can we collect some western comicbooks/cartoons that were clearly inspired by japanese franchises/genres?
Magical Girls:
>Zodiac Star Force
>Power Up
>SheZow
>Steven Universe (with a bit of DBZ)
Pokemon:
>Capture Creatures
>Gamma (with a bit of Power Rangers)
Sentai/Kaiju/Tokusatsu:
>Kaijumax
>Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go
how come Sailor Moon knockoffs are so popular these days, but there aint any Dragonball ones?
any more examples?
>>77616520
Because an American version of Dragon Ball is just weird.
You forgot Star vs the forces of evil.
>>77616520
Not sure if I would consider SheZow to be of Magical Girl influence as it wears it Captain Marvel/Batman '66 influences on its sleeve
As for others,
Magical Girls:
>W.I.T.C.H.
>Winx Club
Pokemon:
>Chaotic (also a dash of YuGiOh)
>>77616520
>power up
kill it with fire
>>77616520
Revolutionary Girl Utena:
>All of themI don't know how, but it just seems to be. Is it really that popular with "Tumblr Writers"?Plz say it isn't so
![2392383-luther_strode_tpb_cover_color_by_tradd_d4mjjpf[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1UDywQF.jpg "2392383-luther_strode_tpb_cover_color_by_tradd_d4mjjpf[1].jpg")
Hokuto no Ken
>>77617631
yeah its about female empowerment, girls in boy clothes and lesbians, dumbass
tumblr loves that shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFDslPFoYCQ
>>77616520
Why are there no western mecha shows that aren't outright parodies of the genre? Yeah, yeah, MEGAS XLR was fun but just once I'd like to see a show from America about giant robots that doesn't make fun of itself every five seconds.
>>77618190
Sym-Bionic Titan?
>>77616520
>how come Sailor Moon knockoffs are so popular these days, but there aint any Dragonball ones?
Because the only thing people know about Dragonball is that there were episodes where a guy spends 22 minutes yelling for a power-up with literally nothing else happening and they don't want to emulate that on purpose.
>>77618254
Bendis would be perfect for that.
>>77616520
>Sailor Moon knockoffs
I always loved the magical girls shows, if I would do an animated show about this trope in near future I would say my show will be aired onFreeform.
>>77618190
Battletech got a cartoon.
>>77618190
The Big Guy and Rustyinb4 baneposters
>>77618925
>MFW he refuses my Batchall
>>77618254
Dragonball is still extremely popular, in fact, it's been kinda having a resurgence due to the new movies.
The recent movie got a ton of money off a limited american screening, the game sold over a million and there's even a new anime out now.
>>77616520
What a great picture to start a thread with
>>77618190
Exo squad. All you have to do is look buddy
>>77619209
DVD release when?
>>77617102
>Magical Girls:
>W.I.T.C.H.
>Winx Club
You forgot Angel's Friends on it.
>>77616520
"Sailor Moon knock offs" are an entire genre now.
You got Precure, Tokyo Mew Mew, Madoka and all that.
That's what's been imported to the west with Winx, Witch, Lolirock, Miraculous Ladybug, Angel's Friends, Star vs the Forces of Evil etc.
>>77621829
>madoka
>>77622286
>but muh trope subversion
>>77618190
Does this and Pacific Rim count?
>>77621829
>Sailor Moon "knock offs"
Bitch, magical girl has always been it's own genere before sailor moon.
>>77623816
>always been it's own genre
magical girls were just an attempt to create a super sentai formula for females
>>77624295
CCS and later precure were more influencial than Sailor moon.
>>77616520
Exchange student zero
>>77618254
Nothing about DBZ was particularly unique.
>>77624295
Nah, a lot of the early ones were attempts at shows that could have a universal popularity.
Look at Cutie Honey. She was a girl, her main power was to change her outfits. But she was always getting into really violent and risque situations and showing off a lotta skin.
Girls liked the fashion angle and boys liked tits and violence.
>>77625616
But Precure was very inspired by DBZ and Sailor Moon. It exists solely because of Sailor Moon. Sailor Moon proved how successful a magical girls show could be for Toei and they've had a franchise every year ever since. Sailor Moon, than Doremi, and currently Precure. Precure was still influential in its own right but it's deep in Sailor Moon influences even today.
One Piece and Naruto are the actual DBZ knockoffs :^)
>>77625884
It created a lot of the modern shonen tropes/ adapted a bunch of shit from JRPGs and put them into manga
>>77624295
No they weren't, pic related predates Rider/Sentai.
>>77616893
How? It just haves a little bit of magical girl on the concept, but the rest is full western cartoonish plots and well, it's not as anime as the rest of the examples
>>77629830
But, Interestingly enough, it doesn't predate Ultraman. They came out in the exact same month of the exact same year (July of 1966)
>>77616520
Avatar The last Airbender is one of the best examples of how great can a western show heavily inspired by japanese genres
Not Korra though, Korra fucking sucked
Is there some reason Avatar the Last Airbender hasn't been mentioned yet. It struck me as resembling a lot of shonen anime.
>>77631560
>>77631590
HIVE FUCKING MIND
>>77616520
Is it possible to make a show themed around something asian without some faggots from /a/ claiming you're inspired by or based on animes? Is it possible to do a western animated show based on, say, The Water Margin or Romance of the Three Kingdoms without someone saying its a western attempt at Anime?
>>77632166
Maybe Kubo and the Two Strings from Laika will turn out like that.
