So it's not Logan.
Is Janet dead the now?
If not, then Hope Van Dyne from MC2
its the bitch
>>78981595
Wasn't Rita alive already after Chaos War? What the fuck even happened to Swordsman? Spencer gave him a daughter and there's still not a signal of him.
>>78981631
>Is Janet dead the now?
She wasn't dead in Rage of Ultron.
>>78981595
Dude, recharge your battery.
>>78981631
>>78981635
Rita DeMara, fucking casuals, the second Yellowjacket
They are introducing MC2 hope into the 616 earth becauae of the movies as the ANAD wasp
>>78981676
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>>78981694
>DEAD NO MORE
MC2 Hope was never dead
>>78981735
He's already back as an LMD in Illumanati
>>78981676
>implying Marvel would ever make this big a deal over a character not in the films
>>78981735
Do you even Illuminati?
>>78981772
DeadNamor?
>>78981777
>Yellowjacket
>not on the films
Besides, Marvel needs a villain for the poor Ant-Man, he's just fighting other people villains. It also fills their non-male quota, giving an important "role" to a female.
>Captcha: fenchiv antagonism
>>78981631
>Is Janet dead the now?
No. She's going to be in the next issue of AN Wolverine.
>Yellow & Black
>Sting
>Dead character being brought back
Likely Rita DeMara but I have no idea why they'd want to bring her back. I assumed they were going to turn Cross into the new Yellow-Jacket considering muh movie synergy and the fact that he has pym particles now.
>Dead no more
>Beware my sting
WARNING
WARNING
BEST SPIDER BROTHER INCOMING
>>78981595
First was Hank, second was Janet, Ant Man & Wasp duo book Soon
>>78981830
Welp fuck you nailed it
>>78981653
Yes.
>>78981676
She hasn't been dead for five fucking years. Janet came back a couple of years ago as well, so unless she died in Clusterfuck Wars XII and nobody noticed, not her either.
>>78981694
MC2 wasn't dead, was she?
>>78981735
Yeah, possibly. Still seems like kind of a big announcement for such a minor character, and the full quote is "if I be waspish, best beware my sting".
Ultimate Wasp? Just to really confuse the issue?
>>78981830
Janet is not dead you fucking retards, she showed up well on Rage of Ultron and Ant-Man Annual
>>78981821
>Besides, Marvel needs a villain for the poor Ant-Man
But one of the main antagonists of Spencer's Ant-man is Darren Cross, whose already been given pym particles when they brought him back in the first volume. If they wanted movie synergy, a yellow-jacket, and/or an antagonist for Ant-man, just making Cross the new Yellow-Jacket seems the obvious way to go. Not bringing back Rita. Who the fuck cares about her?
>>78981861
>>78981653
she didn't come back to life on Chaos Wars, the only one that did was Swordsman. She came back to the Dead Realm after they defeated Mikaboshi.
>>78981868
lrn2read
He's saying yesterdays promo was specifically about Hank and todays is about Janet, they're not referring to a single character
>>78981868
And she's on the cover for the next issue of AN Wolverine.
>>78981868
And will be in All-New Wolverine #5.
My God, ANAD Wolverine needs other heroes to push her book. Logan used to do that to everyone.
>>78981880
who the fuck knows, maybe they noticed they have a lack of female villains and added one the casuals would recognize to get easy browny points
>>78981895
Oh, yeah, then that would make sense. Yesterday's was silver, so that works for Hank, and this has to either be Wasp or Yellow-Jacket. A Pymtron & Janet book would be pretty schway.
>>78981595
Are we sure this isn't an unrelated teaser?
>>78981895
>>78981929
Hank wasn't dead, fucking retards, he just fused with Ultron. I swear you fucking casuals don't know how to fucking read.
Fusing with Ultron =/= DEAD
>>78981945
Everyone in universe pretty much treated him as dead after Pymtron fucked off.
That also came out the same day Pymtron came back and
>Missing No More
isn't as catchy as
>Dead No More
>>78981929
Eh, I have feel that every page would be YOU HIT ME, YOU MONSTER!!!!
>>78981979
>everyone in universe pretty much trated him as dead
and yeah, in-universe. The teasers are directed to us, the audience, that fucking know that he was never dead.
