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So is it shit?
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>>78360044
Its not bad in a storytime of pain way, its just really really unremarkable and uninspired.
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>>78360044
actually I've been enjoying it
Not really the best Clark Kent story ever but there is a decent amount of character depth and it is an interesting take on Clark's life before Superman
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I liked the first issue, it was well-told and a cute story. Haven't read the second yet.
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It's alright
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>>78360044
>max landis

Yes without a doubt.
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>>78360143
Judging sonething based on writter instead of content is very tumblr.
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>>78360143
>lets judge something without reading it
Granted I will give you the fact that Max Landis is an insufferable twat at times, but he has written a few good things if you like his style of writing
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>>78360044
Bad, but not worth getting angry over.

It's so mediocre it's barely worthy of notice
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The first issue was really good, but the second one was pretty "this is what would happen if he was REAL" and not nearly as fun. Clark can fuck up with his powers, sure, but I'm not interested in reading about him permanently maiming a guy because of that fuck up.
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>>78360238
That's the good part of one-offs though.
If it's just retreat of familiar comfy ground, why bother?

It should be different and it's ok for it to be uncomfortable.

Landis hasn't Landised it up yet
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>>78360238
I don't know I can live with that consequence of a fuck up. I am willing to suspend my disbelief to a point that Clark may have done something overly traumatic before realizing that a certain level of control is required
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Comfiest comic ever.
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>>78360264
To me it's not a matter of should/shouldn't in the artistic sense. It's me personally reading something and just not liking the idea at all. I'll probably read the next issue anyway, but it's the kind of thing that may prevent me from buying the trade.

>>78360267
I don't find it unimaginable really. I just didn't like it.
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>>78360352
>I don't find it unimaginable really. I just didn't like it.
That's fair, I can understand that bothering you. I have liked it enough that I am planning to get the trade so far, just keeping my finger crossed that it doesn't go full on Landis edge
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>>78360196
Are you saying we shouldn't judge something based on the writer? Looks at anything written by Liefeld or Lobdell or Daniel or Finch.
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>>78360892
Not that anon, but I will say you can be weary of something based on the writer and their previous work, but how can you properly rate something or even know if you like it without reading it.

I mean granted I know that I don't usually like Finch, Lobdell or Liefield either, but I can at least say I gave a few of their comics a chance before making that opinion
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I found the first issue great. I found the second issue pretty good. I'm not really into past stuff, but these are the best things he's ever put out. So who knows, he's probably grown and evolved a bit as a writer. Looking forward to the others and I'm hoping for a consistent quality.
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>>78360892
Liefeld gave us both Deadpool (questionably good) and John Prophet (completely based).
I'm not saying HIS Deadpool or HIS Prophet are the ones we love, but we wouldn't have the versions of them we love without him.
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It's alright, especially if you didn't mind Man of Murder. First issue is a good, comfy story and second was a little edgier but I didn't mind. I'm buying them as they come out because it's the only currently-running Superman story that I like.
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>>78360044

Issue 1 was fun, great art and overall good writing.
Issue 2 tip-toed a little close to Landis' Edge territory but I'm willing to accept what Clark does.
Issue 3's when he gets mistaken for Bruce Wayne on a yacht full of hotties. It should be fun.
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>>78360892
Scott Lobdell has written a lot of good comics. Just because certain books more recently have been misfires does not make everything he writes automatically shit
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>>78360044
Much better than I expected it to be. It's in the same vain of what MoS was intended to be except not a complete mess. It has heart and consequence, with characters that behave naturally without betraying any of the most sacred of cows, in a world that feels real and comic booky at the same time. I'm not a fan of MoS, and I can't tell you how much I can't stand Landis, but I'm enjoying American Alien a lot more than I was expecting to, which was not at all.
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It's pretty good so far, but I maintain that Landis shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the main comics. Let him write Earth One.
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>>78360044
It's what Man Of Steel desperately wanted to be.
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>>78360086
>>78360090
It doesn't suck completely.
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>>78361499
like what?
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>>78364165
X-Men.
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>>78363312
So its an after the fact rewrite of the movie using criticism to write itself?
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>>78360238
>Clark can fuck up with his powers, sure, but I'm not interested in reading about him permanently maiming a guy because of that fuck up.

This is what keeping me from reading the book which I will eventually but that tidbit keeps me from giving it any money.
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>>78361422
>Issue 3's when he gets mistaken for Bruce Wayne on a yacht full of hotties. It should be fun.
Only two issues in and Batman's already going to be fucking in it.

