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Paranatural: Second Impact edition
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chalkboard drawings objectively superior to Isaac's whiteboard drawings

>Life's hitting hard right now, but I'm proud I was at least able to get this page done. Thanks for reading!
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https://twitter.com/paranaturalzack/status/479432248257941504
Reminder that Spender is 26 and was a 13-year-old boy at the time.
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>>78790997
Spender's shadow in the 7th panel is weird
it should be in front of Spender, but instead it's not
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Whiteboards > Chalkboards
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>>78791014
>26
Fuck my life, you're telling me I'm older than that neurotic weirdo?

This is worse than finding out I'm older than Superman.
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>>78791025
It's his own headspace. Alternate light sources.
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Zack is such a tryhard little bitch.
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>>78791213
the only light source is his spirit
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How much longer until Zack does his first update skip of the year? I give him another week.
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>>78790997
> reminder that the train arc was just last night in-universe and hitball covered only about half an hour of the morning

Great pacing Zack.
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>>78791508
Instead of launching into this new arc he should have just taken some time off to let his wrist rest or whatever and maybe build up a bit of a buffer.
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>>78791508
>Life's hitting hard right now, but I'm proud I was at least able to get this page done. Thanks for reading!
Yep, I'm waiting for it any day now.
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>>78792062
Soon. He's just been travelling so much, you know?
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> like many spirits before him, he comes to this town seeking power he doesn't understand

Stuff like this has happened before? How does Spender cope with all those encounters?
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>>78792062
>Life's hitting hard right now
Hitting hard in a good or bad way? As in, "life is intense"or "life is hard"?
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>Things are finally happening.
So much time wasted with hitball.
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I bet Spender's the kind of guy who'd paint a fridge with chalkboard paint just so he could do doodles on it while cooking his breakfast or something. I know I am.
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To the anon that wanted me to draw a lisa.

Probably not quite what you had in mind, but this is what lisa always reminds me of.
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>>78792338
IT'S FUCKING PERFECT
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>>78791014
>>78791169
Paranatural's suppose to take place in which decade originally? The protags are around 12-13, right?

I wonder if I butchered the filename this time
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>>78790997
It's an exposition filled recap! Just what we wanted.
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>13 years ago
Here it fucking goes. Mysterious event from the past, merely referred to as "that day..." or "13 years ago..." by characters reflecting darkly from dramatic angles.
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>>78792791
an in-character recap, which is very useful for understanding a character's actions and this one covers material we haven't seen before
also it's been a while, we're probably about to dive back into the heavy shit
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>>78791169
That's only because readers keep getting older, but comic characters stay the same age.

...Which version of Superman is under 30? I think he was perpetually 31 or something pre-Crisis but who knows since then with sliding timescales.

Is it the movie version.
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>>78793061
MoS Supes is an old man, he spent like a decade wandering the world
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>>78792889
Relevant.
https://twitter.com/paranaturalzack/status/683093100928069634
>paranatural is a tricky story b/c the plot is presented as a mystery where you're slowly gathering the components needed to understand it
>that means there's a lot of fun payoff when things come together down the line. now that i've learned a little more about writing,
>i'm trying to do a better job of balancing that with events and characters you can understand and have fun with in the present moment
>not that the comic was especially bad at that in the past. anyways, writing tip: make sure u know the narrative purpose of keeping a secret
>plot twists are great and fun, but sometimes (sometimes!) it's better to know characters' motivations, etc. up front.
>generally a good rule of thumb is to interrogate the writing & art techniques you're using and make sure you're deploying them with intent
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>>78792338
Friggin' beautiful.

>penguin books
So not just a painting, a novel cover?
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>>78792531
> take place in which decade
Present Day, Present Time. [Laughter Intensifies].

You can tell cuz of Suzy's bananaPad.
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>>78792889
And of course it had to be that number 13.

>>78793196
> that chapter 1 hoodie
I gotta say, Zack sure does have the brains for designing eye-catching costumes.
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>>78793107
I get the point of keeping secrets but man, I hate it when the author fucking beats me over the head with whatever they're keeping from me.
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>>78792531
It used to be early 2000s but that was retconned.
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So Lucifer is in front of the cage. Weird.
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>>78792171
I think either of those are bad.
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>>78792338
It was me. Thanks, anon!
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>>78794247
he's in it, that's how he's "caging" the other demon
zacks just too lazy to draw him in it 99% of the time
3rd panel this comic actually shows the tongue in it and a wing slipping between the bars
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>>78792889
Probably referring to the maelstrom which we have a hint about and is probably tied to Isaac
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>>78793080
He had a few aimless years. Not a decade.
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>>78794289
In the first one the body of the bird is outside. In the other panels the whole thing is outside.
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>>78794359
Isaac is like twelve, so chances are its not about him. He wasn't even alive then.
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>>78794247
I think he is in it, as another anon said, Zack just didn't bother drawing the cage around him.
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>>78794247
>>78794482
>>78794549
The cage almost seems to be an Escher type of structure. In panel 3 his wings are behind the bars but body in front, looking at him from the front. In panel 4, it's the same way but we're looking at him from the back. Also seen in the last panel.

