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/co/'s favorite writer will be writing Marvel's next big event!
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Civil War 2? Like, a second one?
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>>78003644
Oh boy, another several issues long event about people sitting around doing nothing of any importance before a rushed ending!
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HAHAHAHAHAHA.
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>>78003654
Yep, same creative team as Iron Man. Guess that book is gonna get a new artist or go on break while this event goes on.

>http://comicbook.com/2015/12/07/marvel-announces-civil-war-ii-creative-team/
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>>78003644
oh goooooooooooddammit
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Secretly everyone is a Bendis fan. Sure people here like to feel they have superior taste by calling him shit, hack or whatever they want. They feel better knowing their current indy darling is way better than the top dog at Marvel because it somehow validates the comics they are reading and that's fine.

And yeah the things people complain about Bendis are true as well. He likes to write for trades with slow pacing arcs and his characteristic dialogue. Not to mention putting the stories over any kind of continuity fans want to be acknowledged.

But it's also true that what he does is exactly what Marvel needs. He actually puts some effort in trying to change and advance these characters. You people always criticize his changes because you don't want your characters to advance that fast. Maybe if a change is teased and slowly build then in ten years you will accept it but Bendis doesn't have ten years. He wants to move forward himself not wait until his grandsons do the job for him. You hate him for that but it's what Marvel need. His stories also appeal to the readers. He writes what they want to read. Compare Guardians of the Galaxy against Inhumans. Both had the same number of variants but Bendis still won because he writes the team of Guardians people are interested in reading, accuse him of waifuing or whatever but people accpeted Kitty as Star-Lord because Bendis sold her to them in the first issue. He also put the Avengers on the map and some might say he did it by using gimmicks and events but he was the one who dared to pull these gimmicks and events, and they worked. People liked it. Bendis does know what people want. /co/ of course has other ideas, and most likely those ideas would send Marvel into bankruptcy again.

Bendis works, and /co/ loves him. All the hate messages are just the way they have to show their love.
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>>78003654
The second. The number 2.
There will be two civil wars now.
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>>78003644
Cool, I guess.
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Wonderful
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>>78003689
Two Civil Wars? There was a first Civil War?
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>>78003676
Same team as Iron Man? Marvel's Iron Man? The team that writes him?

They're writing Civil War 2? The second one?
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>>78003644
This is not the future i wanted
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>reading Marvel
It's what you deserve, really.
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>>78003644

god damnit
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>>78003682
Go to bed Bendis. You're a fucking hack that ruined the Xmen.
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>>78003644
Wasn't he working for DC doing the darkseid war?
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>>78003732
No, no, no. Focus on Rightclops and grabbing all of spotlight is what ruined X-Men.
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HOUSE OF IDEAS
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>>78003644
I bet it's going to sell even more than Secret Wars
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>>78003644
>Another Civil War
>And it's written by Bendis
What have we done to deserve this?
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Well...the upshot is that the girls will look hot.
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>>78003732
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nigga, do you even know who your talking about? He's the master of Marvel, the king of comics, the future Editor-in-Chief. He has 2 shows based on his creations, Powers and Jessica Jones, and someday Mile Morales will be the next Spider-man in movies or TV.

Sorry mate, but Bendis is the King of Marvel. Those on Team Bendis will guard any and all storylines created by Bendis, or expand on it. I mean look at this shit >>77869998

Once he finally runs Marvel, we will enter an era of Bendis continuity. As long as there's a franchise with a movie or TV show, it won't be safe from Bendis Continuity.

He' the future Editor-in-Chief of Marvel, and the other writers at marvel know it. The ones that aren't with him are off doing Star Wars.
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>>78003703
Yes, there was one civil war, and now there will be two.
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>>78003644
>This will sell like cold water on the Sahara desert
>Marvel will give more events to Bendis
>And more ongoings
This not be funny, but boy oh boy, this is going to be shit
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As if we didn't see this one coming.
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Oooh oooh, can we have Kamala beat the shit out of Carol?!
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>>78003644
>Bendis writing civil war

MY FUCKING SIDES
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Marvel is literally EA now
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Im legitimately starting to hate him.
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>>78003644
In moments like that, I am happy that I'm X-fag.
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Christ, Marvel is fucking shameless.
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>>78003847
>Avengers fans hate him
>X-Fags hate him
What are you reading, anon? Hulk?
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>>78003644
I think I'll pass on reading that
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>worst event in 616
>redone by worst writer in 616

How little fucking self awareness does this company have, holy shit

DC was never this retarded, even with countdown.
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I always love these announcements because of all the pounding of sand you nerds do.

