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How's Your Webcomic? #211
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Old thread: >>77362811

>Post ideas, art, comics you've done
>Share your website/portfolio
>Ask for critique, information, or advice on writing or drawing
>Do some fanart for someone if you feel so inclined.
>Do some exercises. It'll be fun
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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag

Here’s a short list of links that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Let’s start of the list with a useful guide for PANEL LAYOUT:
http://innerspace.notonigon.com/?p=8

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
PEOPLE: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV (embed)

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'scribblehatch' or 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.

rizon network #webcomic is also a chatroom

>*-And the >>>/ic/1579290 sticky is always good to have around

Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qby0ed4aVpo [Embed] [Embed]

Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf

http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf

http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf


Paper Wings

http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/

https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/
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fantastic timing. i had a brain fart and forgot to check for a new thread til just now
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>>77463066
OP here
Funniest thing is, I'm not even a webcomic creator, I only lurk; and thanks God that I have All hyw threads filtered to show up in the thread watcher

Didn't have time to edit >>77463080 though
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>>77463147
neither of those has been posted in forever anyway
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So, We got any topics or anything.

Maybe post your outline of your comic plot?
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>>77463457
or maybe post great new techniques you just learned
like using a layer set to 'overlay' to tint things in a way you can't otherwise
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Alright, so
how's this?
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>>77463457

I like that, it might encourage more people to actually get shit done.

Have a desert hovertruck concept I posted in the batman thread earlier.
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>>77463036

recently finished 2 pages of FATES, heres 1/2

you can read them and more soon here: http://fates.thecomicseries.com/

>>77463080
>>77463095
>>77463147
>>77463746

why do you do this? aside from having no life and nothing better to do? how does it make you feel anon?
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>>77463771
there's something wonderful about giant blocky desert hovertrucks. i've seen them in so much scifi and i love em
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>>77463861

2/2
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Almost done with this page.
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>>77463884

I see what you did there.
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Reposting today's page in case anybody missed it, what do you guys think?
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>>77463457
How about a challenge to artist then: draw a 3-panel gag strip with your MC.

in MSPaint
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What are your opinions on displaying a character's name in a wordbox when introducing them?
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>>77464952
I have no problem with it. Then again, I wrote a page where the main character speaks directly to the reader and introduces her whole family in caption boxes.
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>>77463884
How come I cannot stop laughing? What is the name of this series?
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>>77464992
I really feel like that should say "-our- daughter, Jackie." seeing as how her husband was introduced just before her, that is unless Mark isn't the father.
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>>77464185

yeah not just that movie but all western movies are a huge inspiration for this comic, and not just movies but games and anime like trigun to maybe, i really want this to feel like a western by the time the first chapter is done

all while being as 100% unique and original as possible ya know?

original characters and world, but familiar death scenes and elements seen in old western movies and stuff, ya know?
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>>77465402
Mark is the father. Perhaps the wording was a misstep on my part, but since the comic is told from Jan's POV I don't think it's that great a sin.
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>>77464504
It looks pretty good. Website?
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>>77465352

why are you laughin' punk?

you think this is a game or somethin'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFa1-kciCb4
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>>77465522
http://miss-melee.com/
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>>77465511
Not that big a deal, but if he's the love of her life you'd think it would be more natural for her to think of parenthood as a partnership. It would be one thing if Mark hadn't been introduced yet and it was just her and Jackie, "my daugher" in that context would be perfectly appropriate, but he's right there and introduced in the panel just prior. Just feels like a slip on the writer's part, and I think just about any married reader would pick up on it.
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>>77465531
>>77465480
>>77464185
shut up, Jesse
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Ba-bam, new page.

I've been very busy today with animation.
I may have joined up with a group of them.
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>>77465906
Whoops, forgot page, haha.
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>>77465920
In panel 2 the shadows make it look like her tits have slid into her armpits
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>>77466180
Mmm, yes I should fix that, thanks bruv.
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>>77463095
>>77463095
>>77463095
Daily reminder, Bones is named Jesse Garza, is an adult, and requests a modest $1000 a month on his patreon, to pay his rent, so he can stay home and create.
Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/bonesofruin?ty=h

Get some original Bones art!
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There's a whole bunch of words.
words words words
writing words is fun
http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/133151232825

I hope the plot's a lil' clearer now.

Also, i wan't some feedback, in some way.
Just say something about comic.
say some things
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Don't let the dream die.
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>>77466251
Always use a reference when drawing, motherfucker
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>>77463036
hey! just wondering, does anyone have any resources on how to write for a comic?
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>>77471230
>how to write for a comic?

Just write the comic.

Outline it
Plot it.
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>>77471230

I've heard a few things, either going about it as you draw the panels, while just planning out the major events on a timeline. Or you could have it set up like a show, where you plan out the entire script, and then create your panels based around the scripts that you've written.
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>>77469883
but i'm so tired

and i'm so bad

and nobody else cares
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>>77471300
Y'know I'm fairly certain it's a skill with nuance, a learning curve, and lots of pitfalls.

