>DKIII #1 beat the likes of Secret Wars, Star Wars, and X-Men while it is the only DC entry in the top 10 comics
>Sandman Overture Deluxe Edition, also the only DC entry in the top 10 GNs and TPs, topped that list
>but Marvel wins again in market shares
>and Image underperforms in collected edition sales
Jesus Christ.
>EXM beats ANAD Avengers
Even if its just by one spot, lol suck it.
>>78097950
There's honestly nothing surprising here.
>Marvel will never stop whoring out events and relaunches
They even inflated all the #1 prices and nobody batted an eye, how transparently must they rape retailer wallets before enough is enough?
>>78098072
There's nothing surprising at all, the numbers are going to be as sad as they are every month
I am surprised nobody's shouted about how DC is dying yet though!
>>78098054
Star Wars and X-Books are dominating the top spots.
How are the Star War books. I have checked them out because I keep thinking it's gonna be crap but I am interested.
>>78098219
Purists hate them, casuals like them.
You surely didn't miss OMG, THEY'RE GIVING SABERS TO EVERYONE NOW threads?
>>78098219
Most are servicable. Nothing spectacular, but if you're in the mood for some Star Wars, they'll deliver.
The Darth Vader ongoing is pretty great though, and the one I'd recommend checking out. Also liked the Lando mini.
>Uncanny #600 top ten
Eat dick and choke on it Bendis haters. Bendis won once again. Only thing left to see is how bad he massacred Abnett in the Guardians wars.
>>78097950
>Marvel has nine out of ten books in the top 10
How the fuck do they do it?
I just hope Herc does well enough to not get cancelled.
>>78098323
New #1s. It'll be interesting to see what happens when those stop. They still have Star Wars but outside of that I wonder.
>>78098323
>only 9 out of 10
Sounds like Marvel is slipping. In October they had all 10 of the top 10, and 18 of the top 20 (DC took the #11 and #20 spots).
>>78098346
That and Vision.
Why do I have a feeling they'll be Marvel's lowest selling books?
>>78098323
By making better comics.
>>78097950
>no inhumans in top 10
Hmmn i wonder what that means
>>78098367
>Why do I have a feeling they'll be Marvel's lowest selling books?
Because Marvel fans have horrible taste?
>>78098418
*because comic fans in general have horrible taste
Fixed.
>>78098323
Starwars.
>>78098352
Relaunch at 12.
>>78098323
Notice that they are all a #1, Star Wars, or part of an event.
>>78098367
Because we can't have nice things.
>>78098323
They control very popular franchises. Everyone loves xmen and Star Wars.
>>78098493
Uncanny X-men is #600
>>78098528
Except marvel doesnt love x-men
They love avengers
>>78097950
so that's why they delayed UXM?
>>78098579
Though UXM was delayed because they couldn't make up their mind about what they were going to do with the X-Men post Secret Wars after Remender left.
>>78098560
Well they are getting their own event in 2016. It's hard to hate something that makes them so much money.
>>78098412
They won't be in the top 50 as well
>>78098611
They do hate the fact that X-men make so much money, because they would prefer if other properties made so much money.
That's why you have Kitty in Guardians, Sunspot leading New Avengers, Uncanny Avengers crap, and etc.
![apocalypsewarslogo-162411[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/INweGNp.jpg "apocalypsewarslogo-162411[1].jpg")
>>78098611
>Well they are getting their own event in 2016.
Which is Apocalypse Wars. It's a crossover coming out in March.
First interview: http://comicbook.com/2015/12/11/exclusive-apocalypse-wars-kicks-off-in-extraordinary-x-men-8/
More info to come throughout the day.
>>78098560
This. Nothing says "we hate you" quite like giving them 8 books.
>>78098638
Interesting. It's the first x-related news in a while.
2015 was really underwhelming.
>>78098647
If they loved X-Men, they would give them a panel on comiccon
>>78098219
>X-Books are dominating the top spots.
Are X-fags literally masochists?