>tfw I'm gonna support the fuck outta this and there's nothing you can do to stop me
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>>78003856
>happy that you're an Xfag
Are you a masochist or something?
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>>78003682
>words words words
Go to bed, Bendis.
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So that's why Marquez is off Iron Man
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>>78003861
Only internet fans hate him. You know, the ones that don't buy comics.
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Can we officially say Marvel hit a wall and it doesn't know what to do anymore?
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>>78003644
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>78003891
Yes, I am. What's your excuse?
And at least I won't have to read CW II, nor watch it in cinemas.
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Guardians of the Galaxy is fucking awesome. I cant even fathom the amount of shit it's getting on /co/

Its just like the movie, which got good reviews, and its one of the highest selling comics in the world right now and for good reason

>b-but its not MUH GUARDIANS!
lol fuck off. Nobody cared or knew who they were before the movie. Consider actually having fun once in your life, thats what the run is, fun. Since when is NOT MUH a valid criticism? They're basically taking the gotg name and making it something better, there's nothing wrong with that.

Its basically the exact same for Kitty Pryde. Reinventing a C-list character into a badass renegade which is also selling well and everyone is enjoying it aside from you /co/ntrarians. Why is that exactly?
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>>78003644
Just in time for the movie.
So what will the plot be this time? Another SHRA act?
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This is just hilarious.

Even if Marvel comics are pure shit now, at least I can get a hearty laugh from announcements like this.
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>>78003949
Delicious pasta my family.
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>>78003682
I like some of his stuff, yeah. Death of Spider-Man still makes me tear up.
Doesn't change the fact that when he's out of his element, he sucks massive balls.
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>>78003883
>Best-selling event in 616 that's getting a movie based on it
>redone by highest-selling writer in 616
Fix'd that for you
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>>78003978
I am so hungry
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>>78003949
show that picture, where kitty spreads her legs for The Thing.
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>>78003644
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>>78003644
When are we going to get off Bendis Wild ride /co/ ?
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This does not sound like something I want to read
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This is the fate we deserve. Too many good things have happened recently, this is our penance.
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>>78003954
Whatever it is, Tony is bad guy, Captain Falcon is good guy, Old Man Steve will support Tony then switch sides for Falcon.
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I bet you this won't be the last Civil War either
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>>78003954
The movie's Registration Act is more about government control of superhumans that it is about the whole secret identity database thing.
Maybe it'll be like that
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>Secret Wars 3
>Civil War 2

What do you think will be next?
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>>78004001
When some fine American /co/mrade axes him.
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>>78004028
Siege 2: Electric boogaloo
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>>78004001
See >>78003782
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>>78003682
nope fuck off

read one issue of usm and a few parody avx comics and nothing else hes ever touched

you are probably autistic if you read comics based on what character brands are represented and not who worked on them
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>>78004028
I wouldn't mind AXIS II: X-Men Kills Marvel Universe. I know, I know.
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I am happy that the x-men wont take part in this, for one i am happy they are in limbo and i welcome the idea of apocalypse wars
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>>78003644

Why is there a second one?

WHO WANTED A SECOND ONE?
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>>78004028
Siege 2 starring fem Thor
Secret Invasion 2
Secret Wars 4
The Crossing 2
Clone Saga 2
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>>78004071
>Welcoming the idea of a event that will be used to kill more Muggas
How can you be this delusional ?
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>>78003644
Predict sides now
>Team Fascist:
>Iron Man
>Black Widow
>Black Panther
>Vision
>War Machine
>Captain Marvel
>Ms Marvel (she switches sides halfway through)
>The Ultimates
>The Inhumans (they want in)

>Team MUH FREEDOM
>Captain Falcon
>Old Man Steve
>Jane Thor
>Hawkeye
>Scarlet Witch
>Uncanny Avengers
>AIMvengers
>The X-Men (unless they're too busy fucking around again)

>Wild cards
>Squadron Supreme
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>>78004001
Just stop reading or even paying attention to his output. Worked for me with Slott.
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>>78004099
Spider-Man will probably mostly stay neutral because he has a company to run now, but will support the resistance in secret.
Or maybe they use this as an oportunity to bring Spider-Man back to the status quo just like after the original Civil War
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>>78004099
X-Men sit out the first Civil War, so I don't think they will give a fuck about superheroes killing each other. They might take the popcorn and just watch idly. Inhumans, on the other hand, might join the Falcon team, because of diversity quota.
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>>78004093
>Evan becomes new paco lips
>teen ice man,beast, cyclops and ángel are the horsemen
>Jean dies trying to free them with the phoenix or something
>everyone recover except for Jean

I dont see the problem family
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>>78004140
i like the way you think familia
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>>78003644
/co/'s favorite writer? Who do you mean?