And I think he knows it, and is asking for a little guidance.
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>>77471319
>>77471300
alright cool. i guess im just over thinking it. I just gotta write it and stop worrying about the format.
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>>77463036
How do you create a Webcomic?
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>>77471443
That's a question with a satisfactory answer that runs over the character limit of 4chan, I'm afraid.
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Let me try this one more time...

Google wouldn't let me find HYW 210, so I missed being able to upload some pages to you guys.

Anyway, I'm now doing a new schedule for Moonlit Brew! I now update twice on Mondays on Patreon, and to the public on Fridays! Atari and I also took your feedback on adding in the title of the webcomic on the pages themselves.

Let us know what you think!
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And the other page I uploaded at the same time! I don't know how to upload multiple images here (if you even can upload more than one image). I'm still new to this, after all.
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>>77471906

Can i eat it?
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>>77471230
Dont let these fools steer you wrong. Read comics first. Get to know how things go, How theyre formatted. I assume you havnt been living under a rock, so you probably are familiar with normal plot lines, and cliches to avoid. Id read a lot of stories if you could, and read the pixar infograph from OP. Also there are more writing guides for things that may not be intuitive online.

Its just story telling. You mention a lot of the boring details with the images, but the story is all the same.
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Not a web comic but me and some friends are working on a comic zine if anyone would mind giving us feedback.

http://imgur.com/a/BuShN
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>>77463884

i just got finished doing an epic redesign of my FATES card which is both for my playable card game prototype in real life and for characters to hold and use in the actual comicbook/webcomic/graphic novel//epic western saga

in the comic they refer to them s SCROLL CARDS

but in real life they will be called FATES cards! I hope its as big as magic and hearthstone one day, or even pokemon or yugioh tcg

maybe a studio will make an animated version of it for me, and digital games to! dream big guys!

oh and all this stuff is super copyrighted and trademarked by me so dont get to inspired by me, ok thanks, peace!
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>>77472957
>in the comic they refer to them as SCROLL CARDS*
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>>77472957

old versions/designs: http://jesse-the-art-maker.deviantart.com/art/FATES-80-different-card-concepts-of-4-sets-446114013
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>>77465511
It's okay if you're describing them to someone in a photo, which is basically what she's doing. yes, she's physically present with him in the page, but as an omniscient narrator it's just her and the reader together, he's not there, so it's okay not to say 'our'
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>>77467252
i just hope you remember to resolve all the cliffhangers.
also you don't usually call schematics 'true' per se, that's more something you'd say of a prophecy. a schematic is' accurate'
I like that most recent blurb, man. it kinda turns the whole second-person-voice CYOA thing in a weird direction. a good one.
>>77466251
just keep an eye on those free range detached shoulders. i think it would benefit you to do some brief pec-armpit-shoulder muscle studies
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>>77471230
oh it's you! i didn't recognize you when you drew the little trollgnome guy
i basically try to write like a sitcom script. this guy says this, this guy says that.. if he needs to DO something that isn't obvious by the dialogue, then write in that he should do that. if your comic isn't so wordy, think of it the same way. how are their actions having a 'conversation'?
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>>77471827
>google
catalog.neet.tv/co/
ctrl-f webcomic
>>77471854
i want to say there are plugins that let you 'pload multiple images. nice for storytiming
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>>77471906
i want this creature to be the first enemy you fight in an RPG
>>77472730
how dare you be this clever? it's one thing to make me want to read your publication, it's another to make me desperately covet a position in creating it
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I'm looking for a pair of impartial fresh eyes to criticize my work. Just not right here where there's public record. Is anyone game?
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>>77473467
oh no i'm not falling for that one again, i go into the back alley, you harvest my eyes
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>>77473550
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>>77473205
oh, you mean from the /b/ drawthreads? I seriously wish i had time to go there more often.

>>77473205
>>77472324
from what i've read and personal opinions, the format for which you should write a comic is
>Brainstorming
You need to have an idea behind a comic, be it a gimmick or a story. compile many different potential ideas and build from what interests you the most
>Outline
Set up ideas and plot points that are going to be important, a skeleton of the story you want to tell
>Expanding
fleshing out ideas, characters, motivations, and actions that lead the characters through the skeleton
>???Writing???
I feel there should be some more solidification of writing here but it also feels somewhat redundant. If you even need this part i dont know
>Story boarding
this is where you begin to visualize, finding out how the actions work, tone, and dialogue.
>Finished Product
as is obvious

Would you agree with this model?
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>>77473467
Is the HYW Skype group still even alive? because theyre your best bet criticizers and analyzers for your sekrit project.
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>>77473220
I have the 4Chan X plugin, but I don't think that allows me to upload more than 1 file at a time. I'll also keep the link you mentioned in mind, thanks!
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>>77473820
They aren't impartial because I'm in there and we know each other.
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>>77463057
>Wise words from John Cleese:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qby0ed4aVpo [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

Sheeee-eeesh you dorks. Caught you slippin
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>>77471230
In order to write a comic well, assuming you're part of the 99.999% of the planet who isn't naturally super-talented, you need two things: practice and study. Practice is simple: write a lot, for a long time. Study involves using your brain a bit more, basically you need to read comics and figure out how they work. It's not enough to just see what comics do that's good, it's also important to see what comics do that's bad and why it's bad, and also what comics do that's merely passable and why it's merely passable. It sounds weird and it is weird, but once you do it for a couple of issues it'll come naturally.
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>>77473820
>>77473467
>>77473550
>>77473900
>>77463036
>>77463057
There is a Discord chat up and running, it's very simple to join and it's very functional.

