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Or /coc/ thread if that's what you look for in the catalog.

Wiki:
http://the-conservatory.wikia.com/wiki/The_/co/nservatory_Wiki

Doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b_kW_QkFSAeCjGVP51kVG6J10gR8YLStcNpzPh-ARC0/edit

Last weekend's thread:
http://desustorage.org/co/thread/78292002/
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Last Weekend's thread:

-'twas the weekend before Christmas, so many things about that
--New Deelette family pic
--New Lovely Ladybug mini holiday comic in the works
--Even more discussion about /coc/ families
--Lots of new pics
-New Golden Girl comic in progress, GG's A-Z and many puns and new words for scrabble were had
-More alien discussion about that albino race (pic related)
-Paladins, where do they fit into this?
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And this is the most recent WIP of GG's A-Z with the three blue ones being the contenders for the B position, not the positions they are necessarily in right now.
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This is unrelated to the holiday special.
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>>78446433
Nice.

Just what is /co/nrad doing there?
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>>78446673
Being alone and miserable, in his room.
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>>78445577
the reason i come to these. god bless.
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>>78445577
So, explain again how this character isn't just "she has huge tits."
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>>78447083

its more like huge tits comedy but thats about it.
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>>78447121
Don't start with him. We keep getting people bitching about the boob-centric ideas, and it always derails the threads.
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Could a great Indian hero defeat the toilet witch so they can finally poo in the loo?
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>>78448179
Only if she had TP
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http://flockmod.com/cove

Putting this out early this time around.
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>>78445577
The size of her tits kind of varies wildly from panel to panel. Like in C they're way huge whereas panel E seems more like the right size.
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>>78449385
I think it's a failed attempt at trying to apply physics to them.
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>>78446736
Well someone had to break his door down or one of his walls then.
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>>78448179
Would a female Indian character manage to avoid the PAJEET MY SON jokes?
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>>78450205
Yes, but they'd be replaced with gang rape jokes.
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OK, enough ink for today.

What did the /coc/ kids get for Christmas and what are they doing with their gifts today?
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OK, I guess we're all busy with stuff today.

>>78451509
What would Deelette get for Christmas?

Clothes? Dolls? Action figures? Some kind of monster pet?
What's appropriate for her?
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>>78452609
Probably some rad 90s shit. A Marty Mcfly red vest.
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>>78454092
What did Kid Cookie get then?
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>>78455268
That Marvel cookbook.
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>>78455618
I get the feeling he probably already had that.

I guess the more accurate question is what the parents of the /coc/ kids would get them.
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So would there be any holy order of knights in the /co/verse setting?

How does that fit in with the whole super hero thing that seems so dominant?
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>>78445577
For what it's worth I'm still monitoring the thread and waiting for some tie breaking votes on which panel to go with.

Also did this. Don't know if it's for this comic or what though.
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>>78459108
I still like the second B option since she's falling forward in it.
I don't know what the current votes are.

Could work for a standalone pic if we can't think of a suitable alliteration.
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>>78445531
Tackle?
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>>78460351
I don't follow.

>>78459358
And after thinking about it and remembering last thread, there's also the possibility of having it be the last panel in:

Panel one GG jolts out of bed because a hero alarm is going off
Panel two she's struggling to get her costume on while running (like hopping on one leg)
Panel three she gets stuck in the door on her way out
Panel four she's dealing with the speed of the bike causing her boobs to not be cooperative
Panel five she's punching a purse snatcher in the face
Panel six ggcivicduty.png

But would purse snatching cause the hero alarm to go off? Or would that be part of the joke?
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>>78460773
He's talking about Tackle from Kamen Rider v3.
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>>78461021
Oh.

>>78460351
No, that's Lovely Ladybug.
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>>78449343
>http://flockmod.com/cove
:'( noone is ever on when i join
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>>78461466
It's been dead for most of the day, so you really didn't miss much.
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>>78461466
There's probably a way to coordinate this.

Like, say you'll be doing drawings in the flockdraw from 10pm EST on Monday until 1am or something.
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Well, time to find out if the thread'll make it through the night.

Here's a passing thought, do heroes have mock battles with each other while being trained by hero organizations?
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>>78445577
Repitching a few of my suggestions from the last thread that didn't get a conclusive yea or nay:

>Dinosaur Danger!
>GG fighting dinosaurs because why not

>Keyboard/Keystroke Kerfuffle!
>Audrey's chest getting in the way when she attempts to work a typewriter

>Noisy Ne'er-do-wells!
>GG covering her ears while the Racketeer yells at her

>Oceanic Oddities!
>battling a giant octopus or Black Lagoon-style fishmen

>Odiferous/Olfactory Offenders!
>trying to fight a horrifically smelly villain (possibly a garbageman, or some sort of skunk theme)

>Outstanding/Oracular Optimism!
>Audrey fantasizing about her future as a superhero (something like Golden Guardian with SQ's shut-eyed heroic smile)

>Underwater Urgency!
>defusing a bomb? running out of air? both?
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Dear Anon who shared his idea about a girl who could summon Ra using his staff.

Here it is, sorry it's late, Merry Christmas.
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>>78466906
The Racketeer should be considered since he was one of GG and SQ's original rogues.

Would the Racketeer and Rocker Billy ever team up to make a bigger commotion, or do their views differ too much on what kind of loudness they want to make?
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>>78467191
I was actually thinking about that earlier. I don't think they'd get along; Billy's music isn't deafening enough for Racketeer's taste, and Racketeer's noise would probably inhibit the effectiveness of Billy's vocal powers.
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>>78467737
They might try to team up, with Racketeer using his stuff to make Billy's singing loud enough for the whole city to hear, but it would fall apart because it would be made too loud for anyone to actually carry out his orders.