Brian Michael Bendis

Bendis?

Yeah Bendis.

The same Bendis who wrote Alias.

Yeah, that Bendis.

Oh. Him.
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>>78004139
I think the Inhumans will be split.
The ruling class (Medusa and the other royals) might decide to cooperate with the government in order to gain more power and influence while some Nuhumans join the resistance
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>>78004028
IvX

Inhumans vs X-Men.
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Why do people think it's going to be about registration again? Lord knows there are other reasons heroes can fight other heroes.
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>>78004192
With Ororo "let's put everyone in Limbo and pray that Magik won't be knocked out" Munroe as leader.
It'll be glorious massacre.
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Last Civil War had a giant black man killed by a robotic aryan god made by a former Nazi scientist.

What will happen this time?
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>>78004192
Frankly, it would be boring. AvX was bad, but had interesting characters and PENIS five. Shithumans are a wallpaper at best.
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They better pit Tumblr favorites against each other.
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Thanks Obama
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>>78004219
Kitty will turn them all into Jews.
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>>78003925
They exactly what to do.

Make Fucking money
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But will it have only 32 variant covers?
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>>78004242
you do realize that this is what's going to happen?
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>>78004236
Oh god, imagine how hard that universe's Fox news's collective dicks would get if they could use Deadpool and his shit as the latest "proof" that Obama's secretly muslim Hitler, like Benghazi or the terrorist fist bump
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>>78004258
>32
It will have 61 variant covers, 31 of then will be just blank 10 will be made by tumblr artist
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>>78003644
I expect that whatever happens, Fox News will complain about it
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Typical anti-Bendis brigade. You guys are the worst of the worst. Always crying because Marvels best writer is reinvigorating comics with his top selling stories. I bet you guys are the same idiots crying about the X-men too. Well too bad, his X-men run is highly praised everywhere else like reddit, and will go down as one of the best. Issue 600 took old and boring characters and reinvigorated them into a new progressive age. You guys need to catch up instead of staying stuck in the past.

And there is nothing you can do to stop the Bendis train, lol.
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I just don't know why can't they be a little more creative with titles. We already had Civil War. We already had Secret Wars.

Guess I'll just wait for House of M 2.
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>>78003644
HAHAHAAHAHAHA

Fucking called it. All those reddit fags thinking Bendis is on Iron Man because he actually wanted to write Iron Man and not because of easy movie money BTFO. Every time there is a movie around the corner, Bendis will get top billing. kek, all those retards having no idea why Bendy boy got so many Iron Man variants. It's just too predictable at this point.

>b-but what about Gillen?
Did Gillen get the marketing push that Bendis is getting? Bendis is getting hype from all the Civil War hype, Iron Man is pretty much seen in all ANAD related things, and the dude gets to piggy back off other writers push too. Same shit happened when he was announced on X-men and GotG. It's not Bendis, it's just that he gets the best marketing when it's time to push something popular like X-men, GotG, and now Iron Man. Plus he has the best reddit circlejerk sucking him off whenever anyone talks shit about their main man Bendis.
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>>78004242
I'm actually Jewish and I hate Kitty. I knew too many girls like her, Jewish and not, especially the shittiest parts of her personality.

The cutest and greatest X-man Jew-Fu is Jewbilee
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What is triggering the war this time?

What is it about?
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>>78004314
How many pastas have been posted on this thread alone ?
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>>78003790
What's the purpose of this Civil War? The second one I mean. Civil War 2
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why would ANYONE in canon want to be apart of a Civil War again? It was terrible for everyone involved. Fuck, Captain America dies at the end of it.

Here I thought Civil War was pretty sacred in Marvel's eyes. Their "Phoenix Saga". You'd at least wait for hair to grow on it before running back for the sequel.
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>>78004328
and it still had the biggest drop of all iron man books ever. from over 200k to 60k. and I don't think the sales will increase.
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Tell me bros, will Bendis sign another Marvel exclusive after his current one ends?

I'm scared he might do DC books in the future.
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>>78003644
So how soon after Stand Off will this be?
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>>78004099
>>Squadron Supreme
I don't think Bendis cares about the Squadron Supreme, so I doubt they'll play a role in the main event, but I'm sure in the tie-ins Nighthawk will take advantage of everything
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>>78004341
Five?
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>>78004333
Have you ever thought of converting to other belief?
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>>78004333
Trips confirm, hail to the queen of the Jews.