>>78981730
>I don't read comics and I'm proud of it!
I want you "people" to leave.
>>78981888
>the only one that did was Swordsman
That's not true, most of Dead Alpha Flight (the ones Bendis offed in New Avengers) came back as well.Major Mapleleaf and Puck II settled down and had a kid.
>>78982000
It wouldn't. They're not about to bring that up because it'd just tarnish the name of one of their MCU characters. The LAST thing Marvel wants is associating one of their premier heroes with spousal abuse. Also it wouldn't be in character since they worked through that years ago. Decades, actually.
That'd be worse than if the Scarlet Witch ongoing revolved around her genociding the mutants or the Captain Marvel ongoing revolved around her being raped by her own son. No one wants to read that, no one wants to buy that, no one wants to write that.
>>78982172
sorry, I was talking about the Dead Avengers, but thanks for correcting me.Seriously
Terrified Pymtron is gonna become Yellowjacket.
Also what team? WCA?
>>78982178
Weren't there rumors/articles/whatever that Lang was picked over Pym because of Pympslap and controversy around it? Speaking of it, it's stupid how everyone in costume knows about it.
>>78982325
No, its because Edgar Wrights original script had Scott as Ant-Man because
>muh
and Hank was going to end up being a villain
there is still a small chance right?
>>78982389
Ah. Power of muh is strong, I admit.
>>78981730
Villainous Yellowjacket turned, honorary avenger and member of the original gotg. Iron man killed her during the crossing.
>>78982325
Hank did tell a reporter about it while in prison.
>>78981735
But he's Black Ant.
Could it be?
>>78982091
You realize there's a pretty large chasm between "I don't read comics" and "I've memorized every single factoid ever written about comics no matter how obscure or trivial", right?
>>78981595
Bane?
>>78981849
I would forgive marvel of anything if they gave Pym his own book
>>78982325
No, Lang was picked over Pym because Lang is Edgar Wright's favorite character since Wright loved To Steal an Ant-man and wanted to adapt it.
>>78981595
Wait, what if it's not Rita DeMara?
What if it's another size changing hero who was dead? Cassie Lang was called Stinger in MC2
>>78982609
>Rita DeMara
I'll give you the obscure but not knowing your basic GOTG and Pym users story means you don't know shit about Marvel comics
>>78982688
And she's alive. Holy shit, you people keep throwing around names of people still alive.
>>78982451
If it wasn't yellow, he probably would have a chance.
>>78981829
Kaine?
He's alive and doesn't wear yellow.
>>78982699
I'd hardly call Rita basic knowledge for GOTG readers. She didn't even show up in Guardians 3000 or Korvac Saga and wasn't referenced at all.
And Pym stories in the last 15 years or so don't even really mention Rita.
So most newer readers wouldn't even be exposed to her unless they read Chaos War (which no one did). They'd need to wiki her to find out who she was
>>78982609
You're a casual if you dont know basic Avengers history, yea.
>>78982716
She was dead fairly recently.
>>78982451
He's not even dead.
>>78982813
She showed up alive on Spider-Girl complement on Secret Wars Spider-Island so she's alive
>>78982744
maybe he gets a new suit
miguel got a new one, no reason for kaine to not get one
>>78982847
he is for the people writing web warriors and slott, fuckers just dont want to bring him back
>>78982793
>new
so you're a casual, there's nothing wrong with it, just admit it
>>78982921
Slott literally put in a panel showing Kaine is alive in the spider-verse epilogue, editorial wanted him dead.
>>78982920
616 Cassie was dead.
She lost her powers as Stature. Maybe this is her becoming Stinger.
>>78981595
Uncle Bilbo?
>>78983012
the other dude was talking about MC2 Cassie Lang, don't enter the conversation if you're going to talk about another version of Cassie.
And she's depowered right now anyway.
>>78983012
You what, anon? Stature is back, Original Sin. Doom restored her back. She serves are muh daughter, muh failure as father in Astonishing Ant-Man.
>>78982973
What a guy.
>>78983071
>>78983051
The first teaser just said "Dead No More"
No other details than that. The normal conclusion to get from that is that it's about a resurrection.
