Why the fuck would they set Jessica Jones and Daredevil in the Marvel Quipimatic Universe? It serves no advantage story wise and only drags it down by reminding that all this cheesy shit is canon to the same universe.
>>77638929
Welcome to capeshit, dumbass. Where while Superman is holding a charity parade for the Metropolis orphanage, Batman is breaking the bones of a rapist who just killed a girls.
>>77638929
It's not like this shit doesn't happen in cape comics anyway.
Show me on the doll where the quip touched you, anon.
>>77638957
>who just killed a girls
Into the trash your opinion goes.
The Netflix series should be their own universe. You guys can have your Quipbots and Agent Social Justice and Agents of SHIT. We adults have our Netflix shows.
>>77638966
The point of the original Alias comic was to show that while all this campy capeshit stuff is happening, there's a bunch of fucked up shit happening behind the scenes.
What issue does being set in the MCU cause the show?
>>77638995
I'm reminded of Age of Quiptron and Agents of SHIT.
The movies are their own thing.
The Netflix shows are their own thing.
Agents of SHIELD, more than all the other things, is its own thing.
That's the only way to look at it, really.
>>77639003
Don't force that meme too hard, you might get a hernia.
That image triggers me.
>>77639015
But they are all apart the circle of life my son. Everything the quips touches are connected.
>>77639003
>>77639015
That was actually one of the things I found really cool. While Coulson and friends are having their campy adventures, all this fucked up shit is happening at the street level.
OOGA CHAKA OOGA OOGA OOGA CHAKA
>>77639015
>That's the only way to look at it, really.
Nope, they're all connected, and you can't stop it.
>>77639052
>liking SHIELD
Get off this board
>>77639062
I guess, over all, yeah they're all supposed to be connected, but it's like with comics...you can just read the ones you like. I don't read Spider-man and wonder what Rocket Raccoon is doing at that same moment.
>tfw no Stilt-Man
>>77639076
>>77639015
>>77639062
>>77639032
NO MAGIC ALLOWED
>>77638929
>>77638957
Not everyone lies in the olympus or the quipgods. Some people live in the dark bowels of the world that the Heross dominate.
I liked how it was in the comic Alias.
While the tone of the whole comic was dark and gritty when she trid to contact the avengers the Mansion was bathed in light and the flashback to her hero days were shiny and colorful.
>>77639015
this is plain wrong. it's inconsistent but connected. ever read a comic book, retard?
>>77639083
Its working up to that. We've already seen the suit and they just have to get that spot where the introduction will work.
>>77639113
I'm just saying, for simplicity's sake.
>>77639088
I'm not sure why they have to have Thor say every time he appears "It' not magic, it's the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces."
>>77639113
>this is plain wrong. it's inconsistent but connected. ever read a comic book, retard?
>SHIELD Agent: Sir, there's supposedly a blind superhuman terrorist killing police officers and blowing up buildings in NYC. Should we take action?
>Agent Coulson: Nah, fuck it, let NYPD handle it.
>>77639170
>There's a bullet proof nigger and some guy who rapes people with mind control. Maybe we should take a look at that?
>Naaaaaaah. We gotten go wrangle that bitch with butter knife fingers.
>>77638929
And I thought people joked about clawed woman.
>>77638929
FOREVER CANNON
>>77639266
>that "I mean business" look
Perfect.
>>77639266
>So I told that shield agent to make some special gloves for her instead of taking that shit out.
>And he did, the absolutely madman.
>>77639170
>blind superhuman
Nobody knows Daredevil is blind, they just assume he's a really good brawler
>>77639198
At this point in the series, Coulson is micromanaging the Inhuman problem. Assuming this takes place in January like everyone says, SHIELD is also still pretty divided, with the only ones actually working being Coulson, Daisy, and Black Simmons.
>>77639266
>>77639312
>>77639313
FFS, I don't even like Agents of SHIT, but the point of her character was to show how broken the Index was and how cruel SHIELD was.
>>77639329
Sure sounds like you watch a lot of AoS for someone that doesn't like it.
>>77639329
Is she... damaged?