Please copy this link in the sticky
https://discord.gg/0ckxsOeUFTo5nffO
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S-stay strong, HYW-kun-chan-senpai!
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>>77475786
>S-stay strong
This has always pissed me off and it's time I blow my stack on you. If you were stuttering that phrase in real life, you wouldn't say it like that. You would say it like "st-stay."
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http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/133270248930
DRAMA
ACTION
GUNS
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>>77476756
I liked it better when it was about bugs.
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>>77476788
o-oh
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>>77476801
It's BUG quest, not human quest.
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>>77476801
the humancestors were a mistake
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>>77476978
>>77476890
:(
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>>77477465
Both sides are pretty enjoyable, and they don't really fuck with each other much. BQ is good
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http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/133279162100/
more ACTION, DRAMA and GUNS.

It has occurred to me that i haven't really written /normal/ dialogue before.
It's all been big picture boxes and indirect quotes and responding to asks and skype chatlogs, so far.
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Forgot image.

Also, did I fuddle up the words salad at the end?
Does it sound like he shat himself?

It was hard to phrase.
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Update time
http://amonguscomic.com/comic/snack-analysis/

http://amonguscomic.tumblr.com/post/133280136955/update-read-this-comic-at
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>>77473760
no i recognized you from posting in here this week
but i also recognized the other characters from you posting in here some time back
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>>77476113
no you wouldn't. you'd say either s-stay or sta-stay
though you're right, that does bug me when it's used wrong for other words.
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>>77476756
command machine aint workin right, the captcha ninesquare appears partially cut off
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>>77478967
hahaha, fantastic job, ants.
fants
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>>77479401

Haaa, someone recognized the callback. Feels good man
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Hey /co/, how important would you say art quality is in a webcomic? Like, if a comic has okay-ish or bad art, but an intriguing story would you still read it?
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>>77479301
"St-stay" and "Sta-stay" are both realistic desu.
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>>77479550
Writing is more important than art. The best example of this can be found in a print comic: Spider-Man 2099, the current volume by Peter David with "art" by Will Sliney. Sliney's art is usually not good and sometimes gets spectacularly bad due to it being Poser tracing and not REAL drawing, but David's writing carries the book and I read every new issue with excitement.
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>>77479329
There's a captcha nine square?
Hm...
Have you been sending a lot of asks recently?
Are you sending via anon (without a tumblr account)
I honestly didn't know there was a captcha.
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update

belongingtonobody.tumblr.com
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Someone stole my sketchbook. I don't know if they thought it was something valuable or something. I was drawing, got up to get a coffee (I took my actual valuables like my phone and wallet with me, so I'm not 100% stupid) but left my sketchbook because who the fuck would steal a sketchbook? And now it's gone.
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>>77479601
This gives me hope, because my art is bad but my writing is 9000x better. Unlike drawing I've actually taken classes in writing and had some of my stuff published in university magazines. Maybe I actually can get this idea I've been working on to work.
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>>77479711
>(I took my actual valuables like my phone and wallet with me, so I'm not 100% stupid) but left my sketchbook because who the fuck would steal a sketchbook

Your beautiful art is mine now!
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>>77479767
I keep switching between being really bummed and really flattered. I mean, I guess I would have been more on my guard if there were some tweens/teens being obnoxious or something, but seriously everyone in there looked like a normal 20something year old.
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>>77479711
You have condolences, hope you can find it.
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>>77479437
it did take me a second, since this comic is quite silly, it's almost like one where ants would randomly be like that. then i was like OH YEAH the ants
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>>77479579
nobody's going to stop right after the t phoneme, especially if they're stuttering it into another s. that's why words like 'vests' fuck us up
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threw this together in a few minutes before work, pretty bad, but you get the idea. How does co feel about panels like this?
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>>77479603
yep.
nope
yes
really? well it has always been a ninesquare. i'd appreciate if you could fix that but i understand avoiding spam
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>>77479686
majesty*
i love his expression in the last panel but i think the head tilted down slightly would have accomplished a bit more
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>>77480620
I really wouldn't know how to.
I guess you could make a tumblr account if you can deal with the hassle, or just tell me directly
i think ill set up an about page with some contact details
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>>77479711
fuuuck dude.
>>77479804
>using the word tweens
>thinking you can tell teens from 20somethings
>thinking one is suspicious and the other isnt
... anyway i still hope you get your sketchbook back. did you ask at the front? maybe someone will return it or something
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>>77480612
Those are some fat lips
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>>77480683
yeah i'm happy to just make suggestions here
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>>77480612
Less lines on the lips, unless the character is supposed to be wearing clown makeup or is a 1930s caricature of black people.
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Barely did anything this week, webcomic related.
This is a practice I threw today for the illustration of a Fable I have to do for my seminar.
I still have to run a few more practices until I find a face suitable for the younger brother of the tale I picked, but I'm still not satisfied.

