I was thinking recently about how much wider could avatar universe be. Say, more series, more comics, actual books and real games. Talking about next series, I could only think of getting back to Kioshi, she deserves a whole series in my opinion, but not many would like it.
And then I realized. If the avatar next to Korra lived in informational era, it'd be boring as fuck. So let's just skip him! He's a big pussy, coward and faggot, and thanks to him the world turns into a post-apocalyptic wasteland, spirits eat people, people live in small groups and try to survive as long as they can. And here comes the avatar, next to the one next to Korra, reunites people and builds a whole new world out of the scraps. What do you think about such new 4-book series /co/?
>>77478151
Why not just write an original story ????
A post-apocalyptic Avatar universe? A Fire Avatar would be kind of interesting in that context.
>>77478151
>He's a big pussy, coward and faggot, and thanks to him the world turns into a post-apocalyptic wasteland
So he's Korra 2: Elemental Boogaloo?
>>77478183
It still may be an original story, just a post-apocalyptic setting.
>>77478183
Yep, and it really fits the order.
>>77478231
While Korra does some serious porn with the world, it's not that completely fucked up in the end. And say, Korra is active asshole trying to do anything, the next avatar is a passive asshole just watching the world burn.
When you say post-apo avatar, the only thing I can think of is that :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAqLie4EgUc
>>77478183
>Why not just write an original story ????
Because then it would have to stand on it's own merit without the benefit of a built in audience.
Are there any news from bryke on next series?
>>77478508
Mike is writing the Korra comics with Bryan consulting. But beyond that they have both stated they're taking a break from the animation aspect of the Avatar universe for awhile. They have their own separate projects now as well.
>>77478151
basically Fallout with benders
>>77478576
Hope they will continue working on avatar eventually, such a great setting is dying worthless.
>>77478721
There are many post-apocalyptic games and books it's not just fallout.
I kind of want a Hunger Games Avatar instead.
like the non-benders find a way to ensalve all the benders and they live in an awesome futuristic city and all the benders are branded and put into districs and have them fight in spirit worlds/arenas for a chance to have their bending "cured" and a chance to live a normal life.
>>77478791
Le Korra book 1.
>>77478750
I'd rather let it die than have Bryke make more of it desu.
Now if Nick got someone else to continue the setting that could be interesting.
>>77478151
I see things like op and the comments and always remeber that losers on /co/ manage to be worst and more clichê than fucking Bryke, and this is hard.
>>77478915
You're a gay hipster right?
The avatar after Korra wouldn't be information era, they would be 50's-2000's era. It would be a cool time for a show.
Also I've been thinking how bender societies would adapt to urban activities. Waterbenders would be really into graffiti since they just have to carry a bucket. Firebenders would breakdance using fire to add flare and spin and stuff. Earthbenders would skate, creating ramps beneath their feet and Airbenders would be sick at parkouring.
I'd watch that show.
>>77478721
I would watch the shit out if this
>>77478151
I miss the Avatar Chen threads. I kind of like this idea, but it'd be a bit of a waste to have the entire world get nuked. Why not just have the Avatar be banished to a desolate spirit world since they just get reincarnated upon death? Functionally it could be the same but at the same time the real world can be 2099-style cyberpunk when he/she returns.
>it's a /co/ makes an Avatar AU thread
And you didn't even fucking try this time. You're just sloppily stacking Fallout ontop of Avatar, probably because of the Fallout 4 hype.
Do you have even an ounce of self-awareness?
>>77478151
>He's a big pussy, coward and faggot
I would get behind your idea except for this part.
Change it instead to being that the Avatar after Korra was a badass warrior that tried to fix all the problems that Korra's constant idiocy caused. But the problems were so big and spiraled out of control so badly during her later years, that he really wasn't able to do much.
Bonus points: he fucking knew that he was never going to be able to fix it in his lifetime so he left behind records of his activities for the next Avatar. Messages, coordinates to supply caches, tips on how to defeat certain spirits. He knew that there would be nobody around to train the next Avatar in line, so he's trying to do it himself post-mortem.
Make the next Avatar an orphan
And from there on that's all I have
>>77478151
"Lets just make EVERYTHING FALLOUT!"
Meh.
![winx___daphne_by_squirrel_tail-d78qztg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Vfz8KDm.jpg "winx___daphne_by_squirrel_tail-d78qztg[1].jpg")
>>77479036
> they would be 50's-2000's era. It would be a cool time for a show.
Aka Winx or Witch, dunno what's worse.
