believed in Due Process
> What continuity?
So I was wondering, /co/. If Marvel had asked YOU to create their next big event, what would you do? Could it be better than what Bendis shits out?
>>80863258
>Not this shit again... I don't even have a marriage to sell to satan to get out of it this time!
>>80863989
Have all the characters who share names fight for the title.
>>80863567
does Jen ever actually act as a vigilante? isn't she usually only acting in self defense or good Samaritan?
>>80863876
Why the fuck would someone with precognition even be a big deal in Marvel? They literally have time travel and multiple timelines, their predictions would be close to meaningless.
Plus I seriously doubt this is the first person they've encountered in all their years with "future seeing" as a power.
Hell Spiderman is capable of it according to one what-if, with a little training.
Bottom-line, if any of you are still paying cash-money for any of their comics you should feel bad.
>>80864034
How about making clones of characters who will fight over identity of original?
>>80864142
So a Spider-Man and X-23 event?
>>80864142
>>80863201
>cap
>bucky
>she hulk
>spiderman
>all okay with imprisoning people before a crime was committed
Jesus christ
>>80863177
I still can't get over how shit the sides are
>>80864067
Oh hell no, I'm not going to buy the book. Was just giving the premise. The one thing to note though is that it wasn't stated to specifically be precognition, just accurate prediction of the future. It could be some crazy ass math powers that means the character calculates the probability of events with surprising accuracy. Still fucking dumb no matter how they spin it.
>>80863989
I would have had a charismatic but deeply flawed billionaire running for president, who although completely ridiculous on some issues also made some straight white people feel for the first time like their government maybe wouldn't actively be working against them or portraying them as the source of everything evil and all oppression in the world and that they should probably let themselves die out for the good of the rest of the races, and also he was the first presidential candidate to ever say that maybe it wasn't a totally flawless and unassailable idea that flooding America with Muslims and Mexicans and letting her borders be completely porous and uncontrolled, might maybe not be such a good idea for the future and safety and lives of the white people living in America.
Then I would have all the superheros in the marvel universe pick sides, and all the diversity heroes from the last ten years like Muslim Captain Britain and Miles Morales and the rest when they saw this candidate was actually getting the votes and getting strong support even with polices like stopping all Muslim immigration into America and having the Scarlet Witch teleport all the Muslims currently living in America to Saudi Arabia (*whispers* "No More Muslims"), and building a massive adamantium wall at the Mexican border designed by Reed Richards with patrol robots on duty 24/7, when they saw he was still actually going to win democratically they would lose faith in democracy and actually start a movement to stop his presidency from happening through force. This would force people like Tony Stark and Steve Rogers, regardless of how they felt about the candidate or his policies, even if they were disgusted by them, to step in on the other side just to preserve democracy, liberty and the democratic process.
So it ends up being all the minority, Mexican, Muslim, Black, lesbian and gay superhero characters against the cis-white male MCU.
I would call it Civil War Trump.
>>80863177
So wait, Tony, the pro-reg guy, is against future crime arresting? The guy who locked people in an extra-dimensional gulag for not registering?
W
O
W
>>80864471
I love it,
Make it happen.
>>80864580
Wasn't that Tony a Skrull?
>>80864471
Kamala, at one point, would confront this man and just scream at him. "Would you deport me?"
"No, you're an american citizen"
At that point, a terror plot unfolds next to them. Kamala stops them and the candidate convinces her of his ways.
Thus Ms. Marvel switches side.
>>80863201
TONYS GET OUT
RRREEEEE
>>80863201
Basically all of Marvel's poster people for "Always Good Guys" are all in the wrong? or is it a good thing to imprison people before they commit a crime?
>>80863201
Is Carol gonna go to prison after this?
>>80864676
She'd fit in just fine with the rest of the dykes
>>80864580
Maybe the one who againts future crime is Inverse Iron man
>>80864583
Brother, it IS happening.
You best start believing in Trump stories...
*puts on sunglasses*
...you're in one!
>>80864694
She'd of course needs to be out by March 8, 2019.
>>80864603
Was it? I can't fucking keep track of any of this stupidity any more.
