Looks like we got nothing to worry about.
James Roach and Ryan North comment too, before I forget to post it
>>78081963
> If you keep being mean to me I promise to tell you NOTHING about what we're doing with your money!
>>78082494
Yeah, fuck that.
>>78081313
is this the depressed suicidal person that ranted about capitalism and didn't sell the books that thheyowed?
>>78082544
There's a lot of people like that, anon, you're going to have to be more specific
>>78082544
No.
>>78082544
Nope. The webcomic scene is full of attention whores so I'm not surprised you're confused.
I wonder if these guys are on suicide watch after Toby finished his game with rave reviews with a fraction of their budget.
>>78082544
>>78082568
no thats the pictures for sad children guy i think his name is jc green
>>78082544
Apparently this is one of the guy's most famous tweets
does it look familiar
So I saw the post the guy made telling everyone how hiveswap is super fucked using publicly available info and he never said the new head writer was an alcoholic. Did he make a second post or is this just another case of people being fucking stupid and jumping on a hate bandwagon for this guy?
>>78082666
Naw man, KC Green was the guy that sent a DMCA takedown notice to get rid of the rape robot edit picture. Different drama queens.
>>78082806
To be honest, the guy has acknowledged he drinks a lot, so it's more of a joke than a hate bandwagon
>>78083014
For the hate bandwagon, he posted it on plebbit (I don't remember if it's word filtered or not and I'm on my phone so I'll just borrow a shitty /v/ term) and everyone agreed. Then suddenly after the chick who drew porn of the beehive troll got angry someone linked her publicly posted deviantart where she talked about hiveswap laying people off, he started being treated ass ass stalker creep. I mean maybe I'm wrong and he was making a bunch of comments like this but from what I saw he was totally fine since the hiveswap crew was dumb enough to not cover their tracks and not talk about the game for so long
>hiveswap is still being made
Well that's a shame
How long until update
>>78082634
>rave reviews
You mean bribed reviews by the cabal?
>>78081313
who?
Is this a homestuck thread
can i post homestuck here
>>78085578
Only if you find the missing arts from the calendar
>>78085028
>SJWs co-opting a good game to push their agenda is bribery.
>>78082634
Wait is this the guy who suppose to make Hamsteak game?
He getting payed on patreon?
why?
>they must be on suicide watch because of Undertale!
Hardly, because unlike Toby they are not living with their parents.
You deserve it, /co/
Still have not seen any proof that What Pumpkin had to lay off people.
>>78083169
Still creepy.
>>78088254
Wyatt A Mann is god's gift to mankind.
>>78088224
just as equally sad they cant finish it, After how many years?
>We're working on it
Is this really good enough for anyone?
>>78088373
Just one; the original group made an unplayable single-room demo and spent the money on King's Quest and then some second game after Hussie cancelled the contract. They had to start from scratch a little over a year ago, not that there was much done in the first place. At least it's in-house now.
>>78088422
Better than the awkward silence there has been.
>>78088373
Toby wasn't fucked over by another company or had any other big project he had to focus on, or a big death in the family.
So yeah, I don't think they are sad about another guy being lucky and ripping shit off from other places.
>>78081313
>>78081963
Why is there an NDA like this in the first place? There are plenty of games that are way more open about their development process than this train wreck.
Regular updates about its process isn't unreasonable considering it's funded from fans.
>>78088424
They used $300k of the 2.6m. Where did this they stole everything excuse come from?
>>78088465
>boo hoo indie scene drama XD
>boo hoo family ded,
yeah nah.
>>78088550
I may be pulling this number out of my ass but I think they took almost 915K out of the total of 1.7mil (after taxes, fees, and physical rewards)
so they've only had whatevers left. which they pissed away ON A WALL STREET OFFICE
Fresh news post.
>>78089345
>stuffs happening guys trust me! I'll show you later
>buy my garbage
>>78088550
It was a lot more than $300k. How is "the developers we hired stole a few hundred grand" an "excuse?" In which universe is that just an excuse? I think it's a pretty fucking good reason.
Shhh! Don't tell anyone I'm here. I wrote this, but I don't have anywhere else to post it. I'm just gonna leave it here, and walk away.
archiveofourown.org/works/5385566
>>78089345
It's funny how this is clearly in response to all the recent outcry. But it's good to see at least he's paying attenion
>>78089345
>I'll probably be in a better position to say when Homestuck will update by the end of the year.
What do you think it's gonna be?
>>78090090
You'd think Hussie would have gotten more actual fucking legal protection though. Dumb nerds don't know the first thing about business.
>>78091300
Did hussies teachers really think he was retarded when he was 12?
His words not mine.
>>78091439
Hussie might have high functioning autism
Or at least is socially awkward, he's a programmer after all
>Hiveswap not cancelled
Does... anyone really care?