Hey guys, how about a role game based on avatar setting but in post-apocalyptic world? Like Fallout Equestria.
>>77479200
we need this as a mod for F4
>>77479546
From what I hear, F4's engine is so fucked that mods of that scale are all but impossible.
We'll be lucky to get anything more than the tweaks people are working on, let alone something that lets you firebend.
>>77479586
> F4's engine is so fucked
Three years from Skyrim release. And basically, for these 3 years, all they did was taking Skyrim engine, removing swords and making guns. They didn't even work at graphics that much. How the fuck could it happen?
>>77478947
Nope, jus realist. Most of /co/ only knows how to complain and whiny like manchidren, not on how to build an actual story. Like fucking Bryke.
I have seem better ideas on other threads, here we have things like "apocalipse for no reason at all!!!!" and "annd and them the benders got enslaved and put on Hunger Games for reasons!" cheap shit, that would be hated by most people on this board if it was done.
Do you want a good idea? Ok, explore the years of the war. Explore the migration from Water Tribe of the North to the South, have a viking or something as your main character. Explore the afterwar, for example, we know that some random war lord used the combustion woman as a weapon against opposite forces, but who they were? who he served? Writte a story of the avatar next to Wan, and the world where people are suddenly alone without Turtle-cities, and every single faction is on war.
Just some ideas, that are way better than the generic "post apocalipse". Hell, /tg/ has a quest much more interesting than this, about a scholar firebender trying to run from the war on the Earth Kingdom.
>>77479200>>77478151
Or make the world a better place becaue Korra in the end made right decisions :^)
Which is what the creators want.
You are just making a revege fantasy against a fictional character otherwise. This is pretty patethic.
>>77482211
> apocalipse for no reason at all!!!!
You can always think up at least one. Who even needs reasons? First goes the setting, and then everything else based on it.
Everything you write is actually based on already created lore. It's boring, there are comics for that. You have to expand the lore to keep the series interesting. And yes, sometimes you have to think of reasons which caused the things in your story to happen.
e.g. we don't know almost anything about the hundred year war in ATLA, but we have to deal with the aftermath. Bryke don't show the war itself, and they don't need to.
>>77482482
Aang was constantly making right decisions. Where did it lead him? He died, and the world got fucked up once again. Amon and the equalists, the spirits, Zaheer, Kuvira. Not even mentioning things like total criminal nature of the Republic City.
Imagine what's gonna happen when Korra dies. Someone's gonna have that spirit world power fully used, and it literally leads to more political conflicts, and potentially more deadly wars.
>>77482583
>Who even needs reasons? First goes the setting, and then everything else based on it.
And thats why I say that you fuckers have Bryke tier skill.
>>77479283
this tbqh
>>77482697
>Aang was constantly making right decisions. Where did it lead him?
He stoped the genocide of the Earth Kingdom and Water Tribe, and build the foundation from the air nomad culture?
>>77482714
Okay, let's say, first you imagine a story behind your characters, then you make up the setting. Isn't this exactly what Bryke did? Typical high-school girl in book 1 with her teenage problems, and then they just put her into a world of benders, year 1930? This fucking sucks, not even because the main character is a stupid teen bitch.
Oh gawd, who am I talking to, you don't even argument your position but keep criticizing.
>>77478151
>tfw you will never play a Avatar Assassin's Creed game where you play as Korra raised by the Red Lotus assassinating corrupt and self serving leaders
sux
>>77482852
And then he died, and shit started happening again.
>>77482868
>Typical high-school girl in book 1 with her teenage problems, and then they just put her into a world of benders, year 1930? This fucking sucks, not even because the main character is a stupid teen bitch.
When they did it? This actually seems better than what they did.
>Oh gawd, who am I talking to, you don't even argument your position but keep criticizing.
Just giving my honest opinion, try to make something interesting from what you have, instead of doing random scenaios just because you think that they are cool, this is how we got the worst things on Korra, specially season 2.
![hqdefault[4].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9AlZkFX.jpg "hqdefault[4].jpg")
>>77482909
Sounds more like Katara though.
>>77479131
>animeposter asking someone if they have self-awareness
lmfao
>>77479131
as if the other AU wasnt just taking Avatar and sloppily stacking the 80s ontop of it
>>77482714
post-apocalyptic wasteland is kinda boring tho
and skipping a generation because "he was lazy for some reason" is lame,
why not explore what he did so wrong
we can have a main character that's maybe just just a normal bender and how he's effected with a bad avatar.
btw would the spirit link be created again when korra died? like would korra be able to speak to the new avatar?