>>80863177
>know that someone is going to commit a crime
>arrest them rather than convince them not to, prevent the circumstances leading to it, or getting them a therapist
???
>>80863201
>>80863215
The sides are so messed up that if you literally swapped them over 1:1 it would be way more accurate.
>>80863177
So how many decent books is this gonna potentially ruin?
Carol's in DEEP trouble, along with the Ultimates in general.
But Ewing's pretty good at working with shit events, so maybe that'll be fine.
>>80864676
Maybe. Only to be reformed (aka. mind wiped) by the time her movie comes out.
>>80863258
>Guys, did you already forget the first Civil War?
>Did none of you even SEE Minority Report?
>I hate you guys.
>>80863177
This is going to be an AvX level clusterfuck.
>>80864780
Yeah , I've never gotten that.
>>80864780
Carol Sucks
More at 11.
On the other hand, making her a flawed shitty person again was the right move then...whatever they were trying to do before.
>>80864909
They'll make her a flawed shitty woman, and expect us to like her and think she's right all the time.
>>80865034
Well it's not working.
>>80865074
Emphasis on "expect"
>>80864791
Huh, not 1:1, but yeah, I might believe T'challa and Natasha being in favor of using the precog. Hulk too, both Chulk (is that still a thing?) or Bruce. And Matt would work much better than Jan as a lawyer that is okay with stopping crimes before they happen.
A few questions:
Who is the guy between Tony and Falcon here >>80863215 and who is the girl with a red hood between Luke and Matt?
And who is the big eared guy above Hawkguy here >>80863201
>>80865097
The guy I think it's herc.
Don't know who big ears is.
>>80863177
Why does Tony's new helme always look totally different every time?
>>80865143
The headgear does remind me of Herc... but the little visor thing would be extra stupid on him.
You know , Herc is actually another that would be okay with using the precog to prevent crimes. Greeks were all about having oracles warn you about the future.
>>80865245
And the Aesir are pretty much the poster child of "cause it by trying to prevent it"
>>80863177
It's Civil War. None of this shot makes any sense.
>>80864603
Tony wasn't a Skrull, but after that they rebooted his brain and he was sad when learning about the things he did in the past
>>80863177
Did no-one at Marvel watch Minority Report. Did they literally have nothing better to fight over than Future Crime.
Why is someone that's meant to symbolize and represent American freedominb4 >american freedomsupporting arresting people before they do anything that breaks the law.
Why would Spiderman be on Future Crime side after all the side with SpOck.
Why in the ever loving fuck is Quill involved.
Why.
How did they manage a worse premise than the original Civil War.
>>80865097
Sides thing where I got the pic from says this;
Pro-FutureCrime:
Monica Rambeau
She-Hulk
Ant-Man
The Winter Soldier
Hawkeye
Blue Marvel
Medusa
Captain America (Steve Rogers)
The Vision
War Machine
Spider-Man
Anti-FutureCrime:
Black Widow
Deadpool
Captain America (Sam Wilson)
The Totally Awesome Hulk (Amadeus Cho)
Hercules
Black Panther
Luke Cage
Thor (Jane Foster)
America Chavez
Star-Lord
Daredevil
>>80863876
>this time the argument is about a Mutant (or inhuman I can't remember and it doesn't matter because they're basically the same thing) who can predict the future with crazy good accuracy. Captain Marvel and her goons want to use the power to catch criminals before they can act.
Seems like a pretty good reason to me.
If they have the means to stop another 9/11 BEFORE it happens, then they have a moral obligation to use it.
If some guy is going to kill a dozen people in a workplace shooting, then his personal rights should be inconsequential compared to the amount of lives that would be saved. Needs of the many and whatnot
>>80865351
>Why in the ever loving fuck is Quill involved.
MCU
>>80865351
Wouldn't the smarter option just be to monitor the precog's suspect extremely close, preferably with a teleporter of Cloak's caliber?
If it looks like they're gonna fuck shit up royal, THEN spring the trap... I just hate how pre-crime is treated as an absolute all the time. No shades of gray or even sensible caution allowed.