>>78092238
Enough people got worked up over it enough to speculate that it got cancelled and shit.
>>78088254
More like
>HE TRUSTED HUSSIE
>>78092238
Hiveswap is basically going to be Undertale 2. It'll be the best game of 2016, easily.
>>78092321
I don't know, Undertale is a hard act to follow
>>78091240
It's going to beLIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES
>>78091240
he will say he will have the end on 4/13. of 2017
>every bloodswap fic ever
>Vriska is a crybaby / Karkat 2.0
>Tavros is a bully
>Eridan is a heroic good person
>every teal!blood is blind
>every rust!blood is dead and a ghost
>every violet!blood is a hipster
>every yellow!blood has Sollux's duality fetish
>every indigo!blood is Equius
the memes need to stop.
>>78093156
>Reading bloodswap fics
You knew what you were getting yourself into. You only have yourself to blame for this.
>>78093211
b-b-butI fell in love with indigo!Kanaya
>>78092238
Everybody was shitting their pants over it on Wednesday, so apparently there's a lot of people who care.
>>78093280
That's dumb. You're dumb. Stop being dumb.
>>78093156
>Tavros is a bully
Where?
>every indigo!blood is Equius
To be fair, Equius is supposedly a typical blueblood
>>78093381
>implying every indigo blood has equius' freakish strength
>>78093407
Yeah, that's definitely an Equius thing, not a blueblood thing. They'd never be able to make all the art/smut they enjoy or just generally enjoy a refined life with that kind of strength
>>78089345
i bet he's just rushing to put together something to show off so it looks like things are going well
What is Meenah's favorite color?
Hard mode: no fuchsia or gold
>>78093771
candy red
or
cerulean
Are (Vriska) and (Terezi) double double bo bouble dead or what? The end of the flash was a little ambiguous.
>>78088311
People have the right to know what's happening with their money.
It's quite frankly awful that there's so little communication happening between the people who gave money and the company that's spending it. After pretty flagrant mismanagement as well. I have no real sympathy for the devs anymore, they do not have the right to be as shady as they are being with other people's money.
>>78094409
We don't know.
Maybe Hussie wants the GO!characters relevant or this was the final goodbye flash for them.
>>78093813
She needs to decide for one color.
What a thirsty fish.
>>78093771
salmon
get it? it's a color and a fish
>>78092432
>Davesprite prettying Jade up thanks to bird instincts
Cute, if kinda weird
>>78094755
Would you rather it involve egg-laying
it's a good thing that this game will come out at a time when homestuck is still really relevant and has a large, active fanbase
>>78094457
>other people's money
You gave them your money. It's not your money anymore. It belongs to them now.
The same argument could be made for the development of HL3. You paid them for HL2, HL2:E1 and HL2:E2, and you expected that money to be used for HL2:E3. Now they may or may not be actually working on HL2:E3 or HL3, and they're under no obligation to tell you what they're doing with "your" money.
>>78095226
that analogy is retarded and doesn't work at all
>>78094933
The game has almost nothing to do with the comic though. It doesn't have the same characters or take place at the same time or in the same place, nor does it involve the major driving force(s) of plot in the comic. (unless Skaia somehow shows up without Sburb, or LE shows up for some reason)
>>78095259
He's being sarcastic.
what the hell
Name the most boring character in Homestuck.
Hard mode: No Kanaya, Rose or Calliope.
>>78095577
But Kanaya is the most boring character in Homestuck????
If you're preventing me from answering her, I guess I'll throw down a Jade. She's less shitty than the other Space players but still pretty goddamn shitty.
>>78093813
Fucking lewd.
>>78095577
Karkat for being reduced to an endgame character like Jade.
>>78089345
Looks like
>>78081963
is BTFO
>>78095577
Most to least boring:
Kanaya
Calliope
Rose
Feferi
Jane
Dirk
Jake
Rest of the Trolls not mentioned in the list (only good for meme material and plot devices)
Jade
Terezi (Good Vriska who does nothing wrong, Hussie experimenting on turning a girlfriend character like her into a main one)
Caliborn (overrated antagonist)
Roxy (girlfriend character, had her flaws fixed)
Karkat (still a boring good guy who does nothing evil, despite self-loathing)
John (PoV character)
Dave (Hussie's self-insert and most developed character)
Vriska (So controversial and bullshit, you will always have something to talk about her)
Prove me wrong.
>>78095577
Jane, hell I would say all of the post-scratch kids considering their entire arc seemed to drag on with little payout other than the fact that they got their god tier outfits.
fuck off with that eceleb garbage.
>>78096222
Jane's pay-off was becoming a crockerdrone, that had been built up since her introduction
the other three have yet to finish their arc though but it's been pretty heavily telegraphed what it will be
>>78092339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4nntmjrEs4
Is it bad to thing Meenkat is as shitty as Davekat?
