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Who would realistically win a fight?
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>Superman
>Supergirl
>Wonder Woman
>Flash

Pretty obvious, desu senpai.
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>>79805511
Double dubs, speaks the truth.
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>>79805439

Everyone knows there ain't no one better than Mr. Rogers in a blood-stained sweater.
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>>79805511
Forgetting
>Martian Manhunter

But yeah, dubs is right.
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We just talking about the characters in op's image or universes as a whole? Two very different ballgames, specially with abstracts involved.
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>>79805611
The porn parody was better tbqh familia
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>>79805646
Universe as a whole.
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>>79805615
>>79805511

>Pheonix

Sorry bros Jean takes this, with thor providing back up
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>>79805511
Dubs of truth.
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>>79805665
Are you retarded? Captain Britain beat back the Phoenix, Superman sure as shit could.
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>>79805665

Still forgetting about martian manhunter.
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>>79805701
There's also Galactus, Eternity, Infinity, Shaper of Worlds, The Living Tribunal, Beyonders, Celestials...

If we're talking universes as a whole DC has a very hard time winning.
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>>79805439
This guy.
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>Hal vs Cap
Which dipshit thought this was an even match?
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>>79805788
Ae you stupid? The New Gods and Darkseid could wreck all of them. They exist outside the Multiverse.
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>>79805439
The DC A-listers and the Justice League's big guns are in a league of their own. Once you start bringing in the numerous other Superman-tier entities like OG Captain Marvel, even exclusively within the main DC universe the power level difference is insane.
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>>79805834
Wolverine vs Flash is much better.
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Avengers vs. Justice League, DC stomps. Universe vs. Universe is a lot more even, because outside of its main teams Marvel does have a lot of Superman-tier and/or otherwise stupidly powerful characters.
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>>79805733
Jonn, while definitely a powerful telepath has absolutely nothing on Phoenix Jean
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>>79805665
kek no
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>>79805851
Galactus is canonically more powerful than Darkseid and all of the New Gods. Happened in the crossover.
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>>79805788
Seriously? Compared to Lucifer or The Endless those guys are chumps
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>>79805439
Marvelfriends will say the Marvel side but they also believe DC characters are overpowered.
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>>79805851
Living Tribunal and the Beyonders are too. That's kind of the whole point of them. There's also the Captain Britain Corps, the Timebrokers and whatever those sets of creatures Hickman created were called.

Not to mention it's only been relatively recently that the New Gods have been shown to be that powerful anyway. There was a crossover in the 90s where Galactus came much closer to eating Apokolips than he ever did Earth.
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Thor solos.
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>>79805998
Written by a hack. Galactus is a chump and he gets punked by a guy that stretches.
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I'm a Marvel guy, but thr Justice League wins by far. The only matchups that might see a Marvel victory would be Iron Man vs. Batman and maybe Vision vs. MM. The JL, at their best, are essentially gods.

Someone on here once said that Marvel comics are about regular people trying to be superheroes, and that DC comics are about superheroes trying to be regular people. I agree with that 100%.
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>>79806043
>I don't like it so it doesn't count
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Capcom.
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>>79806043
The fact of the matter is it's only in Morrison and post-Morrison comics that the Fourth World characters have been that powerful. Darkseid needed the heroes help as much as they did his in COIE.
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>>79806100
Do you use this strong argument when defending current Bendis also?
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>>79806070
Kek Iron Man would pull Stark our of his suit and beat him like the little bitch he is
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>>79806020
>Thinking Thor could even beat Superman 1v1
Wew
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>>79806160
Darkseid is only even powerful in Morrison comics when he has the abti life equation
This guy is just a fucking casual
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>Superman is overpowered and boring
>here's a list of my favorite Marvel heroes who could beat him up
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>>79806070
Then you don't really read many Marvel or DC comics. Shame, some are pretty good.
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>>79806240
>bitching about company wars in a company wars thread
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>>79805439
>realistically
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Golden God Superman pulls out all the bullshit so Marvel doesn't stand a chance. gg no re
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>>79805439
>DC has prepgod and speed force
DC curbstomps
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Sentry solos all the DC multiverse.
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>>79806288
Prequel fag. Therefore you point means nothing.
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>>79806396
Nah, they just drop the watchtower on his head.
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you know now that I think of it, DC is severely lacking in strong telepaths

even Martian Manhunter would be like a B-Tier mutant with his telepathic psychic powers

Considering Batman's ultimate fallout plan is dealing with mind controlled Supes/WW/whatever, I honestly think Marvel could pull a win if they just had a bunch of their telepaths together
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Based on the pic, or even standard super teams vs super teams DC and it's not even close.

Based on universe vs universe, Marvel by a mile. They have way too many multi- to omni-versal threats in their roster.
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>>79805439
Rune king thor=all
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>>79807083
can someone make a comparison between entities and those stronger characters from both companies?
I know beings like eternity, death, galactus, darkseid, antimonitor are atleast (or very close to) universal level, but don't know enough to compare them
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>>79807239
Not this pleb again...
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>>79805439
DC, half their shit is retardedly overpowered.
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>>79807083
>They have way too many multi- to omni-versal threats in their roster.