It just feels like there's potential there.
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>>78466906
>Dinosaur Danger!
This makes me think of GG getting involved in a fight between Chaptor and Madam Danger.
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>>78455618
The full first season of Cooking with DOOM on DVD.
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>>78466974
Pretty cool looking.
>>78467737
Do we have a backstory for the racketeer?
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>>78468851
Does he need a backstory?

What would it add to his appearances?
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>>78448179
>>78449021
>>78450205
>>78450235
What if we weren't racist about a future superpower?
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>>78469769
More like future POOPER power.
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>>78445577
>>78447121
>>78447156
>>78460773
>>78466906

i forgot, was there a boy counter-part/equivalent to Golden Girl ever cemented into her universe? one who deals with the same early development issues as GG?

I dealt with looking like i was in my 20's since i was 14 full facial hair and everything. i say dealt with despite it only ever being a net positive, i.e. confidence, getting good at sports (being over 6 feet by age 12), getting treated more respectfully by adults, netting good looking/older chicks, rarely getting carded, etc but perhaps hes still rather emotionally undeveloped/unsure of himself in his superhero role because other people assume too much of him, expecting him to act older than he is, or placing more burden on him than than one should on a child

if there isn't currently, i think it would be a good addition to the comic to actually have a same-aged male sidekick maybe under the charge of an expy golden age superman or batman character who's friends with the silver queen.

this similarly-problemed young friend GG occasionally crosses paths with while beating up evil-doers could be the one person who can sympathize with and confide in GG and to whom she can reciprocate

it might add an element of seriousness the GG series doesnt necessarily warrant for such an adorable little comic, but if anyone else thinks this is a neat idea, i think their character interactions could add a depth in Audrey's character showcasing her vulnerability in always being the overburdened straight-man who's afraid her body might inhibit her from living up to her predecessor

or is that too much for a comedy?
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>>78471022
We actually talked about that early on, but we couldn't decide on anything that really worked as an equivalent to Audrey's chest.
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>>78471022
Just as long as it doesn't turn into a rehash of Big Dick Problems. A boy like that wouldn't work all that great as a constantly reoccurring character, but every now and then he could add to whatever "lore" the series may or may not develop over time by making an appearance when we want to do a joke at how much more developed (in other areas) GG becomes as it goes on.

Part of the joke is that just about no one is able to perceive GG's chest due to the comics code unless they are also in violation of it as part of their very character.
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>>78471116
>Big Dick Problems
there should be a one-shot villain based on this

i cant imagine Audrey wouldn't discover some sympathy for him while throwing him in jail
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>>78471429
A lot of the times the big dick would be the direct cause for physical harm happening to the guy its attached to.

Always tripping on it and falling off of cliffs, or it hitting the sun and catching fire, or bumping into Mars and launching the guy, or just smacking him in the face.

I think a large number of those comics are now missing since the tumblr that was being used to collect them never collected them all before it went cold.
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>>78471022
I don't think that would work very well in the very short format that has been adopted so far.
The idea of batman or superman secretly having the mind of a 14 year old is funny though and I'd be interested to see it used somewhere.
Also as >>78471092 said, most of the masculine indicators of maturity are either not visually obvious for the purpose of jokes or explicitly sexual.
But feel free to pitch ideas for your 14-year-old-mind-in-batman's-body superhero, maybe you can come up with somthing for it that would work in short form, all I could come up with is superhero themed variants on pic.
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>>78471022
Probably the best way to go about it would be to make him her Earth-11 counterpart. Something that shows up for a couple of gag strips but isn't recurring.

>>78471092 and >>78471116 do bring up a good point though. It was kind of tricky to figure out how to do it as a recurring thing and now it'd manifest without being too obviously a big dick problems thing. Finding the right tone for GG comics is kind of tricky, like for all the 34 and arguments that the character is nothing but her chest, the boobs really only come into play like 50% of the time in stuff like >>78445577 . Any Silver Age hero could fight a gorilla or a robot, or have secret identity woes.

>>78471563
>The idea of batman or superman secretly having the mind of a 14 year old is funny though and I'd be interested to see it used somewhere.
Shazam?
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>>78459358
>I don't know what the current votes are.
I also asked a couple people off site that I go to for art help and the current tally is

A (or G)
A's angle with B's pose
B
G (with flailing like in A and B)

So there's enough overlap that it's kind of hard to make a decision and I'm a little surprised that no one likes D since I thought that one turned out the best pose wise.
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>>78472300
>A's angle with B's pose
This could work. A different angle would definitely make B look better.
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>>78459108
Use this in place of G. Granny Guarding.
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>>78473718
I was thinking geriatric gallantry, myself.
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>>78472300
Since the alliteration is using "balance" I felt B was the one that showed her having balance problems the best.

D I thought was too similar to the ones where the issue isn't balance, but that she can't see her feet.
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>>78473925
After looking up what that means, that does sound like a better option.
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In keeping with the tradition of girls wrapped up like presents, here's a slightly belated Christmas gift from me to you. Happy holidays, /coc/.
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>>78474968
aawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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>>78472039
Dat aquawoman. Damn son.
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Okay, so before I go off and make stir fry, I took the feedback and redrew the potentials for panel B. Awaiting your decision and if there are no objections I'll also go with >>78459108 and >>78473925 in the G spot (no pun intended)
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>>78476765
And of course I forgot to add the picture.
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>>78476787
Definitely either D or G.
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>>78476787
I'm liking option D a lot more now, showing how her center of balance has shifted.
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Colette after losing her arms, she tried to be brave infront of Conrad and broke in tears after he left.
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>>78477047
Right, the bug rangers setting where Bees Knees, Lovely Ladybug, Alpha, and Mighty Mantis are fighting the Machine Cult who are a much bigger deal in this setting and are having a war on anyone who got superpowers by that big laser in the sky.
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>>78477107

I put that project on hold though. I doubt I'll manage to do a comic, so I decided to just draw pictures of /coc/ characters as practice.

I ge the idea for a picture from scenes which might or might not have happened in the bug rangers-verse though.
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>>78477260
Yeah, everything went on hold for me for the past couple of weeks.