>If American Alien does well Max will make Superman: Agent of Batman

Sometimes I wonder if it'd be all that bad if the Earth was blown up by the constant close calls with meteors.
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>>78363312
I really don't understand what all these comparisons for American Alien with Man of Steel are about when it has nothing to do with it. I guess even the slightest hint of "edge" around Superman will drive autists into a foaming rant about Man of Steel. For some reason the movie even came up in the IGN review.
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>>78364471
Man of Steel was so bad, anything slightly good is a huge win.
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>>78364471
>reading IGN
Anon...
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I liked it.
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>>78364433
Apparently, that's issue 4, with Ollie, Bruce and Lex.
#3 has civvies Cheetah, Ollie and Slade.
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I've only read the first issue so far, but I liked it. The art was a bit wonky at times I guess, but it didn't really detract from the overall product.

I gotta give a big fuck you to whoever put this scary motherfucker in the comic.
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>>78364471
Attempted modern reinterpretation of the origin that sacrifices the more anachronistic tropes of it, and replaces them with modernisms that don't jeopardize the character as much refine him to be more aptly suited for the world we live in.
That is not to say anything about the quality of either as much as attempting to describe what they have in common that justifies their comparisons.
With regard to their quality however, American Alien is already superior as it is demonstrating Clark learning to control his abilities and remain level headed and not to let himself lose his cool before leaving Smallville. The Kents of American Alien are also a fantastic combo of folks who would love Clark enough to help him see the best in the world, while also being disciplinary enough to be able to instruct him knowing when to use his powers, and when not to, as well as helping him learn how to control them.
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>>78361179
ok but that doesnt mean you want to read a comic by liefeld does it
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>>78364913
That rescue by Pa though, anon.
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>>78365085
There might be arguments for this page being cheesy and heavy handed, but i loved it.
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>>78360044
I'm so glad Max Landis is fixing Superman by undoing his old gay faggot moralfag version of him and making him gritty, realistic, and edgy.
I always thought there wasn't enough gore and violence in Superman comics.
Max Landis is the Citizen Kane of comic writers and better than havkfrauds like Mark Waid, Red Lettet Media, and Kurt Busiek.
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>>78366178
Context.
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>>78360044
First issue was great second was okay
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it
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work?
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>>78364204
X-men by Lobdell sold. I would question the quality. Especially when all the X-books were written by freakin committee.
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>>78364324
Good. Landis needs to stop being a superfaggot
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>>78360044
Great art, shit writing.
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>>78366517
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Ah, a "I HATE LANDIS SO MUCH!!" autist has finally shown up.
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>>78366517
damn
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>>78366560
fuck....you
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>>78366560
>autist autist autist autist autist autist autist autist

The fuck is wrong with you people that you keep using a word you don't know the meaning of
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>>78366578
"I HATE HIM SO MUCH... I'M GOING TO STORYTIME HIM!"

Faggot.
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>Nobody likes you
>Everyone left you
>They're all out without you
>Having fun
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>>78366636
>Faggot
>Autist
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>>78366717
Thanks Cap!
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>>78366178
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>>78366289
Ow the edge!
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>>78367476
So bold! So real!
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>>78367512
>>78367497
>>78367489
>>78367476
>CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
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>>78367468
>young man in a police line up
>le edgy donte xD
The kid on the right got into a fight defending himself and even ended up crying
The other is donte.

Your not funny or original
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>>78367555
*you're
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>>78367388
>>78367501
>>78367539
Would any of you be willing to express what you don't like about it without meme responses?
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>le edgy maymay the thread
You're all faggots
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>>78367572
I haven't read it yet, I just love stirring the pot, you people make it so easy. The only Landis thing i've enjoyed so far was his Shocker fanfiction, and I've read his superman issue before. There's always some buzz around him so I've added his name to my list of read someday writers, but I don't have much time to read anything nowadays.
>>78367612
Hide thread, move on
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>>78363312
Max Landis made up a sequel for MoS 2, it starts at 1:40 if you don't want to watch the chit chat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygWvAqvTrVI
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Do you think Landis' recent comments regarding Star Wars, Episode 7, the character of Rey, and the notion that she is a Mary Sue will have any effect on the publication status of American Alien?
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>>78367674
No
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>>78367612
It's the evil SJWs who want to ruin society by making women and blacks the leads in media. We need to support Max Landis and his edgy to fight against evil SJWs like Mark Waid
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>>78367674
no, he's too much of a faggot for them to do anything
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>>78367572
Superman is suppose to be Fun, not edgy. His name is SUPERman, not GRITTYman.
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>>78367674
Not in the slightest.
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>>78367572
Some people think anything other than an issue full of warm apple pies, helping seniors cross the street and saving kittens from trees is too edgy for a Superman comic and is subsequently raping the character.
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>>78367674
DC is too desperate for sells that they don't care.
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>>78367572
It's unoriginal and just dull. We've seen this """"realistic""" and gritty Superman before. I don't want to see Superman melt people's arms and fighting the guys from the Hills have Eyes. I want a Superman who inspires people and is actually a joy to read. I'm fired of the "edgy" Superman that's become so popular since injustice.

