Was anything even cool about Ultimate Marvel?
I mean aside from Spidey.
>>78398683
Shulk cumming when she transformed, and female Vision.
Reed.
>>78398732
>Shulk cumming when she transformed
That's news to me.
>>78398790
It actually makes sense for her character, given how hulking works in Ultimate, but it's also pure fanservice.
>>78398831
This is sogood
>>78398831
Artist? Is it same guy/girl from Civil War tie-in to Secret Wars?
>>78399095
It's Leinil Yu.
>>78398683
Canon incest?
Cool stuff from Ultimate Marvel:
>Spider-man
>Millar/Hitch Ultimates
>Ellis Fantastic Four
>Ellis Galactus Trilogy
>Millar X-Men
>Vaguhan X-Men
>Hickman Ultimates
>Wood X-Men
>Fialkov Ultimates
>A bunch of random minis
Yeah. There was cool stuff.
>>78398683
the first 2 Ultimates
It gave us The Maker. I mean, batshit insane Reed just makes sense, and he has a pretty minimalistic costume which works for him.
has anyone trying going back and re-reading USM?
I recently did trying to get my cousin into comics (and reading in general) and they were way cringeworthy and not even as fun as I remembered
its funny Bendis was my first favorite writer and now I despise most he does
maybe its just my perception of him thats skewing my opinion on USM this second time
but really
was it good?
or just like right spot, right time and took advantage of a new generation of kids who enjoyed the self-insert and couldn't identify with an adult, married Peter as much
I had only finished it recently (a few months ago as a 23 year old and I loved it! One of the things that turned me away from comics in the first place was the inconsistancy of all the different writers, artists, etc. But as USM had the same two guys for what.. 100 issues? The story didn't fly all over the place. It felt like the essental Spider Man story for a more modern time.
>>78399719
Yeah but only Hickman/ Fialkov Maker
Humphries and Kekwing write him awful
>>78399868
>Kekwing
Do you really think shit like that is clever or funny?
What happen to him?
>>78398683
Ultimate Iron Man, Ultimate Thor, Ultimate FF before Ultimatum fuckery,Ultimate Cap.
>>78400085
He died in Incursion, and Bendis gave zero fucks about Peter by that point, he simply brought him back to give Miles another fucking pat on the back. Though his personality flipped like a fucking switch. He also brought him back to probably make Ultimate Spidey fans stop complaining. Meanwhile Goblin fight was the shittiest thing I saw from the run, along with Goblin basically killing everyone for no reason other than "GOTTA CLEAN HOUSE".
>>78398683
I loved Ult Spider-Woman
>RIP
The first 2 ultimates were Fuccing amazing imo
>>78398683
I loved the story where you didn't know whether Thor was an Asgardian God or an insane hippy bum
It was really him?
>>78399318
This. There is more good Ultimate comics than bad.
>>78398683
Everything was cool, until Loeb came in
>>78399769
>was it good?
>or just like right spot, right time and took advantage of a new generation of kids
Both.
>>78399318
Wood X-Men takes a nosedive early on, mostly due to massive level of decompression.
Ultimate X-Men had some decent material, and Ultimates 1/2/Hickman were 4/5.
>>78402456
I agree but the bad was really really bad.
>>78402846
Yeah, but you could say that about most things.
>>78398831
Thanks Millar
>>78404236
Not Millar. That was Damon Lindelof.
>>78398831
>breasts grow first
MORE!!!!!!!!!!
>>78400063
I don't know, why don't you ask your mom's bull about it?
>>78400098
only read first Ultimate Thor trade, how many and are they good?
> Ultimates v1 - great
> Ultimates v2 - great
> Ultimates v3 - OK / Meh
> Ultimatum - bad-ish I guess
I don't get what the fucking problem is, edgy shock value doesn't bother me, the universe was meant to do dark stuff you can't in the main verse, they did so and you hate on it, don't get it.