Haven't made any further progress with that Erin story or done anymore space logs past just the cliff notes version.
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>>78476787
You know what I just found out?

I was typing "kommando k" into google search to see if it was actually spelled with a K, and aside from kommando kilts being the first result for reasons unknown, I realized that this could be something to use when we get sufficiently stumped.
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>>78479375
The drop down list that google gives you I mean.

Though I supposed K could be used for something Kid since we were talking about a villainous baby at some point with a magic something that lets him explosively replicate himself.
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>>78474968
I feel as if she wouldn't just return to human size because she doesn't want to destroy the stocking.
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>>78479375
Commando starts with a C. Spelling it with a K is like "X-treme" or "lazer." Cool-looking, but not accurate.
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>>78482799
It's spelled with a K in German.

And my point was that we could use google's drop down list of things it thinks we might be trying to type into it as a way of getting ourselves unstuck with the more difficult letter alliterations.
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On a scale from 0 to Oliver Reed, how drunk will Strummer get at the office New Year party?

Or would it be Hogmanay for her?
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>>78481177
Gotta save it or else Santa won't have anywhere to put her goodies!
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>>78483408
Can she even get drunk?

I've just been thinking of her powers as working like Wolverine's all this time.
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>>78483740
Placebo is a powerful thing.
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>>78483740
I don't think they're that fast. Probably works out that she can get fucked up then heal before the hang over hits.

Giving a delay stops her being over powered so she can't get her head caved in, then hide for a second, then be fine.

But the constant Wolverine comparisons make me wonder of she has any weapons, or if it's just yobbish arm swinging and kicking.
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>Inva Raleadra's log
>Star Date: 102.1132 PCD

>The crew I am currently traveling with has entered a ship of unknown design or origin.
>The only thing we know about it is that it contains or contained ships with cloaking devices.
>I have decided to follow them in after getting this PK armor working and selecting a weapon which makes me feel properly prepared.

>Upon entering the ship I'm already noticing spacial distortions.
>Ships that manipulate reality in this way are very rarely stable, I doubt it could take much direct damage if it were ever involved in an actual battle.
>The ship does not appear to have interface junctions of any recognizable configuration, I'd guess the occupants were not humanoid or were possibly telepaths.
>Based on the claw marks in the metal plating, it appears they were transporting dangerous game of some sort.
>This ship is too elaborate to belong to poachers, they've always gravitated towards more straightforward designs in my experience.
>Whatever was in here, it looks like they were keeping it in a controlled environment until it found a way out and damaged one of the reality stabilizers causing the blow out.
>They were probably doing something that would get them arrested in most areas of "civilized" space anyway.

>It seems I've already caught up with them.
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>>78485049
Inva sees the queen,
Inva: "By Aseratch, purge it now before it kills us all!" while leveling her heavy gun at it.
Cookie calmly walks into her line of fire, retracting the parts of his armor that cover his face.
Kay-2: "Cookie!"
Cookie: "It's fine."
Inva: "Get out of the way! I can shoot right through your armor and still kill that thing if I have to."
Cookie: "Inva, I don't know what this thing is, but you clearly do. I cannot, in good conscience, let you kill it, not until you tell me what this is at least."
Inva hesitates, thinking for a moment if this is the smart thing to do, until, with her gun still pointed at Cookie,
Inva: "It's a cruixir, a queen cruixir. Hive-minded devourers, they pick planets clean. The only effective way the old Azalfi Empire had of combating them was orbital bombardment. I thought they'd been wiped out."
Cookie: "And yet you clearly recognize it and react with appropriate fear. Why is that?"
Inva: "That's because I'm...! Because I'm an archaeologist!"
Kay-2: "What?" getting herself a tense glance from Cookie
Cookie: "You said these things are hive-minded. That means they share information telepathically, right? Would it stand to reason that they pass down memories from one generation to the next, sort've like genetic memory?"
Inva: "What are you getting at?"
Cookie: "I want to interrogate this cruixir to find out what happened here and whatever else it might tell us about this ship and who owned it."
Inva: "They don't talk."
Cookie: "I know someone who can make it talk."

too many words for one post
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OK, let's see if the thread makes it through the night.

>>78485107
Inva remains silent for a moment, deep in thought, before slowly lowering her weapon
Inva: "Alright, but keep that thing in an airlock. It was never possible to keep even one of them contained for long." before walking out of the room.
Kay-2: "What the hell were you thinking?!"
Cookie: "I had every confidence she wouldn't shoot me."
Kay-2: "Well what if she did?"
Cookie: "I had every confidence you would've stopped her before she pulled the trigger."
...
Cookie: "Yeah, an archaeologist? I'm surprised too."
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>>78482938
I think the only letters that have actually stumped us so far are X and Y.
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B is finally done, as is G. Although I think maybe G doesn't alliterate well phonetically anymore.

>>78466906
Well, as far as my opinions go:
Yes to D I think, pic related.
60% yes to K (if I can get the framing and pose right, which I think I can.. I have a vague idea for the concept but it requires a lot of details since it'd mean Silver Queen strapped to a rocket in the background)
No to N because it's a little too similar to its adjacent panel.
Yes to U, but I think it'd probably end up using the concept from O.


>>78471022
You. You need to be drawing more.
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>>78487549
The new panels look excellent!

Maybe we could move the Racketeer idea to V.

>Vociferous Villainy!
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>>78487291
>>78487549
-Xenial Xylitol - Something about getting sweet drinks for free.

-Yawnsome Yacking - someone talking too much leads to GG falling asleep in Z
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>>78489579
I'm not going to pretend I have somthing better at the moment but both of those sound like reaching.
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>>78490385
Oh with X I'm totally reaching, but with Y I think it's reasonable.

I don't think there's a way to do X without reaching.
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>>78489579
That X one is totally nonsensical. Something better would be Xiphoid Xenos - GG fighting some old timey aliens like the goofy ones from Buck Rogers.
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>>78490635
Once you do aliens, there's no going back.