Can't they see that Marvel doesn't want them and you kill them all for just the slightest chance that the Inhumans get popular enought for them to cram another Big Budget Hollywood abortion down our throats?
>>78098825
yes. remember the "we sell more books when we piss readers off"
>>78098825
>Are X-fags literally masochists?
Yes. It comes in hand with being characterfag.
>>78098825
It's masochism, mixed with the loyalty and fuck-inhumans attitude. Also, October had literally no ANAD x-books
>>78098638
Odds are this is going to be just as bad as Battle of the Atom. X-Men
>>78098825
Ive been enjoying the xbooks so far. Even THICK laura
>>78098825
If we don't buy multiple copies of every x-book then that means the inhumans have won, and I won't let that happen. Any true x-fan needs to be doing their part and pulling every x-book. Also grabbed a few variant covers to stow away in my collection.
>>78098398
HAHAHA! Best joke I've seen all day so far. Bravo, anon.
>>78098901
I don't know. BOTA had Bendis, Aaron, Wood.
It had no chance of being good.
AW will have Lemire, who doesn't know shit, but at least is inoffensive. Hopeless, who is hopeful, and Bunn-y the happy sociopath
>>78098531
Which in many ways is better as a selling point than a #1.
>>78097950
can someone give the exact number of the DKIII? it should be around 500k right?
>no $2.99 title in the top 10
the industry and its fans deserve to die
>>78098958
We won't know until the full list is released.
>>78098925
But that means you support what marvel is doing to x-men ( another extinction ).
There is no way for x-men to win
>>78098965
No 2.99? Anon, look at the list. There's only 3 3.99s.
>>78098965
And it will. The market crashed in 1996 right?
20 years later, aaaand....
>>78098972
They can't die as long as X-men is outselling the MEMEHUMANS.
>>78098972
There is if X-books rule, and shithumans drool.
The thing is, as long as there ARE x-books is okay.
Look at FF fans. They have 0 books, because no one supported them
>Comichron projects the month's orders of new comics, graphic novels, and magazines amounted to $52 million
>52
>>78097950
>save us Miller
>>78099019
Tbh family, the 50% of the FF are alive
>>78099003
>>78099003
I know they wont die buy they will stay in a perpetual state of persecution and hate
The interview with Lemire is lame, though
>what you think makes Apocalypse such a popular villain that has stood the test of time?
>Lemire: derp generic corporate answer.
>>78099068
>Tbh family, the 50% of the FF are alive
Yeah, but there is no FF book. And that's the point.
Do you remember the time when FF had 2 books at the same time, thanks to Hickman?
And do you remember how they ruined it with giving it to Fraction instead of Gillen, like they should have done?
>>78098352
They'll just relaunch again/
>>78099068
>they will stay in a perpetual state of persecution and hate
That's kinda the point of the X-men.
>>78099076
seriously, wtf
"I think it it a testament to the depth Apocalypse character that three book can tell three Apocalypse stories from three very different points of view."
seriously Lemire, pull that plug out of your ass.
>>78097950
>>but Marvel wins again in market shares
Marvel is all about appealing to the lowest common denominator.
>>78098367
>Why do I have a feeling they'll be Marvel's lowest selling books?
Because those are good books.
>>78098825
Its a matter of principle.
Them outselling Avengers and especially Inhumans just to prove a point.
>>78099107
But not forever. Throw them some bone.
>>78099107
yeah, but there was also slice-of-life kind of thing, space drama, savage land drama, some other stuff.
What Marvel is currently doing is not only cliche, it's done in the most generic and brickwall way possible. No subtlety, no nuance, no nothing.
>>78099118
If they were good, marvel wouldn't give them for free.
>>78099092
Fraction's FF was good though, even if (or mostly because) most of it was ghost written by The Allreds.
Fraction's F4 was hot garbage though.
>>78099110
The fuck is he supposed to say? "An apocalypse movie is coming out so editorial wants me to do an apocalypse event whether I want to or not."
>>78098367
>Why do I have a feeling they'll be Marvel's lowest selling books?
Nah, man. That'll be Black Knight.