Like?
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>>79805998

Didn't Galuctus get completly by Krona? In fact Krona was the major enemy of the crossover.
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>>79807325
TOAA

I don't even think DC really has an equivalent that has actually done something in-universe
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>>79807495
Isn't the DC version split up into several beings? Like there's the Voice, the Presence, and the Hand of the Creator and some others?
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>>79807495
there's a dog who talks to the spectre. also, toaa is only mentioned by living tribunal that I remember
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>>79805851
No fucking way in hell.
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>>79806169
Byrne is one of the biggest continuity fags out there.
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>>79805439
>Phoenix
Not even a fight
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>>79807495
That's not an actual character.
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>>79806182
>Iron Man would pull Stark our of his suit and beat him like the little bitch he is

Should we tell him?
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>>79805851
>can barely take superman
>gets KO'd by some steps
>is somehow a threat to marvel abstracts
nah son.
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>>79805439

hero vs hero DC wins

even within the MU, hickman's alternate earth JLA copy defeated the illuminati (dr strange saved the day with a literal deus ex machina)
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>>79807268
Aren't they all dead now anyway?
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>>79807268
Anti-Monitor is a mutiversal threat the fucker eat every universe except for 5
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>>79807782
I don't really know, I haven't seen much of these beings besides darkseid war, and even though darkseid died I believe he'd be very high up in a power list
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>>79805439
All I know is that Wolverine, Captain America and Batman are first ones to die.

I wager JL would win because Flash + Supergirl + Superman + WW + MM are a pretty overpowered combo that can't be won with brute force alone (IM, Hulk and Thor).
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>>79805439
DC due to speedforce wizard.
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>>79805701
>Cosmic entity that can draw its power from all life that is, was, or will be that is nerfed into the ground because it's not MCU

> CONFIDENCE MAN!
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Universes as a whole Marvel has Franklin Richards they win
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>>79807268
Death(DC)>Antimoniter>Eternity>Galactus>Darkseid
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This thread will be Shitpost: The movie, rage harder
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>>79807941
Phoenix force solos this fight but other than that Flash kills everyone by stealing their kinetic energy at speeds they can react to.
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>>79806199
>Yeah, Stark doesn't have anything against Iron Man
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>>79807993
Why doesn't The Flash just put the whole world in a bottle?
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>>79807975

except he is a retarded 10 yo who only does anything useful under the direction of his future self, who is not part of the MU right now
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>>79807738

Remember that Time when Tony stark was fighting his suit and his suit went full yandere.
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>>79807574
>>79807648
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>>79808026
I believe that beyond his abilty but he can speed steal everyone on the Marvel team before they cant react but Jean can use use Phoenix to go LOL NO then will his speed to go away and deconstruct him.
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>>79805701
He beat back a hostess Pheonix. The PF is always more dangerous with a host.
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Black Adam.
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>>79808078
>right now
wut
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>>79807738
>>79808100
>Stark's armor is sentient
>If Tony doesn't treat it right it will reject him and refuse to obey his commands
>Suit has the personality of a yandere anime schoolgirl
I want this to be a thing
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>>79807891
>Wolverine
Isn't it more likely that Wolverine survives but keeps being useless throughout the whole fight?
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>>79805439
Base on that its DC
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>>79808261
>black Namor with lightning powers
nah
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>>79808261
It's fucking incredible how more "epic" this fight felt than most final fights from events. It's just all the buildup that Black Adam had and how you saw the new life he had gotten for himself torn to shreds. He was left with nothing but his anger. It's a damn pity there will never be a miracle as great as 52 ever again in a weekly.
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>>79808345
>I want this to be a thing
it was
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>>79805439
DC
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>>79807552
Yes.

>>79807495
You still failed to name those "multiversal" guys.
Marvel has very few "multiversal" level people.
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>>79809820
Beyonders, Phoenix, Shuma Gorath. LT is too big to ever actually do anything. Yeah DC has way more.
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>>79808026

>Under the radar reference
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>>79805439
>Speedforce

I think this one is in the bag for DC.
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>>79813327
>Phoenix force
Sorry mate.
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Marvel's got so fucking many godmode characters that it really isn't an issue. And DC's got a lot, too, but goddamn Marvel.
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>>79805439
One side has Squirrel Girl. The other side does not.
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>>79807891
I agree.
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>>79805439
Out of the matches pictured, the winners would be
>Superman
>Phoenix
>Thor
>Supergirl
>Spider Man
>Iron Man
>Green Lantern
>Flash
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>>79805439
The one with The Flash
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>>79805439
Realistically? No one. Because they aren't real.
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>>79816093
Shut the fuck up.
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>>79810014
>Beyonders,
Sure
>Phoenix
Extra-universal, not multiversal
>Shuma Gorath
Now we are talking.
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>>79816093
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>>79805439
>Realistically
No one.
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>>79806687
>DC is severely lacking in strong telepaths
Saturn Girl is broken as fuck
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>>79805439
Sentry.
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>>79808261
And he was winning. It took 3 of the most powerful just to hold him so Billy could zap him.
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Dr. Strange could fuck a lot of them up.
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>>79815783
>Can percieve events faster than an attosecond
>Is still outbeaten by bananaman because he doesn't have enough goesfast

You should probably stop taunting, Wally.
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>>79807602
Well yes, if you bothered reading Multiversity.