> Ultimate Avengers - good
> Ultimate Avengers 2 - good
> Ultimate Avengers 3 - Bad
> New Ultimates - really good
> UA vs NU - good
> Hickman's Ultimates - Fucking Phenomenal
> Ultimate Hawkeye - Great
> Ultimate Power - low OK / meh
> Ultimate Doomsday trilogy - Great
> Ultimate Secret - great
> parts 2 and 3 of Ultimate Galactus tilogy - good
>>78404636
Well memed, /tv/. Come back when you actually read comics.
>>78404791
There's a difference between dark and THEEDGE. One is well-written, the other isn't. That being said it wasn't a terrible event as far as events go. The real crime is how many rules they broke after (no coming back from the dead, permanent consequences etc.)
>>78404791
>> Ultimates v3 - OK / Meh
>> Ultimatum - bad-ish I guess
Objectively wrong.
>>78404791
>OK / Meh
>bad-ish I guess
Fucking millennials have absolutely no grasp on own language.
>>78404804
>implying you were on /co/ before the MCU
>implying you were born before the MCU
>>78404852
doubleplusungood
Ultimate thor is cool
>>78400134
I don't think Bendis was even thinking about what he was writing or had any ideas to use. He was just filling in words for the check, holy shit.
>>78404791
>Ultimate Doomsday trilogy - Great
>>78399325
Eh...
>>78405046
The second makes up for the faults of the first by giving character like Bruce much more to do than...not much at all
>>78404791
>New Ultimates - really good
>Doomsday - great
>Not knowing that Secret is Part 2 of the trilogy
I know opinions and all, but this is shit.
>>78404823
> There's a difference between dark and THEEDGE. One is well-written, the other isn't.
No its not, there is nothing inherently flawed writing wise about the Blob eating wasp, it's just gruesome.
>>78404852
I'm 24.
>>78404984
Loved what they did with Reed, first time I have ever felt sympathy and emotion about Sue, scene with her beaten half to death being operated on in the hospital while withering in pain was heartbreaking and realisic. Rafa provided all around great art.
Having the Thing become that universe's Wonder Man was unique and interesting.
And more of the Ultimate Captain Marvel who is bad freaking ass.
>>78405983
>liking ultimate Sue
>enjoying cannibal Blob
lmao there goes your credibility
how much do you weigh neckbeard?
>>78405881
New Ultimates was a perfectly good Thor & Loki centric Avengers story with fucking great art by Cho, badass sexy stuff with Zarda. Cho was almost better at drawing Ultimate Thor than Hitch was.
Interesting stuff with Valkyrie.
Your right my bad, Nightmare is the one I consider great secret and the 3rd arc are mearly good.
>>78399769
I think that's how it is for most of us when it comes to Bendis. We liked what he did with USM, Daredevil, and Alias. It's just that for over a decade he's been riding the coattails of his past success and writes books that are outside of his wheelhouse. He's good at street level stuff, anything he writes outside of that ranges from mediocre to awful.
>>78406058
I only like Sue in that Individual trilogy.
Haven't read any of the other Ultimate F4 stuff. And yes I know she is a cunt that dumped Reed to Whore out.
I do not enjoy cannibal blobb, I am indifferent to it.
I don't see why it is flawed writing to write that.
>>78406119
>Haven't read any of the other Ultimate F4 stuff. And yes I know she is a cunt that dumped Reed to Whore out.
There's a disparity in quality of writing.
Sue aside, that story you're referencing where Sue is a "cunt" is about the same quality as the Ultimate Doomsday Trilogy. In that it relies on a complete assassination of the characters and how they were carried for most of the series.
Including Reed.
Goddamn that entire arc was such a stupid way to take Reed's character. Because of one reason - he would have just LEFT.
Sue was more often than not the team "big sister" of the UF4 stuff.
>>78406119
seriously go get your autism checked out
>>78405983
>I'm 24.
That's a millennial.
