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THE FLASH POST EPISODE THREAD #1: Zoom's A Big Guy Edition
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Next Episode: Gorilla Warfare (November 17, 2015)

>Grodd returns to Central City and kidnaps Caitlin. Barry and team race to find her before it’s too late. Meanwhile, Cisco plans his first date with the new barista at Jitters, Kendra Saunders (Ciara Renée) and Patty begins to suspect Barry is hiding something from her.

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Previous Thread: >>77375790
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rate episode

http://strawpoll.me/5976217
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2nd for good vibes
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>yfw when Zoom catches lightning bolt
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THE FLASH NEEDS A BIGGER BUDGET
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>>77377758
That's what she said.
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>>77377722
And remember Earth-1 Harrison's lawyer mentioning how something would happen after Barry viewed that video confession? That's gonna bite him in the ass.
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General reminder that Barry is motherfucking Kikaider now.
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>post yfw Zoom broke The flash
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The episode was full of Barry getting BTFO'd
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We need a comparison of webms

RF beatdown on Flash

vs

Zoom beatdown on Flash

Also holy shit it just dawned on me Barry is still fucking slow, he never actually surpassed RF
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>>77377758
We need to make rich friends, get them into comics, and make them have their parents give them money
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>>77377741
>Yfw Zoom combos Barry into a back-breaker
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>>77377758
I thought the Barry/Zoom fight actually looked really good for the typical CW budget. The lightning was a little cheesy but that was pretty much it, and it was still badass as fuck anyway.
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How come they did Zoom so well at being such a menacing big bad and yet Damian Dark sucks?
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>>77377796
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>first 80% of the episode
>typical drama stuff yadda yadda, patty being cute, sure, haha funny training montage and fake Dr. Light scene ...
>suddenly BARRY GETTING HIS ASS BEAT AND ZOOM MAKING THE ENTIRE CITY HIS BITCH for last 10 minutes

Amazing work with the contrast
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>>77377741
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>mfw Zoom isn't really Tony Todd.

Would anyone mind, really?
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>>77377798
That cgi actually looks fantastic.
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How can Zoom run up buildings? Can he do that in the comics?
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>>77377660
First for wanting pics of Lindas fat ass
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>>77377842
Going into the Light fakeout with 20 minutes left had a feeling that something big was going to happen.
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>>77377842
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>>77377825
Darhk is intimidating by presence. The mystical powers also helps too, but he's mostly just charming
Zoom is just fucking terrifying in both presence and ability
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>>77377823
I mean, more money, so we can have more good fights, this oнe shits all over the fights we got in season 1, even tho it was one sided.
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>>77377860
>everyone spends half a year theorizing who it is
>decent theories all around
>most of them are believable
>it's literally just Candyman with Speedforce
Jesus christ, how horrifying.
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Earth 2 Thawne vs Zoom: Battle of the Reverse Flashes. I NEED IT.
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Zoom is the New Bane.I thought it was a coincidence that his face resembles Banes's mask from the DKR but it was actually foreshadowing.
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>>77377807
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>>77377660
Does it impress anyone else how Zoom is the most terrifying live-action supervillain?

I'm more of a Marvel fan, but I'm really impressed how they made him into this unstoppable force + living nightmare wrapped up in blue lightning.

Only Darren Cross in Ant-Man made me uncomfortable in that scene in Cassie's bedroom.
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>>77377798
>Zoom just dragging Barry around town like a ragdoll to gloat about his victory
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>>77377798
Lightning Returns.webm
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why do they only fight at night?
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Scary Zoom fan art when?
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Will Zoom posting replace Bane posting as a meme?
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>>77377938
>>77377973
stop that
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>>77377965
So you can see the Lightning better.
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>>77377967
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>>77377965
CGI is cheaper
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>>77377801
>Also holy shit it just dawned on me Barry is still fucking slow, he never actually surpassed RF
To be fair, Barry was up against someone who leeches off his speed. The more he expends, the stronger Eobard-Wells became.
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Reminder
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Barry did say he wouldn't run away anymore
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>>77377929
Turn out he is Henry Allen on Earth 2,actually killed his wife
His son Barry was taken in by his white cop friend
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>>77377973
Great bait meme material
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>>77377825
Zoom
>carries the biggest hero around town broken and beaten and parades him in front of everyone

Darhk
>walks into city hall "lol your city sucks and you should let it die that's totally reasonable right"

Zoom
>creepy melted costumed and blue lightning with super speed he uses without holding back and also can steal speedforce

Darhk
>generic guy in a suit who has some vague Magneto powers and life stealing maybe who fucking knows

You can see why the metas would be terrified to fail Zoom's task. On Arrow the show tries a few times to make Darhk intimidating but it doesn't work.