I mean shit. When did this start? Was it because Superman Returns failed?
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>>78367714
christ why can't people ever separate this shit? who cares what writers say, you should only care about the fiction they write. i'm a chess fag, i fucking love bobby fischer-and bobby fischer was a fucking lunatic racist, but that has nothing to do with fucking chess. for fucks sake, just look at the work and leave personal lives out of it. it's like even the fags that like American Alien don't want to say they liked it because they dislike max landis, which is the stupidest shit ever
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>>78367767
>Superman needs to stop being such a pussy boyscout faggot and needs lots of guns, pouches, and a Santa beard
>how will anyone ever take my men in tights seriously if it isn't needlessly edgy and gritty
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>>78368047
I bet you also like Mein Kampf and Ender's Game
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>>78368116
i do like ender's game, yeah. so what?
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>>78368047
You can't subliminally insert your personal politics into chess, m8.

Unless you're like "WHY DO I GOTTA BE THE NIGGER PIECES" nobody will know what kind of retard you really are.
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>>78367656
>superman gives up and becomes Lex's bitch
yeah, no thank you. i already read TDKSA and it was shit. at least it wasn't as bad as his other pitch where supes edgyly stabs zod and taunts him. so there's that.
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>>78367714
People are SOOO fucking upset that Rey is a Mary Sue. Lexi Alexander straight-up blocked Landis without even having a discussion.

The butthurt runs deep.
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>>78367920
Main universe Superman comics aren't anything like what you're saying. Also Adventures of Superman and Smallville Season 11 weren't either.

Basically you should stop reading shit and pretending like it's a trend.
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>>78367714
wow, i never knew waid was such a sexist. why do girls have to look up to a female character? is he also saying boys can't look up to a female character?
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Im not gonna support the son of an unconvicted murderer
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>>78368163
it's fiction, so even if a writer is subliminally inserting his politics into it, all that happens is you get a hopefully interesting perspective on a different point of view. you can then choose to dismiss it or even accept it because i like to believe most people aren't as dumb as they seem to be and can have their own opinions. a racist writer can write a better piece of racist fiction than a saint writer while describing a utopia.
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>>78363312
So, Superman: Birthright?
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>>78368493
Yes, but good.
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>>78368248
Yeah, look how much fun DC has made Superman in the main comics....
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>>78368493
>>78363312
I thought it wanted to be Superman Earth One considering how much Goyer took from it.
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>>78368551
there's literally nothing wrong with Superman fighting a shadow monster to protect people
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>>78368551
Two can play this game you retarded, you forgot the page that happens after that he says that everyone that stood up to help him fight the shadow monster was superman
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>>78368551
The funny thing is depowered Superman was pretty fun and hopeful. He was living and enjoying life like a regular guy and the fact that people were sticking up for him when assholes inevitably tried to get a piece because of how much he'd helped people was pretty inspiring. But you're just some faggot that doesn't actually read shit and links out-of-context panels for a cheap rise.
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>>78368635
oh joy, I always though Superman needed more blood and that he should be more like Wolverine (while looking like a CoD Dudebro).
Maybe next they can make Squirrel Girl look like a stripper and add a rape scene in he comic to make it more Mature....
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>>78368768
>the page that happens after that he says that everyone that stood up to help him fight the shadow monster was superman

that was some good feels
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>>78368776
>calling people you don't like Faggots
Don't you have a KKK meeting to get to?
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>>78368802
You're either completely ignorant or just trying too hard. Eh, I'm going to go with both.
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>>78368802
>this is what DC haters actually believe
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>>78368831
HAHAHA Got a problem, faggot?
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So much fun
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>>78368831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGyKBFCd_u4