>>80863177
>Steve is back
Wait what? I thought he was old as fuck, did he get young again?
>>80865464
Like that was ever gonna stick
>>80865351
>Did no-one at Marvel watch Minority Report.
Where do you think they got the idea from? It's not like they're the House of Ideas anymore.
>Why is someone that's meant to symbolize and represent American freedom supporting arresting people before they do anything that breaks the law.
Because it's a marvel event and it's Bendis. Everybody will be OOC
>Why would Spiderman be on Future Crime side after all the side with SpOck.
See above. Maybe he'll change sides later since some people will have to.
>Why in the ever loving fuck is Quill involved.
GOTG was a popular movie.
>How did they manage a worse premise than the original Civil War.
Bendis, and they literally came up with the idea in 3-4 months to rush this event out in time for the movie.
>>80865484
how did they reverse it?
>>80865396
But we know one hundred percent that the next 9/11, the next Paris, next San Bernadino will be committed by Muslims, so we can stop another 9/11 before it happens by deporting them. Of course many good innocent people would also be deported, but they would still be alive and free and able to start a new life, while the many good innocent people killed in the next 9/11 will just be dead. So maybe stopping Islamic immigration is a good thing according to your FurtureCrime hypothesis.
>>80865386
wait wait wait. Jane Foster is Thor?!
>>80863201
>Lawful Good
>>80863215
Justice Good
>>80865351
Maybe that's the twist, they fight over idiotic things but don't pay attention to important things and all is a precuel to Civil War Trump described before in this thread
>>80865565
Those are the same alignment sir!
>>80865603
That's like saying Superman and Batman are the same character.
>>80865548
>So maybe stopping Islamic immigration is a good thing
No "maybes" about that.
I realize you would just love to have more jets flying into buildings, but if there's a chance to prevent stuff like that, I'm not going to apologize for being 110% behind it
>>80865628
Superman is Lawful Good.
Batman is Chaotic Good.
We've been over this.
>>80865633
We are in agreement then. MAGA my brother.
>>80865650
That's the fucking point.
I can't believe no one's noticed that the setup of the story provides a perfect out for zero status quo changes. Civil War 2 could be nothing more than a play by play of the pre-cog's future vision and the story ends with him killing himself or something.
>>80865419
>>80865396
How about something as simple as pre-emptively having the cops be at the location where the crime is to take place?
>>80865314
Yeah, which would make having Thor on Tonys side something reasonable. But Whor is not an Aesir, does not have that bias, and possibly having a precog could have allowed her to know about the cancer early enough to fioght it, so she could be on Carols side.
Or really she could make sense on any side, she doesn't have much personality to guide her on this type of stuff.
>>80865717
>I can't believe no one's noticed that the setup of the story provides a perfect out for zero status quo changes. Civil War 2 could be nothing more than a play by play of the pre-cog's future vision and the story ends with him killing himself or something.
That's the worst shit they could write.
I'm now 80% sure this will happen.
>>80865351
You seriously still think the Guardians aren't going to be involved in every single event from now on? They're Marvel's fourth franchise behind Avengers, Spidey and X-Men. No way they'll miss anything from now on.
>>80865650
>Superman is Lawful Good.
Haha no superman is neutral good.
Capt Atom is lawful good.
>>80863258
TWO MORE DAYS
>>80865386
Why the fuck are Steve and Spider-Man in favor of this? Why the fuck is Peter Quill part of this whole petty earthen bullshit instead of dealing with cosmic threats? Why the hell are we rethreading the same story AGAIN after only 10 years?
Fuck you Marvel. How low and uncreative can you get? Are you going to do a Siege on Wakanda next time? Maybe an Avengers Vs Inhumans?
>>80865867
Captain Atom is Lawful neutral.
>>80863201
>>80863215
What, no Dr Strange? He's not going to be featured in the summer's editorial mandate event of the year his movie comes out?
Could it be that they are being true to his character instead of forcing it for the sake of advertising? Quite unexpected to see integrity from Marvel's part in this day and age.