It should be guys dressed as aliens trying to cash in on the Martian scare that one radio show caused way back when.
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>>78490879
>Once you do aliens, there's no going back

What is even the point of this statement? Are you trying to imply there weren't goofy one-shot alien villains in the golden age?
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>>78490937
I just don't like the idea of involving aliens in this particular project.

Once alien technology gets thrown into the mix, it just feels like it'll keep growing and overshadow everything else in the setting with the way these threads go.
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>>78491276
As someone pointed out before this is just a lighthearted montage of stuff, not an actual strip. There's no "story" ramifications. Furthermore GG is just supposed to be a gag strip anyway, it doesn't have a narrative or deep characterizations. Your worries are totally unfounded.
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>>78491391
I never know what to worry about here. Any little thing could catch on.

What do these old timey aliens even look like?
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>>78493310
Something like this? I'm pretty sure it was explicitly stated that /co/ should NOT overthink GG specifically to avoid any continuity to preserve it's status as a gag strip.
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>>78493372
Reminds me a bit of that jetpack scientist guy in two of the panels right now.
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>>78494365
There's plenty of retro alien designs to draw inspiration from.
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>>78483972
Imagine a world where Strummer was in to Shoegaze rather than punk.

I'm sure her healing powers would stop her going deaf at 30.
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>>78490635
>Xiphoid Xenos
Sword-shaped aliens?
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>>78497305
Or maybe aliens with swords. That seems a bit less retarded.
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>>78497336
It leaves GG wondering where the ray guns are.
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>>78498156
Either that or they could just have a big sword emblem on their chest and use some of these if you wanna really home in on that classic 50s feel.
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>>78499531
The zap gun shoots swords.
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>>78500225
Sure why not, a swordgun would be trivial technology to an alien.
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>>78500251
Curved swords, like the wide ones from India.

They do that spinning thing when they materialize and start moving at high speeds.
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Gonna dump my webcomic now
please critique
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>>78501018
End of dump
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>>78501018
>>78501030
Better than what I'm currently capable of, but you probably want this thread >>78378431
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Would aliens be more likely to have beam guns or miniature rail guns with compact power supplies?
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>>78502561
For the purpose of a legit alien civilization? Rail gun. For a goofy 50s scifi alien caricature? Beam gun.
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>>78502649
We never seem to see spaceships equipped with railguns in fiction for some reason.

They almost always have lasers.
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>>78503973
Directed energy weapons are actually pretty shit. Pulse laser is the best way to go but even then the destructive energy of a rail gun, especially one meant for ship-to-ship combat would far, far outpace it.
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>>78504002
Then of course there's forcefields to consider.
We actually have those now, even though they are very tiny.
If they could ever be implemented on a larger scale they'd work like the ones you see in Star Wars where it keeps the atmosphere in, but solid objects can pass through it just fine.

The spaceships in fiction always have energy shields, which I guess would be like an electromagnetic pulse radiating away from the ship repelling matter.

But anyway, I've had a thought since the time to the New Year is ticking down.
How would a /coc/ villain go about stopping the new year from coming?

There is of course physically stopping the Earth in its orbit, but that wouldn't stop time, which I would think is the intended effect.
If it were possible to create an anthropomorphic personification and then kidnap it, I suppose that could work.
Or perhaps a disruption of the natural Narrative could do it.
A fumigation of The Archives might do it, but it could just as well subjugate all verses contained within to fighting living clouds.

As for the motive, some entity is impossibly behind on their given task (they bought all these games and have no time to play them situation) and wants to get things done, but as long as time continues to flow, the queue just gets bigger.
Such an entity would need to exist outside of time, so probably a /Co/smic One.
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>>78504658
>How would a /coc/ villain go about stopping the new year from coming?

1. Find the upcoming Baby New Year
2. Falcon Punch Abortion
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>>78504658
But if they stop time then the annual crossover slumber party is cancelled!
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>>78504754
The baby new year isn't actually born though, they just pop into existence when the ball drops.

It's much harder to kill an anthropomorphic personification since they are byproducts of belief and are maintained by said belief.
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>>78504794
>The baby new year isn't actually born though, they just pop into existence when the ball drops.
Then punch the ball.
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>>78505088
Steal the ball, then suspend it in an anti-gravity field. No ball drop, no new year.
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>>78505255
Yes, we're getting closer to that "just crazy enough to work" logic now.

So the ball needs to be stolen, but by who and who has that person been hired by?

An Editor of the Narrative hires The /co/llector to steal the ball so as to take advantage of human belief and its effect on reality to suspend the passage of time to catch up on his backlog?
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>>78507307
At least bump with something that's not been posted for the last 3 or 4 threads.
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>>78507350
That would require new stuff be made. Besides Bri Fighter Alpha never gets posted.
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>>78507362
That image's been posted with the sole purpose of bumping the thread for several weeks now.
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>>78507563
Well excuse me princess.
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>>78507608
Queen. Mom's dead.
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>>78507759
>>78507771
>>78507806
Glad he went with long hair.
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Bingo! We finally have a complete row!
That and the WIP for K are the good news. The bad news is between having to look up references of Wonder Woman tied to rockets and other projects, I won't be able to work on this anymore until the 1st so this is probably the last update for the thread.

So see you guys on Saturday if it dies before then!
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>>78507994
Take your time, dude. It's cool.
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>>78507994
Looks great so far.
I have a problem with erroneous entries though; It doesn't look like she's entering anything.
Is anyone else bothered by this or am I wrong?
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>>78508159
>Is anyone else bothered by this
No.
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>>78508159
It's her entry to the fight.
Like an actor arriving on the stage.

You know, "Nice entry."

>>78507994
Nice.

