I've just watched Judge Dredd and it was pretty great. Is the comic worth to read? Do I have to start from the beggining or can I just read the better ones?
>>77747269
>I've just watched Judge Dredd
Then why did you post an image from a different movie?
You posted a pic of the shitty Dredd 3D abortion.
If you liked Dredd 3D stay away from the comics, you'll hate them.
They aren't boring piece of shit action movies.
>>77747281
Ignore this nigger
Comics are very good, but can be a bit dated and cheesy at first. But once you know the premise you can read just about any arc, they're pretty self contained
>>77747281
>>77747311
Ignore this nigger.
Start from the beginning and go from there.
Get the case files. But, again, they are nothing like that horse shit of a movie so don't go in expect it.
The comics have science fiction and satire themes not present in the movie.
>>77747311
The movie was a bit cheesy at times too. I don't think I would be bothered by that.
>>77747329
What's so bad about the movie? It was a fun action movie to spend some time on. The drug effects were pretty neat, too. Nothing spectacular, but it was a nice movie.
>The comics have science fiction and satire themes not present in the movie.
That actually sound pretty good.
>>77747378
>What's so bad about the movie?
It completely strips the concept of the Judge Dredd universe of anything it doesn't need to be turned into an action movie. The villain is a nobody who does nothing. MegaCity is just Los Angeles with Blocks photoshopped in and the whole city photoshopped into a desert. The costume work is laughable and the Judge's are wearing hockey pads. Judge Dredd breaks the law in the movie. Thy were so desperate to make a movie full of effects that they literally shoehorned in a plot reason for excessive slow motion. The entire movie takes place in a single setting. The overall movie has little to no variety in its content. The civilians in this science fiction future wear hoodies and t-shirts.
Another guy. What are some good arcs to start out with? Something good to give a guy some interest and give a nice starter into the entire series.
>>77747468
My personal suggestion would be "Block Mania" because its not too far into the comic while still being a big story.
>>77747481
Oh, and "The Judge Child".
>>77747481
>>77747497
Thanks man
>>77747431
So. What we got was an approximation of more modern Dredd books, stuff from the 90s, with the british silliness taken out, and the story stripped down to make it something that the average person who knows nothing about Dredd could enjoy. But still references some things and gets the attitude of the characters correct, and shows the general idea of basic concepts of the universe. And this was horrible? What, do you want another Stallone Dredd where they homage things no normie would know about but hamfist everything about the story and characters?
Besides there is some comic stories based on the movie setting and it just turns out as blacker Dredd and still shoes in some classic stuff like robots and such.
>>77747514
The first and second appearances of Judge Death are also amazingly good. Subsequent appearances of the Dark Judges are incredibly varied and usually disappointing, but that first moment when all four appear, priceless.
IF YOU ENJOY JUSTICE, LAW AND ORDER, JUDGE DREDD IS THE BEST COMIC FOR YOU.
>>77747534
>What, do you want another Stallone Dredd where they homage things no normie would know about but hamfist everything about the story and characters?
That movie would've been gold with some easy fucking fixing. #1, Dredd doesn't take off the helmet, #2 remove Schneider, #3 remove the love interest subplot.
The set work, the costume work and everything else were extremely superior to the bland action movie we got that some retarded fucks actually think could've lead to sequel with Judge Death, a character so fantasy like that it would make a movie with Dredd 3Ds tone look like a fucking joke.
And btw, the Stallone movie HARDLY hamfisted shit. There was no Judge Fish, no Walter the Wobot, no Judge Giant or Whitey.
>>77747431
>Judge Dredd breaks the law in the movie.
????
>>77747571
>tfw /rs/ and filestube don't exist anymore
>>77747561
Name of the arc?
>>77747603
I know anon, still hurts.
I plan on buying just the complete case files. Is that the correct way to collect and read Dredd?
>>77747598
Anderson lost her weapon which is an automatic failure for a recruit. Dredd lies and passes her anyway in the movie.
>>77747618
Yes.
>>77747618
Is the only way citizen.
>>77747590
It would have been gold if they removed everything but Hammersmith and added six other robots.
But seriously fixing that movie would have required alot more fixing. All they set out to do was give a vague setting of the universe and then have fun with it. Honestly, with a character that's fought Xenomorphs and Batman, along with having had some of the darkest stories in 2000ad history, having him kill people for an hour and a half was about the best thing you could have hoped for from a modern adaptation. There was no character assassination, no overt rewriting essential plot elements or setting pieces, beyond the budget limitations that restricted some of the setting.