>>77482714
oh the reason why quoted you from >>77483029 is because i want to ask
why is that picture a gif? i've seen that one alot and it not animated.
I dont even need another season. Just give me an art book showcasing every avatar up to aang. With 10000 years to work with, there should only be 150 to 200 of them. Just dedicate one page or half a page to each one. Show me their design and give me a little snipped of their life. Thats all i need.
>>77482956
> When they did it?
> in book 1
So you confirm you're a gay hipster and can't just see things as they actually are?
> this is how we got the worst things on Korra, specially season 2
I wasn't even talking about random scenarios, you can still have good overall setting and good story. Book 2 is an example not only of bad scenario, but also of a really bad setting, because it overrides the original and doesn't bring anything instead.
>>77483029
> why not explore what he did so wrong
This is explained in the series. Like in ATLA nobody knows what happened to Roku until he explains it himself.
>>77483110
>So you confirm you're a gay hipster and can't just see things as they actually are?
I asked you to show what on Korra makes her a typical schoolgirl doing typical schoolgirl things".
>Book 2 is an example not only of bad scenario, but also of a really bad setting, because it overrides the original and doesn't bring anything instead.
Yeah, and you got that making the world goes to shit post apocalipse, not even 2 hundrerd years after Aang die, makes everything that he and Korra did meanless? Hell, the world being conquered by the Fire Nation wold have probably avoided it.
This series could be a collection of multiple stories of interest, each dedicated to 1/2-1 season
*Have a story about the events during the 100 year war:
Dragon Hunting
Iroh's many adventures such as spirit world and meeting the dragons
*Have stories about adult Aang and the Gaang
*Maybe the adventures of some past unknown and known Avatars who get a few vignettes for themselves.
This series would need a lot of writers. I think thats one of the reasons Korra suffered like it did, along with how Nick treated it.What do you think /co/?
>>77483415
Could be cool, but Avatar never has an impact to do it. It will always be remembered as a good children show, but it would need to have the same impact of Star Wars or Matrix to the franchine be able to do things like it. Bryke is also inconpetent with the market and the brand, not only with writting.
>>77483069
I have no idea why it is a giff, I just downloaed it.
>>77483286
Fire Nation only conquered the world because avatar "suddenly disappeared". It's like Kuvira is going to conquer the Republic city and the rest of the world and then Korra suddenly gets frozen for 100 years. And the series show that pretty clearly: Republic City government isn't doing anything to stop Kuvira, and so are the other nations. Seriously, what makes you sure that one of the next avatars won't get frozen for 100 years and the story won't repeat once again?
> what on Korra makes her a typical schoolgirl doing typical schoolgirl things
She runs from her parents. She "falls in love" with some random guy she won't care about that much later on. She runs from Tenzin. She is aggressive, emotional, egoistic and egocentric, she thinks that once she's the avatar, her world-worth decisions are always right, or at least everyone has to agree with them. She is a fucking pussy, she doesn't know what she has to do. Absolutely infantile even for 17 yo, mentally she is 14-15 yo. And that's because the audience is 15 years old, and people enjoy watching shows about themselves, but where they are presented older, stronger or wiser, pick at least one.
>>77483415
> ATLA 2005-2008
Damn I thought that series was much older.
>>77483415
did anyone know what episode J.J. abrams did?
>>77483822
Holly shit, if this is your vision of a typical teenage girl, you are a shit virgim.
Also, what you listed made her seem like a generic inconpetent shonen hero, not a "normal scholgirl".
>Seriously, what makes you sure that one of the next avatars won't get frozen for 100 years and the story won't repeat once again?
So you are really repeating the same plot of the old show? Just so you can copy a generic fallout too? How are the chances that this happens again, not even three avatars away from Aang?
![d9c65daab14656b05e7089068a27eb0b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OFOjLWt.jpg "d9c65daab14656b05e7089068a27eb0b[1].jpg")
>>77484078
If Korra wouldn't be there, Kuvira would conquer the world. The story repeats itself in every other Korra season, but Korra actually manages to sort things out. Eventually, something's gonna happen to Korra, isn't it?
Though it leads to a ridiculous conclusion. While Aang is dead and Korra is too young, nothing much happens to the world. Korra grows up, shit starts to happen, Korra gets disabled, shit stops happening. Pic related
>>77484718
Things happened, just look at the Earth Kingdom as a third world country full of poverty and bandits, and the Triads, the equalist pre-Korra.