>>78097544
No. But then again I have shit taste so
>>78097544
Only if you are a butthurt Karezifag.
>>78097942
Ah, yup. That's me. Add me to the butthurt JohnVris pile as well.
>>78097942
I think karkat is terrible in any ship tbqh
>>78093156
>reading Homestuck fanfics
LOL
>>78098163
Just like Vriska.
Except fangirls see him only as an gay option, because lmao at having a manlet protect you. Better ship him with tall people like Gamzee, Sollux and Dave.
>>78098079
I am so sorry, but Hussie loves his changing relationships. Wouldn't surprise me though that Tavris and Karezi still happen in the end.
It's fucking Hussie. But fuck him for cockblocking those shipfags and promising other assholes a chance.
And fuck him again for turning a simple adventure comic into shipping wars.
>>78097544
Meena is trash, and Hussie ruined Dave with all his weird talk about sexuality.
>>78098387
As much of a shipper I am, it would've been better if he had kept ships low key. Maybe some flirting here or there and some end game stuff, maybe 1 or 2 confirmed developed relationships even. But all this getting together and breaking up off screen shit where almost every character has fucked each other in some universe is just....exhausting.
>>78098079
>he supported john x vriska
http://www.wikihow.com/Tie-a-Hangmans-Noose
>>78098387
>all those ships that happened and those unconfirmed ones
>pale Karkat/Kanaya
>flushed Kanaya/Tavros
>flushed Karkat/Vriska (>tfw no Nepeta rp askblogs throwing autismfits over that ship)
Nepeta, please.
thought it was a little incredible that hiveswap staff were making fun of the controversy on twitter
you'd think they'd learn something about being professional
>>78089345
>trusting Andrew "LIES" Hussie
>>78090090
It kind of sounds like Hussie wasn't paying attention to his own project and got screwed
>>78098382
For some people, the 800k+ words of Homestuck isn't enough. They crave more, and that's the only way to get it.
>>78100654
Not too mention many fanfics are arguably better than what the comic has been putting out for the past few years.
>>78081963
god james roach is a cunt
>>78100830
those are some of the most reasonable tweets he's made
but you're still right
>>78100747
I think "many" might be a little generous.
>>78100905
I suppose you're right. I actually only thinking of a handful.
I love webcomic drama. It's more OTT than regular comic drama.
who ARADIA here
>>78088224
That nigga ain't gonna be living there anymore, he's got literal millions.
>>78088465
>Implying Hussie's more than tangentially involved. Implying this changes that it's taking a team of several people just as long as one dude and a few friends making extra pixel art.
>>78096215
Can't really disagree
>>78100929
im better at writing equius than hussie
>>78101471
I think you're justhorsing around
>>78102022
i never stop horsing around
>>78101072
Vriska > Aradia
How do we fix Kanaya? She is fucking boring.
>>78106754
her only value was awkwardly integrating with human culture, now that's over there's nothing else for her
she needs to struggle to integrate with dersites or something for her to be interesting again
>>78106754
breaking up with rose is the only way
>>78106985
And then have her crawl back to Vriska? Fuck no.
>>78107031
not that i was implying that, but at least kanaya/vriska is more interesting
>>78106754
>How do we fix Kanaya?
by letting her have dialogue instead of standing awkwardly at the back of every group shot
kanaya as a character isn't boring she just hasn't done jack shit for ages
>>78107102
i'd say "oh it's okay hussie is just building up towards something awesome" but after the retcon and the sprite shit i don't really trust him as much as i used to
>>78107136
hey, at least she's not jane
>>78107212
jane's going to be the one to impale the condesce
>>78107228
that doesn't make her character less shit
>Hussie shooting down the possibility of Karkat joining Jade and Alt!Calliope
Now I am praying that he ends up with the ghost army.I just want to see Karkat and Vriska acting like angry manchildren and beating each other up.
>>78107251
but she isn't shit
>>78107296
cheesecake also doesn't make her character less shit
>>78107308
she has the same amount of character as john, really
>>78107358
being a pov tier character when nothing of interest happens from her pov especially doesn't make her character less shit
>>78107386
i think they're more than mere pov characters
>>78107102
>the last time kanaya did something was when she grew balls and slapped rose back to sobriety with them
>that got retconned so that vriska can do it instead
it's like
everything vriska "fixes" is just shit most characters have already done but "just a bit too late"
vriska's necessity is just so unconvincing
>>78095226
>Pay people to do something
>They don't do what is required of them and aren't transparent enough with information that they have despite the fact the backers have a right to know
No, it's more like people gave 1 million + to a kickstarter with the intent to get a product out of it. Since the overwhelming success of the kickstarter the vast majority of the money has been squandered with absolutely nothing to show for it. Since then the team has not been open about what they've doing with money that is to go towards the product.