As always, I welcome any comment on this.

Deleted the post because I forgot the pic like the faggot I am
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>>77480723
hahaha
>>77480799
wait you're serious?
guys it's obviously teeth
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>>77480807
good construction here. and it's neat practicing different features. it's hard to even say which i like better, i think they just feel like different archetypes.. a doof, a brutelet, a vicious sumbitch, and a schemer
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>>77480853
Oh, I see it now. It wasn't very obvious to me at all!
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whoa dewd youre out of bandwidth.
on one hand, congrats. on the other hand, better go contact hoisington and let him know
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>>77480887
I probably use the scheemer face for the older brother, who will have a tall, slender build, so I'll need to made a few adjustments. As for the little brother, once I get home, I'll try to run a few more faces, I may do the cover and have different faces to test on it and see which one looks better once the cover is done.
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>>77480968
Maybe one day I too will run out of bandwidth.
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Anon, the thread is dying because you are not posting your comic. How does that make you feel?
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>>77482860
But I did post my comic.
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>>77480620
>>77480683
I've seen the ninesquare getting cut on all the tumblrs's asks, so I guess it's tumblrs fault, rather than scrublords'
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>>77477465
I think you at this point you think that everyone is so interested in you comic you are already starting to diverge from your original concept. That isn't the case though, the people who got into your comic came there for what it was, and aren't necessarily so interested they will stay with you if you do drastic changes like this.
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>>77482860

I wanted to post this.

I got it from the draw-threads. It was awesome! Some weird guy wanted porn....He was weird.
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>>77483014
His torso looks fucked up.
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>>77483003
>diverge from your original concept
it was kind of the idea i had from fairly early on, i just hadn't gotten around to it until recently

I hope it works out okay

Now that i've checked the google analytics, the audience hasn't grown since about july
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>>77483091

Increase the number of moth waifus.
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>>77483135
good plan
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>>77483091
If that's the case, maybe you should consider rewriting whatever you have planned. If you want an audience, you sometimes have to sacrifice what you want to make for what people would like to see.
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>>77482860
Alright, fuck, I'll bite. I'm not past the concept art when it comes to character design, but I have an idea, a setting, and a general idea of a couple character arcs. As they say, write a beginning and an end first, then figure out the middle later.
The premise of the comic is:

A 20-something college drop-out with a shit life has a conversation in a bar with a stranger who asks a few unorthodox questions about his life. The man seems to come to some conclusion about our young protagonist and then leaves. Not much later, a bright light resembling ball lightning appears in the bar and surrounds him. Next thing he knows. he's not in the shitty hole-in-the-wall bar he drinks his troubles away at, but in the middle of a huge sand desert on what can only be an alien world, on account of the two suns in the pale blue sky. Cue wandering through the desert montage.

Eventually he meets some other humans who have very similar stories to his own. Met a stranger, talked to him, he left, and now they're here. Thing is, none of them seem to have come from the same year, though some have only been there a few days or so. One guy has been there a few years, but he says he comes from 1555. They also meet the native inhabitants of the desert planet, some humanoid aliens who's culture is vaguely Arabic inspired. Their technology is pretty much on a Dark Age level, though some technological relics from alien races exist on the planet and are treated as magical artifacts.

The comic covers the human's attempts to figure out how to get home, some political intrigue regarding the planet's factions, and interpersonal conflicts between the characters.
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>>77483052

Eeh, I don't care.

I really like it.
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>>77483161
nah. he should just have fun
after all iirc this comic is just kind of him experimenting and playing. hence why the art started out rrl loose
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>>77483185
very cool. i would be interested in this
and remember, people in 1555 didn't call it 1555 yet.. in most of the world. but some of them called it like 1549 or so, i think. but most of them didn't. and you wouldn't be able to understand wtf they were saying
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>>77483185
>A 20-something college drop-out with a shit life
I see this type of MC in so many things made by /co/mrades including me, it really demonstrates the demographics of this board better than anything else could.

I mean hell, I'm 25 and I've been writing that kind of character since I was 18.
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>>77483211
I wish this excuse for mediocrity would die.
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As of tomorrow, Beat Warrior will be colored traditionally. Here's a preview!