>>78406066
>New Ultimates was perfectly good
It was just a rehash of Ultimates 2 with nothing new in it. Characters were shit, plot was lame. The only interesting thing was Thor having a son that ended up raised by Loki -- I'll admit that was a great addition.
As for Cho's art, it's good, but it's got some of his worse same face ever. It just happened to have four big breasted women for him to draw.
>2nd and 3rd arc are merely good
If you rate the Doomsday Trilogy as great but 2/3 of Galactus as good, your opinions are pretty bad.
>>78402456
Is this Ultimate Reed Richards or Ultimate Hank Pym?
>>78406636
> but it's got some of his worse same face ever
Bull, it's not a millionth as noticeable as Jim Cheung's faces and he has a wider range of expressions than 80% of artist out there.
>>78406636
> If you rate the Doomsday Trilogy as great but 2/3 of Galactus as good, your opinions are pretty bad
1.) Brandon Peterson's art in the last arc of the Galactus trilogy brought the book down for me while Sandoval's was great all the way thru on Doomsday.
2.) And the last 3rd of Galactus just wasn't interesting to me compared to the twist and mystery they were doing all thru out Doomsday.
>>78406772
go read a fucking comic book or just wikipedia it you dirty millenial
>>78406919
>compared to the twist and mystery they were doing all thru out Doomsday.
Except that twist was so freaking bad when you take Ult. Reed's overall character.
He would have just left.
>>78399318
>Ellis
>implying he did anything good for Marvel beside Nextwave
Ultimate Pym was interesting how realistic a superhero with massive depression and anxiety can lash out.
>>78407096
So you haven't read his Ultimate work, then?
>>78406919
I agree Peterson sucks, but McNiven was GOAT on Secret. And yeah, Sandoval rules.
However, the twist was shit because of that nonsensical red herring by blowing up Reed's house. It makes no sense if you that scene again knowing what the outcome is.
>>78407299
Ultimate Pym was pretty much a middle finger to anyone who cared about the 616 Pym.
>>78407677
McNiven was supposed to be the artist on all the series.
>>78406772
RR. Try Ultimate Comics: The Ultimates, from Hickman. It's worth it.
>>78407813
Yeah, it's a shame he's so slow. Hairsine was fucking great on Nightmare though (and on Ultimate Six).
>>78407096
His Thunderbolts with Deodato was fantastic!
>>78407096
>Not reading Ellisbolts
Yeah, your opinion has no value.
Ultimate Galactus trilogy was very good. Ultimates 1 and 2 were also a lot of fun to read. I liked Ultimate Power too, fuck the haters.
>>78406943
>>78408019
Too retarded to get the joke
>>78405983
>blob eating wasp isn't bad writing.
Ok now you're just trolling
I plan to continue my storytimes of Ultimate and Hickman. Work is really busy this time of year.
>>78400085
>t-shirt
>buttoned shirt
>hoodie
>blazer jacket thing
Is he cold or is that fashionable in new york?
>>78411470
Both
>ctrl+f "hawk-owl"
>no results
I really like ultimate spider woman.
>>78407702
It's a Pym from an Alternate Universe, how is he a middle finger to mainstream Pym? Ultimate Cap is a massive jingoistic dickwad, Ultimate Wasp is an Asian mutant, Ultimate Hulk is a sex-driven cannibal, Ultimate Black Widow was a traitor. None of these members of the Ultimates impacted 616 Avengers counterparts.
>>78412792
>Ultimate Cap is a massive jingoistic dickwad
>"I didn't read shit"
ftfy
>>78412813
It's been over 8 years since I read The Ultimates, but Ultimate Cap is far more dickish than 616 Cap.
This moment here >>78407813 is something 616 Cap would never dare say about the French.
>>78412935
That was a singular moment.
He's very much the opposite of a dickward in 1 and 2
>>78412935
>This moment here is something 616 Cap would never dare say about the French.
That's the most typical and least informed criticism of Ultimate Cap. It's one moment in the heat of battle, and he even says that to Fury in the next issue. It's a literal "I've never read this shit" complaint.