It's nothing like buying and getting a game because they're getting what they spent their money on. Because the backers haven't (and may not be getting) what they put their money towards. They certainly wont be getting their 1 million + quality that they rightfully earned.
>>78107943
some backers never even got sent those merch paks they had as rewards
>>78083169
it was posting hussies gf's steam account info and telling ppl how to access peoples private accounts in a separate post that did him in.
he made everyone else legitimately trying to find out wtf they were doing with the fandoms money look bad. generally if a kickstarter goes silent for half a year then its a scam/failure. while it was a dbag thing to do on their part, the lack of communication from wp was still the root of the problem.
>>78095273
oh yeah thats weird....
>>78081963
Why do people hire drama queens for their video games?
>>78111689
they can't afford actual professionals i assume
>>78088484
From what I gather, the NDA is mostly due to a certain company using half the money to make a certain other game that they weren't supposed to with it.
>>78092338
>Implying Toby Fox was the writer of Homestuck the whole time and not just an influence on an equally adept creative mind
>>78089345
>The game is really making good progress, you guys! I mean it!
>>78112085
that shouldn't affect them at this point, these new employees haven't even worked with them
>>78098079
>Add me to the butthurt JohnVris pile
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one, they were cute
>>78112085
Or just because Hussie predicted troubled development and doesn't want anyone leaking it
Or spoilers, or otherwise
Honestly who the fuck knows what that bastard is thinking at this point
>Tfw Homestuck is never going to finish.
>>78114333
Don't worry anon, it'll finishTwo days after your death
>>78114272
dave and jade were the cutest
>>78091682
he has low functioning autism
>>78101241
Ever since undertale blew up Toby's parents live with him.
>>78114473
>Has the capability to sit and stare at his screen for 16 hours a day drawing cartoony doodles and right droves of dialog like a braindead mental patient
It checks out. Huss has snowglobe syndrome.
>>78098079
>>78114123
Don't worry! Vriska will end up with Jake, because Jake's character description makes him destined to fall in love with blue spiderbitches! Just like Terezi and red shit!
>>78114903
Jake's not John though
>>78091300
>>78099985
I work at a small company that jobs stuff out to contractors. It is not unusual at all for them to ask for half payment up front, even when they have a whole bunch of milestones to hit before they'll unlock further payments. The thing that protects you is that the industry is small and they have a reputation to uphold. The game industry doesn't quite work that way, and the big studios profit hugely from deceiving people about the particulars of why, so it does not surprise me that even an otherwise experienced businessman would make a misstep like hiring TOG.
>>78115549
>otherwise experienced businessman
he can't even sell shirts right
>>78114903
Or just blue girls in general
>>78115584
I mean, he wasn't running What Pumpkin by himself.
>>78115549
>I work at
your lying & i stopped reading
>>78081313
Wait, Skull Man? The same one who made those old Penny Arcade edits in Fixedsys font? Huh.
>>78115831
who?
>>78115981
roxykitten is the new hot commodity, get with the times
>>78115929
The guy who made the tweets this thread is about, apparently.
I just clicked on the thread for its eye-catching OP image to wonder who this tweeter we're all talking about is, and after reading it I'm still not sure who it is.
>>78116055
it's someone who's sold things on topatoco before, and they used to be a teacher
apparently they also had a webcomic at one point but it only made it like three pages before stopping
no idea who skull man is though, considering the tweeter is a woman i kind of doubt it.
>>78115981
>the ecountless threads filled with endless autistic eri corps shitposting
I feel old.
>>78116105
That one.
>>78116163
it says 'skull mandible' you chode
>>78116263
That's the name they use on Twitter. I was referring to their Wubble Woo handle.
>>78116378
well whatever, if it is the same person as skull man i don't actually know anything about them either, so it doesn't matter
>>78081963
he types like a fucking tumblr female, disgusting
>>78116454
read the thread, it IS a woman
>>78116534
christ, who trusted a female with responsibility?
>>78116595
dude if you're gonna shit on her you can shit on her writing, like seriously out of all the things relating to hiveswap you could be mad about you go for her being a woman?
>>78116607
I haven't attacked her womanhood
>>78116617
the fuck are you talking about
Headcanon: All doomed Gamzees, Araneas and Vriskas are shoved in a dreambubble hell
GO!Karkat is also there
>>78117014
>Vriskas
No anon, why would a hero like her end up in hell?
>>78117131
Gamzee is also a hero and he ended up in hell as well
Karkat is the only one who is truly evil.
>>78116105
>>78116534
Okay, are you saying that @skullmandible is a woman or are we talking about someone else? I'm getting conflicting info, here.
>>78117377
skullmandible is a woman, skull man MIGHT be skullmandible but idk who that is
>>78117686
>My patreon page, if you want to see what I'm supporting
the fuck? who plugs their patreon account when they don't even accept money
>>78117748
When they want to let everyone know that they're financially supporting Zoë Quinn and Kate Leth, apparently.