L'chiam!
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>>78004341
Looks like all 4 of them are here, but the first one caught the most bait since it's first come first serve.
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>>78004397
She looks good there. Where is it from?
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>>78004372
Nah. Bendis hates DC.
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>>78004368
Consider this, casuals don't shut up about Civil War and it is easy money.
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>>78004418
Yet he did write one Batman story.
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>>78004417
Your local synagogue.
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>>78004397
Jubilee thread?
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>>78004371
Nigga, that's how it works. It's fucking Marvel, the masters of the "Easy Money Formula." Give it a couple months for a new Iron Man #1 which will once again have high sales to make up for the lack of sales later on. Same shit for all the other books.
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>>78004333
She's not even jewish.

Perfect Jewish girl will always be Kitty.
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>>78004383
>Stand-off ends
>2 months later Avengers books are already involved in another crossover
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>>78004372
>Bendis.
>Ever leaving Marvel.
>Implying he won't run the company.

This isn't pasta >>78003782, it's the truth.
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>>78004488
Kitty sucks. She is 80s relic.
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>>78003812
>affects almost all of our books
As someone who, unlike most of /co/, has actually really been enjoying a lot of the ANAD books.

SON OF A FUCKING WHORE.
WHY.
It was awful when Civil War I did it and there's no way in hell it won't be awful with Civil War II doing it!
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>>78004488
>>78004499
checked. so, Kitty is ultimate jew, but she sucks anyway.
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>>78003814
Oh god... Bendis would totally put Carol and Kamala on opposing sides
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>>78004383
I think Standoff starts this.
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>>78003938
>And at least I won't have to read CW II, nor watch it in cinemas
Instead you get Apocalypse War, which I get the impression won't be much better.

Though, to be fair, at least it's not Bendis.
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>>78004328
>implying Bendis wouldn't have gotten the job whether he was writing Iron Man or not
He's the only big fish Marvel has right now. Him writing the next event was a complete given.
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>>78004534
I like Blue Lips nigga, so I don't have problem with him returning.
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>>78004528
The Tumblr tears will be glorious.
Don't forget Peter vs. Miles, Clint vs. Kate, Wiccan vs. Hulkling...
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House of ideas, everybody.
Real talk, fuck Marvel.
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>>78004396

I thought and have been a few different ones, inducing Fundementalist Christian, like the kind nutbag who'd vote for Mike Huckabee. Those were genially terrible, hateful, and hypocritical assholes. The kind of people who teach abortion is murder, and genuinely pray for wars in the middle east to happen so Jesus can come back sooner. The kind of Christian who thinks prohibition was a great idea, and swears that Jesus turned the water into Grape Juice.

All the religions based on the Torah/Bible are based on superstition, and are a highly edit collection of oral tradtions, essentially a game of Telephone over generations. Anyone who takes it as the literal word of God, that every single word in it must be true, is a fucking moron, and the world would be a better place with out them.

So i traded my yarmulke for a cross and sweater vest, then realized how horrible the people around me were, and then got a fedora.
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We had a lot of success with Christmas 2.
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>>78004488
Sorry but your two pair of Dubs doesn't beat the trips. Gets work on poker rules.

Jubilee is jewish by virtue of the get and that awesome Jewbelee pun.
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>>78004499
>One of the very few characters who actually grew up and even left her initial group behind
>Relic
All those trash girls that copied her from the 90s onwards (Jubilee, Armor, Kamala, Kate Bishop) are less than relics then.
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>>78004423

I went back to see when Civil War was, and it's almost been 10 years. I was really surprised it's been that long but like you said, it's part of the culture now.

So the first Civil War was Nitro blowing up a school and people looking to keep tabs on superheroes and vigilantes. Public safety vs freedom to operate. What's in the news today? Immigration, Borders, Mass shootings.
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>>78004593
In other words, the circle is complete.

Sometimes I wish we stuck with the Pagan beliefs.
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>Marvel
You deserve it
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>>78004628
>drunk Tony killing black kids across America and many heroes join him
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>>78004626
Of course. What kind of person still gets wet over Kitty? C'mon.
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>>78004628
Standoff most likely
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>>78004626
I don't think you understand the word relic
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>>78004658

Oh shit it really is going to be about black people and cops. Minorities and white female superheroes vs the Iron Patriarchy.
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>>78004700
Marvel was never subtle, wasn't it?
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Meanwhile, at DC

>I need another flagon of mescaline, i can almost see the true shape of the Omniverse!
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>>78004289
Against all logic, Deadpool is currently the most popular hero in the MU, so they wouldn't get much mileage.