Nothing against Darhk's actor he's fun. Traitor though
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>>77377960
>Gloats to the news so the whole city, hell, the whole world can see
>Gloats to his family
>Gloats to his friends
Villain of the year
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>>77378001
Jesus Fucking Christ, this is something i would hate to see at night
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>>77378001
FUCKING SAVED. THANK YOU
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>>77378004
Didn't you get the memo? Zoom is Inazuman.
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>>77377929
Heh, that IS pretty scary.

Imagine that voice whispering in the dark as it tells you that it's gonna kill your girlfriend, your co-workers, your neighbors, and even the postman. Why? Because it can and there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop or even anticipate Zoom from carrying it out.
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Did I miss anything in a flashback? i saw"ROBERT QUEEN IS THE HOOD" but i missed anything before then.
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is there any doubt now on who the best girl is?
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>>77377801
clearly they need to go to e2, find zoom's ancestor and kill that guy
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>>77378006
I don't think he literally meant that.
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>>77377973
ZOOM? Doesn't sound as good
>>77377960
Reminded me of Achilles dragging Hector's dead body around in the Iliad. Weird connection, I know, but I can't get that image out of my head now.
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Can I get the odds on Patti breaking up with Barry because everyone else knows he's the Flash but not her?
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>>77378063
Linda is best girl, fuck Patty
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>>77378057
Nope, that and Jessie Quick are pretty much the only important shit to take from the E2 Flashbacks so far.
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>>77378063
Wally is going to marry Earth-2 Linda.
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>>77378018
I wonder how Ra's and Darhk would react to Zoom? He's completely above and beyond their usual pay grade. Even with all that mystical shit they've encountered, he's dangerous as fuck.
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>>77378085
>Can I get the odds on Patti breaking up with Barry
100%
>because everyone else knows he's the Flash but not her?
Heh, about 60% for that reason
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>>77378063
Hawkgirl > Patty > Caitlin > Iris >>>>>> Linda
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>>77378085
Maybe she should be a detective and investigate that shit
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>>77378085
she literally just met him so it'd be weird for her to get super mad about it.

iris had more reason to be mad when they're practically family and best friends
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>>77377798
Looking back that was a stupid thing to try against another speedster. Even a scrub Barry much slower than RF can dodge lightning in season 1 and he tries it on a literal speed demon
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>>77378063
No doubt
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>>77378085
>its the 'Iris finds out' plot all over again
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>>77378085
Naw. Barry lied about being blind on their date and Patty didn't once throw a shit fit.
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>>77378081
Nah, I can see that too.

It's gloating over your defeated enemy and letting the whole world know who owned him.
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>>77378087

She's just CopFelicity. She's better than Felicity herself but Linda's was great during season 1, and now she's part of the team. She's gonna meet Wally soon. A relationship I care about is going to get attention...
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>>77378120
Darhk would try to reason/bargain with Zoom and totally fail

Ra's would try to make him become his heir
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>>77378063
She was always best girl
post more linda booty
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>>77378023
>whole world
I wonder how many vigilantes thought "Glad that aint me"
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>>77378033
>Candyman voice
>Pitch black eyes
>Melted suit
>Unstable blue lightning speed-force
>Demonic everything
Zoom is the result of what happens when nightmares become reality
Hell, Zoom could be anything. He's the monster in your closet, the monster under the bed, the weird scraping coming from the attic, the creeking in the bacement
Remember that traumatic experience as a child and yousaw something really fucking scary? Or that time you felt like you were being watched? Or when you watched that creepy movie as a kid and coudn
't sleep because you swore there was something in the room with you?
Zoom. Zoom is everything. Zoom is everywhere. The raisin E2 heroes and villains fear him is because he's everyone's nightmare. That one scary nightmare you had which woke you up and you never forgot it? That was Zoom
Zoom is fear. Zoom is all. Zoom is forever
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>tfw DCEU's Reverse Flash is going to be shit tier compared to either CW Wells or Zoom
>tfw DC will probably do something retarded like cancelling CW The Flash because they think their audience consists of a bunch of mouth breathers who won't understand why there are two Flashs
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Calling it, season 3 villain is Mirror Master
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>>77378167
>and now she's part of the team

Bro she left town

>just CopFelicity
How fucking dare you
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>>77378202
yes please do
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>>77378150
Remember Blackout? Barry could dodge his lightning so he should've thought twice about using a tactic like that against a speedster.
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>>77378001

HOLY SHIT

I still remember when /co/ was pissing their pants over RF
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>>77378120
Compared to Zoom those guys are Bush league.
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>>77377785
Yeah, Star Labs would be transferred to him
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>>77378213
That's one reason I'm loving Zoom right now. Sure, he has the same mystery about who he is and what his motivations are like every other character in this show but he comes off like a horror movie villain. He's just fucking ruthless and scary, I love it.
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I would be totally fine if film Flash faces a speed force demon like Zoom
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>>77378236
All I got
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>>77378220

I still contest that this is why they suddenly started revoking characters.