And you forget that the whole idea of bringing the Dark Judges in was said in an interview two fucking years after the movie came out, and only when prompted by the interviewer. Nobody planned for a sequel, they knew the fact they got funded was a miracle itself.
And yeah. Rob Schneider existing, Dredd having that level of retarded overacting emotion, codpieces, even managing to fuck up Mean Machine....they got the setting design right, that's about it, bud.
>>77747609
Judge Death/Judge Death Lives
Batman v Dredd is pretty good too, if for nothing else but sweet, sweet Bisley paintings.
>>77747648
>Nobody planned for a sequel
Then why the fuck were they pushing so fucking hard for one when the goddamn movie flopped, asshole?
And the director said he always planned on the story leading to the Dark Judges eventually.
>There was no character assassination
DREDD BROKE THE LAW
>no overt rewriting essential plot elements
They made Dredd a lawbreaker, they changed Anderson's origins, they shoehorned slow motion into the plot.
>>77747619
>>77747685
It was his assessment, he can set whatever rules he wants.
>>77747732
>It was his assessment
The law is the law, criminal scum. And Dredd broke the law.
>>77747685
A facebook page asking people to buy the DVD constitutes PUSHING HARD?
Dude, Anderson's origin before was just...appearing, getting possessed and then getting frozen in plastic. They're not going to make a movie that BAM everything is perfectly set up with no lead up or explaination of 30 years of comics.
And you keep carrying on with this concept like making a judgement on a training call being anything beyond that. This CHARACTER ASSASSINATION just seems like butthurt about everything else being directed at a single line that had no impact, and that nobody else has ever mentioned noticing.
>>77747746
He didn't, though. I'm not sure why you think think this.
>>77747746
Dredd's broken the Law in service of protecting it a number of times, overthrowing Chief Judge Cal would've been difficult if he hadn't.
>>77747746
It's not the law, it's a judgement on a recruit that ultimately led to the judgement and death of the individual who took it, and which subsequent actions saved the adjucator's life.
>>77747752
>A facebook page asking people to buy the DVD constitutes PUSHING HARD?
YES. Them begging people to buy the dvd and bluray JUST so they could make a profit on the turd of a movie they made was all done with the promise of a sequel, which thankfully doesn't look like its going to fucking happen.
>>77747759
Dredd didn't write the book on how an assessment is done and the law says if a recruit loses their weapon they automatically fail.
HE. BROKE. THE. LAW. Deal with it.
>mfw someone tries to argue Stallone Dredd was any good at all
>mfw I have no face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T28kWBfvEA
Whatever you say cupcake. That movie is the moldy leftovers of Demolition Man, which is ten times the movie Stallone Dredd could ever hope to be.
>>77747812
Demolition Man is a better Judge Dredd movie than Dredd 3D is.
>>77747785
This >>77747767 though.
FFS that whole arc was defining as fuck, not to mention he had explicit orders to find and rescue the judge child and we know how that ended.
And you do realize most of that was fans pushing, right? And that enough people loved the movie hard enough that unlicensed high-end figures of him have been made by said people, right?
>>77747844
>And you do realize most of that was fans pushing, right? And that enough people loved the movie hard enough that unlicensed high-end figures of him have been made by said people, right?
You do realize its still a bland piece of shit action movie with little to no resemblance to the original IP, right?
>>77747648
>And you forget that the whole idea of bringing the Dark Judges in was said in an interview two fucking years after the movie came out, and only when prompted by the interviewer.
http://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/pete-travis-dredd-controversy/
>And could there be a place in the story for the don of dark judges himself, Judge Death? Find in Empire's September issue.
>>77747857
>bland action movie
Eat my load. Dredd was one of the best low-budget action movies in years, and one of the only Die-Hard knockoffs to actually use its environment in a comparable way.
And the soundtrack was 11/10.
>>77747893
Dredd 3D was a cheap knockoff of The Raid. Go eat a bag of dicks, faggot.
>>77747906
The Dredd screenplay was written years before The Raid was even a thing. Gareth Evans made The Raid as a glorified stunt reel to get the money for the sequel, there's a reason it barely has a screenplay.
>>77747857
>>77747906
>>77747822
>>77747927
And you have a copy of this screenplay that you say didn't change at all since it was first written years before the movie actually went into production?
The early Judge Dredd comics are goofy as fuck but it's really awesome that way. As long as you understand what you are getting into there's no reason you wouldn't like it. You just need to realize that they aren't super serious comics, they are satire in a very kitchen sink science fantasy setting about an ultra fascist cop. At times Dredd may come off as an action hero, but when he's set to deal with common civilians you quickly come to realize that he's a dick that takes his job way too seriously and is not really much of a hero either.