>>77639313
She's got them on with screws! Just take it out! You just need a flathead screwdriver!
Daredevil and Jj don't take place in the mu though. There is no avengers tower
>>77639837
maybe it takes place after kektron
>>77639837
The writers just said they didn't want to include it because it would distract from the more grounded feel, but that it is supposed to be there.
>>77641166
lol even they're embarrassed to be associated with the MCU. Shit, I would be too.
>>77641166
Aka, "Even Agents of SHIELD has a bigger CGI budget than us."
>>77639837
>Incredible Hulk doesn't take place in the MCU, there's no Mark Ruffalo
>>77639088
>>77639156
>I'm not sure why they have to have Thor say every time he appears "It' not magic, it's the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces."
Except you are completely wrong. In both Movie, Asguardians have been referring to and saying they are using magic.
>>77638929
Agents of SHIELD has nothing to do with the MCU. Joss confirmed it's not canon and is set in its own universe. You might as well call Gotham canon to the MCU.
Because that's how it is in the comics.
>>77641333
They straight up said in the documentary that thees nothing magic about them at all and everything about them is tech based. Most people understood this from seeing the way they made their "magic" look, lokis flickering hologram "illusions" for example. But you and /co/ as a whole are so desperate to want to believe that there is something, anything, still mythical and magical about them. The problem is all of their "magic" is perfectly explained away as being completely understood under current science. MCU asgardians would look at a bics lighter and call it a magic flame.
>>77641391
Joss isn't the authority on what's canon. That was essentially him just being assblasted that one of the characters he killed off for no reason was allowed to come back by people with more say than him.
>>77641429
No, comics are retconned so often it's easier to assume nothing actually ever happens.
>>77641451
>documentary
Not documentary, directors commentary.
>>77638929
So they can make more money.
>>77641391
He said from a writing stand point that Coulson was dead in the movies. That's it.
Plus Joss is shit.
>>77639064
>Get off this board
No, you should get off. SHIELD has been praised since the back half of season 1. Go take your console wars bullshit back to /tv/
>>77638929
Oh look, it's street level purists whining they don't have their own playground only for themselves.
IN TWO THOUSAND FUCKING FIFTEEN!
Grow the fuck up.
>>77640169
Boy that comic tries too hard and is poorly paced and is otherwise shit.
>>77641620
>SHIELD has been praised since the back half of season 1.
Yes, by all 4 of its fans.
>>77641470
>implying the directors have literally any say in Marvel Studios movies
>>77642111
Far more than the fanbase headcanon.
>>77642140
The fanbase headcanon that "any show/movie I don't like isn't canon"?
>>77641391
>Joss confirmed it's not canon
No he didn't. He said Coulson wasn't going to appear in Age of Ultron because it would require a lot of explaining that would just confuse audiences. That's it. He never said it wasn't canon and only literal retards interpreted it that way.
To the point that Joss made a tweet saying as much that anyone that took that from what he said was an idiot.
>>77642168
>any show/movie I don't like isn't canon
That isn't even close to what I was saying. Read it again, and use your eyes this time.
>>77638929
I honestly rate Daredevil and Jessica Jones lower than I normally would only because they're in the same world with dumb shit like the Avengers and Agents of SHIELD.
>>77642045
That comic is poorly paced?
>>77639266
>>77638929
lol what... I had to go to the wiki for this shit. How are normal scalpel blades stuck on your fingers an effective solution? Just hold a knife in your hand
>>77642221
This tbqh. Every reference to the MCU flicks is like a slap in the face, just pushes me out of the story for a few seconds.
>>77639329
>SHIELD was
No, it was fucking stupid.
She should have been dealt with by the regular cops.
And then, what is worse, they made a big point about these new villains who were in it for two seconds.
>>77642221
Congratulations! As the anon with post number 77642221, you have won the annual 4chan /co/ raffle!
Your reward is that your opinion matters to everyone else!!!
It's goddamn embarrassing how readily you guys take the bait.
>>77642722
So ops picture isn't fucking stupid?