>>80863215
>AMERICA
Fucking really? You just HAVE to include that cunt in everything now, Marvel?
>>80863876
>>80865396
Yeah, the difference being, they're taking it too far. Like in Civil War 1, Tony had the right idea, but was just a dick about it.
The thing to do is setup an Agency that catches people IN THE ACT of commiting a crime. If you know something is going to happen, and have enough time, you can setup cameras, tape them starting to commit a crime, and have an approriate response team in place to stop them. Second 9/11 going to happen? Give me the planes their going to be on, and oh hey, everyone on those planes who isn't a terrorist is an agent of shield and Thor is there.
There is a difference between catching someone in the act, and catching someone before they act.
Will Bendis take this in a nuanced way? Doubtful.
>>80866301
Don't be silly anon, they're saving him for a big mandated event closer to his movie.
>>80866301
Probably keeping him and his book out of it so they can have a crossover closer to his movie.
>>80863989
A nuclear device goes off in New York. All sixty thousand superheroes that live in New York in the Marvel universe are dead. The few remaining have to work out who set them up the bomb
>>80864397
>>cap
Soldier, Literally guantanamo and war on terrorism
>>bucky
Same shit
>>she hulk
No way
>>spiderman
No way
>>all okay with imprisoning people before a crime was committed
>>80866301
>>80866432
Magic crossover in the fall you wait and see, building on the death of magic stuff
This all sounds so stupid I'm not even sure I want to take a closer look.
Surely if someone can predict a crime before it happens there are multiple ways using that information other than just locking the person up.
>>80864067
>Plus I seriously doubt this is the first person they've encountered in all their years with "future seeing" as a power.
>Hell Spiderman is capable of it according to one what-if, with a little training.
Speaking of Spider-Man and "future seeing" powers, that was Madam Web's entire shtick.
>>80866620
>building on the death of magic stuff
And the MCU synergy train doesn't stop! Next on 616, Asgardians admit to be high tech alien race and that early humans are the ones that thought them to be gods.
>>80863177
>"I thought the punishment happened after the crime... This isn't freedom this is fear." -captain america
Way to fucking go bendis.
>>80863989
In a few years, it's going to be another infinity gauntlet event, as this Civil War 2 was purely made for the movie, like rage of ultron was released early for age of intron
>>80866804
Wasn't that the explanation for 1610 Asgard?
What is even the issue here? The dyke cries for more diversity? Miles join a camp then Venom Blast Galactus?
Why is Captain Marvel the leader? This character is a complete no name and I'm sure no one really care about her.
>>80863215
what is deadpool even doing here.
At least he was (sort of) neutral in the first civil war
>>80867090
He just had a super popular movie anon. Characterization doesn't matter in the face of marketing
>>80867154
I think the people who make sense, in character, who would be for future crime stopping, are Medusa, War machine, Vision(logical to prevent lose of life), maybe Pym (if only I had been stopped from creating Ultron) and Maybe Bucky? Carol herself I don't even know why she would care.
Cap, no, Shulkie, no, Hawkeye, no, Spidey, no, who are the black people in the shot? The chick from next wave and Luke cage? I doubt Luke would be for it, and don't really know much about the others character.
>>80867127
He's a merc and Tony has the most money?
(though I'm sure your reason is the actual one)
>>80867127
fucking marketing man. Atleast TRY to not feel it so forced. It's like the crossover between Avengers and Attack On Titan
>>80867308
Star Lord being there, or being part of every other event since the movie, didn't clue you in about how marketing rules Marvel?
>>80863876
Can't they just detain the guy for like six hours that includes the period the crime is supposed to occur, then release him (with some compensation given that he hadn't actually done anything wrong yet)?
Either that or you can make a lot of arrests for Conspiracy to Commit [Insert Crime], for incidents that aren't manslaughter or other unplanned crime; just make sure you arrest them after they've committed to the idea but before they actually commit the crime they're planning to commit.
>>80867408
Yeah turn up to stop them as they are preparing or just before they get to the crime scene.
Of course it can go further. How many crimes could be solved by just getting the person some help before hand. A few "impulse" crimes could probably be stopped by just saying or doing something nice for the person so they are in a different frame of mind that day.