>>77747431
I personally feel they made a smart choice stripping Dredd back to the bare bones. There's only so much information you can fit in 90 minutes and with a limited budget.
>>77748006
All it shows is how small their imagination is and how shit they are at their jobs.
You could literally make fucking Star Wars these days with the fucking budget they had.
>>77747961
Well there's the fact that Dredd finished filming before The Raid even started, for one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dredd
>filming began on 12 November 2010 in Cape Town and took approximately 13 weeks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Raid:_Redemption
>Filming began in March 2011
Can we just make this a 2000ad thread in general?
Just picked up the Mean Machine compilation book this weekend, fucking good shit. Really wish Critchlowe would get more work, his paintings are amazing. Almost a shame he's gone back to a more cartoony style lately.
>>77748025
How would you have done it then?
>>77747961
Actually yes it was leaked online and was widely read by Dredd fans and by the producers of the Raid who openly admit it was influential on their story
>>77747281
I bet you're a blast at parties
>>77748110
Pic related
Did somebody say "LAW"?
>>77748216
>if we put blue contact lenses in Stallone and Armand Assante's eyes that totally makes them believable genetic twins
>>77747468
Mars Attacks Judge Dredd, of course
Doesn't that x shaped frame thingy block his view?
>>77748279
Like I said, costume design fucking sucked.
>>77748034
lol fucking told. You rock.
>>77748330
The costume design was awesome. Well atleast compared to that 80s movie
>>77748372
The 90s movie had a costume more closely based on the comics and not based on hockey pads.
>>77747281
He thinks Dredd was shitty.
>>77748385
So? Just because it looks good in comics doesn't mean it will look good on the big screen. Remember the old Superman movies?
>>77748372
>that 80's codpiece
They don't call him the Italian Stallion for nothing, I guess.
>>77748385
Bingo!
Hockey pads for a Dredd thread full house, everybody drink
>>77747746
It's Justice Department regulations, not law. It's not like Anderson losing her weapon is something you can cover up so Dredd as examiner clearly has the authority to pass her anyway.
>>77747822
You're clearly on a good hate Anon, but while I don't agree it was better as a Dredd movie Demolition Man was a damn good fit for 2000AD.
Stallone Dredd was a bit like Lynch Dune - there was a ton of beautiful illustrations of the source material but ultimately it failed as an adaptation.
>>77748227
>>77748227
Assante does have kind of a family resemblance to Stallone actually, not as twins of course, but certainly siblings.
Not that I'm defending that POS movie
>>77748372
Judge Dredd was certainly the most 80's film of 1995
>>77748279
Maybe it does, maybe there's a full Predator setup under there, maybe I like it anyway because even though 3D went with more practical designs it's a good nod to the comic helmet.
>>77748105
I would've made it an animated film.
>>77748620
That really would be the best option then you could accommodate the goofier elements of Dredd while still making an R rated action movie
>>77748688
Robocop did a pretty good job of being a cartoony live action film with an R rating. Besides, if anything what hurt Dredd 3D the most was lack of any real advertising, I barely heard anything about the film until the last month before it's release. It's hard to get people to see a movie they don't know about.
>>77748720
I think you've nailed it there the lack of promotion was the thing that hurt Dredd most at the box office. Seems like Lionsgate lost faith although looking at some of their other realses it's possible they are just shit at promotion.
Also Robocop is probably the best Dredd movie we will ever see but i think they would find it very hard to make that movie today.
I started to read the arc where all the droids start revolting and I'm rather enjoying it, it is a bit dark future, nice humour, dredd is a badass and allot of side characters are done pretty well
>>77748823
yup, all the things missing from dredd 3d
I got Mars Attacks Dredd today, I'm pretty fucking excited to read it, seems like fun.
I also ordered Dredd Vs Aliens vs Predator, it'll be a good time I'm sure
>>77749092
Nice. Some great comics there.
One of the things i like is how Dredd's crossovers stay in continuity
>>77748620
So you would have taken the 50% chance they had of a sequal down to 0 got it.When was the last time an adult rated animated film did good in America? You wouldn't even be able to get the anime crowd with it.
>>77748025
Budget sources? Because the classics look like cheesy shit as well and is just as stripped down.
>>77747431
Have you even read a Dredd story? The settings vary from nuclear waste land to one building to space. Hell couple months back we had an entire story dealing with Dredd as a block judge. And after that we got another with the Dead judges confined to a space ship. Megazine had a setting that looked like a modern day farm.