We just didnt saw that.
>>77484784
> just look at the Earth Kingdom as a third world country full of poverty and bandits
Just like it always was? And it's not going to get any different after Kuvira is down.
> the equalist pre-Korra
Nobody even knew about Amon, the equalists were more of a social trend.
> the Triads
Nothing serious nor unusual.
>>77482482
>Or make the world a better place becaue Korra in the end made right decisions
Except she didn't. She made a series of rash, poorly thought out snap choices and fucked most of them up. Results always ranged from "that could have ended worse" to "things are totally screwed, so here's a deus ex machina to unfuck it."
She literally does nothing right throughout the entire series, just barely manages to rectify a small portion of her mistakes, and in the end it all gets played off as her being the blameless hero.
There need to be consequences for the awful nature of her actions and choices. Sadly that will never happen, because Bryke are a pair of hacks.
>>77478151
Why not sand bender...when will my sand people have representation.
>>77484966
>Results always ranged from "that could have ended worse" to "things are totally screwed, so here's a deus ex machina to unfuck it."
Except for the book 1, which is the best of the whole series. Damn I can remember the hype around it, and then bryke fucked up everything in awful book 2.
>>77484904
>Just like it always was?
Nah, its worse, you saw a bunch of favelas next to the walls when they showed Mako and Bolin family, the population on Ba Sing Se is bigger, and with more poverty. Probably a result of the refugees of the war, that were all going to the city. The political instability got so bad that the entire structure colapsed, and the Kingdom turned into a bunch of conflicted states.
>And it's not going to get any different after Kuvira is down.
Well, at least is the chance to start another regime and social system. On acient China there was always a unification, social conflict, everybody breaking into smaller kingdons, and them uniting again. All of it changing when the current political system colapses, and they need other better thing to deal with its particular problems.
>Nobody even knew about Amon
But he WAS there, building an army and giant robots, just because you didnt know, it doesnt mean that cool shit wasnt happening.
>the equalists were more of a social trend.
But there was all the conflict that originated them.
>Nothing serious nor unusual.
Well, yeah, but still something, even Aagn dealed with organized crime. Personally, I would have liked some more focus on them. The Triads were also part of the reason for why people sided with the equalists, so dealing with them coud only help the case.
>>77485066
>Except for the book 1, which is the best of the whole series
Are you implying that Korra crying like a bitch until Aang shows up to give her bending back isn't a deus ex machina?
>>77484966
Are you THAT autistic anon that always shows up on avatar threads?
>>77485138
> But he WAS there, building an army and giant robots, just because you didnt know, it doesnt mean that cool shit wasnt happening.
Shit isn't happening until it's happening. Amon raising a secret army isn't shit yet. He wasn't even going to show up until Korra's arrival as he said himself, after all.
>Avatar in Fallout
>Not Avatar in Space
What the fuck guys.
>>77478151
Post Apoclyptic is fucking lame is overdone.
/co/ made a better story about an earth bender avatar a long ass time ago.
>>77485267
>Shit isn't happening until it's happening. Amon raising a secret army isn't shit yet.
Building an army is shit happening.
Using said army, is other shit happening.
You could have a story with the two, like if a cop or detective discovered Amon and Sato conection, and had to fight to stay alive while Sato contracted a bunch of assassins across the world to kill you, or Amon sending equalists.
Get it? Conflict can be build on these scenarios, you jjust need to think on what would change ig you insered variables.
>>77479036
That's assuming the Avatar world develops the same way our world did. It doesn't have to.
Considering how Korra had a giant robot powered by spirit magic, the next Avatar could very well look something like pic related
>>77485138
> The political instability got so bad that the entire structure colapsed, and the Kingdom turned into a bunch of conflicted states.
It was never stable. Think of Aang first coming into Ba Sing Se and then traveling through the kingdom. And I don't think overall poverty could increase after Korra got wrecked by Zaheer. The 100+ years of Fire Nation total domination can only lead to decrease of poverty or at least stagnation. The Earth kingdom was always fucked up and it seems there's no way out of that unless actually dividing into substates.
> But there was all the conflict that originated them.
Then Korra arrived just in time, huh?
>even Aang dealed with organized crime.
Gotta agree, though this organized crime doesn't look like a big problem until Korra appears. Because well, there is police ruled by Lin and they don't deal with criminality at all. Everyone knows who's the big boss, Amon proves that on the revelation, and Amon takes his bending away. Lin did literally nothing, for all the years.
