BASED SNYDER, BASED BATS, BASED SUPES, BASED TERRIO, BASED EVERYTHING.
>>80656430
Article sauce?
>>80656456
Dude it literally just came out from Wall street journal, interview with Zack.
>>80656499
people are posting pics of the article on twitter
>>80656568
https://twitter.com/ChrisRa7en
>>80656430
>Superman is going to do Superman stuff
Visionary. Clearly this man has a much more nuanced view of this character than anyone else. He must had been hitting those comic books hard!
Do you think that Snyder will even include the really obscure things, like the fact that Superman shoots lasers from his eyes? He's such a geek that he just might!
>>80656430
screw the good guys bad guys got candy
>>80656430
>Superman is a good guy
Truly a mastermind.
>>80656430
Snyder talks a big game. He did the same thing for MoS. Don't tell me fucko. Show me. I'm the easiest person in the world to manipulate emotionally, and all MoS left me feeling was grateful that Superman doesn't exist. I made the mistake of listening to his talk before MoS. I refuse to this time around. If he gives me a better movie in BvS, I'll be thrilled to admit I was wrong, but if he says all these wonderful things, yet shits the bed again, I'll only feel further vindicated for wanting him replaced, because all the aspirations in the world don't count for shit if he can't make a movie that conveys them.
Just give me Supeman snapping Batman's neck and I'm good. Fuck these faggots whinning about
>Muh Superman
These people literraly want Superman to be a government stooge so Batman can beat on him and seem like TOTALLY COOL REBEL GUY.
>>80656430
>angelic figure, bathed in light
Can't wait for more subtle church scenes
Grow up, OP. The man is a hack.
I just want reviews to get out already. I was this hopeful for MoS and got spurned. I want to believe Terrio and Affleck made that much a difference.
>>80657876
Why?
Reviews are always irrelevant.
Bribes, clickbait...
>>80657876
dude, several semi-reviews say the movie is good
>>80657892
Oh right, cause MoS was a masterpiece and totally didn't deserve the mixed to bad reviews.
I love how delusional snyderfags are
>>80657930
it was a masterpiece.
>>80657789
Snyder is so heavy on all this holy figure thing, and it's not just about Superman
Only today i was reminded of that one scene in Watchman where Nite Owl and Silk are saving those people from a fire and a little girl goes
>Mom, the guy in the spaceship, is he... Jeeeesus?
But for the life of me i can't remember if that was in the comic too, so maybe i'm pointing fingers at the wrong person
They sound so desperate to move away from the MoS Superman, lol.
>>80657973
yet Snyder SPECIFICALLY said he wasn't backtracking from MOS, he always planned to have Superman advance from his first day being a superhero in MOS. but keep being delusional.
>>80657398
Suicide Squad had too much style, it makes BvS look bland and boring.
>>80657973
But they aren't moving away from it.
He was extremely heroic in mos.
Being concerned and given pause that he may cause more harm then good doesn't lessen his heroism.
>>80658069
>The story is supposed to feel unfinished and unsatisfying! The movie ended on a lighthearted note because they totally wanted to make a point that Superman wasn't a perfect hero yet, and the Metropolis situation wasn't destruction porn at all because what happened was always going to be addressed in the "sequel" coming 3 years later featuring Batman and pretty much the whole JL
>>80657892
Rotten Tomato aggregate scores are good for a general warning sign. It's harder to tell if the movie is good when it's above the 70 percent range, but anything below you know there's problems.
>>80657924
need the impressions of the common masses. I'm just being unreasonable right now and wish this was the week it's out.
>>80657753
>These people literraly want Superman to be a government stooge so Batman can beat on him and seem like TOTALLY COOL REBEL GUY.
I don't think so, Tim.
>>80657333
Shitposting aside, one of the many complaints shitposters like yourself had about Man of Steel is how "he never saved anyone". That's one less shitpost to worry about for BvS.
>>80657333
yes. it was in the previous movies and some trailers for this one as well, don't you pay attention bro?
>>80656430
WSJ right? Any pastebins?