>>78098079
>>78114123
It was the 8est.
>>78117808
I want to know what the job requirements are at What Pumpkin, more specifically how emasculated you have to be.
>>78118069
>be friends with the clique
>that's it
>>78118094
I'm glad nepotism is alive and well.
>>78081313
>jewish ghosts
>>78117686
He looks kind of like the faggy pajama hipster hispanic who posed for Obama's insurance ads
>>78118127
hindu spirits
>>78118135
Who?
>>78118517
This guy?
>>78117842
You know what is 8etter?
Vriska helping out alien opposite!John.
>>78118609
>Vriska helping out alien opposite!John.
No, also I'm not positive who you're referring to at this point
>>78117842
You always have fanfics anonUnless Hussie does something to ruin all end ships,like say Jade destroys them,then your head canon can go wild how John and Vriska will get back together
>>78118626
Good.
>>78118638
The last VriskaXJohn fic I read had Vriska cheating on John with his best friend Karkat and Dave wanted to gay up John.
>>78118663
>The last VriskaXJohn fic I read had Vriska cheating on John with his best friend Karkat and Dave wanted to gay up John.
I think that would be a DaveXJohn fic, only using JohnXVriska to get them together, either way find better JohnXVrska ficsOn a side note I really wish there were less shitty Complete AUs cluttering up most fanfic sites
>>78118638
I can't think of a single good John/Vriska fanfiction.
>>78118663
last one I read had Vriska nearly kill a guy with a fire escape after being triggered by a mounted bull head
>>78118696
I've seen a few, in most of them it wasn't the focus though, most also haven't been updated in a few years
>>78118703
>after being triggered by a mounted bull head
It took me a second to realize what the logic was behind this, seriously doubt she'd get triggered from something like that but I kinda want a link, sounds like it might be funny
>>78118682
I hate how every fucking AU was always John/Karkat, Rosemary, Dave/Terezi, and now it's Dave/Karkat and Rosemary
>>78118725
http://archiveofourown.org/works/582309/chapters/1045675
>>78118727
Meh, I can stand canon pairings in AUs as long as it's not "they meet and suddenly fall in love", keeping canon chemistry is easy plus shipping so I can get why they'd do that, John/Karkat doesn't have that excuse though
>>78118743
Thanks, it's 6 AM so I'll probably read it in the morning/afternoon when I get up
>>78118727
You could blame Tumblr, but tumblr is just what deviantart was back in 2005.
Here's hoping there will be as much an upset as Naruto's endgame pairs caused.
>>78118770
>Here's hoping there will be as much an upset as Naruto's endgame pairs caused.
I'm honestly hoping for the endgame to either have no pairings and everyone deciding to just be friends, a distant epilogue where they ended up pairing up with completely new characters, or Hussie somehow pulling a full circle and the endgame pairings being everyone's first "canon pairing"
>>78118786
>or Hussie somehow pulling a full circle and the endgame pairings being everyone's first "canon pairing"
That would probably cause the most upset.
Let's do it.
This is making me think, is Joey going to have chatlogs and stuff, or is it just going to be narration explaining what she's thinking
God I fucking hate all of you people at this point.
>>78119069
comedy adventure games usually let you pick different humorous responses during dialog.
>There will be something that makes Vriska being retconned into the story (and all the nonstop focus and erased development it involves) 1000% worth it
>Karkat will have his moment of glory and Tavros will actually have a character arc because there is totally enough time left, guys
>Terezi will stop hanging out with people who poison her everyday life
>The space players are going to be interesting
>The comic will acknowledge forms of abuse other than Bro's on Dave
>We'll learn about the Ultimate Riddle and other major plot points that were dropped will resurface along with answers
>Something will justify the existence of all these new minor sprite characters
>Jane and Jake will get some character development
>The updates will resume before April 2016
>The updates will resume before 2017, period
>The Hiveswap Kickstarter stretch goals won't be ignored
>The game will be worth the hiatus
>The game will be worth anything
Post more lies.
>>78119069
As he types in the air the words the words are made manifest. The world of tomorrow.
Printing is possible, but unsavory.
>>78119102
>The comic will acknowledge forms of abuse other than Bro's on Dave
it also had Vriska on Tavros and Gamzee on Terezi and Doc Scratch on Handmaid
When will the adjective!person fad die? 90% of the time you can just use a space there and it has literally the same meaning for everyone reading and it doesn't make you look like a special snowflake retard.
>>78119158
it's survived since Livejournal. It's not dying anytime soon.
>>78119158
Not anytime time soon. Welcome to an illiterate hell.
>>78119102
>Jane and Jake will get some character development
Jane got sick of being a doormat, Jake got sick of pretending he was anything but an excitable couch potato
>>78119120
"Have" is not "acknowledge".
There was a massive chatlog about how Bro's shit fucked Dave up.