I wonder how hard their dicks got after Osborn, a member of Obama's administration,
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I hope Bendis doesn't use this to push all his waifus and husbandos whilst vilifying everyone else, he wouldn't do that right?
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>>78004668
>I only get wet for girls when they aare 13 years old
Don't worry. I know in what corner of the internet I am.
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>>78004745
...you just increased my cynicism
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>>78004745
Of course he wouldn't!
>Marvel is fucked when I become next string-puller, I'll whack everyone I don't like
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>>78003738
Bendis?
No. He's a Marvel guy. So much so they let him do whatever he wants.
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>>78003644
How will Bendis shoe-horn in the Guardians of the Galaxy into this?
You know he will
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>>78004717
Fox News wished he could have been president instead, he's perfect for them. He's tough on crime, wears the American flag, and is a socipathic affluent white guy
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>>78004806
Meme is that Johns is Bendis of DC.
Which is heresy, naturally.
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>>78004810
Kitty, Ben, Peter and Flash head back to Earth for a little R&R then get caught up in the middle of it all while there.

Meanwhile, there'll be a scene each issue of Drax, Groot, and Rocket sitting on their ship eating and getting their bantz on.
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>>78004793
Good. Glad that we understand each other.
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>>78004810
Cosmic cubes. I mean, they have been building those up in ANAD
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>>78004810
He can't.
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>>78003925
What are you talking about?

They know exactly what they're doing.

Civil War movie coming out so they're making another event called "Civil War". Retailers will eat it and its 50 tie ins up, Marvel won't give a shit whether readers actually buy most of that, and retailers will still rely on Marvel no matter how angry they are at them.

Marvel knows they're about to make some mad dosh.
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So are they making the comic because of the movie? Another attempt to get normies to buy comics
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Any bets that Miles will beat up Peter after the latter sides with the registration equivalent?
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>>78004848
>Flash

you seriously think Bendis knows he exists?
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>>78004028
Inhumans vs X Men ft Avengers and GOTG.

Everybody just wailing on the muties while Marvel pushes the Inhumans even more so casuals will want to buy it with the Inhumans movie coming.
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>>78003682
Copypasta!
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>>78004895
GOTG will take the X-Men side for sure.
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>>78003682
Bendis?
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>>78004892
He won't be in the script, but the artist will put him in the background of all the scenes.
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>>78004862
He can't? You're telling me that there are things Bendis can't do? If Bendis wants the GotG in Civil War, he'll get them
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>>78004862
>Bendis
>Can't
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Honestly don't care. Before we knew who the creative team was there was 99% certainty it would be shit. Now it's 100%.

The sad thing is this will get more attention than any genuinely good comics and outsell everything else, thereby further cementing Marvel MO of printing literal garbage and being rewarded for it
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>>78004960
And like always, there'll be a 10:1 ratio of people shitposting about Civil War II compared to people talking about whatever awesome story DC is putting out at the same time. Because god forbid we just ignore the things we dislike.
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>>78004943
Bendis?
Can't?
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>>78004810
Come on faggots. Bendis is trying to redeem himself with the Guardians. He listened and is trying to correct his mistakes, and one of those is stop making Earth based stories and so far he's doing it. Stop being so paranoid for once.
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>>78004994
>*blank stare*

Can't what?
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>>78003644
so....why do you all dislike Bendis??
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>>78005071
Broke up my OTP.
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If you buy Marvel comics, you're a faggot that needs to be euthanized.
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>>78003644
I kind of liked Same inisitally as Cap, the Zemo arc could have been better and I hate that they killed Nomad (is he still dead?) but it was solid enough.

I've only seen all the race stuff from the new series.
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>>78005085
Emma/Cyclops?
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>>78003644
could be worst, It could be Jason Aaron writing

hopefully the X-Men get to stay out of this nonsense as much as possible.
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>>78005071
I don't DISLIKE him because he's capable of making good comics. Generally, I haven't enjoyed his team books though. I enjoyed New Avengers, but I didn't enjoy his Avengers. I liked the beginning of All New X-Men, but that and Uncanny X-Men turned to shit. His GoTG isn't terrible, but it is thoroughly mediocre. And he has the problem of having most of his characters sound the same.

In terms of events, most of his have been pretty mediocre. Secret Invasion was probably his best and that one got wrecked by it's pacing. Siege was pretty good.

So it's more of after a decade of having him on the big titles, we know that we can expect something that will be a 5/6 out of 10, rather than something amazing.
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>>78005139
I see you have latent telepathic powers, anon.
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>>78005126
What if I buy Vision?
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>>78003682
Nice pasta, Brian.
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>>78005186
Confused. I forgot Vision existed.
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>>78004011
Pretty sure Tony will be the good guy because Bendis is writing two titles starting Tony and he is a predictable hack who loves to play favorites. Falcon will act OOC, probably stops being Cap after this, Steve sides with Tony over his best friend only because Bendis likes the Tony and Steve relationship and Steve is currently in a rocky spot with Sam.