I think it's more fun of an explanation than Zack being lazy anyway.
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>>78794483
It's the perfect age for something to happen to bind Stormo to a baby Isaac.
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>>78794651
Lets do the math

Isaac is 12 or younger

The event happened 13 years ago.

If Isaac is 12, it might have happened when he was in utero
But if hes any younger, then it can't have anything to do with him. He wouldn't even be conceived yet.
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>>78794689
>implying we arent going to get an inidial d inspired side comic about a stormo possessed sperm drifting down the fallopian tubes at full speed
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>>78794247
Lucifer goes over the cage like eyes go over hair in zack's Japanese cartoons.
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>>78794689
That's just wrong. It's a perfect age. It's very close to Isaac being born. Plus we don't know Isaac's age he could be 13. Saying it can't be related at all is just stupid. I'm sure it had to do with Stormo and something killed him, maybe later and he got into Isaac. That's not taking into account circumstances that probably happened we don't know about.
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>>78795079
I seem to remember that somewhere it said Isaac was younger than Max who is definitely 12
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>>78795134
I don't remember that
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>>78795079
>Plus we don't know Isaac's age he could be 13.
We don't even know how old these kids are...except Max, even then it was hinted.
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>>78795443
Well I have no source, but Im pretty convinced I remembered reading that somewhere.

But thats hardly proof so I won't blame you for not agreeing
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>>78790997
>3 panels without backgrounds
zack the hack strikes back
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>>78794689
But what if zack introduces time travel into the comic?
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>>78795836
only if he calls it "gravity"
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>>78795833
At least it makes sense here. Lucifer's lightening up shadows is a lot better than fucking gradients in a gym.
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>>78794650
It seems pretty obvious to me that Lucifer-bird is inside the cage and it's just drawn this way so you can actually get a clear look at his pose and expression. Just look at the middle-left panel and tell me you'd be able to tell he has a deadpan expression with bars covering 60% of his face.

Even from an art perspective there's no way you're drawing half a cage bar, you'd draw the whole thing then put lucifer on a different layer over it so the image looks coherent.

Is it wrong that Lucifer is such a serious character with edgey tendencies but all I can do when I look at that bird is think how fucking cute it is
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>>78796534
>Is it wrong that Lucifer is such a serious character with edgey tendencies but all I can do when I look at that bird is think how fucking cute it is
there is a lot of that going on
>Forgeass.png
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>>78793565
(...well I can't leave the other half alone.)
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>>78794689
>>78795079
>>78795134
>>78795443
>>78795502
>>78795559
Isaac is twelve
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>>78797927
Well, I stand corrected. Thanks for that reminder, anon.
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>>78797927
Boy I sure feel stupid now.
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Ah, just what we needed after Hitball. Exposition.
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Spender having been a middle school spectral adventurer who saved the town/world sounds pretty perfect to be honest.
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I have a feeling that Max is the one involved with the incident 13 years ago. His spirit is apparently infamous for whatever reason, so I assume that whatever happened all those years ago resulted in Scrap Dragon having to possess the recently (or perhaps yet-to-be) born Max.
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>>78800003
>PNat switches from Bleach to Naruto
... yay?
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>>78799787
I'll bet that's what killed Isabel's grandpa.
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>>78799787
I hope we get some flashbacks to that time with Spender as a kid, or a whole chapter flashback even.
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>>78800317
Maybe that'll be Paranatural 2.
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>>78790997
>who are these drawings for