What was the deal with that single Indian guy in ATLA, why he seemed to be one of a kind, where is the India equivalent? Was there ever an Avatar from there? Was there even a sand bender Avatar?
>>77485150
At least it's lore-friendly, there was kinda same episode in Aang series.
>>77485268
There is no air, water or earth in space, fire too much imba.
>>77485859
comets are ice, and I'm pretty sure most of the space debris can easily count as earth; a space avatar series wouldn't take place in complete vacuum for goodness sake
>>77485790
> where is the India equivalent
Air nomads are.
>>77485787
>It was never stable. Think of Aang first coming into Ba Sing Se and then traveling through the kingdom.
But it was on the middle of a war.
And it obviously got worse, because it got crowded.
You have a great amount of refugees going there, and after years, they multiply, even more when the thechnological development incresy the population. Samething happened on cities during industrial revolution.
>. And I don't think overall poverty could increase after Korra got wrecked by Zaheer.
More complex, it all started to get worse when they lost the central power: The queem.
Without her, you have revolutions, nobles going havok and other dramas. Again: This kind of thing is common across the history, and very simillar to what happened on chinese empires.
> The 100+ years of Fire Nation total domination can only lead to decrease of poverty or at least stagnation.
Are you talking about if the FN had won the war?
>The Earth kingdom was always fucked up and it seems there's no way out of that unless actually dividing into substates.
To be honest, the Earth Kingdom dinasty has hundred of years, it just colapsed when it stoped to work.
>Then Korra arrived just in time, huh?
Depend on what you call "in time". As we know, Amon was waiting for her, if she didnt had arrived, he would have done other stuff, and worked on his equalists structure.
But "in time" is also an issue. I could say that "in time" could be defeating Amon before he got too powerful.
>>77485787
>though this organized crime doesn't look like a big problem until Korra appears.
Well, we only knew about anything about Republic City after Korra got there. We know that there was some big gangster families there, an that they were part of the reason for the appeal of the equalists.
The thing about these big gangster families, is that they are hard to deal, many famous mob leaders on USA had politial power or were very influent on the comunitty, even if people know that they are problem. This still happens on places like Mexico or Brazil - where I live. Pretty much everybody knew that Tarrloks dad was a criminal mastermind, but they had problens to find the proofs.
>>77485932
> comets are ice
The only problem is that you'd never get closer than a couple of thousand kilometers to one.
> I'm pretty sure most of the space debris can easily count as earth
Same, you'd get crushed.
> a space avatar series wouldn't take place in complete vacuum for goodness sake
What's the point then? Some space ships? Why even use bending when you have laser/plasma/pulse/insert weaponry then? And fire is still overpowered.
>>77485956
He wasnt from the same ethnicity tho.
>>77485790
Well, he could be from a small minority. How many other guys in ATLA looked like that? I remeber some character that had some different traces, like similar to black people, like Suyn assistant.
Earth kingdom seems to have way some ethnic diversity than other nations.
>>77486111
>Earth kingdom seems to have way some ethnic diversity than other nations.
They're simply much bigger. That and we don't really know who lives on those archipelagos south to it, I always just assumed that's where the minor characters of unique ethnicity all come from.
>>77486030
> Depend on what you call "in time".
She came into the city right about when Amon was going to show up. To create the opposition, the real political force, and to lead it. Before Korra it all was pretty quiet. Korra is away, shit is in, Korra pops up, shit suddenly gets out. That gotta mean something.
It's almost 4 AM here, I'm gonna sleep. Thanks for this nice conversation we had here :з
>>77486444
Teh sandbender? Isn't it some kind of earthbending anyway?
>>77486444
Captain Cold is my favorire Avatar
>>77486462
>>77486488
Why are you misspelling your words?
>>77478151
>>77479200
Weirdly, my own idea for an Avatar series was actually inspired a bit by The Dragon faction in the Secret World.
The idea that the world is peaceful to the point of stagnancy, and in a rare first, The Avatar opts to become the villain. Pushing society towards change and evolution no matter the cost.
Of course, having The Avatar be the villain would mean we'd focus more on other characters.And then to obfuscate things further, it's hard to tell who the hell the Avatar really is because he's using proxies, minions, etc. who all possess a similar build and wear the same damn outfits.
>>77487388
Source?
>>77485394
are you talking about Shen? that was full cringe m8
>>77490946
It wasn't that bad. It was just one or two guys throwing in their retarded ideas that ruined the threads.