But I think the filesize limit on /co/ is 4mb.
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>>78508418
But there's no indicator that a fight is taking place.
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>>78508445
Next panel is a fight.
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>>78508418
>>78508445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDOZ_hyu7Lo
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>>78508477
But there's no direct continuity between any of the other panels, which just make it confusing.
Also there's nothing visibly erroneous about what she's doing either.
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>>78508527
It's a bunch of different gags based on alliteration, dude. Calm down.
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>>78508527
>no direct continuity between any of the other panels
It's not supposed to be directly continuous. This >>78508477 anon is as wrong as you are.
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>>78508477
If you wanted to do it like that, you could make it so she's going through a window in E and the window is visible in the background in F.
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>>78508418
>But I think the filesize limit on /co/ is 4mb.
Wow yeah that will be a problem.
Do you think if I convert it to grey-scale that'll help? Not entirely sure how to lower the file size without making the image itself smaller.
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>>78509023
You could just link it offsite. Imgur or something.
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>>78509023
Make it a .jpg

As long as you don't keep recompressing the same jpg, it won't be a problem.
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>>78477298

I still would like to draw some kind of story with a bittersweet, sad, tragic or soul crushing moment, as those are my favorite moments in any medium.
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>>78509038
Imgur causes quality loss with larger images uploaded to it.

I think even wikia has problem with images with larger dimensions.
I think even wikia has issues with images once their dimensions exceed 5000px.
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>>78508527
GG is fighting an ape in S.
SQ comes in and knocks its block off in T.
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>>78510409
There's an option for that.
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>>78511570
It's been a while since I've used imgur, so I was unaware of that feature.
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>>78494972
>shoegaze

Totally the rock music Elves would make if Elves existed.

...Do Elves exist in /coc/ Britain/Europe?
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>>78514179
They primarily exist in The Wandering Country, which wanders around some portion of Europe, and it's only ever been said that Dark Elves live there.
They're said to be nice enough, always on the move though.

The pale ones that come to mind when you think "elf" and it's not Christmas time live on some dimensional plane somewhere and get their post through the Courier's Guild.
They're assholes who never heard of the phrase "don't shoot the messenger".

The fae, as in fairies, have some presence in some parts of Britain.
It was mentioned that there was never a distinction made by humans between the various "fair folk" (elves, fairies, whatever) until modern times, so "fae" just meant all of them, not just fairies.
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>>78514179
Just totally imagined an elf/human buddy cop duo, with the Elf still looking barely past 20, while being too old for this shit.
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>>78514179
There's a healthy population of fair folk, but those are more the classical elves (read: fairies) than Tolkien elves. Though the latter exist in the Wandering Country.
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Do we still talk about BreastQuest?
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>>78515559
As a nomadic society/culture, what kind of things do you think they live in?

Do they set up tents or do they have homes on wheels pulled by some sort of animal?
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>>78516680
Sure if you've got something regarding it you wanna discuss.
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>>78516680
It gets brought up almost every thread, but without someone to actually draw the pages, there isn't much to talk about.
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>>78516693
Well I found out what it was and went over the docs since the last thread. It's some cool shit but there's nothing as far as the story is concerned past the first issue and with the archive gone any forward progress was lost. I guess I wanna talk about what happens next.
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>>78516680
I will never not be mad that her eye brows are so small.

>>78516684
Always imagined that character as the rooster from Disney's Robin Hood. Like a semi-4th wall breaking narrator that's part of the universe.
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>>78516858
That's why Bri is best girl, the resplendent brows.
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>>78516858
That might be a fun way to think of D'Lahlah since she's just a wandering hobo right now (who is also part of an organization that keeps an eye on people who others usually wouldn't consider watching).
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>>78516777
There was a summary for what boobanon had planned for the follow up issues, but she didn't want to write them all out unless someone was actually going to keep drawing it.

Or at least that's what I think happened.
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>>78517223
>>78516858
So, this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrGmcuj44DQ
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>>78517454
The immediate follow up for issue one was a battle between Briana and Sharon, leading to a draw. Briana retreats to Los Lesbos where she meets Laura and Carmilla and subsequently trashes their bar in a fight with a bounty hunter. They join Briana since their bars all fucked up. This is also where Briana gets her super gun from a Cattleya-esque gunsmith.
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>>78518248
Seems like an option, only with a theremin.

>>78518570
There were a bunch of greentext summaries for the plots of future scripts.
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>>78518861
Yes but obviously we don't have those anymore since they weren't saved and the archive exploded. We'll have to make due with our own creativity.
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>>78518861
>only with a theremin

Pretty random, XD
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>>78518900
Provided the archives for /co/ will be fully imported from moe to desustorage (with exception of those 4 months), then we should be able to find those greentexts sometime next year.
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>>78518570
>Cattleya-esque

I like this idea. Does she retain her kind, soft-spoken attitude or is she more aggressive? Also are her tits still gigantic?
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>>78519447
With a name like BreastQuest I'd assume that'd be a given.
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>>78519447
>>78520829
I don't think she should get her super gun in issue 2. Maybe like the frame from not-Cattleya and the further instructions on what she needs for it that she gets at a later date.
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>>78522087
I think she should realize she needs a better weapon by issue 2.
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>>78523156
Well the original plan was that her first revolver gets destroyed in the bar fight. Maybe Cattleya sells her a new one but realizes she can actually handle the supergun frame and gives it to her just in case she can get the whole thing together.
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>>78516684
That's got to be the one thing she fights with Jackalope about. Maybe they're both good-hearted country folk who ramble over flyover country and look out for the little guy, but he's a banjo man who don't take kindly to squeaky elf noiseboxes.
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>>78524107
The H.I.N. look after the homeless, runaways, and other people you'd think of as "not going to be missed" if they disappeared.

The Jackalope strikes me as the type who tries to be involved in things that the public are aware of.
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>>78524357
He's a square, for sure. And yeah, maybe he wants to be noticed a little more than he is. Maybe he thinks he can help more people by raising awareness of struff.
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>>78524670
The last time we were talking about him was with the monster ally idea where giant monsters take the place of tornadoes in the North American mid-west.