har har comic acknowledging it's a work of fiction never seen that before lolz where does this gifted writer get his ideas
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>>78800724
it's weird though this time, because it's totally natural for people to draw things to sort their thoughts out
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>>78800003
If max was possesed at birth, he couldn't have left or gone back into mayview.
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>>78802955
I've thought of that too. Consider this: we never actually saw Max being possessed. He moved to may view with his senpai at the start of the story, so it obviously happened before he moved. Also, Johnny walked right through the barrier immediately after being possessed. It's possible that the barrier doesn't affect spectral and mediums until their abilities appear.
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>>78799764
How long was the useless hitball arc going - 6 months? 9?
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>>78803250
>Senpai
Where did that even come from? Fucking auto correct.
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>>78803282
that's what you get for trying to be hip by shortening "family"
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>>78803250
>He moved to may view with his senpai
Just like my fan fictions.
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>>78790997
do we have a translation for those skulls? I wouldn't put it past zack.
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>>78800029
Mr. Spender already is super similar to the Fourth Hokage
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>>78804038
oh right
they're a bible cypher with the comic as the bible, right
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>>78803282
Huh, you must have been gone a while. Or you are new
New word filter
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>>78805707
Not that guy but I had no idea there was a new word filter and I've been around since 08
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>>78802955
No, the barrier only blocks spectrals and spirits. Tools can pass through without harm, and a person who's possessed without becoming a spectral yet is just a walking tool.
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>>78804038
Pretty sure they're just the basic form, they're both the same word and have no kind of horn arrangement. does anyone have the crib sheet around?
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>>78805833
Happened at halloween. There were plenty of threads about it on basically every board.
t b h is desu
f a m is senpai
s m h is baka
and c u c k is kek
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>>78805895
no horns means either chapter 0 or nothing
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>>78803250
>He moved to may view with his senpai
Top lel
It's not only possible that it only affects spectrals, it's confirmed to only affect spectrals. If you're just possessed it does nothing to you. This was even stated by Forge or Doorman or whoever in comic.

I think Max's broken god spirit is a different type of possession also, like Hijack. I feel like that's the reason Hijack even exists, to show us that there are other kinds.
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>>78805860
But then how was Johnny able to pass through the barrier immediately after being possessed by Forge? The spirits who possess non-spectrals must somehow remain dormant within the person until they develop the abilities to communicate with spirits.
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>>78807797
>But then how was Johnny able to pass through the barrier immediately after being possessed by Forge?
He wasn't a spectral. Being possessed WILL unlock your spectral powers, eventually. Then the communion between spirit and spectral can happen et cetera. Johnny was just possessed. Not a medium yet. He was a tool.
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>>78808859
So then Max was just a tool after being possessed, up until chapter 1.
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>>78809074
Yeah, basically. We don't know how long he was possessed or such but his spectral abilities emerged just like they are for Johnny right now.

It's almost guaranteed that Max is possessed considering the hints.
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>>78800317
>>78800497
Paranatural chapter 0.
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>>78807189
Except Hijack uses a unique spirit power to accomplish his hijacking.

A spirit that's broken and healing inside something can't actively use its power on its own, or can it? It wouldn't be too much of a 'prison' like the whalefrog said if they could.

And its power is already established as 'riddles and wordgames' anyway.
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>>78809741
riddles and shit is a character trait, not a power
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>>78809940
No, 'schemer' is a character trait. Word games is a power. He literally calls it that.

And as the sphinx shows, it's clearly power material.
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>>78809741
We know very little about how it works so you can't really say that and his power has not been established as riddles. That's just dumb.
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>>78809266
Yes he is. We even saw the spirit talking with Doorman in chapter 3 using Max Body.
And we know the big Snake from the bat doesn't talk, so must be another spirit.
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>>78811381
Or it's his hat.
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>>78811381
>Can't talk
Nigga, the blue-eyed Scrapdragon made a horned headdress and an apparently functional claw out of junk using its powers. The Whale Frog went grudge and couldn't shut up afterwards to stay focused on its fight.

The big Snake from the bat can WON'T talk, but it probably can.

>must be another spirit
The best evidence for this is the fact that Boss Leader all but stated there's another spirit hiding in Max's dreamroom. Scrapdragon may be human-level smart, but it's probably not the trickster.
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>>78811381
I still subscribe to the idea that scrappy-doo has a second displaced actually intelligent consciousness roaming around max's head while the feral one is using the body.
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>>78812846
He said doesn't talk technically. Who are you quoting?

But no, a defensive reflex forming horns in no way implies it's currently capable of higher intelligence than a dog. You don't know what amount of its efforts are instinctual reflexes and what require precision and conscious thought.

That could just be the natural way its cartoon-magnetic fields arrange themselves.
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>>78805909
>c u c k is kek
I kinda don't like the fact that the usual term for Cuculus canorus, also an adjective + noun synonym for 'crazy', got affected too even though it has absolutely nothing to do with...THAT.
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>>78813806
When will we ever need to talk about cuckoos instead of Isaac being NTR'd hard?
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>>78814820
Well whaddayaknow, the word filter's gone!