>rehash an old event with the premise of an old movie
>don't even get the sides right
I go in expecting nothing but bad things and somehow Marvel still manages to surprise me with every new event in how bad it can get
Are you ready for the pages that are gonna be posted constantly from every issue? I bet like at least 4 pages an issue get meme'd to death
>>80867390
You're not very good at this whole reading comprehension thing, are you? He jut wants it to be less blatantly obvious, not that he didn't now it existed.
>>80867735
>an old movie
Book, by the same name, by Philip K. Dick
Why doesn't Reed Richards just design a gun that shoots a bullet through a wormhole based on data from the precogs mind and then the bullet his the person about to the commit the crime in the back of the head 0.0001 seconds before it happens?
>>80867823
Reed is too busy being a god and a good father, and fucking Sue's brains out at the moment.
>>80867887
Man, really? Last I remember he was leading an army of of his genetically engineered children in a war of extinction against the entire human race and had stretched his mind to keep up with them in thinking so his head looked like The Leader.
>>80867921
That was ultimate Reed.
>>80867921
That was a different guy, sort of.
They're probably gonna fucking kill someone close to Captain marvel, probably something to do with spiderwoman and her kid, that'd get spiderman in the ball as well, kinda.
>>80866731
Madam web is full of shit though, all of them
>HURRDURR IF SPIDERMAN KILLS EVEN ONE PERSON THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE WILL BE FUCKED!
>>80868237
War Machine is getting killed off.
How much of a Trump allegory will this be?
>>80864397
How else would they make Carol look like an imposing threat?
>>80866400
Maybe Bendis take the story that way, and they are fighting because if you prepare for something you change the future and maybe that leads to something bad or whatever
>>80868289
Of course he fucking is, because MOVIE!
>>80863201
>>80863215
fuck bendis so fucking much
>>80866535
And just before the end of the event when the heroes are scratching their heads and can't figure out who the hell it is, Deus Ex Reed Richards will open a dimensional rift and reveal that he saved everyone in New York from the nuke using some crazy time space device plus his new god powers and then hand on a silver platter to the heroes who did it (who everyone reading will know was a hero everyone trusted who was actually a villain the whole time, someone like Amadeus Cho, who's been bad since the beginning) then after 3 more issues of a huge brawl and tracking Cho, it'll be revealed during the "final" confrontation that Cho Hulk was actually a fake the whole time and the real Cho is in a cryo storage chamber, thus saving the status quo. The real mastermind will then be revealed to be Red Skull or Magneto or some other overused villain and Cho will be freed and be the one to deliver the final blow in righteous justice. Thus the heroes win and the status quo remains completely unchanged, rendering the event null. Now shut up and give us all your money for all our tie in books. Whether you like it or not, you'll do it anyway.
>>80867663
Most of those crimes, perhaps most in general, could be stopped by simply having someone stop by and say 'we know what you are thinking, do not do it'. Who is going to go rob a store after the cops tell them they know he will and are waiting for him?
One incidence like that would likely change a criminal to non-criminal in many cases. Not to mention, as you suggest, that most impulse crimes could be stopped straight out just by letting them know they are going to HAVE the impulse at X time and to be prepared for it.
>>80863215
>>80863201
why does this feel like this was done on a draft system
fuck, I know Luke Cage wouldn't be done for FutureCrime but the last time this happened, Iron Man's side sent an entire hit squad to his apartment the second the clock struck midnight
and I know Black Widow would be down to neutralizing threats before they could endanger people, that's her whole fucking job as a spy
>>80868538
Welcome to the entire point of Minority Report, a movie that came out 14 years ago that CW2 is super duper not ripping off like lazy asshats.
>>80865396
But what if the prediction is about something 5 or even 10 years down the line. Do you think it would be right to arrest or even kill the person in question just because they will do something way down the line? Would it be justified? What if just by knowledge of the event it changes, time is not linear and ever changing in theory. The ripple might be worse than the initial crime. What if by killing this man now because he might kill someone in 5 years causes his wife or daughter to go nuts and then they become the next victim of the system. By stopping these crimes, are you actually saving anyone, or are you just creating more criminals? Are you the cure, or the catalyst?