Monster Busters make their living defending towns from them and subduing the monsters by whatever means they have.
Or they do it for fame and glory.
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>>78523671
Should split it up into 2-3 parts. Cattleya would have the frame, and then the cylinder and barrel could be found elsewhere. The grip Briana could probably make herself.
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>>78527053
Is it really wise to split a concept over three issues when we don't even have one?
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>>78527078
A huge majority of the shit that gets discussed in these threads ultimately goes nowhere. Doesn't do any harm to throw some ideas at the wall.
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>>78527141
>A huge majority of the shit that gets discussed in these threads ultimately goes nowhere.
This is why though. The bigger the project the more daunting it is to actually get done. The smaller and looser it is the more content you get.

I like the idea of a wasteland master blacksmith being the source of Bri's gun and I think the setting could use a character like that since I didn't really get the sense there were many engineer types, but if you can condense that sort of thing into like, 2 pages, then it's wiser to do so since two pages have a greater likelihood of finding a charitable enough drawfag than 20+
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>>78527267
Alright, that's fine, but how do you propose to limit the power of this supergun, especially if it's coming into play in only the second issue?
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>>78527496
You could go the outlaw star route and make it so ammunition is incredibly rare and takes a lot of time and resources to produce. Maybe also add in something with the recoil being dangerously powerful even for a superhuman like Bri.
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>>78527583
That's a fair compromise. Now the visual design of the gunsmith. Even if she's a Cattleya expy, she obviously can't look just like her. How about red hair, done up in a bun. Maybe something like pic related for an outfit, and of course humongous knockers.
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>>78527830
We have enough busty redheads as it is in these threads.
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>>78528570
This one is an off character in BQ. She'll appear on-panel for maybe 2 pages, I think it's fine. Besides I don't hear you making any suggestions.
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>>78528644
Can't be blonde because Bri is blonde, and redheads are overplayed, so I vote for brunette.
Also how long after the end is this?
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>>78528922
Brunette is acceptable I suppose.

>Also how long after the end is this?
The end of what?
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>>78528922
Long enough for a cult to gain power because of their base siting on top of a tech cache, but not long enough for an even bigger society to be built on top of the ruins.
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>>78528997
The apocalypse? I thought that was fairly self explanatory.

>>78529233
So, not long enough for there to be anyone that remembers what it was like before, then.
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What if we had a female character who had some sort of ideal or personal stake in something, and wasn't just objectifying ways of making their body the main part of their world view?

And don't even try to make arguments that the massive tits are actually a complex statement about some-such this-or-that, or part of subtle world building. It's not, and you just embarrass yourself trying to make it so.
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>>78529291
BQ takes place around a century or so after the cataclysmic events that ruined society. So there'd be no human survivors that remember the old world, but machines never forget.

>>78529233
>cult
Assuming your talking about the DFC, it's not a theocracy. DFC is an extension of a pre-cataclysm political movement that took over the surviving megacity. Although Plana may see herself as a goddess, she is not literally worshipped by her people as such, although she is fervently adored.
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>>78529355
Ok, make a pitch then. We're all waiting for you.
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>>78529355
>You can't have goals or a personality if you're larger than a B cup
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>>78529374
There's already such characters that have the beginning concept of an ideal, but are ignored n favor of specific objectifying aspects (and this goes for certain behaviours as well as innate design) that can be exploited.

I think the fact that your response was "then make a character like that," rather than "here are some characters like that," is very telling.

There are characters who began like that, but got morphed over time to fulfil a sexual niche.

>>78529456
Didn't even imply that. Here's your reply.
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>>78504792
Briana is so perfect in every way...
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>>78529765
Then stop whining and make a new one that a solid foundation can be made for. You're not winning any favors by complaining. You (I'm pretty sure you're the same guy) have made this complaint for several weeks and never propose anything, never create anything, or even bring up solid examples. It's all anecdotal with you and frankly it's bordering on shitposting. Again, make a pitch. Newer things get discussed more.
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>>78529765
Though titties. It's called Breast Quest. What did you expect, you ding-dong?

>Didn't even imply that
You sure are pushing it like that, if you still think that the inherent nature of something called Breast Quest doesn't come with people liking big fat tats, or that. after all this time, there's been no effort on leaving the main character as just a pair of talking tits. I'd call this bait, but I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt. Although, reading the post again, it does make for a good laugh, mate.
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>>78529866
She's a cutie alright.
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>>78529765
>Didn't even imply that.
Sure you didn't. By asking for characters that have ideals or personal stakes without boobs you're implying that the two are mutually exclusive.
This argument shows up twice a thread and the same responses are given every time. Lurk more.
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>>78445577
That last panel is better than everything else on this board.
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>>78529355
What about Erika? I am fairly certain the plot I came up with for her objectifies her in no way.
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>>78530160
>objectifies her in no way
You're not the real devil!
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>>78530193
Sure, I am. It was such a good story that you would convert to worshiping Thor.

Christ was nailed to a cross. Thor has a hammer. Any questions?
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>>78529869
>>78529869
You're missing the point I was attempting to make. We don't need to create a new character, we can just revisit the central concept behind characters that have been morphed over time. Tatyana started as a world-wise traveller and investigator. Someone who would jet off to some remote or foreign location and get into some kind of adventure or escapade. Mistrustful of larger systems, but close to the regular people. Friendly with Kurdish boarder guards and Mongolian farmers, but suspicious of police, government and the clandestine nature of superheroes. This is why the idea of her having a motorcycle picked up steam at the start, because it's a way to have total freedom, while also still not having to worry too much about "how would she have that?"

This is all forgotten in favor of her being a pervert who likes taking pictures of sexy women.

What I would like to do is revisit this central idea, and try and distil ideas thrown around at this time to try and make a character that hasn't been, for lack of a better word, compromised, by this aspect.