>>78412935
>choosing this letter to prove your point
>not choosing him kicking Bruce's face in
You didn't read shit baka desu senpai
>>78413628
>not choosing him kicking Bruce's face in
>kicking a mass murdering maniac in the face
I see nothing wrong there
>>78413741
2edgy4me
>>78412792
>Ultimate Cap is a massive jingoistic dickwad
If that was true then he would not have strongly praised and respected Russian soldiers in WW2 like he states that he does in Ultimate Nightmare.
>>78413988
If you seriously think someone who intentionally set off a set of events that lead to their alternate personality killing 800 people should not be kicked in the face then you can kiss my ass.
>>78414069
Hitting someone who is not already down, but surrendered is an egotistical jackass move of a coward. If you aren't man enough to accept that your opponent is already beaten then you are an asshole.
>>78407702
why? because he is an interesting character with flaws in a popular book.
Yeah, Pym fans must hate that. Nothing worse that your character being well done.
>>78414102
So if I murder 800 people and then get called in by the military to attack you, you should stop fighting me once I say "never mind, I give up!"?
>>78414102
> If you aren't man enough to accept that your opponent is already BEATEN
That has nothing to do with anything, killing EIGHT HUNDRED PEOPLE DESERVES MOTHER FUCKING PUNISHMENT!
>>78400334
Hickman's run on the Ultimates was fucking outstanding also.
I actually really liked the Apocalypse run in Ult. X-Men too. Ult. Cable was a nice twist.
>>78414143
>>78414361
Which he was going to get through the death penalty. He had given up, Ultimate Cap is a dick. That's why we love him.
>>78404791
Ultimates 3 was really bad.
Ultimatum was just kinda bad because of some inconsistency and killing for no reason other than (I think) they wouldn't have known how to use the characters.
>>78398683
>Ultimate Spidey
>Good
My sides.Seriously though, Peter and Miles needed their own series. I'd like to see both of them work together.
And before you fucking sperg out /co/, I'd want a very good writer to handle the task.
>>78414678
And all Cap did was kick him in the face.
Fair's fair.
what issues of USM were christmas?
will storytime
>>78416475
There weren't any Christmas issues. Not even sure it ever snowed.
Ultimates 3 was set around Christmas, though.
>>78414781
>Spider Boy
>Miles is black
Didn't even try to hide it with that one.
>>78405046
I've seen weirder things yelled during sex.
>>78398683
nah
>>78398831
This art is so shitty, it'd be good if it wasn't Greg Land tier art.
>>78419262
>Based Yu
>Land-tier
Son, you need your eyes checked.
>>78419299
That seventh panel looks like Land's moaning-girl-in-porn-for-every-cover head.
>>78398683
Millars Ultimates 1 and 2
Ultimate Dazzler
Ultimate Thor
Ultimate Cap
when Ultimate Hank Pym sprayed Ultimate Wasp with bug spray and had her raped by ants and then when Ultimate Cap found out he jumped out of a helicopter and beat up Ultimate Hank Pym
Ultimate Xmen was alright until zombie guy took over
When Ultimate Reed Richards got tricked by zombie Reed Richards to go into Zombieverse where the meet Magneto
>>78419345
Except she's actually supposed to be cumming. Do you not get that?
Ultimate Wolferine vs Hulk was pretty cool
Also that time Ultimate Wolferine and Ultimate white Spider Man switched bodies
>>78398683
It was pretty good up to Ultimatum/Requiem(so about 2009). UFF even led to Marvel Zombies, one of my favorite comics.
>>78406943
>>78408019
He said that because the picture was tiny, like it was a picture for ants. Who is a man made of ants?
>>78414102
Banner had just transformed himself into his super-powered, cannibalistic, rapist self simply because he was feeling pissy and depressed, and proceeded to murder 800 people and cause millions/billions in damage. He deserved a lot more than a kick in the face. I think Cap's reaction was very human. He's not some moral demigod like 616 Steve.