>>80870352
LOL srsly Bendis? Double LOL
>>80865867
Superman is as LG as it gets. Just because he doesn't follow actual laws to a strict T doesn't make him not LG. Lawful is a representation of order and rigidity, but also personal codes of conduct. Superman is a Good man, who follows a very tight code he has imposed upon himself. Thus, he is Lawful Good.
>>80870352
Does this meanTom Cruisewill replace RDJ in future movies?
>>80863177
Why is MCU Cap so much better than current comics Cap?
>>80870588
Because movie Cap is written by actual fans of comics and Cap.
>>80870650
>written by actual fans of comics
I thought this was a bad thing? I always hear /co/ whine about it.Not that the Cap movies are good though
>>80870692
>spoiler
>>80866133
underrated post
>>80870588
Because he's a blond blue-eyed cis white heterosexual male.
aka the most endangered, and hated, species in comics in 2016
>>80866301
They're staying true to the first Civil War where Strange spent the ENTIRE event hanging out in the Arctic with The Watcher.
>>80866183
One side is Bendis's toys and the other is just random.
>>80866593
Wasn't Cap against this very thing in Winter Soldier?
>>80865511
Didn't yet, it'll happen in Standoff.
>>80870848
>aka the most endangered, and hated, species in comics in 2016
Kek fags like you are just as bad as sjw's
>>80865386
I looked up America Chavez because I had no idea who that was. She's a gay latino superhero named Miss America.
When is this shit gonna end, when every single character in marvel is a female gay black/latino trans furry? Isn't that going to mean the end of the human race in the MU since no one will be procreating anymore?
>>80870588
Because the movies aren't written by Bendis.
>>80871238
Yes, cap stands against injustice in all forms, but has always been a bastion of hope and a staunch defender of personal choice. It is as out of character for him to be pro minority reporting people as it was for Spider Man to do what he did during OMD. I.E. he's effectively a completely different person for the sake of muh Cap vs. Iron Man and muh MCU parallel.
>>80863177
It's almost as if Bendis doesn't know anything about the characters he writes.
>>80871573
>It's almost as if Bendis doesn't know anything.
There, I fixed it for you anon.
>>80863177
Steve is the Beast of the Avengers, It doesn't matter what stance on what issue Tony takes up, Steve will be on the opposite side calling Tony "Hitler"
>>80863258
Spidey's reaction sums it all up.
>>80863201
>All the guys Bendis slaughtered in Avengers Disassembled
Vs
>>80863215
>Luke Cage, Star-Lord, Daredevil & Iron Man
how many issues is this epic beatdown supposed to last.
>>80864397
The funny thing is people will see the movie then look at this and think...what the fuck?
Cap, Bucky, She-Hulk...the people who would oppose such a measure, supporting it.
That's like Doctor Strange and Scarlet Witch supporting banning magic.
>>80863201
Cap and Spidey would never be part of a thoughtcrime crew. This is stupid and horrible. Everything about this is wrong.
The only people who would convinvingly be on this team are Tony Stark, The Vision, Black Widow, Reed Richards, Carol Danvers, Maria Hill, etc, the autist crew.
>>80864010
>Spidey sells his company
>Mephisto Industries sweeps the nation
>>80868359
Well, when you consider that the FIRST Civil War was done to bash Bush by having everything pure and good about the USA, Captain America side against him, Id say its more than likely that Marvel would try to push a leftist agenda again
>Civil War sequel
>written by Bendis
>expecting people not to be horribly out of character
>>80872282
>Marvel
>bashing on Bush
Is this real? Why is Marvel so desperate? Like, i don't want to start a corporate war but this is ridiculous.
>>80863493
Actually she looks like Tasha Yar.
>>80872647
this isn't even desperate, it's just lazy. they said themselves this event was 'months in the making, not years' and they just wanted a tie-in event that could act like a pseudo-sequal to the movie
>>80863201
Is that Blue Marvel to the right of Bucky? If so, how does Tony's side even have a chance?