>Superman is a hero
Jesus, fill all my holes Snyder you beautiful genius. Truly revolutionary
12 days left until I see this movie. 12 goddamn days after almost 3 years.
>>80658345
Have fun with capeshit movie #09830481
>>80658272
And here's the strawmanning brigade, next you'll tell me "shitposters" only disliked MoS because they expected Superman to be perfect and flawless as opposed to the complex character that Snyder&Goyer offered
>>80658425
>responds to strawman with a strawman
Brilliant work
>>80658466
It's not a strawman though, MoS apologists are fixated on "muh superman", they even blame all the bad reviews on Donner nostalgia
>>80658595
>defends posting a strawman with literally another strawman
The sooner you convince yourself that you're not arguing against an archetype of people and instead individuals who disagree with you, the sooner you'll make sense of what's happening around you
>>80658466
>>80658646
I made a joke, calm your tits you all
>>80657952
It was in the comic.
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>>80659085
Ok, i have to take that back then. Sorry for that, ZackWatchmen still isn't that good of an adaptation tho
>>80659147
Kek
The reason people didn't like Watchmen the movie is because the comic work itself wasn't very good. Best part about it was the interlude with the black kid reading the comic. Easily Moore's weakest work.
>>80657789
>still butthurt about one scene that only your autism managed to notice
>>>/tv/
>>80656430
who rescues people from fires..." yeah, taking his sweet time to do it. remember the blur in smallville and then again in flash? saved so many people so fucking fast they cant even see him. but now he even have time to pose, sweet! and now what? bats is gonna break some fuckers neck and use guns just to prove that man of steel was right and if you are serving justice is ok to cross the line.
>>80656430
>getting an elementary aspect of the character right
>based
It really says something about how low our expectations are after MoS that we're impressed by something obvious like this
>>80656430
>Angelic figure, bathed in light
Can't wait for the scene where Superman has the moon around his head forming a halo while Batman stands in the dark in his shadow.
So deep.
>>80656430
Dumping article
>‘Batman v Superman’ is another superhero sequel. It’s a clash of cultural icons. It’s about the politics of military intervention and terrorism. It’s inspired by W.H. Auden and Umberto Eco. It’s the highest-stakes movie produced by a Hollywood studio since James Cameron’s “Avatar.”
>“Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice,” opening March 25, is all these things and more: a 2½-hour, $250 million collection of Hollywood contradictions that could rise above the din of comic book adaptations or sink under its own bloated weight.
>On its face, the movie seems like the most cynical of exercises: How to follow up 2013’s “Man of Steel,” which received mixed critical reviews, mixed reactions from fans and mixed results at the box office? (With $668 million being, by big-budget superhero standards, not all that impressive these days.)
>The answer: Make the follow-up even bigger! Bring back Batman, last seen in Christopher Nolan’s 2012, trilogy-ending “The Dark Knight Rises.” Cast Ben Affleck as the caped crusader! Make them fight! But why just two superheroes? Let’s introduce Wonder Woman! And give brief glimpses of characters like Aquaman, Cyborg and Flash, who will soon get their own movies.
>It’s not just a sequel and not just a superhero Battle Royal. It’s the launch of a new “cinematic universe,” Hollywood-speak for a series of interconnected movies in which characters coexist and stories interweave. Disney’s Marvel pioneered the concept to great success and now Warner Bros. has boldly announced 10 DC movies to be released over the next five years.
>All of those films flow out of the plot and characters established in “Batman v Superman.” If any of them are going to work, and Warner’s multibillion-dollar plan is to succeed, this one has to be a hit.
>“While each movie stands alone, they’re all part of one long arc of storytelling,” said producer Charles Roven. No pressure, in other words.
>“Batman v Superman” comes amid hints that audiences are tiring of traditional superhero films. The last two releases were August’s mega-flop “Fantastic Four” and last month’s surprise blockbuster “Deadpool,” which succeeded by sending up every convention of the genre.
>In contrast to “Deadpool,” “Batman v Superman” is deadly serious, continuing a pattern set in “Batman Begins” of trying to ground DC movies in what Warner production chief Greg Silverman calls “the big emotions of the human experience.” “Fun” and “family-friendly” won’t be the first words most people use after seeing a film that’s more revenge tragedy than brainless slugfest.
