ITT: /co/ villains who were technically correct, even if their plans were crazy
>>80543681
well, you need to post a pic of one first.
>>80543701
Nothing you do matters if another version of you somewhere is doing the opposite. A decision that would affect all the versions of you would be the only true decision you could ever make.
>>80543776
>Nothing you do matters
that's, like, your opinion dude. For me it matters. "matter" is subjective.
also, there was no evidence at all that what he was doing actually matters.
>>80543891
>there was no evidence at all that what he was doing actually matters.
And even if it would have, he failed.
>>80543891
He was looking at the multiverse as a whole. If every action has an equal and opposite reaction, than nothing you do matters because nothing you do changes anything, at least in his mind. Destroying everything was the only action that he could take that couldn't be 'negated' by another version of himself.
It's cool and all as motivation but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to a sound mind. Yea maybe it's the only real decision you could ever make, but that doesn't make it a GOOD decision.
>>80544152
Of course not, Owlman was a monster whose actions were driven by his ego and need to be important.
>>80544111
>He was looking at the multiverse as a whole
looking at a model of the multiverse means nothing.
>If every action has an equal and opposite reaction, than nothing you do matters because nothing you do changes anything
it's the damn story of the donkey, bro. "He heard that every action has an equal and opposite reaction, so he won't move because he would never actually be able to pull the cart". You forget that the reaction is made on ANOTHER object. The action does matter for the thing being moved. Just because there is an opposite reaction, it doesn't mean they will cancel one another.
>Destroying everything was the only action that he could take that couldn't be 'negated' by another version of himself
the issue is, it only not matter for him. For everyone else it does matter. He is just stupid enough to believe his will is somehow more important than others.
>>80544152
Hence why the OP said "technically correct" but emphasized that this didn't make it a good idea.
It's like people can't into reading comprehension.
>>80543681
>Batgods can just decide to go out and destroy the multiverse
Fuck you DC
>>80544303
Well. They can.
>>80543681
I like how batman plan was to get thrashed and make the other guy so arrogant that he would stop trying to destroy the world, is a nice oun on the batgod, the most arrogant character ever.
Kindergarten nihilism is never right though.
>>80543681
Nox
>>80544111
>If every action has an equal and opposite reaction, than nothing you do matters because nothing you do changes anything
But they establish that every action one takes creates an entirely new universe. That is a colossal change in the structure of the Multiverse.
Owlman's problem is that his worldview is too self-absorbed to allow for anything more than himself to be of any significance.
>>80543681
Maybe if you're 15.
>>80543776
But his decision wouldn't affect any other decisions. Once he makes the effort to do something, he makes other realities. The only thing he would have accomplished is killing himself.
>>80544287
>technically correct
it's not correct at all.
>>80543681
If there's an infinite number of multi-verses where there's a different outcome for every choice how come there isn't a scenario where Owlman succeeds in blowing up Earth Prime? This multi-verse shit confuses me man.
>>80543681
That wasn't even a decent interpretation of Nihilism, let alone 'technically correct'.
>>80543776
Are you a high schooler emo kid?
>>80546199
Because the moment you step in Earth-Prime, it stops being Earth-Prime.
>>80544668
Yeah, Nox sure was correct about the cube talking to him and telling him that he would be able to go back in time and save his family.
>>80543681
BaTB crime syndicate story was better. It actually sold me on the show.
>>80546199
it doesn't matter
>>80546199
because batman defeated owlman on earth prime
any earth where owlman wins is not earth prime
>inb4 morrisonfags collectively suck ozymandias's bulletproof skinned cock
>>80543681
>>80543681
Think about it this way. If he had succeeded, he would have ended all crime and suffering in not just one universe, but all of them.
What more could you ask?
>>80547235
Go to bed, Scott
>>80547235
>>80547564
>villain
>technically
>>80547235
> Implying Scott is a villain and not the hero which the Marvel Universe needs right now.
>>80546379
He was technically correct when he looked at impossibility and made all of reality bend to his whim by usibg energy from only a portion of it.
In theory, were he able to harvest a fucking massive amount of energy all at once and store it in himself, he could spend half of that energy going backwards and ending up with a net gain of energy. By repeating this action, he could harvest as much as he can contain with no loss of life or sustained damage to anyone.
The irony is the one who wanted to go back was too hasty. Also delusional.