words evolve faggot
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>>78368830
Holy shit anon, sorry i am asking too much, but do you have any wallpaper versions ?
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>>78368867
Shouldn't you be in a GamerGate thread?
>>78368887
>citing South Park
A--A-Are you twelve years old, anon? You shouldn't be posting in this website, kid.
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>>78368909
The only other version I have is this one that's just pencils Kuder tweeted out. Seems too small for wallpaper though.
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>>78367674
I wish, but no. You see, anon, DC comics are the opposite of Marvel. They really really REALLY hate minorities and females. They are basically the FoxNews of the comic industry. So Max Landis is more than likely to be promoted and offered fifty books because he hates women so much. Heck this is the same company that hired Scott Lobdell to write Starfire and let Cameron Stewart have Batgirl beat up a Transexual. There's even reports of the Superman editor sexually assaulting Wonder Woman workers.
So don't worry, anon. Max Landis is in the best place possible.
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>>78368997
option a)

you are genuinely so retarded that you don't understand the difference between homophobia and telling someone off because they're acting like an asshole. in which case this is also your first time here since faggot is a word that has pretty much replaced "asshole" on this board

b) you're a troll who's frankly shitting up this thread so please stop.
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>>78364433
Fucking hell, ONE stupid freaking interaction with the character he's been crossing over with since the 50s and you can't stop fucking sulking and whining, goddamn.
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>>78369261
So if South Park made an episode that Nigger now meant Gummy Worms would you believe them hmmm???
South Park is not the king of the world.
The word " fag" is still used and associated with homosexuality. Just because a family guy-wannabe says otherwise doesn't change that. Also, it's past your bedtime, kid
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>>78364433
Don't worry, Max hates Batman more than Geoff Johns does. He'll have Superman strawman him like the joker then melt his arms off.
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>>78369411
i've never seen anyone be so butthurt and insecure over taking it up the ass. please understand no one here gives two shits about which hole you cum in. go jerk off to Dick Grayson's ass and let the normal people have a superman thread
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>>78369411
>SJWs so asshurt over Landis' Mary Sue comments about Star Wars they'll shitpost his comic on 4ch.
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>>78369434
anyone that doesn't write batman as the batgod hates him, sure
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>>78361179

Well, with Liefeld, the strategy is to ignore everything he is actually involved in and jump in when a better writer takes his character and runs with it.
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>>78369494
>implying Dickfriends don't like Superman

don't be a cunt, anon
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>>78369494
>>78369603
Nice retort, /pol/
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>>78369793
Yeah, you are a new type of retard
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>>78369847
>using retard a an insult
Shouldn't you be busy playing call of duty and yelling at your mom to make you more pizza rolls?
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>>78369411
Part of the episode included how over the course of the history of the word, its meaning has changed multiple times before being used as slang for homosexuals that they find offensive. The word "nigger" has no history of its meaning having changed. Apples are not oranges, anon. "Faggot" has meant multiple things over time. All it would take is a conscientious effort on a societal level to take back the word by giving it a new meaning, and not being offended by acknowledging that it no longer means what it did when it was used to insult minorities by biggots.
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>>78360238
"permanently maiming a guy"

f'me tha' was a stunning scene 'cause it hinted at Supes'/Clark's real superpower his conscience

until tha' scene I'd always tended t'think Kid Kent only ever've 'ad two options become super good or super bad bu' I now realise 'e could also've become amoral or something along the neurotic spectrum
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>>78368869
>mfw Norman Osborn raped Gwen near me
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>>78370334
The scene was needlessly gory and edgy. Adding Gore as Violence to Superman won't make him cool. No one watched the Avengers and thinks "Gee wiz! I love that part where Captain America cut a bank robber's arms off! Look at all the blood! So epic!" They like the movie because the characters are fun. They need to make Superman less gory, less violent, less gritty, and focus on making him more funny and lovable.
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>>78370496
You Know that his was what Action comics was all about right ? from 41 forward its him trying his best to no feel anger because it would feed wrath
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>>78370347
And now JMS works for DC making Superman edgy along with Max Landis. Meanwhile Marvel has Ryan North and Bendis.
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>>78370301
well to be fair nigger hasn't ALWAYS meant "friend", it used to be a racial slur
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>>78370557
One is writing an horrible fucking Comic and the other got past his prime have a time now, you also knows that JMS got off DC have a time now right ? he only did Earth 1
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>>78370557
edgy superman storeis can be great actually, JMS already did one with supreme power and waid did one with irredeemable. they just don't work when superman is in them
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>>78370557
>And now JMS works for DC