Now look at Terezi, there's been some mentions of the consequences of Gamzee's physical abuse, but not much on Vriska's emotional vampirism.
And then there's Tavros, for whom it's basically "Dave gets violently thrown down stairs: the character arc".
Ideally, if the comic's going to show the characters talking about how abuse fucked them up, it should do so with all currently relevant characters, not just Dave.
But I'm saying it's unlikely to happen.
>>78090669
I liked it, more when?
>>78119102
>Karkat will have his moment of glory
HE DECAPITATES VRISKA
MARK MY WORDS
I'm so sick of waiting for the hiatus to end. Why could Hussie have a one page per week schedule or something? It would've been better than this.
>>78119244
>HE DECAPITATES VRISKA
>Her clock is broke, it's neither a Heroic or Just death
>This is only learned after Vriska resurrects off panel and stabs him in the back
>>78119264
>Hussie adopts one page per week
>He never mentioned which week
>>78082806
>So I saw the post the guy made telling everyone how hiveswap is super fucked
Not super fucked, but basically, they had to fire a lot of people.
>>78119277
There's no escape from this torture
>>78119069
Wonder how bitter Joey is towards her dad
>>78083169
>Then suddenly after the chick who drew porn of the beehive troll got angry someone linked her publicly posted deviantart where she talked about hiveswap laying people off
Can you be clearer about that?
All she did was post a log about how she was jobless again. She actually mentionned that the working condition at Hiveswap were actually quite good.
>>78119244
Reminder that Homestuck characters who plan on killing a Serket tend to go for the neck.
>>78119316
(Forgot the pic.)
>>78119316
>>78119322>Shortly before she gets decapitated, Vriska has a chatlog that calls back to her mind controlling Jade, with her mentioning in preparation for Grimbark!Jade she practiced a bit more mind controlling humans, and though she did make progress it never worked quite right
>Vriska gets her head torn off like in the prophesy
>As her head rolls on the ground her mindcontrol powers activate before fading a way as she dies>When Jade next shows up she's acting a bit odd, most notably she's using lots of 8s in her speech and occasionally manifesting THIEF and LIGHT powers in addition to her WITCH and SPACE powers
>No one notices because they just chalk it up to her being by herself for 3 years
>>78119270
>implying he didn't plan this to end his suffering once and for all
>>78119376
>Implying Vriska hasn't decided to not kill any more of her "friends"/people that tolerate her and just severs his spine leaving him paralyzed from the neck down
>>78119102
>>There will be something that makes Vriska being retconned into the story (and all the nonstop focus and erased development it involves) 1000% worth it
Well, the convo between Dave and Roxy make it.
>Karkat will have his moment of glory and Tavros will actually have a character arc because there is totally enough time left, guys
Well, he might be about to lead a ghost army in Dreambubble, I'd say. As for Tavos, is ghost part at least got his character Arc.
>Terezi will stop hanging out with people who poison her everyday life
She actually did. (partly thanks to the Vriska retcon)
>The space players are going to be interesting
The kind of ominous fate implied for Jade being linked to the sun power actually make he interesting.
>The comic will acknowledge forms of abuse other than Bro's on Dave
Gamzee. And, to a lesser level, Drik with Jake.
>We'll learn about the Ultimate Riddle and other major plot points that were dropped will resurface along with answers
We learned about the ultimate riddle a long time ago, it's that the players are their own ectoclones. Mind you we had other interresting revelation, like Lord English being partly made of Arquius and HAlf Gamzee, making Doc Scratch effectively Rose's Uncle.
>Something will justify the existence of all these new minor sprite characters
Well, Arquius is already justified by being part of Lord English, as for Davepetasprite, Jasprosesprite, Tavrossprite having now first guardian power and Nannasprite being now double and interracting with her younger clone, it all seems very promising.
>Jane and Jake will get some character development
Jane is going to have a moment with her old -self as for Jake, we'll see how he handle stuff with Jack Noir. We already know his hope power almost cause the defeat of Lord English.
>>78119209
>but not much on Vriska's emotional vampirism.
It was acknowledged and resolved. Vriska and Terezi are in better term since they have becom moirail. There is no more vampirism than in a normal moiral relationship.
>>78119209
>And then there's Tavros, for whom it's basically
The whole abuse between tavros and Vriska has been acknowledged and in some way sorted out, though.
>>78119391
>not knowing that Karkat unlocked his candyred blood powers
>implying he doesn't teleport behind Vriska and stabs her back
>>78119209
>>78119424
Dave's conversation with terezi where he kinda tries to defend bro
the conversation with rose where he admits bro was awful
Dave and dirk have one of the biggest and longest conversations in all of homestuck about how shitty bro was to him
Bonus: bro died years ago and dave meet dirk after he realized how awful he was to jake.