>>80547205
Except that wasn't his goal. He in fact caused suffering intentionally because as a little boy kneeling in his parents blood he developed a fascination with death and crime causing it, rather than the aversion Bruce has.
>>80547154
>morrison
Ayyy lmao
>>80546199
It was the point where Owlman won. The fate of the multiverse hung on that one action. If he was right, there would be an alternate Owlman who destroyed the multiverse. If he was wrong all along, then his purpose for destroying the multiverse was nullified. He knew that it didn't matter to him what he did at that crucial moment because either outcome was desirable to him.
>>80544111
The only solution was to blow it all up
>>80544152
Owlman ISN'T of sound mind. Something OP clearly fails to realize.
>>80547235
Cute lil thong on
>>80548303
you know what i meant. Freudian slip
>>80543776
He obsessed over doing something that 'matters' the same way a teen obsesses over being 'different'. His decision is the same as, imagine if no one in the world could ever harm themselves, and just to 'make his own choice' he punches himself in the face. Yeah he's right but he's still an idiot.
>>80543681
He was doomed to fail from the start because he was wrong in assuming Earth Prime could ever be destroyed. He should have realized that before he even started.
Where the fuck did he even get the idea of an "Earth Prime", anyway? If Earth splits into two timelines, they're both equally tied to the previous state - You can't really say which is the "original" and which is the deviant Earth. They're both equally real.
>>80543776
>Nothing you do matters if another version of you somewhere is doing the opposite.
something mattering just means it's significant, meaning worthy of your attention. Think about it. That's literally all it means. If you think that nothing you do is worthy of your attention, just because an alternate you does it different, then you must not value the results in your own future existence. Ultimately, parallel universes should not indicate a nihilist perspective, because those are the things that "don't matter." They're parallel, meaning they're no longer part of your possible existence. It's an-ass backwards philosophical perspective, putting something that has no significance at the foremost, and something that has real, demonstrable significance as not mattering.
>>80546265
Did you even see the movie?
He even mentioned that if his plan worked out everybody and everything he killed would just come back to life
>>80544111
Too bad he failed to realize that just the act of going to Earth Prime was meaningless. By virtue of the fact that every decision creates branching paths, the original Earth Prime can never truly be touched by someone not native to it. Upon arriving on that Earth, he created two timelines: one in which he made it to that Earth, and another in which he didn't. The one in which he didn't would be Earth Prime, while the one in which he did would just be another offshoot.
If only Batman realized this, he could have saved himself a lot of trouble and spared Johnny's life.
On that note, there's now also an world in which Owlman did succeed in destroying that Earth, but it failed to do anything.
I still don't see how blowing up earth prime doesn't just create a timeline where it got blown up instead of just somehow ending all existence.
>>80551636
Like Owlman, he was doomed to fail from the start because his science was wrong.
In Nox's case it's indefensible because he didn't once across 200 years run a test to find out the Wakfu/time ratio.
>>80551679
According to the director of this movie, that's exactly what would happen. Owlman's plan would never work.
>>80551608
so yes then
>>80543776
It matters in my world, which is the only world that matters.
Whether or not de-bending people was immoral or not, massive inequality is inevitable when you have a caste of objectively superior people.
>>80543681
The best kind of correct
>>80551853
It's not like they were in a different caste but benders were obviously superior
>>80551853
Life is unfair. Only losers blame their problems on other people.
>>80551941
Benders occupied basically every top ranking government position and all of the royal families where benders.
>>80546199
this post is three hours old BUT
there isn't an infinite number of multiverses, there's only one multiverse. In that multiverse are a limited number of universes.
>>80552069
Thats literally completely opposite. The president of republic city wasn't a bender. The queen wasn't a bender. Neither was the next in line. There were benders in charge of places but not everywhere.
>>80552013
But in this case there was a choice on whether or not to make life more fair, or keep it as unfair as it is. Something being the original state of being doesn't make it automatically the best option.
>>80552545
They didn't have a non-bender president at the time.
Republic City, despite being a sovereign nation of former Fire/Earth nation people, was for some reason ruled by a council of bender representatives from the five other nations. Three of which had no claim to the place, and one of which wasn't even a "nation" so much as it was one guy and his kids, who have national power purely by virtue of their bending.
>>80547235
Hope he stays dead.
>>80543681
fuck off.
he wants to destroy A multiverse.
guess what m8?
we live on a omniverse.
we still have multiple multiverses