>>78098825
>X-Men
>Marvel
What are you talking about? They're not even in the the MCU.
>>78099227
I see your Black Knight and raise you one Red Wolf
>>78099303
Yeah, Red Wolf is DoA. Which is too bad considering it's the only Marvel book written by a far-right conservative.
>>78098958
We'll get that next week
I dunno about 500k, I'm guessing more like 200k
>Marvel jumps 1% in Unit Share
>DC jumps 5% in Dollar Share and 4% in Unit Share
>Image drops 1% in both Dollar and Unit Share
>Big Three
Fuck you, Kirkman.
Interested in the gap between DK3 and the others, but not really a surprise.
Hah ANAD Avengers is the highest selling avengers book. And people thought it would sell badly
>>78097950
>Uncanny X-men 600 is stop 10
I don't know why I'm so mad at a copypasta right now, but I am.
Secretly everyone is a Bendis fan. Sure people here like to feel they have superior taste by calling him shit, hack or whatever they want. They feel better knowing their current indy darling is way better than the top dog at Marvel because it somehow validates the comics they are reading and that's fine.
And yeah the things people complain about Bendis are true as well. He likes to write for trades with slow pacing arcs and his characteristic dialogue. Not to mention putting the stories over any kind of continuity fans want to be acknowledged.
But it's also true that what he does is exactly what Marvel needs. He actually puts some effort in trying to change and advance these characters. You people always criticize his changes because you don't want your characters to advance that fast. Maybe if a change is teased and slowly build then in ten years you will accept it but Bendis doesn't have ten years. He wants to move forward himself not wait until his grandsons do the job for him. You hate him for that but it's what Marvel need. His stories also appeal to the readers. He writes what they want to read. Compare Guardians of the Galaxy against Inhumans. Both had the same number of variants but Bendis still won because he writes the team of Guardians people are interested in reading, accuse him of waifuing or whatever but people accpeted Kitty as Star-Lord because Bendis sold her to them in the first issue. He also put the Avengers on the map and some might say he did it by using gimmicks and events but he was the one who dared to pull these gimmicks and events, and they worked. People liked it. Bendis does know what people want. /co/ of course has other ideas, and most likely those ideas would send Marvel into bankruptcy again.
Bendis works, and /co/ loves him. All the hate messages are just the way they have to show their love.
>>78100520
Not this one, the anti Bendis brigade one. It specifically predicted Uncanny 600 would be top seller.
>people talked shit about based Miller and said no one would go for DKIII
>>78098310
Why do people think that popularity is quality?
>>78100434
That's surprising. With the whole line being named ANAD and these guys having the teasing, plus every member having ongoings, I thought it was obvious that it's the flagship Avengers book. I guess people were hoping it wouldn't sell out of spite or they underestimated Ms. Marvel, Miles Morales and Jane Thor.
>>78100565
Whoever said that is an idiot then, I'm not interested in it but I thought everyone knew DK3 would sell exceptionally well.
>>78100565
I don't care about the story but they way they whored out all the variants it was guaranteed to be a success.
>>78100520
>859 KB PNGSecretly everyone is a Bendis fan.
No. I don't even pirate his books anymore. If I see Bendis' name attached to anything it's an immediate avoid for me.
>>78100565
Why do you listen to /co/? It's filled with idiots. In fact most comic book fans are. These are the same people saying comics are dying despite growth every year since 2012
>>78100434
>And people thought it would sell badly
Who the fuck thought that? They're complete retards if they did. This book had Marvels best marketing push and the PR behind it made it destined to succeed.
>>78100652
Most of /co/ still honestly believes that girls don't buy comics and tumblr pandering hurts sales.
>>78097950
>Batman no longer on the Top 10
Now that's the surprising thing.
Remender writining him when?
>>78101013
The sales probably didn't drop, it's just that other things sold more.
>>78100520
Jesus how many images of Kitty that fat fuck has? Is it Terabytes? Is there exclusive nudes by Pichelli and Schiti?
>>78099581
Nop, Vader down was like 450k (Marvel gave that info), so there is no way DKIII is under that number.