>>80660281
yeah I bet your comics are way better written
>Still, audience interest is strong two weeks ahead of the picture’s debut, with research indicating it will open to about $140 million— perhaps slightly above the minimum Warner needs to declare it a bona fide blockbuster.
>When kicking off the equivalent of a five-year plan, one might expect the studio to keep a dictatorial grip on the creative process. But though it’s the industry’s biggest studio, Warner has also earned a reputation as the most accommodating to filmmakers.
>It’s the studio that last year allowed George Miller to soar with “Mad Max: Fury Road” and the Wachowskis to crash and burn with “Jupiter Ascending.” It has been the home of “Man of Steel” director Zack Snyder for a decade, through hits like “300” and flops like “Sucker Punch.”
>On “Batman v Superman,” Warner paired Mr. Snyder with Chris Terrio, the “brilliant, brilliant, complicated”—in the words of Mr. Roven—Oscar-winning writer of “Argo,” who did a major rewrite of the script (he shares credit with “Man of Steel” writer David Goyer).
>Mr. Terrio is a former student of British literature and phenomenology who dropped out of a masters program at Cambridge University to study film. On his first big-budget movie, he cites as influences not just Frank Miller’s seminal comic-book miniseries “The Dark Knight Returns” (which features its own Batman-Superman battle) and Mr. Nolan’s trilogy of Batman films. He also invokes Italian semiotician Umberto Eco’s 1972 essay “The Myth of Superman” and the W.H. Auden poem “Musée des Beaux Arts,” which contrasts the quotidian details of normal people’s lives with the epic struggles of mythological figures.
>“Given the scale, you would think the whole thing has a corporate stench, but the way we worked there was this quality of, ‘I can’t believe they’re letting us do this,’ ” Mr. Terrio said.
>The screenwriter went to great lengths to establish the movie’s titular conflict as more than the traditional comic-book gimmick of two superheroes tricked by a villain.
>“Batman v Superman’s” opening sequence replays the final moments of “Man of Steel,” a sky-high brawl between Superman and Kryptonian villain General Zod, from the perspective of a civilian on the ground: Bruce Wayne.
>In the 2012 movie, the scene was widely panned for portraying Superman as too violent and unconcerned about collateral damage. Mr. Affleck’s character agrees, drawing implicit comparisons to military drones and even 9-11 as he impotently watches the destruction of a Wayne Enterprises building in which his employees are maimed and die.
>The likening of Henry Cavill’s Superman to a self-righteous military interventionist continues when he rescues Amy Adams’s Lois Lane from a reporting trip gone wrong in Africa. He is blamed for more collateral damage there.
>Mr. Affleck’s Batman, on the other hand, makes Christian Bale’s version of the character in Mr. Nolan’s movies look like a pushover. A grizzled 40-something who seems on the verge of retirement, death or a mental breakdown, he literally brands enemies with the symbol of a bat and scares police as much as criminals. Clark Kent accuses him of a “reign of terror” in Gotham City.
>“In superhero stories, Batman is Pluto, god of the underworld, and Superman is Apollo, god of the sky,” observed Mr. Terrio. “That began to be really interesting to me—that their conflict is not just due to manipulation, but their very existence.”
>“Batman v Superman” is still an “event” movie, meaning it features plenty of over-the-top action scenes, shot in Mr. Snyder’s trademark hyper-stylized manner. It also features an uber-bad guy in the form of Jesse Eisenberg’s Lex Luthor, reimagined as a young tech billionaire who can’t stand being upstaged by superheroes: Think Mark Zuckerberg (whom Mr. Eisenberg played in “The Social Network”) with a psychopathic streak.
>Israeli actress Gal Gadot’s Wonder Woman, meanwhile, is a centuries-old mythological heroine who is drawn into Batman and Superman’s conflict. Like every superhero here, she already exists in the world—so no origin story is needed. “If you bring in a character in a kinetic way, then you accept the reality more easily,” said Mr. Terrio.