As for looks, again cits vary all the time. Last prog Dredd beat the shit out of a biker gang in tshirts and blue jeans.
I can't tell if troll or just think every fucking prog is America/Dark Judges/Robot War/etc.
I loved Urban's expression in Dredd. It was the living version of >:[
I've watched the movie two or three times, will watch it again.
>>77749709
He looks like someone put a Dredd helmet on a pug
>>77749274
>The settings vary from nuclear waste land to one building to space.
Have you ever watched a decent movie? Oh, wait. You're defending Dredd 3D so the answer is probably no.
A movie that takes place in a single setting needs, get this, INTERESTING FUCKING SHIT TO HAPPEN.
>>77750314
Good sir you are free to love/hate the movie all you want. I liked it, you didn't and thats fine.
Just don't come in here talking shit like you know wtf Dredd is. The only way you could have been more wrong is if you said Dredd also likes to hold a kumbiya session and smoke marshmallows with the citizens.
Also check the posted rec. lists for reads. They are quite good and recommend more than just shit hitting the fan events.
>>77750364
>Just don't come in here talking shit like you know wtf Dredd is.
Eat a fucking dick. I know what good Dredd is and Dredd 3D is a shit fucking movie and a horrible adaptation of the comic.
>Drokkers are still whining about "Dredd should've failed Anderson for losing his weapon a-bloo bloo bloo"
Then I guess he should've failed both Giants as well in the comics. Which he didn't. Or he should've sent Anderson or DeMarco to Titan for their crimes. Which he didn't. Or he should've brought the Judge Child back. Which he didn't.
Folks need to understand that the last thing Dredd wants on the streets is an army of robo-judges who know nothing but the book. Look at the Mechanismo fiasco. He values initiative and a certain degree of individual thought, and wants his cadets to have a keen sense of judgment of their own. Beyond his cynical exterior, he wants judges who wholeheartedly believe they're doing the right thing, who believe in justice, and believe that the Law is the best way to achieve that justice. And in my eyes, anyone who doesn't get that just hasn't read enough Judge Dredd.
>>77747906
>Dredd 3D was a cheap knockoff of The Raid
Dredd was in production prior to the raid.
Also, police stuck in a building with badguys is something that's been around since Die Hard.
>>77749274
Not that guy but I'd have thought something along the lines of DC's animation, a supplement to a live action film rather than a replacement.
Read all of the case files from the beginning. I read all 20 volumes of the comic in a month and a half and it was best time I ever had reading comics.
>>77748330
You do know that he has that thing in the comics, right?
It just covers less of the visor because comic dredd's face is twice as long and a normal face
>>77750434
Judge Anon, don't bother. The same people who bitch about that are the same asshole who think all paladins SHOULD be self-righteous assholes. When protocol gets in the way of doing good, toss it. Anderson proved that she could be a good Judge, thus Dredd said "Fuck protocol." and passed her.
By the way, was I alone in thinking the Chief Judge was kinda scouting out telepaths? She seemed very eager to have Anderson pass, enough to order her best officer to assess her. I think she was looking to bolster the ranks with metas.
>>77750301
>He looks like someone put a Dredd helmet on a pug
>hurr durr movie where dredd fucking takes off his helmet is better than the one where he didn't because it's more accurate to the comics
Holy fuck dat delusion.
I actually liked the fact that Dredd was basically just a day in the life of Judge Dredd.
>>77750314
>a modern day city's worth of people shut into a huge apartment block deal with a homicidal gang shooting up the place not giving a fuck about residents just to find a rookie and veteran pair of super cops.
I don't see why you hate the plot so much.
>>77751660
>Chief Judge: "So what happened here?"
>Dredd: "Drug bust. Suspects were... uncooperative."
I love that bit.
>>77747281
>You posted a pic of the shitty Dredd 3D abortion.
>>77752364
Ignore it. It's weak trolling. Let's talk about something more interesting.
So, if Dredd ever got a sequel, would Hershey be in it? If so, would it be just her, or will both she and Anderson be on an adventure with Dredd?
I got called "old school" by Chris Weston because I said: "CRAZY BARRY LITTLE MO" to him (that was his first Dredd story).
True story.
>>77753582
Hershey and Anderson in a Thelma and Louise style romp across the cursed earth.
>>77748442
I don't agree with that guy, but you've chosen a shitty example. Reeves' Superman costume is fucking awesome.
>>77754331
You. I like you.