Also in the Darkseid war the fight between Darkseid and the Anti-Monitor was stated to be a threat to the entire multiverse by Metron, a being who's power is knowing everything.
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>>79805701
are you serious?

that was captain britain's absolute best, pulling everything he had with the machine he and beast designed, and it still only held it for a couple of seconds.
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>>79805439
Marvel Universe.

Superman is strong as fuck, no doubt about that, but there's a lot more magic-based characters in Marvel and that magic would give them the advantage over him. Mjolnir is magic, for example, so if Supes takes one hit from that he's fucking dead - and that's just one character.

In all honesty, Flash and Martian Manhunter are the biggest threats to Marvel.
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>Deadpool busts into the DC writing room and tells everyone to nerf the DC characters so hard that Random Civilian From New York #59213 from the Marvel Universe could solo them all by himself
>One of the DC writers refuses and gets decapitated
>The rest of the DC writers oblige
>Marvel wins
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Flash wins lol
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>>79821761
Don't be clueless.

Superman isn't particularly weak to magic, it just affects him like it would anybody else. It does not affect him the same way that kryptonite and red solar energy.
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>>79822050
To be fair the whole "magic affects him like anyone else" thing isn't exactly consistent

If we take it to mean that being hit by a magical weapon would affect him as if he were a regular human, then being hit by Mjolnir would turn him into strawberry jam

Or if he was struck by Thor's Magic Lightning, shouldn't that outright kill him too?

The whole "vulnerable to magic" thing is really inconsistent in the books so it's hard to tell

That's also what comes up a lot in "goku vs superman" threads - if Goku used his magic power pole and connected with even a low power hit, if we go by the "magic affects him as if he were regular" then it'd fucking kill him too

Ultimately, like nearly every superhero, Superman's power is based on one thing, and one thing only: the writer
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>>79822161
Yeah, it's very inconsistent.

Since it varies from writer to writer it's difficult to make out any kind of average, but I generally assume that you need roughly the same amount of power that would otherwise be required to take him down.

When it comes to more 'effect' based stuff, however, like weakening spells, then it seems like any ol' mage will do.
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>>79805951
Universe vs Universe, I'd go with Marvel. Marvel has a lot of cosmic bullshit, and a lot of reality warpers.

But Avengers vs JL? Jesus christ, Flash is there.
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>>79805788

>Using villians
>Those scrubs
>When DC has Mandraxx and Ultra

Oh I am laughing
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>>79806043
>gets punked by the most intelligent being on Earth, across multiple realities

FTFY
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>>79806687

How limited do you think MM's telepathic powers are?
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>>79805998
wasn't galactus beaten by doomsday?
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>>79821811

>Ambush bug has already gone back in time and pushes Lee, Kirby and Ditko off a cliff
>DC wins
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Vibe from DC
If he focuses hard enough he can destroy the walls of reality using vibrations
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DC Comics has Detective Chimp
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>>79813431
Phoenix Force is nowhere near as strong as you're making it out to be. It's only bullshit by Marvel standards.
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>>79806687
this was even lampshaded by Busiek in his Avengers run, when they fought the mind-controlled Supreme Squadron(yes, they were mind-controlled again. Yes, that was a plot-point)
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>>79805439
Whoever the writer wants to.
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>>79822988
Hit Monkey doesn't give a fuck
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>>79806396
Nah, but current Sentry is unbeatable by physical force, or meta-physical even, like Thor's so he stomps the League until classic Dr. Fate appears (even then I'm not so sure, as Sentry is now powered by Celestials).
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>>79807766
cthulhu ex machina to be precise
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>>79822826
shut the fuck up Grant and go to rehab
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>>79805665
why would x-men help the avengers? I think that the x-men would probably side with DC heroes
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>>79822161
Jurgens writes it as "anything magically charged nullifies Supes' invulnerability, a paper sheet enchanted to be always white would paper-cut him"

Busiek writes it as "Supes isn't invulnerable to magic, a knife enchanted to be lightweight doesn't hurt him, a spoon enchanted to cut anything cuts him"

Everybody has their own interpretation.
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>>79823065
lol.
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I don't really care who would win, as I stopped liking marvel characters a while ago. I am happy that I'm discovering dc a little, especially stuff from the 80s
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>>79815618
I see your squirrel girl and raise you a batmite voiced by none other than Paul Reuben.
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