I have my reasons. We're going to live in a mansion.....and then we're going straight to hell.
>Chuck Austen's Uncanny X-Men - Day 4: 428 - 434 The Draco
>Art: #428 Sean Phillips, #429 - #433 Philip Tan, #434 Takeshi Miyazawa
Here it is friends. The centerpiece of Chuck Austen's run. Sean Phillips was a good choice for the opening epilogue, and I'm enjoying looking at Tan's art a lot more today than I did when I read this for the first time at age 16.
Otherwise, this arc is just.....man. It's the culmination of a lot of the threads Austen has been "building" since #410. So, it's more of the same, in the worst way possible, but cranked up to 11.
Brace yourselves. And please bump if you're reading. Or just bump to complain even if you're not reading. I don't care.
https://youtu.be/XDLVHLomaUw
storytime will commence momentarily.
Previous threads:
>Day 1: 410 - 416 - This was better than I remembered.
>>77878655
>Day 2: 417 - 422 - This was about as bad as I remembered.
>>77907478
>Day 3: 423 - 427 - This was worse than I remembered.
>>77930484
Destiny's journal:
>Day 5: 434 - 438
>Day 6: 439 - 443 The Editorially Mandated Morrison Retcon
428 - The Draco: Prologue
https://youtu.be/99lyU5N--f8
am I the only one who finds it supremely stupid that the little skull on her forehead is part of her?
https://youtu.be/i9AT3jjAP0Y
429 - The Draco: Part 1
https://youtu.be/9pZ5wTfnw1Y
Tan makes this readable.
>>77953727
I salute you, you sick fuck
>>77954318
I started following X-Men around this time, so this and New X-Men were the first runs I ever read "as they happened."
https://youtu.be/wSzyKO_kW_s
430 - The Draco: Part 2
https://youtu.be/CSvFpBOe8eY
>>77954377
Me too, along with X-Treme X-Men.
I loved New X-Men, really enjoyed X-Treme X-Men, and even liked Uncanny X-Men at points.
Guess I'm just easy to please.
>>77954730
I'm a fan of X-Treme, it's just so divorced from the rest of the x-continuity. I almost feel like X-Statix is more in-tune with the rest of the line than X-Treme.
>>77954688
>>77954702
>>77954713
very interesting characterization for a pre-reveal Xorn. I think the reveal was either the same month as this issue, or the next one.
>>77954784
I just thought it was normal, 2 books at Xavier's, mostly, and then 1 book as a sort of an adventure book.
I had no clue about satellite "books" back then.
>>77954862
My feelings are definitely colored by interviews with Claremont I've read, etc.
The 2 "core" books and an "adventure" team does kind of make sense though, especially since X-force was no longer "that" book.
But it's telling that NONE of the X-Treme cast makes an appearance during any of this. Storm, Bishop, etc are clearly off-fucking-limits to anyone not Chris.
431 - The Draco: Part 3
https://youtu.be/M11SvDtPBhA
>>77954862
Meant to put the " " on satellite, not sure how I screwed that up, lol.
>>77954933
I never read interviews back then(still don't, heh), but from what I've heard since then Claremont seemed to want to be far removed from the other books, is that true?
>>77955021
He was offered the choice of Uncanny X-men, and to play ball with Morrison, or a third "new" core title that was just his. He chose the "third core/new" title.
Also he had big plans for Beast, and Morrison swiped him. This is why Beast is in the very beginning of XX and then it's like "Oh shit secondary mutation bye bye Beast." So, yeah. He wanted to play by himself.
>>77955097
He strikes me as that kind of guy, not that it's an overly bad thing.
Would have been cool to see Claremont and Morrison working together, but hey, I still enjoyed what we got.
https://youtu.be/EiIH5PewAzs
https://youtu.be/Dq6YmSVAOG8
Uploads are failing consistently. I'm gonna take a dinner break and resume in 10/15min.
Thoughts on the story so far?
>>77955959
>Thoughts on the story so far?
Absolute madman
>>77955959
No comment
https://youtu.be/wQKKj_qeOBQ
https://youtu.be/PstrAfoMKlc
https://youtu.be/t-ENSnF8XnY
The worst part is, the whole 'poisoned communion' storyline wasn't called 'Weapons of Mass Destruction'.