>>77642741
It's absolutely retarded but come on. You really think "Marvel Quipmatic Universe" wasn't an attempt at stirring up some impotent nerdrage?
>>77641620
>SHIELD has been praised since the back half of season 1
you mean by the same handful of people who rush to the show's defense whenever it gets bashed.
>>77638957
The MCU takes it to the extreme, though, with major threats beings turned into jokes and galactic dictators being taken out through dance offs (it is a heavily, heavily sanitized version of the comics). Some of the last few Marvel crossovers ended with Wasp dying, Doom murdering Stature, and Captain America being shot in the head. You can still imagine that something like Alias takes place in 616; meanwhile, Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy seem to take place in some separate universe in which everything is inherently lighter and softer.
Superman (or Batman, who probably does that even more given Bruce Wayne's rep as a philanthropist) having charity parades doesn't change the fact that their world has problems.
>>77642953
And now Void is in Cyclops.
And nobody will ever remember that.
>>77639102
>when she trid to contact the avengers the Mansion was bathed in light and the flashback to her hero days were shiny and colorful
This is a poor example. And the flashbacks to her hero days involved Purple Man rape (never mind that the first arc involved Ms. Marvel and Captain America).
This whole street level = gritty, superpowers = quips bullshit only exists in the minds of casuals because one's being handled by Netflix while the other's being handled by mainline Disney. Even Thor Ragnarok's probably going to end up quippy, entirely for the reason that I mentioned.
>>77638929
>I can't handle a shared universe
Autism or anxiety disorder?
>>77643651
Movie Marvel to TV Marvel are a poorly integrated shared universe, that even Whedon and Feige are antagonistic towards.
>>77638980
People like you who never have read a comic book in their lives need to fuck off back to /tv/.
>>77641620
No you should go back to /tv/ if you want to be part of the fucking SHIELD defense force and pretend that any issue levied with it is consolewars bullshit.
You're a massive casual if you can enjoy that watered down shit that is shield. It's like enjoying Coors Light over an actual Beer.
>>77643826
>Only casuals enjoy things
this is what /v/ actually believes.
>>77643837
Obviously, you're not even mature enough for that
>>77639329
>and how cruel SHIELD was
that's so fucked up logic, they could easily have removed those razors, it was so badly written
I can't believe people still believe this character wasn't meant as a joke.
>>77639170
no one knows Daredevil is blind. they think he's just some guy in a costume beating up criminals. Luke and Kilgrave seem to be keeping their powers pretty quiet.
>genocidal dictators and rapists exist in RL, therefore comedians and kids show shouldn't exist
>>77645084
Cal's whole team were a bunch of D-grade rejects. If anything, it highlights just how BAD the old SHIELD was at identifying gifted people. The new SHIELD might be better, but they have nowhere near their former resources.
>>77642953
>he doesn't like the dance off
>he likes sucking dick
There's two things you and me don't have in common
>>77645486
Eh what? What are you on about?
This woman surgically attached blades to her fingers to kill someone. She isn't superpowered, tech genius or a skilled assassin. Just some crazy bitch.
She should have been dealt with by the police. Not SHIELD. She was a ridiculous character.
>>77638929
So did she seriously just screw those things onto her fingers? Like there's a screw going into the bone, or what? Sounds unnecessarily painful for something that could be accomplished just as well by holding a knife.
>>77645576
>Eh what? What are you on about?
Not that guy but I think he was responding to OP.
>>77645544
>it highlights just how BAD the old SHIELD was at identifying gifted people
How the hell can you defend this shit.
>>77645084
It was ridiculous. Too ridiculous.
>>77638929
>Marvel Quipimatic Universe
Cuuuuuuute :^)
>>77645587
But how would we know she's damaged?
>>77645576
The original post seemed to imply light-hearted faire couldn't exist in the same universe as the grim and gritty stories.
I never argued against what you just said.
>>77640169
hahah, everyone who disagrees with me is dumb and loud like a seal! i'm so smart
>>77645672
>not writing damaged across your forehead like a true psychopath
>>77645738
Fair one mate. Stories on different levels is fine e.g. grim/gritty.