>>80863989
Would be that event(minus spidey and cap bullshit and better team)but the final is the girl who see the future doesn't see the future it all a plan of captain marvel to make all wonderfull and arrest perdón who didn't like
>>80872845
A Superman-like character? Just let me at him!
>>80863989
I'd call it the "Bendis End Us" event in which I actively work to unmake his creations.
>>80871554
was she gay before Gillen's Young Avengers? I feel that shouldn't count since everyone is fucking gay in a Gillen book and they just can't take it back without taking shit for it
I hate the short hair on Carol, why can't she go back to her long hair, and not look like a dyke? For Pete sake, her hair isn't even up to regulations.
>>80872647
They just want money
Civil War movie is coming out and Civil War is their best trades so they felt the need to make a sequel and rush to get it out by the movie.
>>80872971
she literally comes from the lesbian dimension.
>>80873015
long hair goes to whoever's holding the title of Ms. Marvel.
>>80873016
*best selling
It's almost always in the top 5 each year for them
>>80864067
remember Destiny, the chick Mystique used to bang?
>>80873015
nah, fuck you
>>80863989
Civil War III: Cyclops vs Everyone.
Cyclops wants to do a thing and announces it in a press conference. This divides the superhero community into two teams.
Cyclops, and literally everyone else. Now Cyclops must use his strategic mind, eye punch beams, and a whole lot of scifi tech he stole from the x-mansion in order to do the thing.
>>80870692
Depends on the degree of possessiveness, I think, and it helps that they're crafting a totally new canon out of their favorite elements. What made "One More Day" especially atrocious was that it's main writer, as a fan, wanted to revel in his fandom by resetting the clock so he could write "his" favorite Spider-Man. He was a fan of Spider-Man back when he was a bachelor, BOOM, years of continuity stripped away.
Thankfully MCU Cap isn't dragged down by that BS and can mess the status-quo pretty convincingly. I trust the Russo's and McMarkus to know the difference between serving one fan , themselves, and serving all other fans as best they can.
>>80867797
The short story (it's below 20 pages, if I remember right) was actually even crazier than the movie.
>>80873356
how so?
>>80873356
Few filmmakers can actually grasp the PKDverse, and Spielberg is not one of them.
>>80863989
Okay, hear me out here.
So, our new event starts with Carol having a party with her friends at Alpha Flight. One of the cadets offers her a beer. While Carol normally is a teetotaler, she decides to drink anyway. As soon as her lips touch the alcohol, she suddenly flies into a blind rage, killing every Alpha Flight member.
The Avengers believe something broke her psyche when she drunk the alcohol, so Dr. Strange volunteers to enter Carol's mind and figure out the cause. He eventually finds the root of the problem: despite Strange knowing Carol for his entire career as this Wonder Woman-like figure, she was actually once a loud-mouthed, alcoholic, fascist, bloodthirsty Captain Marvel. However, using a fragment of the Cosmic Cube, her personality was wiped clean and her history erased.
The culprit turns out to be Mojo, the intergalactic TV executive. Unbeknownst to the Avengers, their lives are constantly recorded and presented to the rest of the world as a reality show. However, viewership has been slowly declining, forcing Mojo to use the Cube to "change" the show, to have it appeal to a wider audience.
It's shown what exactly these "changes" include: turning Iron Man from an alcoholic Walt Disney to Robert Downey Jr, making Thor unworthy of Mjolnir and having Jane take it up for more female diversity, Peter Parker losing his marriage and his mind to Doc Ock, Star Lord changing from a respectable soldier to Chris Pratt, adults like Patsy Walker and Dorreen Green suddenly now acting like quirky teenagers, causing heroes to constantly fight other heroes, the elimination of the X-Men and Fantastic Four because they didn't have the rights for them, and so on and so forth.
It becomes like Civil War, where it's heroes who hate that their lives where changed without consent verses ones whose lives were improved by the changes.
At the end of the event, the winning group kills Mojo. Meanwhile, in the real world, Bendis suddenly has a massive nosebleed.