>>78101013
It wasn't in the top 10 last month either.
>>78101063
>Is there exclusive nudes by Pichelli and Schiti?
I would add every Bendis book to my pull list if he would share.
>>78100455
Typical anti-Bendis brigade. You guys are the worst of the worst. Always crying because Marvels best writer is reinvigorating comics with his top selling stories. I bet you guys are the same idiots crying about the X-men too. Well too bad, his X-men run is highly praised everywhere else like reddit, and will go down as one of the best. Issue 600 took old and boring characters and reinvigorated them into a new progressive age. You guys need to catch up instead of staying stuck in the past.
And there is nothing you can do to stop the Bendis train, lol.
>>78097950
>batman
>star wars
>milestone issues
>relaunched titles
>events (regardless of how late they are)
Nothing surprising here. Damn Star Wars has been gold for Marvel. I wonder if they're going to start more titles for it and cancel their cape comics to do so. Or send their better talent to SW and bring in lesser talented writers and artists.
How much did Invincible Iron Man #3 and #4 sell though. I gotta know
#2 was at ~66k
>>78101210
They don't need to put their good talent on SW, it would sell anyway. Maybe making more books for the line would work though.
>>78101239
Well we won't get get accurate sales figures until the December or January numbers come out. You can pretty safely estimate that it'll sell around mid 50k.
>>78101239
Are you so nervous that Bendis might have won again?
>>78101210
>>78101286
They've already got a lot of their top talent over on the Star Wars books though. Rucka, Immonen, Aaron, Chechetto, Gillen, these are some of marvel's biggest names.
>>78101317
It's less about Bendis and more about laughing at Marvel thinking anything can make Iron Man a top seller
>>78101317
No I want to see how low it goes despite Marvel desperately wanting Iron Man to be their new face
>>78101321
>tfw Bendis takes over Vader
>>78101379
They'd never put Bendis on Star Wars. His compulsive need to alter and ignore continuity wouldn't fly on Star Wars. He can get away with it with Marvel because there's no one to tell him no, but Lucasfilms would be on his ass hard the second he starts shoving in his own ships and retconning things that happened in the movies.
>>78100984
>tumblr buys comics meme
kek, your delusional if you think they're not as full of shit as /co/. "Pandering" is just a way for social media to spread the word. Both tumblr and reddit users come to /co/ for the win-o threads and storytimes. They even take images from here to post on their blogs or reddit for upvotes. Gail Simone even got shit on for asking if tumblr actually buys her books, the comment section had shit like "I'm a fan of the character and their art, even though I never read their story!"
The people who are buying comics are the unaware new readers that aren't dedicated to comic forums for info but rather go to stores who see brand new #1s, think it's a good starting point, and just buy everything that follows to complete the collection. When they see numbers like 44 they think they have to go back and read all those issues to understand whats going on, that's why DC is failing, they can't get a handle on the new movie market.
A new relaunch with only 12 issues? That's good enough for casuals, compared to a series that's been going on for over 40 issues. Whichever series has the biggest, artistic poster with as many buzzwords as possible is the series that will sale.
Marvel has a fool proof formula for consistent sales, and it's not even a big secret. If your gonna be mad, be mad at DC for having a shitty marketing department that can't even copy a system that's right in front of their faces.
>>78099212
bingo
I'll bet money that years from now, Lemire will do a perspective interview about his time at marvel and he'll say "god, I hated that"
>>78101434
>the new movie market.
Debatable if it exists. Anecdotal evidence from retails suggests that movies don't really bring in new readers since people forget about them too quickly. It's the tv shows that do it.
http://www.newsarama.com/26070-do-comic-book-tv-shows-sell-comic-books-retailers-weigh-in.html
>>78100649
Different standards for "success."
Is "success" writing a good story? Or writing a story that sells? And does failing at one preclude you from achieving "success" by the other standard?
Also for bait.
>>78101475
To be fair, even Bendis hated his time in the X-Men. That franchise is a leper now because of its fans.