They were announced as separate so the TV show and the movies could use the same characters with no fear and then mouthbreathers complained that it would be confusing and that Marvel's shows being part of the movie universe was better and low and behold we lose Deadshot and the squad...
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>>77378150
Barry had Wells telling him that he could wreck Zoom's shit and hyping him up as so much better than Jay, he probably expected an easier fight.
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>>77378254
>leaving your lab to your nemesis
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>>77378085

Nigga she already knows.

She's been dropping hints since the first time her character showed up. Not only that, but it was very obvious this episode that she knows with pestering Joe about telling her everything, Barry having to "go do stuff" in the same way Joe went to deal with Light, etc etc.
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>>77378225
They said the Rogues are gonna be the big villains for Season 3. I hope the rest like Abra Kadabra and especially The Top join. The Top can actually move at speeds that even Barry was wary of tangling with.
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>>77378231

She'll be back soon enough.

And what's wrong? Can't handle the truth?
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>>77378250
>>77378194

I feel everyone is seriously underestimating Darhk

Zoom might have the speedforce but we don't know what Darhk's magic is fully capable of. I'm sure he'd have a trick up his sleeve to counter Zoom's speed
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Post your face if Zoom would have used barry's body to stop the bullets instead of catching them
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Why don't they just ask Gideon (RF's robot computer) on what to do, and how to beat zoom and walk again or something.
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>>77378311
>the truth
>she acts nothing like Felicity at all

Stop baitin m8
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>>77378220
>they go with daniel west
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>>77377801
>he never actually surpassed RF
Shit, you're right, it took Ollie and Ronnie being there to help him take him down and if it wasn't for Eddie commiting suicide everyone else would have gotten killed by Eobard.
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>>77378269
honestly im kind of hoping zoom isn't a doppleganger now. he's just a regular guy who went insane from being turned into a meta-human and became an absolute monster as a result.

i'm sure he is a doppleganger, but it would be cool to play on expectations and not go that route. show it could happen to even the most ordinary person.
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>>77378316
This is true. The fact that Constantine is in CWDC indicates that we're gonna some truly horrific magic in the upcoming season.
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RF or Zoom, whos your favorite evil speedster?
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>>77378247
>RF's suit is starting to turn black and burned due to speedforce use
>Zoom's suit just melted on him due to heavy speedforce use
Y'know, the speedforce is really unsafe
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>>77378342
gideon is assumed destroyed because she was probably attached to eobard's suit again when he was leaving.
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>>77378316
Well sure they can still make Darhk into something cool but so far he pales in comparison to what one episode of Flash showed us of Zoom
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I want to jump on Tom Cavanagh's bones. That is all.
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MY NAME
IS HARRISON WELLS
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>>77378389
Reverse Flash
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>>77378220
desu, by the time the movie comes out Wally will probably be made the new flash, they wouldn't cancel the show, especially if it keeps up the ratings
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>>77378354
I agree, not everything has to be some. Shamalamadingdong twist.
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>>77378305
They'll probably call him Turbine
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Zoom is just downright terrifying
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>>77378220
But there are a bunch of mouth breathers who already think people are gonna get confused by Gustin and Miller being the same character. There are always gonna be those people.

Just shut up about it fucking enjoy the insanity you're getting right now.
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>>77378389
RF is still my favorite because Cavanagh and Letscher's brief performance really made me like a character that I never gave a shit about in the comics (aside from Return of Barry Allen)

They really nailed Zoom as a huge threat in his first outing though
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>>77378389
Reverse Flash just because he's an asshole
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>>77378343

She's Felicity as a cop and with no tech skills.

Quirky and awkward in the way she talks, love interest of the main character, cute blonde girl. Wasn't it even in her casting call?