>>77632404
Yeah. I will say I like the idea of eastern aesthetics and stories told using western animation, but I hate the idea of stuff becoming 'more anime' in a sense.
Are there any western series based on YGO?
>>77632166
>animes
>>77631590
No individual fight lasts an entire season, so it's nothing like shounen.
Daily Reminder that Frank Miller is a huge weeaboo.
>>77636757
come on guys
>>77632166
No. If you're at the point of being a weeb, like with all other fandoms, you begin to view things like common features of stories found across cultures entirely within the lens of your chosen fandom.
>>77616520
>how come Sailor Moon knockoffs are so popular these days, but there aint any Dragonball ones?
> shitty writing with unfunny humor and aimless plots
> ridiculous asspulls to explain bullshit displays of power
> plot-armored cast of characters that gets routinely killed and resuscitated
> thrives exclusively on nostalgiaCapes man
>>77616717
>Goku actually gets fat
kek
>>77623816
And prior to Sailor Moon they weren't based around sentai fights and villain arcs.
>how come Sailor Moon knockoffs are so popular these days, but there aint any Dragonball ones?
Because DBZ is more or less a one note show and Sailor Moon is a better series in ways that naturally inspires the kind of people who enter the animation industry to create things in its vein.
I mean think about it like this. If you loved DBZ and wanted to create something like it, how would you do it? What would really be the point? You'd hardly be able to make something that out DBZs DBZ in terms of action, and you'd probably outsource the animation to Korea anyway.
Sailor Moon, on the other hand, is based around emotional conflict and character interaction and has god tier direction. Aspiring directors are naturally going to want to imagine themselves crafting variations on what it focuses on, but tackling the themes, ideas and audio/visual techniques that they wish to explore instead. DBZ doesn't invite this kind of thing in anywhere near the same way.
>Ojamajo Doremi
It's seriously cute slice of life show and it has some deep moments like SU.
>>77631560
I throught Teen Titans was the first show heavily inspired by japanese genres.
>>77616520
>>Zodiac Star Force
I am so disappointed in this.
It started off so well too imo.
Because the cartoon and comic artists coming into the industry today grew up on Sailor Moon, Pretty Cure and the like and incorporated it into their style.
Also some are more lazy than others obviously.
>>77623760
>A literal adaptation of a manga.
Think before you post faggot.
>>77616520
>but there aint any Dragonball ones
Isn't Ian, the co-creator of SU, leaving SU to start his DBZ-inspired show?
>>77623760
I really enjoyed Edge of Tomorrow
>>77638223
This is pretty accurate.
One of the reasons why the magical girl genre's one of my favorites is that it's easy to fiddle around with; unless you pack it heavily with cliches, it'll be good background noise, at least.
That goes for cartoons and comics inspired by it, too.
>>77639392
It got some DBZ aspects but it is more an ode to 80's aesthetics and video games of that time.
The protagonist gives a double dragon vibe with that sleeveless jacket.
>>77623816
>magical girl has always been it's own genere before sailor moon.
This.
>>77625616
>CCS and later precure were more influencial than Sailor moon.
Goddamn, CCS perfected the outfit game.
>>77631560
>>77631590
I really like what they did with AtLA. I can't comment on Korra's story as a whole since I only saw S1 (the romantic shit was atrocious), but Korra looked good.
I wish there'd be a series with Korra's aesthetics and a better story.
Miller and Claremont's Wolverine miniseries partially came from their love of Lone Wolf and Cub.
>>77638223
I think you're not thinking that creatively with DBZ and is a bit biased with the mahou shoujo genre.
I like magical girls, but you can really create something from DBZ too.
DB/DBZ is all about martial arts fighting, MC doing a righteous quest to save a shit ton of people, and power levels. WIth those three things alone you can create something already.
Are ther any western series similar to Serial Experiments Lain?
>>77616520
>Power Up
>Inspired
By completely disregarding everything having to do with the genre in question other than the superficial aesthetics?
>>77640266
this!
DBZ has
>martial arts
>power levels/ups
>fusions
>different species/races band together
>characters having relationships -> spawing a new generation of characters
>the villain-formula they used for Frieza, Cell and Buu
>>77639391
It is a book adaptation, not a manga.
there should be a mahou shoujo mecha something.
>>77640720
nope.
>>77641196
It's not impossible to create a shounen inspired series that's actually creative. It's just that this style of mahou shoujo invites more imaginative, high level scenarios, artistic techniques and developments.
You can have as many fusions/power ups and convoluted plot points as you want, but when most things boil down to who can hit the other dude harder you have a relatively limited pallet. It can still be entertaining of course, but the kinds of people who are motivated enough to actually direct animated series are likely to look up to things that can do more.
Sailor Moon is the kind of thing where you can see why someone watching it would grow up to go "I want to choose this career to make something like this". The number of westerners who grew up with DB who specifically have the drive, means and talent to replicate it is going to be very small in comparison.
>>77640266
In anything, there's already something that's "Dragonball-like". It's called Avatar.
>>77644791
Look up the manga "Magical Ensign Blaster Mari".
She's not just a mecha magical girl. She's a Zeek too.
>>77646945
Well damn, anything slightly surreal in general besides The Maxx?
>>77623816
Sailor Moon changed it in a totally different direction. Enough shows "copied" it that it created a new dominant subtype.
>>77626014
Cutie Honey influenced Sailor Moon but at the time wasn't part of the Magical Girl genre.
>>77638093
you know fuck all really dont you
>>77651059
yes it was, dont make shit up