Also prepare to have some c or z listers (like the superior foes) die for shock value (probably some of the superior foes) and Wanda do something horrible, or Scott Lang getting the shit beating out off him, for the GotG get involved and pick a side (they are team Iron Man), and for the major players to include Kitty Pryde, Luke Cage, Jessica Drew, Jessica Jones and whatever character Bendis likes.

In other words hope Bendis likes your favorite character.

The writing will be shit and he will expand a 5 issue story into a 12 issue event thanks to spread pages, copy and paste panel gags, while cramming bendis speak everywhere.

It will be marketed like crazy, the issues will have variants by popular artists, it will sell better than Hickman's Secret Wars and Bendis will be happy for another success.
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>>78003682
Did you know Bendis was the top of his class in the Navy Seals at gorrila warfare?
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>>78005186
Really the only Marvel comic worth buying, so you're okay.
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>>78005071
His output for the past few years has been mediocre. He's been writing teams a lot when teams are one of his biggest weaknessness as a writer. And some writers just stop writing good stuff after a while. He's still riding USM, Alias, and Daredevil, all of which ended or stopped being good years ago.
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>>78004090
>Secret Invasion 2

Starring the Chitauri!!!!

>>78004668
Old balding middle age fat dudes
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>>78005247
>not buying Totally Awesome Hulk
OUTRAGE! It's like you WANT the SJWs to win.
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>>78004979
Because it's not just /co/ anymore, a lot of redditfags lurk here. There's no such thing as bad marketing with Marvel, and shitposting is a new form of it. For instance, /co/ looks like it hates Bendis, but places like reddit love him while saying how other people hate him to try and change narrative

r/comicbooks/comments/3vozrk/what_is_your_unpopular_comic_book_related_opinion/?sort=top

I mean shit sometimes, I shill for Bendis just to see how mad people get here, while talking shit about him on reddit just to see how many downvotes I get there.
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Lets make a bingo for civil was 2
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Fuck Bendis
Fuck Marvel

He literally can't write ongoings, events or any of the characters in the story
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>>78005209

VIsion has King so just about every DKek is reading it for their new savior.

including me.
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>>78005302
Character who appears again will die.
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>>78005302
Inhumans trash talk about x-men
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>>78005326
Yep. I want him on Hal's book. Forever.
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>>78003920
Xmen sales fell under him
Ironman is falling quickly down to regular levels
Johns JL outsold his Avengers massively

He can't write
He can't sell
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>>78005297
Honestly, Bendis is a pretty good writer. All the vitriol he gets is pretty clearly manufactured since anyone that actually reads comics should, maybe not necessarily enjoy his work, but at least acknowledge how hugely influential he was to the form. Bendis is very much the Stan Lee of the modern age.
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>>78003883
>worst event in 616
While it's true Civil War was a terrible story, it also sold well when it first was out and inexplicably still sells well for them in collected form, more so than any other events.

That and the fact the Civil War movie is out next year is why they're doing it.

The biggest worry here is that Bendis' events are usually written worse than Millar's.
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What are the best things Bendis wrote? I like Alias but only to masturbate to what Purple Man does to Jessica.
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>>78004508
>actually really been enjoying a lot of the ANAD books.
Fuck you. You deserve this.
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>>78005382
Civil War is easily the best Marvel event of the last decade

The others are all unambious, tedious dreck
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>>78005377
>Bendis is very much the Stan Lee of the modern age

An overrated hack, a thief, a scumball, and a man who built his fame on the backs of talented people he fucked over? Thats a very mean thing to say about Bendis.
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>>78005409
It's not that CW has competition for that prestige title. Surely Axis is better. Or Fear Itself.
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>>78005302
>The reason they're fighting is umb
>Character nobody carea about dies but everyone treats it like a big deal
>Character switches sides
>Scenes of protestors holding signs
>Talking heads on TV complaining about Captain America
>Tony being a fascist
>Sam/Steve speechifying about FREEDOM
>Inhumans are important
>GotG show up
>Al Ewing's tie-ins are better than the actual event
>Government uses villains to hunt down the resistance
>SHIELD is fascist
>Lots of MCU references
>Scarlet Witch shows up and Bendis shits on her
>They never actually say what the law they're fighting over does and different tie-ins contradict each other
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>>78005409
Civil War is the best IDEA for a Marvel event in the last decade.