You gotta wake up and smell the roses buddy. She's a felicity clone.
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>>77378354
I expect Zoom to be Eddie or an evil version of Barry.Although him being an unknown who went mad with power is a much better idea.
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>>77378431
>Joe shaking in fear/anger

Joe is best
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>>77377738
>http://strawpoll.me/5976217
Zoom/10

What a shame it's not an option.
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>>77378423
They've embraced the spirit of the comics so far. We have Gorilla Grodd and King Shark. Pied Piper and The Trickster. They're definitely gonna call him The Top and they're gonna make him dangerous as fuck.
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>>77378423
2 completely different people tho
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>Kidnapped his old girl
>Bitched him out in front of his new girl
>Bitched him out in front of his future girl

Zoom too good.
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>>77378455
>this low quality b8

C'mon man you can try harder. They don't act the same at all.
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>>77378392
Does Zoom ever take off his suit? What if he needs to take a piss?
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>>77378389
I prefer Reverse Flash.
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>>77378529
He pees so fast it goes through through his suit like when Barry ran through that van in S1
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>>77378389
RF definitely has the better IT WAS ME BARRY vibe, but Zoom is definitely the scariest and most threatening villain so far on the show. I don't really know who I like more, I'll have to wait until we know more about him.

>laugh at how silly Zoom looks in the preview images
>mfw THE CRACK
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>>77378389
Honestly Zoom. RF had some great moments like him brutally icing those guards but I more just enjoyed Cavanagh being a smug bastard as Wells. Plus the final fight with RF was kinda lame, nowhere near as good as the midseason one.

Zoom, however, has been so goddamn scary and brutal and Tony Todd's voice is pure sex. God I hope CW doesn't fuck this up.
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Holy fuck. Just finished the episode.

Holy fucking fuck. This was great.

>all the fun times of Linda learning to be Doctor Light
>all that hubris from Barry and the team, thinking they *seriously* had a chance against someone who bested the smartest Flash
>Zoom blowing Barry the absolute fuck out
>Barry becoming comics Zoom

Like, holy shit. 10/10 episode, to be quite honest.
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>>77378529
He vibrates it out as a fine mist
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>>77378479
I thought turbine was essentially new 52 version of top? I'm fine with the top name but I could also see them switching it up
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>>77378389
Zoom, the comics one
Always thought he was a fucking great villain
From the Tv show, RF
Zoom is terrifying, but he still has to make me stop loving Eobard Wells
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>>77378167
>She's just CopFelicity.
She's more like female Eddie with Barry on the side.

She's perfect.
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This show is living proof that TV is now the superior medium for live-action superheroes. You can't have this kind of storytelling in a movie that's 2-3 hours.

Flash and Daredevil are my favorite live-action comic shows. I don't care about films anymore.
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>>77378489
>Destroys Barry in front of his friends
>Parades him around the city
>Shows his victory off to the world via the press
>Shows his victory off to the cops, showing that they're not inferior
>Proceeds to piss on his friends again by going bat to STAR Labs
Zoom for Mayor
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>>77378616
>female Eddie

Literal perfection
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>>77378616
Don't engage those guys
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>>77378616
In that case I hope she kills herself too
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>>77378354

It's going to be Henry. The writing is clear as day;

>He exits the show in episode one/two so the audience "forgets" about him
>It would be the perfect parallel from season one; his Flash-dad turned out to be a psychopathic murderer and his Earth-2-Prison-Dad doppleganger turns out to be a psychopathic murder giving him even MORE pappy issues
>They already made the parallel with Robert Queen being The Arrow in Earth-2, so it stands to reason that Henry Allen of Earth-2 will be of significance.

Grant Gustin doesn't have the ability to play a menacing evil character like Zoom unmasked, but John Wesley Shipp sure as fuck could.
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>>77378477

When is Piper coming back? Is he coming back? I worry he won't there's so much happening this season...
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>>77378624
The movies can still be great and use 2 hours well. For every mess like Week of Ultron we get a Winter Soldier. More episodes can definitely be used well but sometimes that just means filler.
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ReverseBluePower are you here? Going to clock out soon I think.
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>>77378626
Zoom vs Oliver Queen for mayor of your city.
Who do you vote for??
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>>77378648
Probably next season when the Rogues are finally formalized.

I do wonder if Cold and Heatwave are part of them? They are gonna be in Legends of Tomorrow and stopping Vandal Savage.

I'd prefer if they were still crooks, but not vicious killers. That's what makes the Rogues so memorable as villains. They actually have an honor code.
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>>77378624
I still stand by my notion that this is the reason the Fantastic 4 movies have all failed, they're just more well suited to multiple stories across episodes.
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>>77378673
He said he had Uni work to do, clocked out last thread
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>>77378682
Zoom
Because he knows who's voting
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>>77378647
It's interesting how a Flash adaptation can be darker than anything in Batman and Superman. I mean, just look at what you've written. That's a greater mind-fuck than anything in comic book movies.
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>>77378691
They're well suited to actually doing something enjoyable and fun with the team instead of making 2 generic cheese-fests and 1 retarded grim dark shit that ignores everything about the FF that people like
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Alright guys I'm gone for this week, will deliver webms as per usual in next week's thread.