Feel free to check out the comic at http://beatwarriorcomic.com!
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>>77483052
It looks right to me
unless you mean the coat
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>>77483243
Thanks. Good point about the year, I didn't know that. I had thought of the language barrier though, that's why he's been there longer than the other MCs. To be a vehicle for exposition, and so he's had time to pick up modern English from other humans that arrived out of 1957 or something.
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>>77483161
>whatever you have planned
i've not really written much and i'd rather make something that I like.
I'll keep it in consideration, though

>>77483211
i wouldn't call it 'Loose' so much as 'bad'
i was fairly new to the whole digital art thing and didn't know what the story was about until afterwards

>>77483258
it's not really 'mediocrity & fun' vs 'goodness and being difficult' as much as it is 'insect furry waifus' vs 'science fiction calamity story'

I'll try to make something more objectively good when i finish bquest and can move on to something that i can design from the ground up.
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>>77483255
True enough. I chose that demographic so he'd be largely without interesting character traits. More of an audience avatar than the rest of the cast.
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>>77483255
some of us still like hypercapable kids and teenagers, anon
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>>77483295
basically the guy who calculated the year of christ's birth, which i fucking forget when this was but it was a lot later than you'd think, did so with a slightly faulty calendar that also didn't have leap years yet, so when they recalculated it it turned out he was born in like 4 BC, and they had to just skip a bunch of years to get back on track, or something.. i could be remembering this wrong. I definitely know that when leap years were properly accounted for, they skipped a bit of time, and it was sometime in the 18th century. and that's why when we celebrate washington's birthday isn't the day HE would have called his birthday
but as it is the gregorian calendar took time to catch on even outside of its inconsistencies.. so it depends where this guy is from. but i love the idea of
>he's had time to pick up modern English from other humans that arrived out of 1957 or something.
so he's like "oh you speak english, that's swell"
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>>77483336
>wings
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>>77483447
I know.
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Also, I've noticed that it's almost exactly a year since I started the comic

What a year!
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>>77483625
Gratz!
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>>77483625

Now, You inspire me to look back to my art.

Annnd....Nothing happen.
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>>77483625
Maybe you should keep doing bugs, because that's a fucked up looking human.
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>>77483900
you're getting there
>>77483913
i think he's meant to be. but akunna was a cute
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>>77483913
I'd like to think the other drawings of him look a bit less shit, but drawing is hard, i guess
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>>77483427
I'll definitely have to brush up on my history. Definitely looking forward to writing his dialogue though. This guy grew up in Germany during the early 1500s, so he's OG Holy Roman Empire Catholic. Became a blacksmith's apprentice, learned the trade, joined the guild and learned Middle English to talk with merchants and such from Britain. Now he's on this crazy-ass desert planet, learned Modern(ish) English from one of the few other humans he encountered, and picked up the native tongue as well. It's a clusterfuck of multilingual madness.

>"Oh, you are speakings auf Englisch. Howdy there! Wilkommen to Atothea!"

Btw, the working title for this comic >>77483185 is "A Desert Called Love".

Maybe you'll see more of me here once I get past exams.
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>>77484099
oh that sounds good.
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>have an idea for a oneshot
>have a prospect ending in mind, how the characters are like, how their interaction will be like and what the story's flow would be like
>type the story in english
>everything is ruined
>idea does not meet the product
>original events have to be replaced with something else to conform to the story
>product ends up inferior from planned

Every goddamn time. I want to cry.
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>>77484604
You didn't even make a product dude, you were still in the concept phase.
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>>77484604
>Every goddamn time. I want to cry.
The whole point of getting good trying to get what you make to match what you imagine.
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>>77484922
fuck. Concept phase. Of course! Since I can whip up art fast, and ideas always come flowing in like water, I always thought I could go about "continuously". Sorry if its kinda difficult to understand. English is limited. Im drowning in all these ideas with no fruitition.
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Is there a John K of comic writing?
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>>77485715
No.
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Its not really a webcomic, but my first little comic so I'm not sure if its okay to post here but i posted in /ic/ already without any replies so I was wondering if I could get some critique?
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>>77487030

It is okay.
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>>77487030
Steer clear. Either you'll look like a troll to them, or they will tear you a new one.

Try to make your comic more easy on the eyes. More cleaner, better lines. Don't make it too crammed. It doesn't have to be perfect. Many people will just scroll by a comic that is too messy, and a messy comic will not grab attention. Is there a bigger size to this? Will there be color? If there won;t be color, it would be great if you can at least use different shades of green to make it better on the eyes. See, many like to think they can get by by putting the least effort, but not many can pull it off.
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>>77483185
Oh fuck, this sounds uncomfortably similar to my idea...
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>>77480853
This is the OP. Thanks anon, I got a bit disturbed by m teeth appearing like lips to a control group
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>>77487030
how is this not a webcomic?
i fucking love it.
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>>77487733
there are ways to help, a little sort of lip-edge detail around the teeth. sometimes just a line under the lower lip is all you need
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Would you all buy a heroic Soviet soldier?
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ok guys, pls rate my idea:

Black loli finds some amulet that grant her magic powers, so she became basically a magical girl.
The villain is a dark version of her, like those evil sony dark edgy versions.

They start to confront and become rivals, but noone can defeat the other because they always tie or some shit.

So in the end they learn to deal with her alternate version.
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>>77488111
commies are never heroes
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>>77487698
Hey, it happens. Great minds think alike and there are no new ideas. The important part is what you bring to the idea that's unique to your own point of view. I'll keep doing what I'm doing, you keep doing what you're doing, and we'll probably come to very similar yet different places
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>>77488111
as long as they dont believe in it, yeah. otherwise theyd have to be pretty deluded and would be heroes only in their own little worlds.
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>>77488209
I liked your version where she was a mulatto better.
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>>77488209
we need more black magical girls. looks good on em.
I stopped reading 'how i loathe being a magical girl' because as charming and fun as it is it just never went anywhere and became a mess of visuals
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>>77488111
Yes, If you buy my heroic nazi soldier.
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>>77488372
I dunno, she's chocolate skin in my mind.