Agents of Shield is just awful and this encapsulates what is wrong with it. People on this board sometimes love to keep defending it.
>>77640169
There's a legitimate point buried somewhere in this comic about angry seals. I can almost see it...
>>77645854
I like AoS, but I won't deny it has some really awful moments.
>>77645764
Psycho killer, even.
>>77645613
But it's true. SHIELD was finding people like Edie Scalpel-hands and completely missed the entire Inhuman population They just weren't good at finding genuinely powered people.
>>77645919
quesque c'est
>>77645911
Oh don't get me wrong, I enjoy it but critically it is fucking awful.
It has turned Phil Coulson from the quiet bad ass of the movies to bland shoutey man who can't act. All these annoying characters and stuff.
I really wish the show had been more like Item 47.
>>77645989
You really don't have an argument and I don't really think you know what you are saying. Yes Shield was bad at finding people. But scalpel hands is someone who could have easily been dealt with by the police... she is a normal woman... with knife hands.
No superpowers, no super secret government training, just knives.
Them not being good at finding powered people does not explain wh they decided to take on the dangerous task of locking up her and putting metal caps over her knives instead of her being taken into prison or having the knives removed.
It was lame. Fucking lame. Stop defending it. Seriously.
>>77645084
Why would you introduce a joke character early on in your show that you're trying to establish as a serious contender with shit like Arrow?
>>77639060
I want them to blow all their budget having Rocket crash the Milano on a Netflix villain, shout YOLO, and take off.
>>77638929
Because that's how comics work, so they think that's how movies/television should/can work
>>77646093
>as a serious contender with shit like Arrow
>Arrow
>on the same level as Agents of SHIELD
>not unwatchable garbage
>>77647873
Agents of SHIELD is unwatchable garbage as well so, yeah, sure
>>77647873
Yea, they're both absolutely terrible, but Arrow gets fans because "muh serious capes".
I always liked how pre-New 52 the theology of the DC universe was just super fucked up and weird because of shit like Hellblazer, Sandman, and Lucifer.
>>77645556
>doesn't like sucking dick
Then get Disney's out of your mouth.
I bet you liked Quiptron and the Mandarin, as well.
>>77638929
Somewhere in the world African militants are raping and killing a village of innocent people. Elsewhere Kim Kardashian is complaining about her purse not matching her outfit. Stupid shit happens and so does fuck up shit.
>>77648956
>Hellblazer, Sandman, and Lucifer
None of which existed in the DCU, they all took place in the separate Vertigo universe.
>>77649311
>innocent people
>in Africa
:^)
>>77649337
why did daniel show up in jla back in the ninties then?
>>77649311
>Somewhere in the world African militants are raping and killing a village of innocent people
The movie universe is more comparable to a world in which Idi Amin, Hitler, or Saddam Hussein was defeated by some dude challenging them to a dance off, or in which Osama Bin Laden turned out to be bumbling actor. The problem with the movies isn't that there's humor; Daredevil had that with shit like avocado's at law (wonder how Fisk would have been taken out if his world worked on Marvel movie logic). The problem is that the humor is there all the time, regardless of the scene, and that the logic of the world bends to accommodate it.
>>77638980
Did you just claim that AoS is a sjw pandering show while Jessica Jones is not?
The fuck kinda bait are you trying to use anon?
>>77649480
Because they needed a sales boost
>>77650038
No they claimed Agent Carter is.
Still equally stupid since none of Marvel's shows are sjw pandering.
There's a difference between showing equality/diversity occasionally and pandering to sjws.
>>77650038
nah, reread, he was clearly talking about Peggy Carter. And let's be real here, if any of the Marvel shows are SJW it's Peggy "uppercutting those cheavinist strawmen so hard she shatters the glass ceiling" Carter.
>>77650127
Ah, yeah, I didn't watch Carter, it was Gotham levels of bad so I dropped it after episode 1, I just the word "Agent" and just stopped reading, assuming that I knew what said anon was talking about. Reguardless, anon is dumb as a bag of nails.
>>77650222
> Not liking Agent Carter
Bitch got no taste
>>77642323
she can't be disarmed