I may condense this all into one storytime tomorrow. I'm not sure. There are 9 issues left.
Trial of Juggernaut (2 issues)
She Lies with Angels (5 issues)
Of Darkest Nights (2 issues)
go ahead and just do Trial tonight?
>>77956683
well played
>>77956725
>go ahead and just do Trial tonight?
Press on
>>77956834
Joining the splash pages right now. Forgot that She-Hulk was in this arc.
>>77956725
https://youtu.be/Gg9U9v3s61Q
>>77954308
that's sum weird perspective third panel.
>>77957171
>>77957181
>Juggy confirmed PC-bro
tell me this fight ain't cool
>>77957181
That only thing I remember from Chuck run.
>>77957302
and I had completely forgotten it.
>>77957181
This spawned so many in-book metajokes later on.
>>77957333
The Goyer controversy made me remember that scene and the horrible China video.
>>77957353
this is around where I stopped reading back in 04/05. Do you have any issue numbers on those?
https://youtu.be/fsLrnylZheE
Who's been around since day 1? Comments on the artists? The plot?
Austen isn't a bad technical writer. I like the way he builds up his cast of characters. There's no visible mary sue or waifu. Angel comes close, as he's the closest thing to a protagonist the Austen run has. Otherwise, everyone has had some decent development.
Austen's IDEAS on the other hand....hit or miss.
Tomorrow begins Larroca's tenure on Uncanny, as well as the end of the Morrison era and start of the Whedon era on the flagship. X-Treme ends and Claremont begins Excalibur and takes over Uncanny. Austen and Larocca move over to (New) X-Men. Whedon begins Astonishing.
But first, we've got some continuity house keeping to do. Tomorrow we wrap up Austen's run.
Also this is one of my favorite X-Men covers ever.
>>77957767
>no visible mary sue
I'd say Nurse Annie comes close.
Top 40, the month these last three issues came out.
>1 Ultimate Fantastic Four 1 $2.25 Marvel 173,397
>2 Marvel 1602 5 $3.50 Marvel 115,488
>3 New X-Men 150 $3.50 Marvel 110,563
>4 Ultimate Spider-Man 50 $2.99 Marvel 109,792
>5 Ultimates 12 $2.25 Marvel 104,546
>6 Ultimate X-Men 40 $2.25 Marvel 104,417
>7 Superman/Batman 4 $2.95 DC 102,699
>8 Ultimate Six 5 $2.25 Marvel 100,264
>9 Ultimate Spider-Man 51 $2.25 Marvel 96,966
>10 Superman/Batman 5 $2.95 DC 96,396
>11 Batman 622 $2.25 DC 91,876
>12 Amazing Spider-Man 502 (#61) $2.25 Marvel 90,461
>13 Uncanny X-Men 434 $2.25 Marvel 90,296
>14 Uncanny X-Men 435 $2.25 Marvel 89,744
>15 Uncanny X-Men 436 $2.25 Marvel 89,083
>16 Wolverine 9 $2.25 Marvel 74,640
>17 Supreme Power 5 $2.99 Marvel 70,303
>18 Teen Titans 6 $2.50 DC 69,238
>19 Spectacular Spider-Man 8 $2.25 Marvel 62,705
>20 X-Treme X-Men 35 $2.99 Marvel 61,015
>21 JLA 91 $2.25 DC 58,966
>22 X-Treme X-Men 36 $3.50 Marvel 58,497
>23 X-Treme X-Men 37 $3.50 Marvel 58,029
>24 Avengers 75 (Res) $2.25 Marvel 57,799
>25 X-Treme X-Men 38 $3.50 Marvel 57,790
>26 Avengers 76 (Res) $2.25 Marvel 57,487
>27 Daredevil 55 $2.99 Marvel 53,646
>28 Wanted 1 $2.99 Image 53,628
>29 Transformers Generation One Vol. 3 0 $2.95 Dreamwave 53,068
>30 G.I. Joe/Transformers 5 $2.95 Image 52,921
>31 Transformers/G.I. Joe 4 $2.95 Dreamwave 52,186
>32 Incredible Hulk 64 $2.25 Marvel 51,947
>33 Hulk Gray 4 $3.50 Marvel 51,533
>34 Fantastic Four 508 (#79) $2.25 Marvel 50,320
>35 G.I. Joe/Transformers 6 $2.95 Image 49,108
>36 Superman 200 $3.50 DC 47,334
>37 Outsiders 7 $2.50 DC 47,040
>38 Captain America 21 $2.99 Marvel 43,007
>39 JSA 55 $2.50 DC 42,998
>40 Nyx 3 $2.99 Marvel 40,040
>>77957767
See, he understands that a lot of X-Men is soap-opera relationship drama...but he keeps going into trashy reality show relationship drama.