>>80863876
Do we have it confirmed that this is Minority Report and not the time is still broken and doesn't need you fucking with it idea?
>>80863215
>>80863177
Who is that between Sam and Tony?
>>80873829
the best case scenario is that it's both. Team Carol is pro-minority report. Team Iron Man is pro-'Homer is a walking temporal paradox and tyhe X-Men have seen first hand that getting too pro-active with future prevents leads to its own nightmare future'
>>80864643
>>80864471
I can't wait till he gets destroyed in the worst landslide since Reagan.
Why are they fighting about this time?
>>80873872
Herakles. After a mid-life crisis he realized that he was becoming irrelevant in the modern age because all he did was drink, fuck, wrestle crocodile-things in the streets and get called into court for another public indecency hearing.
So he decided to get with the times, update his arsenal, and go heroing again properly. For whatever reason this includes a DBZ scouter that doesn't seem to do anything.
>>80871475
>Steve with the shield again
PLEASE
>>80873949
>>80872845
He doesn't.
There are only two sides in any Marvel conflict. Captain America's side and the WRONG side.
>>80872445
Bush was the President during Civil War, wasn't he? The Registration was part of his tenure, wasn't it? Captain America sided AGAINST it, didnt he?
The answers are yes, yes and yes of course.
Cap says the Registration is bad, therefore Marvel was using him as their mouthpiece. Because Captain America, the purest of the pure can never be wrong
>>80874244
yeah, it was pretty blatantly inspired by the war on terror, including being sparked by a high profile terrorist attack the facts of which her ignored for the sake of fearmongering
>>80874311
Or so a traditionally left wing biased media would have you believe.
>>80874438
Marvel is a traditionally left wing biased company, yes
>>80874244
>Cap says the Registration is bad, therefore Marvel was using him as their mouthpiece
Actually the Pro-Reg side was suppose to be in the right and the side everyone cheers for and sides with. That's why they had the survivors of 9/11 stop Cap and say he's evil.
It's jut that other writers and fans sided with Cap instead.
It's hilarious because this really pissed off Joe Quesada was Pissed that people sided with Cap. He was also angry that people (and some writers) didn't like that reporter check who said Cap didn't get America because he's doesn't know about NASCAR and stuff.
>>80875009
>Joe Quesada
Him, Brevoot, and Bendis need to go.
>>80875098
agreed
>>80863177
I wonder if they're gonna do a late-night interview about this. I remember Quesada showing up on Colbert to talk about Civil War and saying how the Marvel universe takes place in the real world and that Cap and Iron Man were taking on real world problems...It was mildly entertaining.
>>80863258
Man.
Remember when comics were usually the vanguard for new ideas in storytelling? Back when they could do stuff that was relatively new and exciting, and everyone was hyped because, even if it didn't turn out the best, at least it was something new-ish and exciting?
And it wasn't just this weird media ouroboros with the movies taking the best part of the comics, and the comics just copying the movies?
I would honestly prefer something like the original Civil War over this.
The first one sucked, but at least it tried to be something on its own.
>>80873934
>says increasingly nervous man for sixth time
>>80863989
earthquake in the indian ocean
some powerful telekinetic mutant (exodus, quentin quire, someone like that) stops the waves, saves millions of lives, and dies because of the huge effort.
Cyclops says that now the world is in debt to mutants, and invades the island of madripoor, setting up a rogue mutant state there.
some avengers are willing to tolerate it, some not
and the mutants have something like an Israeli war of self defense
they win and are recognized by the usa and china
>>80863989
I don't know what the event would be, exactly, but it would be huge, and cosmic, and cataclysmic, and nobody will have plot armor.
At the end of it, each and every single main Marvel hero's story will be satisfactorily wrapped up and ended, and the Marvel multiverse, and the 616 universe specifically, will completely cease to be.
After that point, Marvel will once again become an anthology/short story producer, like it was during the Golden and some of the Silver age.
Because, really, at this point, literally anything would be better than the tail chasing it's been going through for the last decade or so.
>>80863177
Did they run out of villains to fight again?
>>80873057
that comic is too awesome DESU