(tavros) forgave vriska for everything after tavriskasprite exploded
became obsessed with marrying her
slipped right being meenah's butt monkey after his dance
tavrosprite said all the horrible things vriska said and did to him are both true and deserved
The only time they focus on the shit vriska's done to tavros is when SHE feels bad about it.
>>78119733
>(tavros) forgave vriska for everything after tavriskasprite exploded
>became obsessed with marrying her
Forgot the part where he quit that idea
Forgot the part where he literraly tell vriska to fuck off and stopp being his lap monkey
Forgot the part where he fly away while double flipping the bird
Then came back to prove Vriska once again wrong.
and all of this was magnificent.
>slipped right being meenah's butt monkey after his dance
Had Meenah done anything bad to tavros. Isn't Tavros allowed to give a setp to some random girl.
>tavrosprite said all the horrible things vriska said and did to him are both true and deserved
Tavrossprite has still some learning to do, but Ghost Tavros definitely got his character arc and stopped being Vriska's bitch.
>>78119733
Didn't (Tavros) flip off (Vriska) after realizing how shit she is?
>>78119733
Thank you for saying it. What we have right now for Tavros/Vriska is Vriska basically saying "ok, MAYBE I did some awful things BUT it's not fucked up because I mean well" something like three times tops in her whole arc, and then immediately going back to abusing him.
Acknowledging abuse as a Thing That Happened In The Story involves at least one character calling that specific dynamic abuse, or drawing attention to how fucked up and damaging it's been to the victim. This has not happened.
>>78119801
>>78119806
The victim escaping the abuser's grasp (which has only been temporary in Tavros's case) has nothing to do with abuse being acknowledged.
>Some good things have temporarily happened to Tavros, therefore, abuse was acknowledged
I don't understand the way you guys think.
>>78119413
Are we reading the same comic?
You know, the one where Terezi Pyrope meekly goes along with every single one of Vriska's suggestions because she's so sorry for almost having killed her? To the point of being totally ok with Vriska not bringing back Feferi and Nepeta? The comic where Vriska regularly asks her for approval and Terezi is desperate to give it no matter what? Seriously?
>>78119801
This is about how the story treats tavros's abuse by vriska compared to dave's by bro.
>Had Meenah done anything bad to tavros. Isn't Tavros allowed to give a setp to some random girl.
Meenah has done things just as bad as if not worse then vriska during the course of the story. After assembling a friend army meenah used tavros as a podium and gave a speech (to his army) about how they're cannon fodder who will die for her bacause sh's so great.
>>78119806
After (tavros) flipped off (vriska) he was gone from the story for 3 years, During that time time we had two vriska constantly talking about how they felt.
>>78119852
>The victim escaping the abuser's grasp (which has only been temporary in Tavros's case) has nothing to do with abuse being acknowledged.
But it's not what happens. Tavros literally acknowledge everything bad Vriska has done to him. Shove her nose in her own dirt and go away not to flee, but simply because he has no reason to stay.
This is not escaping the abuser's grasp, it's kicking him in the balls before dsimply minding your own business.
And he only come back to prove Vriska even more.
the abuse was acknoledged, addressed, and, unlike with Dave (because Bro was already dead), Tavros was able to tell everything to her face and actually get back at her.
>To the point of being totally ok with Vriska not bringing back Feferi and Nepeta?
We have not been reading the same comic, because this is not what happened.
First, it's not the same Terezi, second, it's not that she is okay to not bring back Nepeta and Terezi, it's simply that she agree to keep the sprite as a last resort option.
>The comic where Vriska regularly asks her for approval and Terezi is desperate to give it no matter what? Seriously?
Not what happens.
>>78119891
>This is about how the story treats tavros's abuse by vriska compared to dave's by bro.
Once again, the moment when Tavros flip off to vriska and fly away completely acknowledge the abuse.
>Meenah has done things just as bad as if not worse then vriska during the course of the story. After assembling a friend army meenah used tavros as a podium and gave a speech (to his army) about how they're cannon fodder who will die for her bacause sh's so great.
But did she do anything to Tavros? Why should Tavros resent her?
>>78119929
>Once again, the moment when Tavros flip off to vriska and fly away completely acknowledge the abuse.
Bro's dead, and dave got to talk to multiple people along the story about how he feels about what happened to him. One of those people is a version of his bro who realized how awful he can be towards other people.
(tavros) flip off led him to be out of the story for 3 years while we followed two vriskas around and (tavros) still ended right back with vriska when the story came back to him.
>But did she do anything to Tavros? Why should Tavros resent her?
Meenah treats (tavros) just as bad as vriska. Remember the pirate journey where meenah told him to keep bowing and worshiping her? We saw how long it took him to realize how shitty vriska was do we really need that to happen again but this time with fish version of vriska.