It was terribly written with most characters being OOC.
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>>78005365
XMen sales would also fall under your favorite writer. It's the way the industry works nowadays. Same for Iron Man. As long as Marvel makes money with his books more than with other books, they will consider him a seller and their opinion is the only one that matters at the end of the day because they decide what books to put out right?
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>>78003682
> He actually puts some effort in trying to change and advance these characters

Do tell us what X-Men and Guardians of the Galaxy books you were reading cuz character advancement through effort surly wasn't in any of those. He just writes characters however he feels like and calls it a day.
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>>78005377
I think his writing hasn't been good for years, but I actually like the guy. He posts up some good comic art stuff frequently.
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>>78005302
>Bendis Speak? Bendis Speak
>People Acting OOC
>Bendis ignores/forgets about continuity as convenient
>Shitty retcons
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>>78005422
I know, they're all bad but AXIS fails basic story structure, it's a mess

Fear Itself felt like a filler event, does anyone even remember it for Bucky's death?
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>>78005449
That's only good thing I'll say about Bendis. He shills for, probably, unknown artists.
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>>78005417
I mean, all that aside, Bendis and Stan Lee both have the same inability to remember the names he gave his own characters.
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>>78003644
Why do modern iron man suits look so shit? They look like Halloween costumes.
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>>78005422
>Surely Axis is better.
Eh, maybe.

>Or Fear Itself
Hell No. I'd rather read Civil War before reading that again.
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>>78004341
Four by my count, proof that Bendis is a meme.

>>78004328
Well he was offered Iron Man and he had to get convinced to write GotG and once Doctor Strange comes out if he is interested then Aaron will get kicked out for the prospect of people picking up a #1 Strange from Bendis.

It's true Gillen was never this pushed, not even Fraction was this marketed.
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>>78005459
Tbh, of all Fear Itself I only remember Cyclops prepping fuckload of plans to fight Juggs and Red Skull's daughter yelling about something.
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>>78005458
>Dialogue will be the same regardless of who's on the team

>>78005439
Not really, Johns boosted sales on the books he wrote and Batman has stayed strong
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>>78005365
>Xmen sales fell under him
All his X-books consistently sold around 40k and were always in the top 10-20 during their months.
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>>78005425
>>Al Ewing's tie-ins are better than the actual event
When Bendis is writing that's a pretty low bar
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>>78005409
>Civil War is easily the best Marvel event of the last decade
>The others are all unambious, tedious dreck

Yeah, it was hard for me to admit it since I remember thinking Civil War got shittier with each subsequent issue. But then when I compared it (sans tie-ins) to other big events like AvX or Secret Invasion or Fear Itself, Civil War looked like it had better writing by comparison.
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>>78005510
Because X-fags are fanatics and will buy whatever is thrown at them. If Marvel published X-book with Stickmen, people would buy it.
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>>78004462
I wonder when the nerds will realize that their hundreds of Iron Man #1s will be completely worthless.

At least the 90's comicbook nerds that I know are refraining from buying them because they know it's going to end up being shit in the long run.
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>>78005302
Miles reveals himself as Spider-Man.
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>>78005500
>"The worthy" marketing campaign
Completely irrelevant in the story, it was the event that taught to not buy the hype
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>>78005510
>All his X-books consistently sold around 40k

That's actually pretty low.
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>>78005509
So has Bendis. See: Guardains of the Galaxy or Iron Man.

>in before blah blah blah blah excuses blah blah blah blah

Try to paint it any way you want, Bendis still boosted the numbers of those books.
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>Hey! Lets ride on the hype of dk3

Marvel can't be helped. All we can hope for is that it's not as bad as the last. Which I doubt.
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>>78005510
>40k
Shit for the flagship xbook

It would be good for Cap or IM
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>>78005545
Nobody knows how many people actually bought them though, the 200,000 number is retailer orders, usually to get the rare variants (because there's usually at least some people that buy that stuff).
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>>78005550
>I fear nothing. I was right and I'd do it all again.
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>>78005297

Not even just /co/ though. Bad events will sell better than good books like Midnighter and Prez every time. They'll get more attention too.

This is how Marvel does things now. Relaunch, event, relaunch at the end of the event. ANAD will only last until the end of Civil War 2 because Marvel just wants to keep creating a false sense of strong sales.

DC On the other hand is too stupid to hype anything but Batman up and the best marketing they had for DCYou was for Fletcher's stuff because they gave MTV some exclusive art and interviews. And they are guilty of it too to some degree but DC relaunches keep numbering and the events now do not effect everything like they used to. The Batbooks were the worst offender of crossover derailment and that's not happening anymore. And Nightwing was the only one that was really effected in a significantly big way. Batgirl, Batman and Robin, and the other Batbooks weren't as uprooted from their day to day plots.

If you actually look at sales data outside of relaunch months or when events are running though DC and Marvel are generally the same with the exception of Marvel having Star Wars which is a separate beast from their capeshit.