>>77488388
It was an idea for a game tbqh.
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>>77488459
magical girls dont have enough vidyagames. imagine viewtiful joe if it was more mahou and less sentai
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>>77488358
He's very naive, yeah. He genuinely believes in communism and is blind to corruption. But he's good at killing Nazis and inspires his comrades, so the top brass keep him around.

A big part of his story arc is realizing he's been a pawn all his life.
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>>77488712
oh those parts help. okay sure.
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>>77483913
nigger
if he doesn't draw humans now he won't be able to do non-fucked up humans later on
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>>77488358
>Communism is bad because it's communism
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>>77489449
exactly
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>>77489449
no, just communism is bad. it's bad for a number of reasons, none of which are 'because it's communism'
however, the reasons it is communism are mostly the same reasons it is bad. i can draw you a diagram if you want
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>>77490082
p. cool
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>>77488354
Okay, but still, it bothers me. The main difference between our ideas seems to be the fact that yours is focused on humanity while mine has more focus placed on various alien races. Also, your humans were "gathered" for a greater breadth of time; mine were only taken from 1985 to 2036.

Tell me, is andromeda crashing into the Milky Way a central plot element?
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>>77490680
Nope. Scale isn't that big by far. This is mostly about a small cast of characters, biggest it gets is conflicts between nations.
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>>77490680
i will never understand how that shit works. a galaxy has an average density of something like one hydrogen atom per cubic centimeter. How can it have a shared gravity, when its individual gravity sources (The core etc) are vastly more significant than the whole? I could see a BAR of a galaxy being sort of swept aside by another galaxy's core's gravity, but it's astounding that the entire galaxy would move, uniformly, towards another.. and that they could in any way collide. Seems like even if they occupied the same space, the chance of anything colliding would be like spitting from a plane and hoping to hit a cat
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How do I keep fetishes out of it?
Have a tendency to draw overweight women while my writer keeps noting I need to have thinner bodies.
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It's dead.
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>>77491126

Start by picking up a less shit fetish.
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>>77491126
in your particular case you have a disorder, so, cure it. i'm not sure how.. it comes so naturally to the rest of us to desire health
but just for others having trouble drawing outside their fetish.. uhhh..watch a lot of things that aren't it.. you'll get used to it over time?
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>>77489449
Well shit. Meant to link at >>77488712 too.

>>77489543
>>77489564

What I meant is that that anon shouldn't confuse communism with soviet.
Same with that hero: does he believe in communism or in soviet russia?

Why soviet russia is bad is fairly well known: dictatorship, censorship, goulag, etc.; but if you're going to portray communism itself as bad, I sure hope you've got something else to offer besides corruption and "being used as a pawn", because I'm pretty sure that marx never intended for any of that shit. Otherwise you're just as bad as the faggots shouting about the "capitalist pigs"
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>>77491630
well someone's learned a lot in his first semester of college
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>>77464142

Another comic!
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>>77485715
Dave Sim
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I need help in grammar. Nevermind the messy draft. I have sought help from a friend, but she is also weak and said "nyeh its ok". Especially the sentence "How can she do that to me?!" = refering to a sudden break up of partner in a relationship. Is "How could she do that to me"? Read left to right.
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>>77493535
2/2
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>>77491088
While far away from each other, direction and strength is prety much the same, so the galaxy moves uniformly.

Shit starts happening when they get close to each other. Either you hit (rare) or you miss (more common) the object you were being attracted to. If you miss, two things could happen:
a) you go faster (passing behind a big enough object)
b) you slow down (passing in front of a big enough object)

If you speed up, you'll be flung away from whatever orbit you were in, and if you slow down you probably won't be fast enought to miss the next object you pass next to and either crash into it or, if you're insanely lucky, orbit around it for long enough.

This will result in more asteroids and comets picked along the way, or maybe we're flung out of the Milky Andromeda hybrid, or the earth is flung away from the sun and becomes a snowball drifting in the void. Who knows.
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>>77493535
i think you meant 'cautious' in that last bubble
it's weird to say "The.. me has been" but there's no real way to fix that without rewriting it entirely.
and when you're using it as a substitute for names, you capitalize Mama, Mom, etc. Only when you add 'my' do you drop the capitals
>>77493559
when on difficult ground*