>>78101527
>To be fair, even Bendis hated his time in the X-Men.
Bendis X-men so shit even Bendis himself hated it.
>>78098531
There's been people waiting on that to see the resolution of Bendis' run, to see if everything is explained or wrapped up.
>>78098825
They're launches, though. Comic shops order a lot of #1s.
>>78101571
the fools
>>78099019
>Look at FF fans. They have 0 books, because no one supported them
Bullshit, Inhumans and Silver Surfer had sales as low as FF. They got relaunches.
Stop perpetuating the "Fantastic Four Was Canceled Due to Low Sales" myth.
>>78101379
Just imagine Bendispeaking Yoda.
>>78098858
Not when you're a Halfag.
>>78101751
Thank you based Cereal Lord for a decade of stories. Keep those Kylefags down.
>>78101624
Support is much more than only buying stuff.
X-fags, love them, HATE them, they whined loud enough to make everyone else notice.
This is what FF lacks, because FF fags are content with FF being in limbo.
There is this one FF fag here that is actually very happy about it.
>>78101806
>X-fags, love them, HATE them, they whined loud enough to make everyone else notice.
This is very true. It's the same thing with Cosmicfags. They are Bendis greatest supporter because they can't shut up about him. Hell they made Kitty Pryde a star in a matter of months.
>>78098323
You know how, goy
>>78098323
Star Wars and constant #1s
>>78101899
Anon, in all of my life I would have never fathomed that Kitty would become so popular again, myself.
>b-but Batman isn't that popular anymore
Kek
>>78101967
Whoa re you quoting?
>>78101806
>Support is much more than only buying stuff.
Okay then explain how Silver Surfer got to continue onwards. While the FF got canceled and the Watcher killed off.
>>78101551
Is because x-men have so much history behind it, Bendis cant ignore it if he wants, and that made fans furious.
While GoTG is new for casuals and the people who love it guardians before the movies is a small fraction, Bendis can do whatever he wants with guardians
>>78101993
My spider sense tingles that it has something to do with SS being pet project by Allred, plus Slott is a little like Bendis.
However, SS doesn't have any upcoming movie by Fox, so maybe that's that. Also, I don't think the new volume will last as long as the previous one. But this is assumption of course.
>>78102060
Nah, it's because X-fags are extremely autistic and will throw shit to any writer if his character isn't exactly like they have created him/her in their heads.
Guardians fans are more decent. They just ask for respect for the characters and the genre. But I'm sure they wouldn't have any problem with changing stuff if it benefits the franchise like DnA did.
>>78102110
Then why do they defend and love Spurrier's works and PAD's? They also love X-statix, Morrison / Whedon era. Gillen's. Maybe they havestandards?
>>78101751
He's had his rough patches
>>78102110
>>78098310
Bendis likes Abnett and what does his X-Men being in the top 10 have to do with a
Abnett? Is this trolling?
>>78102173
I can see how some people would feel that, personally I've never read a Hal run I would consider bad (there's a few fill-ins, but those don't really count). Even Venditti's run ranges from average to above average imo, plus we just recently got one of the best Jordan comics of all time.
>>78102143
X-Statix, PAD, and Spurrier only dealt with Z-listers. It's easier to be accepted when your fandom is so small and even then, not everyone loves them. Morrison is special because he truly did an outstanding job with the characters. Only casuals love Whedon.
>>78098323
Shill baby shill.
>>78102266
Anon, surprise us and answer the question yourself.
>>78102272
Then you don't know x-fags. EVERY X-character is someone's favorite. There are on z-listers in their dictionary. And X-Factor was far from Z-listers.
>>78102320
*There are NO z-listers
>>78101990
The average /co/ poster.
>>78102765
The average /co/ poster is a figment of your imagination? Weird.
>>78102835
Nothing is weird on 4chan.
>>78102271
That's fair, he's never really had an extended god awful run, just some less than stellar stuff
I do enjoy being a Halfag
>>78101649
That is a terrible image, and you deserve a time-out mister.
>>78098074
And you will never stop hating, because you fail to see things as they really are