But what if it's just a statement. She died, she came back, the fact she was dead still defines her.
And now she's lost her size changing powers because Darren Cross needs to become Yellowjacket. So what if this is about her getting an Ant-Man helmet and Wasp powers and becoming Stinger?
It makes about as much sense as Rita randomly coming back from the dead.
>>78981595
What if the teasers are for two different characters and they will all form a new team.
>Best beware my sting” is from The Taming of The Shreew, fully reading, “If I be waspish, best beware my sting.”
maybe wasp pym is back
>>78983167
>Pymtron shows up in Lang's book
>this is now Pym-family book
>>78982921
>>78982973
Pretty sure Slott said in an interview that he was too scared to piss off Yost to kill him.
>>78981595
So are they going to hook up Jan and Pymtron? Are they going to try to get Jan knocked up with Hope? Will they have Hope come from the future like one of Sunmer's temporal bastards? Will they have Kang toss Alex and Jan's mutant daughter Katie in an adult form to attack the avengers?
>>78982592
He'll never come back, never.
>>78983276
Not Yost, Kaine fansWho would be 100% justified in their actions
>>78982793
>So most newer readers wouldn't even be exposed to her unless they read Chaos War (which no one did)
That's how I was exposed to her.
>>78984259
Are Kainefags numerous?
>>78984472
We're not a huge group, but damn are we rabid about our boy.
>>78984496
Good. I'll be Kainefag one day, I really dig his latest costume.
And he had awesome card in Vs System.
>>78981595
What if it's something different?
>>78981868
Rage of Ultron was an OGN.
>>78984553
Any idea who has black/yellow costume and can sting?
>>78981979
>Everyone in universe pretty much treated him as dead after Pymtron fucked off.
Why were they so retarded? The X-Men did the same thing when Apocalypse took over Cyclops and bolted.
Is it obvious to anyone else that it's probably referencing the same character? as in it's probably just Pym coming back as yellow jacket again?
>>78984593
Queen Bee? Bumble Bee?
>>78984593
Yellowjacket or Wasp. I mean that the "Dead No More" teaser doesn't have to be related to the "Best Beware My Sting" teaser.
>>78984579
A canon ogn.
>>78984677
Both DC.
>>78984681
Yeah, maybe. In that case, Wasp solo? Pym and Janet ongoing? Something third and crossdressing tranny becomes Wasp?
>>78981595
What if they kill Wasp just to bring her back? Like she dies in Standoff and this is a teaser for the event after Civil War II.
>>78982688
But her colors were putple and she never died.
>>78984859
>purple
>She never died
She died on the Crossing and her Yellowjacket uniform was the classic one, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>78981595
Still convinced it's going to be Marvel's Blackest Night, they will show a lot of teaser for dead characters and it's going to be an event about them coming back all fucked up.
Also Brevoort declared Chaos war non-canon and Necrosha was just an X-Men event and Marvel loves recycling ideas plus casuals didn’t read those so they will do their blackest night.
>>78984927
Cassie Lang in the MC2, you brought her up.
>>78984927
They're talking about Cassie.
>>78984798
A Pym and Janet ongoing seems like the most likely guess.
>>78982803
Or, y'know, you just don't give a fuck about Marvel.
>>78985036
>Also Brevoort declared Chaos war non-canon
Sauce?
>>78983835
They would do that just to get Hope and yeah I guess Ultron finally gets his wish of boning Janet too.
>>78985078
>>78985088
sorry, I don't know how the fuck I thought it was another message the one he was answering to
>>78985110
if you don't give a fuck about Marvel why are you guessing anything at all about a Marvel resurrection?
>>78985197
I'm not, I'm just browsing this thread cuz I'm bored. But ya don't need to know jack about Marvel to not be a casual.
>>78981595
...Did The Scorpion die?
>>78985370
no, he's alive and still recovering on the hospital after SpOck beat him up nanite-boosted and all
>>78985435
>still recovering on the hospital
No he isn't. Right now he's working for Alchemax as the head of their Super-Prison Contract. Who better to help build a prison for super-villains than a super-villain?
>>78984472
No but we never let go of hope.