otherwise good
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>>77493767
ohhhh I guess that makes sense.. it's BECAUSE it's all so relatively insignificant that nothing stops it all from being pulled at once, at that distance
man gravity is fucking weird. but the weirdest thing to me is rotational inertia. i'll never understand how that works
as for our future, they believe the sun will have already cooked us by then so no worries
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>>77493901
>while ON
Oh thanks!
>cautious
No. I really mean captious. As in... she isn't in the position to whine. That was the best synonym of 'picky' that I have
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>>77494042
i love it when i learn new words because someone foreign used an obscure one
just so you know though, if -i- don't know a word, it's VERY obscure. but i think people will get it from context.
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What kind of stuff do you draw for promotional art for your webcomic? I need ideas.
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>>77494155
not just drawing them in various costumes, but indeed in the full costumes and trappings of an alternate setting, is a really fun way to go. like how manga will often have bits of that for its intro pages. like 'oh hey what if it was arabian nights for everyone and they all drove around in ramshankle cars instead of what i have actually established as the setting'
otherwise little one-shot gags.. eyecatches..
we used to have a lot of fun activities in these threads, does anyone have a list of them? There was like
>Draw your characters having their favorite food/drinks
and uh.. others.. but i'm having trouble remembering
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>>77493535
im no grammar wiz, but this is what i would suggest:

>and without many vacancies in the dormatories close to the university...

>when on difficult ground, one must always keep steady on the march.
or
>when on difficult ground one must always steadily march.
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>>77493535
>>77493559
Your main character hair style is very similar to mine.

This hair is too perfect for 'cool head' type character. Don't you agree?
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>>77494326
>when on difficult ground
>and without many vacancies in the dormitories close to the university
>when on difficult ground, one must always keep steady on the march/ steadily march

Gotcha! So much better now!
Sorry if the mistakes are very obvious! Somehow the wordings keep appearing equal to me, so I seek help.

>>77494477
Who? The one in orange or green? There are no "cool" in both of them. Both are losers that you people call "cukc".
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>>77494581
>There are no "cool" in both of them. Both are losers that you people call "cukc".
Cool head =/= cool person
Cool head = calm and calculated.

Expand your vocabulary.
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>>77472957

started on a new page yall
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>>77494726
Woop. I'm ashamed.
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>>77494773

yeah im just going to color it just like this, all though it can get brutal as fuck it IS for all ages and it should be sort of cartoony as well as super awesome and serious, but not to serious or consistently drawn like say an anime or manga ya know? i dont want it to get compared to yu-gi-oh or anything
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>>77464504
IN THE NEXT EPISODE OF MARTIAL MILF

no but seriously can't wait to see how this scene ends and the family gets to react
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>>77495128

dang all i have to do now is shade it, detail the ground with a stamp brush and blur brush and slap some WOOD BALLOONS on and its done

hey should i trademark and copyright WOOD BALLOONS since im the first person to think of it and do it????
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>>77495670

shading turned out pretty good!
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>>77496184

i fixed the shading on her arm in the last panel where she is holding the card summoning device, you'll see it in the finished page when i post it!
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>>77496184

Ahem...

annnnnd its done, I hope yall like it!

this little boy might seem like a cruel and evil piece of shit but to him, its just another day in the wild west of the tahtuuin wasteland, the world is called tahtuu so tahtuuin is the right way to say it right?

anyway, more pages here: http://fates.thecomicseries.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BaqXwVaYlc
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>>77496502

fug, i just proof read the dialog i forgot i changed the card name to lady of the violin, glad i caught that shit before posting it everywhere, holy fuck!
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>>77496514

im just copy and pasting the dialog out of the 10 page script I wrote for this chapter onto sketchbook pro, a pretty nice shortcut but then shit like this happens, but its an easy fix so its no big deal i guess...
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>>77496502
Retarded and gay
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>>77498061

dont pretend like you dont like it anon
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how easy is to ink in paper then get clean lines when scanning.

I don't want to digitally ink tbqh.
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>>77498605

Depends. Usually you can fuck around with the contrast and some other options to make the blacks bolder, and make any pencil stuff fade out.
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>>77498737
I was reading david revoy blog and he uses red or blue pencil and generally use photoshop as to remove the pencil with good results.

just like a photocopy machine will not pickup the blue pencil.
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>>77498770

A lot of people actually do use blue. I imagine that might actually be easier, because you can probably just make the blues disappear, or whatever.

It can be a little harder with actual pencil, depending on how dark you did your sketching. Plus, erasing the underlying pencil can sometimes cause the inks to fade a little.
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>>77498925
yup, is easier to make a blue pencil dissapear than if you were using a normal pencil.
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>>77491630
He believes while heartedly in communism. He's a simple country farmer defending his home from the Nazis. What he doesn't suspect is the cruelty and corruption of the SOVIETS.
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>>77498957
i've always wondered why cartoonist/artist used specifically blue pencils for their sketching
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>>77499164
Technically they use a blue that's no-repro, it doesn't show up on scans or photocopies. But many use blue because it makes the actual lines that you draw on top of it more readable.
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>>77499399

Also, a lot of paper specifically set up for comic parameters (like where the bleed zones, and the print cutoff margins and whatnot) are done in blue as well.
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>>77494155
I wish I know that myself... not that I'd often have time, but someday

>>77479711
Sucks dude, happened to a friend of mine too.
If you ever get famous it'll sell for a fair bit

Anyhow, we interrupt dialogue that might or might not be relevant to the main plot with a big fish monster!
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>>77500712
Aaaand the new page for this week.
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>>77492799
*bluh*

Morning doodles.
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>>77501192
You're dangerously close to giving me an elf ear fetish.