Marvel's fans are just really loud about hating DC and like to pretend that Marvel is really doing amazingly better. They are but it's not as much as people pretend. If Disney hadn't given them Star Wars on a silver platter the sales wouldn't be as skewed as they are now. Marvel would be selling more but it wouldn't be a significant amount like it is now.

>>78005365

Johns JL always seems to do better than Avengers. It amazes me for a good number of reasons.
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>>78003782
I never thought I'd see the day that I'll see "Bendis" and "continuity" in a sentence. Twice.
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>>78005562
Movie hype for guardians, he only ever writes hot books

IM #2 sold 60k, average for a #2
Soon it'll be back in the 30k range
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>>78005556
What? You want 90s numbers now? The X-Men are a relic. In some years they will end like the Fantastic Four, forgotten.
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>>78005633
>What? You want 90s numbers now?
That's not even late 00's numbers.
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>>78005571
What does DK3 have to do with this
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>>78004372
Nope, Bendis is comfy at Marvel, DC wouldn't treat him as good.

It is more likely for Geoff Johns to leave DC and get hired by Marvel and that shit is also difficult for me to see since Geoff actually has a job in TV and unlike Bendis a job that goes beyond comic writer.

But if Geoff were to leave DC he still would have a lot of job offers, heck Bendis has said that Marvel has tried getting Geoff back in the past after he hit it big with DC and that if he could steal talent from DC that it would be Geoff Johns.

Bendis gets special treatment at Marvel, I doubt DC would take him after he shit talked about them and since he's a Quesada boy they probably want him even less. And even if he would get a good writing spot at DC he won't get the same superstar treatment he does on Marvel.
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>>78004418
Which is why he reblogs a bunch of DC stuff in his blog and admits to reading DC comics? Sure.

>>78004528
Lol I would like to see that.
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>>78003644
it's just to make Tony right this time unanimously without all the grey areas getting in the way
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>>78005696

Nah Geoff gets special treatment at DC just like Bendis does at Marvel.

Chances are they'll be running things one day.

I miss when DC and Marvel got along and we got constant small crossovers between the two...
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>>78005696
Johns get special treatment at DC and is CCO. He ain't leaving.
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>>78005596
Johns is loved, did great work on GL, Aquaman, events and his first Flash run

JL is actually good and delivers what people expect unlike Avengers books that either go nowhere or drag on
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>>78004716
Current DC does Cosmic and dimensional shenanigans better than current Marvel, I mean fuck even Venditti's mediocre GL run is miles ahead from funny guys and jews in space.
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>>78005510
>>78005556
>>78005574
The fuck? All New was still selling 60k after two years of his debut. Uncanny was on 58k as well. You faggots make up numbers like nothing.
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>>78004062
>not liking ultimate Spider-Man
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>>78004372
If they keep his Kitty Pryde exclusivity then Yes.

I bet that shit is written in the contract.
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>>78005696
>>78005732
The difference between Johns/Bendis is that Johns is actually a good cape writer, capable of reinvigorating characters

He would never work at Marvel due to the sterile creative environment and ridiculous editorial mandates
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>Marvel Heroes having another Civil War.

I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.
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>>78005765
I know, bad/average numbers for the flagship X-title
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>>78003644
>BENDIS WRITING CIVIL WAR 2
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>>78004810
I honestly can't wait to see how he will do it just to laugh, especially since years before Rich gave Tony the speech about Cosmic shit > Earth petty squabbles and it will just make Bendisguardians look more retarded.

>>78005008
Did you read his latest GotG it ended with what's her face capturing Peter and going to destroy Earth, lmao.
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>>78005793

Sterile creative environment? Is that why nearly everything has felt so empty and soulless lately?
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>>78005775
I retroactively can't read USM anymore because of Bendis' shenanigans. That smug piece of shit has made me fall out of love with that world, because it was created with his words. It's toxic to me now. And I regret buying the trades. Fuck him.
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>>78004892
He exists enough to get knocked out, so yes.

>>78004885
Whoever Miles os with you know it will be the winning side.
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>>78005826
>lately
Near 5 years

Doesn't affect Spiderman though, for better or worse
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>>78005820
She wasn't going to Earth yet, and previews shows this story will stay in Spartax for the whole run.
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>>78005765
>The fuck? All New was still selling 60k after two years of his debut.

It was dipping below 50k in 2015.
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>>78005749
>>78005732
Johns didn’t get hired because he was Didio's buddy's buddy and it was awhile until he became CCO and he struggled with WB for his position.

Yeah he gets perks but lets face it, Marvel wants him more than DC wants Bendis, he has future outside of comics and DC.
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