He hasn't done work for them for years, dude.
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>>78370602
He worked on Before Watchmen and Superman Earth One and is now working on Flash Earth One
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>>78369357
Wouldn't even be that bad if Batman wasn't fucking shoehorned in every fucking thing DC had in years because God forbid something stands on its own merits and not by batfag money.
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>>78367920
But anons, he isn't Superman here yet. Unlike people who try to use the same defense for MoS, he is still an adolescent, hasn't left Smallville, and isn't wearing his costume yet. The events of the second issue weren't malicious. They weren't edgy. If anything Clark knew there were people who had murdered others who presented a risk, and as he grows to do, he sought them out to bring them to justice. If he made any mistake, it was having the hubris to think he could handle it on his own, and din't need to ask for help, or even tell the Sheriff who might have had a better idea of how to manage the situation. At no point did he do anything to intentionally hurt the criminals. If anything the situation got out of his control, which led to his losing his cool and control of his abilities. It's tragic that this person lost his arms, but this was not Frank Castle shooting them off because he thought they deserved it. Clark even expressed remorse as soon as he saw what he had done, and tried pleading that he'd let them go. As soon as he realized he'd made a mistake, he did the responsible thing and stopped. True edge lords would have just gotten off on it and done more of it.
We can't let ourselves to believe that a being with abilities that make him a force or nature like Superman was born with control of his abilities. Most emerged, and weren't in control at first, and that allows for the potential for people to get hurt. While I don't like seeing Superman hurt people, this was a growing pain, and a teaching moment, and Landis wrote Clark learning a lesson here, and vowing to be better and a step closer to the Superman we know in the future. I'm not a fan of MoS or Landis, but if I need to see Superman hurting people to learn a lesson, I'd rather it be teen Clark wounding a trio of murderers, over adult Clark in the suit being written into the taking of a life being the only solution to his first trial as "Superman."
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>>78370747
well someone has to pay for all the shit, would you rather them be a paramilitary goverment team like the movie avengers? they have a fucking base in orbit or on the moon or wherever the fuck, you think clark paid for that with his reporter money?
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>>78360044

Landis hates on Death of Superman and MOS. Makes a comic edgier and shittier than both.

>Why do people take this guy seriously? Chronicle is okay but christ, is it just his last name at this point?
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>>78370878
But it isn't.
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>>78370896

JUST

>mediocre
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>>78370794
>I-I-I-I-It's okay if Supes is edgy because it's his first day! That makes it less edgy!
That doesn't change anything, anon. I don't want to see Clark or Superman edgly mutilate people like he's Leatherface. It's still edgy even if it's his first day.
And its not a accident because Max and Snyder are the hacks who put him in that situation and made him do it. They are the equivalent to DMs who purposly try and make Paladins fall because they're dicks. A good Superman writer doesn't turn Superman into some edgelord that tears limbs off because they think it's cool. That's not what Superman is about.
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/co/ really needs to stop the superman worship. even fucking jesus had moments of doubt and dark times for fucks sake. it's okay to show superman flounder sometimes, as long as he picks himself back up at the end
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>>78370994
B-B-But that would mean treating Superman as an actual character instead of some tool to show how good and moral I am!
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>>78370994
The bible also said it was okay to have slaves and treat women like shit. I guess Superman should go back in time and help the confederates and stop the feminist movement! (I bet Max Landis would love to write that comic)
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It's too bad Marvel is full of hacks and thieves who stole Max Landis's idea just to make Superior Foes of Spider-Man (a boring comic that is inferior to the source they stole it from). Max Landis would of gladly written a few comics for Marvel (which would be better than anything Hickman and Spencer would put out)
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>>78371265
landis needs to do himself a favor and delete his social media accounts. really.
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Second issue was a bit too hardcore compared to the tone of the first one, but I'm still interested in it.
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>>78371265
The fuck is The Shocker? Also is this why Boomerang fought Bullseye? As a jab to Landis?
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>>78371590
he's the guy I'll chase TO THE ENDS OF THE EAAAAARRTH!
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>>78371590
The Shocker: Legit is one of the greatest stories ever created, made by Mac Landis (who wrote the modern equivelent to Citizen Kane aka American Ultra)
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>>78371590
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanFic/TheShockerLegit
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I didn't mind teen Clark facing some murderers and maiming them albeit by accident