>The same approach will largely be followed in future DC films, said Mr. Roven. August’s “Suicide Squad” features a team of veteran villains. While next year’s Wonder Woman flashes back to the superheroine’s early days, 2018’s “Flash” and “Aquaman” will continue the characters’ stories from team-up movie “Justice League,” which opens in November of 2017.
>The end of “Batman v Superman” provides a natural starting point for “Justice League,” but the DC movies are not as tightly woven as those made by Marvel.
>“The artists are all communicating with each other,” said Mr. Silverman. “I think if you have a studio dictating where you’re going to be in six or seven years, the movies lose some of their magic.”
>Mr. Terrio recently finished his script for “Justice League,” which starts shooting next month, giving him a key role defining the big- screen versions of DC superheroes. To prepare, the writer says he studied red- and blueshifts in electromagnetic physics to think about the Flash, investigated deep sea biology in the Mariana trench to create the world of Aquaman and read the Greek historian Diodorus of Sicily’s account of the war between Amazon and Atlantis to better understand Wonder Woman.
>“If you told me the most rigorous dramaturgical and intellectual product of my life would be superhero movies, I would have said you were crazy,” the screenwriter said.
>>80661393
>>‘Batman v Superman’ is another superhero sequel. It’s a clash of cultural icons. It’s about the politics of military intervention and terrorism. It’s inspired by W.H. Auden and Umberto Eco. It’s the highest-stakes movie produced by a Hollywood studio since James Cameron’s “Avatar.”
I really hope Warner pays by the word, this guy deserves every penny of it.
>>80656430
/co/ BTFO yet again
>>80661438
>the Wachowski things
>>80661513
>“The artists are all communicating with each other,” said Mr. Silverman. “I think if you have a studio dictating where you’re going to be in six or seven years, the movies lose some of their magic.”
>>80660281
nah watcmen is way overrated but not his worst, thats either halo jones or any of his stuff past 2000
>>80658272
To be fair, the OP post is not a particularly appropriate reaction to this news, which is just an understated but genuine improvement to what happened before. An improvement by the same people who made the problem/mistake in the first place. A more rational reaction would be something like, "huh, good, this thing I didn't like has been fixed, that's neat", not a quintuple "based". It's like this thing. Broken window fallacy or something.
>an angelic figure, bathed in light
Eh, I'm not overly fond of going deep on the whole "messianic figure" angle. I always preferred a Superman who was fundamentally just a good guy who did the right thing who happens to have super powers. The boyscout from Kansas, not some weird space Jesus come to deliver us from our wretchedness or whatever.
>>80661393
>It’s about the politics of military intervention and terrorism. It’s inspired by W.H. Auden and Umberto Eco. It’s the highest-stakes movie produced by a Hollywood studio since James Cameron’s “Avatar.”
This shit is irritating as hell too. Batman v Superman may be a lot of things, as sceptical as I've been all throughout the lead up I have to admit it actually looks like it might be pretty good, but it's fundamentally a couple of cartoon characters getting in a fist fight. I don't buy all this high minded talk about it being this deep cerebral masterpiece. It just sounds like they want to find some way to market it that differentiates it from the Marvel films that embrace that they're just dumb action adventure schlock.
I mean the Nolan films were probably as close as you'd get to a "respectable" super-hero film and as good as they were they were still fundamentally just action films about a guy in a bat costume kicking the shit out of mobsters and terrorists.
>>80661513
>Mr. Terrio recently finished his script for “Justice League,” which starts shooting next month, giving him a key role defining the big- screen versions of DC superheroes. To prepare, the writer says he studied red- and blueshifts in electromagnetic physics to think about the Flash, investigated deep sea biology in the Mariana trench to create the world of Aquaman and read the Greek historian Diodorus of Sicily’s account of the war between Amazon and Atlantis to better understand Wonder Woman.
He hasn't read a single comic, has he?
>>80663469
Can you not read or
>>80663425
i like him as both. the world sees him as the space jesus but he sees himself as the small town guy from kansas
>>80665204
Yeah I like the dual natures, like he's fully both without conflict or compromise from either nature.