I'm imagining a character with mismatched accessories to a centrally western look. Like they have a Native American shoulder bag from one friend in one adventure, a genuine kaffiyeh from another, or other things along this theme, not literally these things. Both a method of character development, representation and backstory, which can be implied continuously (why does she have a lighter with the Finnish flag on it? That's a story for another day), and filled in when required. Basically imagine Indy's hat, only for a lot more of her character. She's a traveller by nature, and an answerer of a call, with this call being issued from both an agent, and her being acted against (again, think Indiana Jones, and how he has adventures start from an agent (Raiders) and fate (Temple)).

(1/2)
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>>78530282
What this does is, in my opinion, take the pulp/eurocomic tradition of an adventurer, and separate them from the superhero genre in concept. They're not unaware of it, just separate from it.

You could just say "that sounds like Tatyana," but this hasn't been Tatyana for a long time. This also seperates the character from a backstory more interesting than she is. A young woman getting mad at superheroes is far less interesting than her anti-government wistleblower father.

This is just all my thoughts on just one character, which I have already spoken long enough on, but the same also is true for many others. But now I'm sure you can see where my thoughts are heading. The same also is true of the loyal and dutiful Marian becoming just the straight man to Strummer's insanity (which is another issue in itself), and how Erin's design ended up making it so the entire Demon universe was built around such concepts, rather than the original idea of a barely organised mish-mash of anything that could be considered possible.

(2/2)
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>>78530282
Tatyana started off as a premade waifu by some faggot that wanted to control every aspect of her. People said fuck off and made her into something fun instead.
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>>78529869
>You (I'm pretty sure you're the same guy) have made this complaint for several weeks

You say that too often. It makes you sound paranoid.
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>>78530282
>>78530297
tl;dr
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>>78530282
What about the Ladybug? What's wrong with her?
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>>78530320
Lucy, you're as wrong as ever.
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>>78530324
Aren't you doing the same thing by assuming he's the same guy pointing it out every time?
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>>78530342
Fair enough.

The issue with him doing it is he treats it like it's a rebuttal or defense. Like a "we already had this argument and I already won" kind of thing.
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>>78530361
That was probably me actually, and I was piss drunk at the time.

Fer real though I get that you want variety or whatever but the way you frame it makes it seem like you can't look past the surface details of the concepts that you seem to take issue with to see anything else there. Which, you know, is ironic because there's also an implication that the people you're arguing with are guilty of it while you are not for some reason.

The thing is there's no NEED to defend those characters or concepts. There's barely a need to rebutt the argument at all. No one is trying to "hide" anything, no one is trying to pull a Diaz, and while it might not be you specifically, the only people that seem to be unable to ascribe depth to the characters beyond boobs are the complainers.
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>>78530447
>Fer real though I get that you want variety or whatever but the way you frame it makes it seem like you can't look past the surface details of the concepts that you seem to take issue with to see anything else there.

See, this is what I mean though. I'm not that guy.
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>>78530691
Fair enough, but I kind of meant a more general you (the royal you?) rather than you, specifically.

People in general that go "Ew fanservice I can't take this seriously there's no way it can have any depth beyond this" are a pet peeve because things can have multiple levels.
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>>78530447
>the only people that seem to be unable to ascribe depth to the characters beyond boobs are the complainers.

To me, (and I'm not who you've been arguing with), it's like if someone were to say they don't like Coconut cream pie because they don't like coconuts and you respond with "Well it has other ingredients."

It's still a pie for people who like big, round coconuts. Saying "I'm not fond of the character concepts or setting because the primary selling point is giant tits." doesn't sound like an unreasonable statement.

The major issue is probably that all of you coconut lovers had your own threads where liking coconuts was implicit, so you stopped seeing it as the primary focus when that's clearly how it looks to everyone that wasn't a part of it.
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>>78530751
>selling point is giant tits
>>78530691
>>78530733
It's been way past that selling point, mate. Seems like, even among people that love tits, you're the only one harping about it.
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>>78530320
Maybe yes, maybe no. But I see this character being far more proactive than Tatyana (who is more passive and reactive) was ever shown to be. Less of the distant observer of events, she'd be a direct actor of them. She's also more open to action scenes, were it wouldn't be outside of her character to end up with in a firefight with pirates.

I see her being also a drop out student, but not really intentionally. A first or early adventure being a field trip that ends up going really wrong when it's revealed that this was all a change for her tutor to get her/his hands on some mystical power-granting power. So after this they drop out of education to be an adventurer full time.

Whether this tutor remains a recurring villain (like von Croy) or is a one-time origin story probably doesn't even matter. Whether or not the hero even wins the day can also serve to propel them to further adventures.
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Does anybody have the Teuthoids's original design? (the one with tentacle hair)
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>>78530783
>you're the only one
I'm not even the only one you quoted.
This continues to be wrong every time.
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>>78530751
>It's still a pie for people who like big, round coconuts. Saying "I'm not fond of the character concepts or setting because the primary selling point is giant tits." doesn't sound like an unreasonable statement.
The problem is one the phrasing and framing of the argument.
It's almost never framed as just a "I don't like thing" because if that's all it was? That's a personal taste thing and you're entitled to it.

That's not what happens here. What happens here is it gets framed as a really obvious to the point of bait sounding rhetorical question (like >why is it like this? when there's a wiki that explains why everything is like everything. and it's in the second line of the thread. Or there's a bunch of accusations and assumptions (character/story is only coconuts and nothing but coconuts!)
Second post in every /coc/ thread is a list of what was happening the week before. On average, it's six to eight things. Sometimes even more. And occasionally, not even usually, but maybe once every other month because of the nature of these board projects, occasionally ONE of those six to eight things has coconuts. And yeah, coconuts get a lot of hype and energy, but that doesn't mean those six to eight other things stop existing for you (not you specifically, but in general) to enjoy and discuss and build on rather than complain about the one thing that does.

tl;dr : You're allowed not to like coconuts. Everyone is. But then don't go all Lisa the Vegetarian on the thread.
(heh. /coc/onuts)
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>>78530795
This is good and all, but how would she duck and roll in a gun battle with tits twice as big as her head.
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>>78531405
Don't get coconuts in his lemon meringue.
And like this.
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>>78531526
What if she was cursed with giant tits and now has to journey the world on adventures trying to undo the curse?
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>>78531598
Then it'd be a different character.
I see what you're doing and it's not going to work.
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>>78531669
>Then it'd be a different character.