But why can he bleed and break bones when he couldn't as a kid?
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>>78371265
James Gunn also doesn't want anything to do with him after he chimped out at Morrisoncon when Gunn called Chronicle a superhero movie (a term that Max views as tge equivelent to a black person being called a nigger)
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>>78371705
>it's literally just fanfiction
why would Marvel bother with his fanfiction when they and the rest of the big2 already write their own fanfiction? is max landis autistic?
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>>78372056
he's the type of guy who has no filter. i don't think he's a bad guy, but having no filter+access to twitter is a bad combination. pretty soon he'll piss off everyone on the planet and really end up jobless
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>>78372241
I wish more people would realize that Twitter isn't a private diary and that it's the equivalent to shouting to everyone on the planet with a computer. So many people get so comfortable and addicted to twitter they forget just how big it really is.
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Be careful bros

Max Landis is here.
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>>78371705
I didn't even know that was him. It was decent until halfway through where it got all Marty Sue
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>>78371265
>which would be better than anything Hickman and Spencer would put out
Well, that ain't a high standard...
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>>78364913
I'm proud of the number of folks who replied ayyy LMAO when it was first storytime'd
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>>78369212
>Landis hates women
He does?
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what's with all the shitposting? this isn't normal
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>>78366358
>I would question the quality

Maybe you should read the comics instead of jumping into biased conclusions. Lobdell created Generation-X, lead architect on Age of Apocalypse, wrote a very good Iceman whose character progression was more or less thrown into the garbage bin after he left, etc.
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>>78371265
Spencer stole from Kirkman, not Landis.
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>>78374320
Shocker's not a Mary Sue, anon. It's only women who can be Mary Sues because women being campable and strong is unrealistic and pandering
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>>78376848
Shitposting is common on Landis threads unfortunately.
Always the same junk as well.
The worst part is that there's legitimate criticism in his work they could use to spam with, but they choose bad/strawman examples instead.
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>>78376905
And he was one who had Northstar come out of closet.
But no, he's sexist because of Slutfire.
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so is he trying to do 'supreme power - but it's actually superman this time' or what's the point of this book
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>>78377386
To be "the opposite of All-Star Superman". Aka the opposite of Fun (I.e. Gritty and Edgy)
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>>78377275
>Landis has clearly never seen the RE movies or dozens of other such tripe
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>>78377578
You're saying like that's bad thing.
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>>78377437
Which actually means, Superman as a man, rather than Superman as a god.
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>>78374280
HEEEEY LANDIS
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BTFO
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>>78379780
Because of this?
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>>78374280
Maybe OP is Landis
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>>78370972
>I don't want to see Clark or Superman edgly mutilate people like he's Leatherface.
>Superman into some edgelord that tears limbs off because they think it's cool

Anon, I understand where you are coming from. I don't like seeing Superman do things like this either. The thing for me though is that perhaps it is like seeing how the sausage is made, but with his powers, there is absolutely believable potential for accidents like this to happen.

If society is so deadset on seeing the flaws of its heroes, or seeing that they aren't perfect, and demanding to know the context for why everything is the way it is, and Clark Kent grows up to be the paragon of heroism, and everything good about humanity, the Superman that I think you and I love, and does so on some level because of lessons learned from an incident from his youth when he jumped into the deep end of a situation before he was ready to, lost control of it, and that resulted in sociopaths winding up in the ICU, but still alive? I'll allow it. This was not intentional. This was not malicious. Clark did not stop and make a conscientious decision to shoot the guys arms off, or snap Zods neck. He, a teenager, did what teenagers do, and thought he was ready for more than he was ready for, and lost control of the situation in more ways than one. For me, edge is edge, when it is forced, and while I can understand how you could feel this was forced, that is a very organic scenario. Even Morrison says that writing Superman isn't hard and that all it takes is writing him doing the same things we do, just on a Super level. In my opinion this accident is very much your average teenager fucking up big on a Super level. If people demand to see what prompted Superman's restraint, I'd rather the incident result in injuries to bad guys in the middle of nowhere, than a loss of life of thousands, and the death of a rogue. It may not be what Superman is about, but again: This was not Superman.
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Look, lets forget all the edgy/not edgy talk cause really that comes down to a matter of opinion.


My main problem with Landis is that he is just not a talented writer. Nothing in what he has written is particularly original, creative, or well delivered.

I liked Chronicle and parts of American Alien #1 and #2. But nothing about them was original, he just figured out that western Akira would work for Chronicle, and re-tread moments from Smallville/Waid/Morrison/Byrne for Superman.


I think one of his biggest weaknesses is dialogue and inconsistent dialogue.


He is like an idea guy with bad ideas.
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>>78368233
>Lexi Alexander straight-up blocked Landis
Shit! I might have to start following Landis now, my enemies enemy is my friend...
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