...also, what's NTR?
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>>78815018
is it really
baka desu senpai
on topic, was a direct link between maxes mom and forge ever states, or was that just speculation
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>>78815018
Ask the panda.
http://exhentai.org/?f_search=netorare
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>>78814820
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>>78815400
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>>78811559
pls
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>>78812846
Not all spirits can talk. Scrapdragon is probably more on the animalistic side of spirits. Forming metal weapons and defense is merely it's natural way of doing things in its hulked up state.
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>>78813367
From what we know that's not possible. You can't split up a spirit like that and if it were it should have showed up in the room.

>>78813806
recently I used cuck. as part of a word but it still autocorrected me. I don't remember what it was but it wasn't the word that was meant to be filtered so it just came out looking silly.
>>78814820
That's what it was. It was a Zelda thread.
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>>78797927
> be missing Team Lightningrod shenanigans
I hope they'll reconcile soon.
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...bump?
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>>78817973
Hatanon did nothing wrong.
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>>78812846
so does anybody ever think about the possibility that scrap dragon is max's dead mother?
i feel like that's an obvious theory, but i've never seen anyone discuss it at all
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>>78821752
Lacking a mechanic for ghosts to turn into spirits being revealed in like chapter 15, it remains in the "Dumbledore is Future Ron" realm of plot twists.

There was a phase of speculation-talk, when wondering about Scraps' gender or how he would interact with Max, of if it might take on a warped surrogate motherly mentor role.
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>>78821752
The bat was in a middle school closet in Mayview.

Puckett died not-in-Mayview.
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>>78792338
>[Z/H]ack
I fucking love you
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>>78794689
>implying that the event that happened 13 years ago is about isaac and not max's weird ass ghost monster living in his bat
yeaaaaaah sure anon, sure
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a shame Isabel isnt browner
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>>78823719
She is delicious caramel. More like shame she doesn't have a penis.
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>>78823778
seh can probably give herself one made out of spectral energy
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>>78823183
>all the people that would have the knowledge of the incident including Spender and Boss person don't even recognize the spirit and wave it off as something feral and random
you dunce
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>>78824092
BL does say that's not its normal form. But I'd guess they'd recognise the magnet powers either way.
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>>78823918
> a dildo made out of spectral energy
> hand or fingers stretching/flexing to move phallus
> spectral powered sex toys in general
This could be possible...given it doesn't harm the diddly parts (scorching, infection etc) if the spectral stuff is handled properly.
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>>78823719
Given how colors are getting bleached in a couple of months she'll be white passing.
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>>78823183
it's more likely that the event back then is Mr. Spender's chest spirit. He's been keeping it contained for 13 years
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Lucifer's design is kind of neat to me.
>The tail feather is also a tongue
>The talons are also teeth
>The wings are also a moustache
>The beak is also a nose

Also he seems to be within the cage, but his image tends to overlap it, as if it's on the topmost "layer". That's got to be a weird effect in-world to anyone looking at him. However, his wingmoustache doesn't seem to always follow this and will sometimes go behind and between the bars. Maybe they're, like textures, and they phase through the bar sometimes?

Or maybe Zack's just having problems with drawing him well/consistently, as his lightcord only seems to be visible at the back when looking from the front, but disappears when looking at the back.
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>>78805895
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>>78826646
I've wondered if he's just really bright and just sort of glows through the bars.
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>>78826789
I wonder by some mad Internet magic if PNAT gets adapted into animation in which case I hope whoever responsible will enjoy the 6-packs of worms, how are they going to bring Spender's censored exchange to Isaac to life? Backwards speech? Some obscure to the US audiencelanguage?

...pic unrelated, I just wanna lighten up.
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>>78828640
dropping the volume way down, ambient noise up
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Zack do something good in your hack life
follow Hussie's, Gigi's and Siddell's footsteps and put some lesbian ships in your comic
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>>78821752
Some people think about it but it's still dumb and makes no sense.
>>78822284
Ghosts can turn into spirits by word of god but that has not been established yet and it still makes no sense.
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>>78825392
It absolutely is possible. I'm sure spectral parts can't have any bacteria or viruses unless there are spectral STDs.
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>>78825763
Speaking of which, I think I did requested a reworked colouring of the page before in the last thread. Can you guys deliver?
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>>78826646
It's a very good design.
He can just come outside the cage for some reason.
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>>78830252
Yeah this.

>>78832217
It honestly seems like Zack is only interesting in gay shota teasing. Very strange.
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>>78833068
It's the Ryu/Billy/Lyzerg from Shaman King's fault.
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