Anon never mentioned any physical aspects of her or what happened to drive her to adventure.

Big tits curse is perfectly valid until someone puts something better forward.
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>>78531721
>Anon never mentioned any physical aspects of her or what happened to drive her to adventure.
He doesn't have to because we already have those
http://the-collection.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=tatyana_petrovna
http://the-conservatory.wikia.com/wiki/Tatyana_Petrovna

Lurk moar you spectacularly awful person. False flagging requires actual intel so that it can be seamless.
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>>78531789
Read: >>78530282 >>78530297

New character with big tits on adventure.
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>>78531812
I would say to >>78530282 the same thing I'm saying to you right now:

If you aren't happy with a character as is, make a new one. You don't have the right to piss on everyone else's parade under the guise of "fixing" things or "revisiting" them into your headcanon as to how they were before they got "ruined" by the board.

I'm a fan of big tits but I want original ones because a grown ass man can get his own toys. He doesn't have to take them from the guy next to him. You want a character with big tits I'll support the shit out of that, but I won't support adding them onto someone that doesn't have them already.
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>>78531878
That is a new character, a new character if giant tits.

This character HAS to have giant tits or the SJWfag wins.
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I always see the general consensus being, that the perverted, funny, silly, meta and/or homoseual version of a character is considered more canon than averything else, therefore you always get the argument "but its not the same character anymore" as soon as you suggest a rather more serious approach.

I guess that is how /coc/-threads are and most of the time, there is no point in such suggestions.
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>>78531902
You seem to be thinking my responses mean I'm falling for the act so I'm gonna pull out now and do laundry.

>>78531923
Serious ideas have their merits, yes, but they're much less malleable. With a serious idea you can deviate from the core much at all, which essentially means an editor. It means the flow of ides gets stymied and forget about getting content because then yo have to worry about it being in character, respecting the canon, and who really wants to deal with that except the one or two guys that got their thoughts in on the ground floor?

There's nothing wrong with a serious or introspective character. But you better be prepared to do the lion's share of the work yourself then. I'd say "look what happened to Motion" but you would've had to been around for that to get what I'm trying to say.
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>>78531789
>tatyana
Please at least attempt to read the thread.
>"But I see this character being far more proactive than Tatyana (who is more passive and reactive) was ever shown to be. Less of the distant observer of events, she'd be a direct actor of them."
"This also seperates the character from a backstory more interesting than she is. A young woman getting mad at superheroes is far less interesting than her anti-government wistleblower father. "
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>>78532102
What exactly is that quoted segment suppose to be proving?
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>>78532047
>I'd say "look what happened to Motion" but you would've had to been around for that to get what I'm trying to say.

Motion does seem to have reached a point where the dramatic take is working, but that probably is due to there being a strong creative voice that has taken direction of her.
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>>78532119

The response (to a post highlighting the positive differences to a certain character) is to highlight the character being criticized. The counter to this is to isolate the differences between the two characters.

A character's flaw is that she's based on superhero logic, rather than adventure logic. Also not being an active participator in events, but rather a passive observer.
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>>78532102
Tats has kind of a problem of being in the wrong genre for her shtick to work. Whereas her father was airing legitimate grievances against a totalitarian dictatorship, the majority of /co/verse are too upstanding for there to be real problems for her to be upset about.
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>>78529359
Are we going to officially canonize the "exploding moon, meteor shower" source for the BQ cataclysm? To me that seems the one with the most flavor. Nukes are out completely, am I right? Too cliche?
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>>78532332
The whole thing didn't explode but I think that's sudden enough for an advanced civilization to be caught by surprise and almost wiped out. Plus large fragments could be responsible for city/country wide destruction leaving only the ruins intact.
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>>78532332
Yeah, nuclear apocalypse is super played out.
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>>78532208
None of it really matters, since her shtick is now "is a pervert who takes photos of sexy women."

This entire theme of discussion is pointless.

And because we can have five characters whose deal is large breasts, but only one who, at one point, may have travelled to another country, nothing will ever go in either direction.
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>>78532724
You sure know how to throw a fit. I don't think anyone in this thread is as good as pissing and moaning as you. If you think there's only 1 character like that then make another.
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>>78532419
Plus a meteor shower type thing has the added bonus of clearing out the space around Earth so the question of space stations and satellites can be explained.
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>>78532789
Someone did. It just made everyone mad.
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>>78532923
Where?
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>>78532952
Here: >>78530282 >>78530297 >>78530795
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>>78532975
That's a vague idea lifted from another character. That's as close to nothing as you can get. What's this person's name? Where does she/he live? What kind of person are they? What do they do, and why do they do it? If it's just "Tats but not" then nothing of value has been created. Ideas need to coalesce into an actual structure.
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>>78533047
>creations by /co/ (hence /co/ creations - /coc/)
>"Why is one guy not doing everything?"
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>>78533084
You're the one with the big idea slick. If you want it to get some traction, you'll have to give people a reason to give enough of a shit about your character to WANT to contribute. As previously stated, you've just got some sort of vague outline lifted from another character. Nobody is gonna give a shit about that. I mean fuck you haven't even given her a name. Now the name may change in time, but the simple fact that you cared enough to give her/him one shows people that you're at least somewhat serious about it. You don't even have that.
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Hey, do we have luchadors?
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>>78533153
What do you have in mind?
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>>78533213
Public Defendor, the super hero defense lawyer!
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