>>77957960
Absolutely. I hate to say that this is the kind of thing the Comics Code might have actually helped....but I wonder if keeping relationships within the confines of "daytime tv appropriate" is what kept it from being kind of lurid and trashy, especially given the shallow way with which Austen plays it. He gives the characters big theatrical emotions, but does it in a way that makes them seem like horny teenagers.
>>77957767
I think what makes me angriest is just how insanely uneven the entire story is. It's not even from issue-to-issue ot page-to-page, like from fucking panel-to-panel it can go from something genuinely sweet to eye-rending soap opera melodrama.
I can't say I flat-out hate the run so far(though The Draco comes closest, that was nonsense on a grand scale) but I can't say I'm enjoying it, and it comes out as this misaimed puddle of poor execution.
I'm glad for the storytime though, I've heard tales of terror about the Austen run and it's fascinating to read though it. It's an interesting failure if nothing else.
>>77957937
>Nurse Annie
She's less of a Mary-Sue and more some kind of bizarre hanger-on. I'm not even sure why she's still in the story after she got her husbando, and if they want to make Carter important they need to give him some kind of actual characterization and something to do.
>>77953727
>opening epilogue
wow I'm smart
comic movies wow how novel
>>77960269
I don't think I'd be remiss in assuming this was a kind of shitty game.
>>77961177
The console version never even came out.
I played the GBA version, which wasn't terrible.
>>77955959
Not the worst of the stories I have seen you upload OP
>>77953727
Thanks for posting the archive links. I've been a day behind for each.
Started out really strong in the first thread. Day 2 wasn't too bad either, other than maybe Lobo. I liked the manga style art for Paige at least.
Day 3 was fucking painful. Jean's hair being colored green. Paige's shirt disappearing for a panel. That entire arc with the religious zealots. Bridezilla.
>>77955268
>
White Future Beast
Devolving Look
Is time traveling Bacteria/Drug
Kang
Ok, See. SEE
>>77957767
Thanks for uploading OP. The only parts I have enjoyed so far was the juggernaut/squidboy storyline, yandere polaris and any parts with husk. Everything else feels forced and very melodramatic. It IS very sexualised like I've heard before which is something I usually appreciate but it feels kinda out of place here. I'd also like to note that Austen attempts many times to engage in religious concepts which at first is compelling to a religious reader such as myself but his utter lack of knowledge of the religions and discussed and an obvious lack of understanding of the religious mindset has resulted in abysmal stories. Azazel storyline was alao entire pointless.
The art has been mostly terrible so far too.
>>77969065
Damn, sorry for the typos, damn phone.
>>77954098
why am I reading this again drunk
>>77969065
>>77969160
Agree with most all that. The religious stuff is really clumsy. Otherwise, I think Austen's Northstar characterization is pretty good.
>the art
The art isn't terrible as much as it's just bland (Phillips and Garney), or it's stylized enough to not really fit the tone of the book (Tan and Asamiya).
Oddly enough, the Larocca stuff coming up is the best fit. It perfect for the mid-tier soap opera silliness of the run. Pic related.
>>77967060
>>77969065
>wonky art
The schedule on this book is insane. It double shipped most months. It's easy to see why Garney was the only one that would do two arcs in a row. Tan's work really grew on me. This anon knows what's up >>77968673. Tan is somewhere on the Silvestri-Liefeld "Heavily inked, exagerated bodies" comic book art spectrum and I think Juggernaut, Havok and Polaris particularly look great under his pen.
>>77957280
Never been a fan of She-Hulk books, but she is always entertaining when she shows up in others.
>>77969827
She's great as a "feature" of the Marvel universe. This is pretty much exactly the right amount of She-hulk for me. She's doing wacky single female lawyer shit, and also driving trucks into Juggernaut. 'Nuff Said.
I liked austens run more than fraction, bendis or hopeless' xmen