>>78119920
>>78119929
>i do not know what "acknowledgement" means
dude, if nobody in the story says it was abuse and bad for tavros, then it wasn't acknowledged
acknowledgement isn't things happening, it's things being said that are like "ok, that was a thing that happened and it was abuse and it had this consequence and that consequence".
until nobody calls vriska's action abusive or draws attention to how it has been incredibly hurtful to tavros to the point of trauma, there is no acknowledgement. story events are not acknowledgement.
>>78120013
>(tavros) flip off led him to be out of the story for 3 years while we followed two vriskas around and (tavros) still ended right back with vriska when the story came back to him.
Tavros didn't just flip her off, though, he told to her everything that was wrong with her and why she was awful.
And him being absent from the story after that doesn't back in any way your point. The abuse of Vriska toward tavors was still adressed and resolved. His lack of appearance has zero impact on that.
>Meenah treats (tavros) just as bad as vriska.
No?
>Remember the pirate journey where meenah told him to keep bowing and worshiping her?
She didn't coerce him into anything. Nor did he treat tavros like shit no matter what he does. At this point, it look more like a game of pretend than anything. And Ghost Tavros is at a point where he woulf let Meenah fell flat would she start loosing her shit like Vriska.
>>78120018
It's 100% acknowledged.
It was even acknowledged back then by Kanaya.
Fuck, It was even acknowledged by Araadia, who started to make Ghosts haunt Vriska as a payback for what Vriska had done to Tavros.
Vriska abuse was acknowledged ant in the end resulted with her losing an eye and her arms.
Also:
TAVROS: i THINK YOUR MEAN SPIRITED ANGRINESS IS MAKING ME REMEMBER, tO WONDER WHY i KEEP WANTING TO HELP YOU AND LIKE YOU,
TAVROS: aND i THINK IT'S MAKING ME THINK, i DON'T REALLY CARE ANYMORE ABOUT FINDING THE RING, oR FINDING THIS TREASURE,
TAVROS: oR HELP YOU DO ARGUABLY EVIL THINGS TO GHOST FRIENDS, tO GET YOUR OBJECTIVES TO HAPPEN,
VRISKA: Tavros, what exactly are you trying to say?
TAVROS: i THINK, tHE BOTTOM LINE OF THAT, iS,
TAVROS: i DON'T WANT TO BE YOUR POOPMASTER ANYMORE,
TAVROS: sO i'M NOT GOING TO BE
TAVROS: fLY, pUPA,
TAVROS: fLYYYYY,
TAVROS: (heheHehE,)
TAVROS: (ehHHehehEheH, oH yEs,)
TAVROS: (heheHEHEHEhehEhEheh, so clEVEr,)
TAVROS: (how i refEreNCed, whaT wEre onCE, scoRNfUl remArKS dIreCtED at me, eheHahAHa!)
TAVROS: (hahAhehE, so sicK! sO sICk!!!!,)
VRISKA: WE CAN ALL HEAR YOU WH8SPERING FROM D8WN HERE SHIT F8R 8RAINS!!!!!!!!
SOLLUX: hey tavr0s, wait up, i think i'm c0ming with y0u.
>>78120063
The argument is how the story treats dave's abuse compared to tavros's
>His lack of appearance has zero impact on that.
Bro has been dead for 3 years during that time dave has had constant screen time. He has friends and family and the story has gone out of its way to keep dave and dirk from meeting until the very end.
Tavros was literally removed from the story after he told vriska to eat shit until she showed up again, and that was after vriska yelled at tavros and jake for being awful while she was surrounded by people that SHOULD have told her to fuck off.
>>78120063
>>78120135
>this guy thinks THAT's what "acknowledging abuse" means
i can feel my brain cells committing suicide one by one
>>78120159
>The argument is how the story treats dave's abuse compared to tavros's
There is no requirmenet for "equal treatement", just because there is mess text doesn't mean it's less important.
And you seem to have forgotten that Tavros's abus has led to the most important dynamic between Vriska, Aradia, Terezi and Damra. All of those are the consequence of how Vriska treated tavros.
>Bro has been dead for 3 years during that time dave has had constant screen time. He has friends and family and the story has gone out of its way to keep dave and dirk from meeting until the very end.
>Tavros was literally removed from the story after he told vriska to eat shit until she showed up again, and that was after vriska yelled at tavros and jake for being awful while she was surrounded by people that SHOULD have told her to fuck off.
And none of that make the fact that the abuse of Vriska toward Tavros was addressed less true. As a matter of fact, to make your point you seem tp purposely forget that the Tavros-Vriska dynamic has been an ongoing thing, brought out almost more than the Bro-Dave dynamic throughout the whole comic.
the tavros-Vriska dynamic is one of the biggest arc of the comic.
>>78120135
Look, I think there's a communication issue here. You seem to have a completely different definition of acknowledgement. Could you give it to us? If we can compare, maybe we'll be able to reach a conclusion.