I also did some doodles this morning, though I did it in my notebook when I was supposed to be listening to a professor. Call it early character design. This is the first time I've really used the construction method where you draw out primitive shapes and build on them. Always kind of thought real artists didn't do that and it only showed up in How Do Draw Pokemon books and the like. I really like it actually.

Apologies for the shit quality camera-phone picture.
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>>77498770
yeah and when i work digitally i sketch in blue for that reason. well, at first my eyes were so fucked up the blue was genuinely hard to see and thus easy to trace over, but now it's visible but still easy to ignore when contrasted with black. i think it's something to do with wavelengths. red short-wave light like, doesn't dazzle you in the dark, so that's why it's on old clocks and car displays.. it's sensible.. but people like blue better.. and blue's better in a lit place for not sticking out too much
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>>77500723
oh crazy anachronistic fantasy worlds. i love you so.
his tibiae seem to be kinda abbreviated in that last panel though, gotta have the artist keep an eye on that. it's a common stnank drawing digitigrade critters
>>77501192
l-lewd -'.'-
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>>77501350
i know right? it feels so dumb when youve trained yourself in drawing shapes, and telling yourself eventually you'll learn every angle of every shape without having to construct, but once you start...
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>>77502131
I literally thought it was just stuff they did to make drawing simpler for kids who didn't want to become artists.
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Speaking of blue lead, does anyone know a brand of 0.5 blue leads that doesn't break easily? All I've tried are absurdly frail
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>>77501350
Don't practice front / side shots, practice in a 3/4 view
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>>77502304
oh yeah there's that too. desu that is still a thing, but you'll recognize it by shapes being described as being like other shapes. like a kid would need to hear like 'it's like an apple slice with a bite taken out of it' to be able to do that or something
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any good software to write the plot outside simple word processors?

I love celtix but they become an online app (shit).
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>>77502315
try a normal pencil.

>broke
just draw lightly, it seems you're using too much force.
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>>77502330
That's the little one on the right.
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>>77502472
I do, and I do.

I usually draw with Staedtler 6B leadholder leads which are very frail and I rarely break them.

0.5 blue leads being fragile to the point of uselessness is a very common complaint, which is why I use 0.7 for blue. The Staedtler 0.5 are simply unusable, sometimes they break from the mechanic action of the pencil itself.
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>>77502580
I dunno, I have the same problem but I've just gotten used to it I think.

I just simply replace the broken mine with a newer one.
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>>77502450
What do you mean by "simple" word processors? You pretty much have to use one.

Anyway I liked the minimalistic softwares like FocusWriter or Q10 that is good for focusing and getting the wordcount down.

For script writing I used Trelby, it takes a little learning but it's great once you've got the shortcuts memorized.

This was all a while ago, so I don't know if these have died. They're all free/opensource
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>>77502450
You can't download Celtx anymore? When I got a new PC 9 months ago I had to redownload it and the download link was super-hidden inside their website but still accessible. Did they get rid of it?
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>>77502751
dunno, something specialized on writing a novel or a script rather than a word processor.

>>77502781
ok, will try to download it then.
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>>77502815
You definitely have to make an account and log in to find it and I remember it was a pain in the ass finding it but it was there at least in February.
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>>77502815
>dunno, something specialized on writing a novel or a script rather than a word processor.
Those are designed for creative writing so check 'em out, they're free and IIRC you can even try them as standalone so you don't have to install anything.
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>>77502839
trelby seems like another celtix clone.
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>>77482860
Seems like a good a time as any to show off.

This is the protagonist of my current project (left), alongside one of the secondary characters. The story is about a witch (see pic related) going on various misadventures in Civil-War era America. All the while the losing Confederate government is trying to recruit her in a last-ditch effort to turn the war in their favor.

I envision a lot of stand-alone storylines that sort of push that broader narrative. It mixes elements from the American western and various pieces of folklore that interest me.
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This thread is deader than I thought it'd be. Quick, someone say something controversial!
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>>77506325
Uh...uhh.....TUMBLR. I'M HOSTING MY COMIC ON TUMBLR AND I'M GONNA DO THE NOSE THING.
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>>77506325
alright... but this is kinda uncomfortable
i'm.. against.. all those things everybody hates!
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>>77506325
let's talk about how do we market our comics and make money off them.

It's tumblr a good place to upload my comics?
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>>77506496
Not if you want to make money off it.
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>>77506713
how bout becoming popular then.
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>>77506765
You have to advertise effectively and you have to put out a product that a lot of people in your target demographic will come back to read. Basically it's 85% luck, and actual quality of your comic doesn't matter. I'd like to think it matters, but it doesn't.
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>>77506366
you BASTARD
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I'm LATE dammit.
Anyway here's half of the stuff I'll upload tomorrow early. The other page introduces a new character whose clothes forced me to study drapery all over again.
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>>77507041
so grungy and techy!
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AWESOME! Where did you get the reference from?
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