>>77378694
fuck I have uni work to do too
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Right now it's 5 in the morning here.
Those couple of hours are just full of hype here.
I'll go to sleep since I'm tired.
Wake-up tomorrow, Win-O-Thread. New comics.
I love those 2 days and I love ya Flash thread anons.
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Grodd is back my friends. All hail Grodd!
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>>77378431
I practically heard the HINJAKU HINJAKU.
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>>77378664
I enjoyed Winter Soldier and Ant-Man immensely. They're probably my 2 favorite MCU films, but the Flash and Daredevil are just head and shoulders above them. The fact that we get 10+ hours of material to see characters fleshed-out and conflicts to be developed is more of a treat than any big-budget blockbuster.
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>>77378753
He saw the camera recording him and didn't like it
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>>77378747
Me too
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>>77378647

But gosh. He played a menacing villain before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrlVkfwZ1Yk

Nothing more menacing than a sassy gay
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>>77378771
Ehhh. I like the Flash but there's filler, some silly drama moments, etc. You kind of forgot them over the course of a whole season but they're there. Whereas a 2 hour movie, if done right, is no filler and well-paced from start to finish.
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>>77378601
From what I remeber Turbine is a tuskegee airman that got sucked into the speedfroce and has been living in it for 50/60 years and was eventually saved by Barry, has problems adjusting to the time and has speedforce powers mostly related to speeding him shen he spins
Real different from Top
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>>77378608
Zoom is good like Comic Eobard is good, he makes you have a good time because he's an evil SOB and he just makes beating on the hero very enjoyable.

Wellsobard is a more sympathetic character and although he was an unhinged killer with no problems about killing others if it meant he went back home, he still showed that he cared for people and wasn't out to be a jackass.

Also Cavanagh is just great, I love him.
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>>77378795
I don't mind filler and even the CW-level drama. It's refreshing to see a superhero actually chill out once in a while and not always be concerned about the upcoming battle.

I'm still gonna watch the Doctor Strange, Aquaman, and Inhumans movies, but not in theaters. I'm just gonna wait until they're on cable.
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>>77378838
Whatever floats your boat. I see the benefit in both mediums. The TV shows are fun but it's awesome to sit down and watch a 2 hour spectacle when it's done right like Ant-Man and Winter Soldier. It's like a big event compared to the regular series of a show.
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>>77378799
>>77378601

There are now two New 52 Tops. There's Turbine, and that kid Roscoe Dillon who's been hanging out with Professor Zoom.
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>>77378880

I really need to catch up on new52 Flash... I just have to hope someone posts it in the win-o-thread I don't want to support a bad run...
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>>77378867
>It's like a big event compared to the regular series of a show.
You hit it on the nail.

I prefer the monthly issue format compared to the big event. It's a reaction to all the shit that Marvel's churned out in the past decade.

Like I said, I'm still gonna watch comic movies, but they're not top priority. I want to sit back and enjoy things instead of the quick hit of a summer blockbuster.
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>>77377660
>Mfw Zoom dragged Barry around town
Seriously Zoom is a fantastic villain, hope they can keep this quality up.
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>>77378647
The Robert Queen thing is very obviously a Batman parallel, with Thomas Wayne of Earth-2 being Batman in the comics.
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>>77378771
>>77378664
>>77378624
I think it might depend on the character. Captain America feels more suited to a big screen, 2 hour adventure to me (admittedly, without a ton of knowledge of his comics). Superman probably does better in that format too (assuming a good movie, anyway) instead of a weekly series. But other characters? Absolutely better off with a weekly. It kills me that we're going to be stuck with another goddamn Spider-man movie reboot when he is absolutely the perfect TV superhero.
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>>77378960
It's agonizing that we'll never see Earth-2's storyline. That world looks fascinating as fuck. The retro look as well as their pantheon of villains and heroes.
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>>77378994
agreed.

there are very few characters who could work both as a big budget movie and as a long term show. Spider-Man and Batman are two of those characters for sure.
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>>77378922
Nu52 Flash is bad
Like, it was good, not amazing, good, but when Venditti picked it up, it went totally to shit
And the art, holy shit the art is so bad, so bad
They could've at least kept Capullo on, his art was so fluid, it really worked well with the Flash
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The truth about Zoom:
Actually Earth-2 Grodd. When that mask comes off expect some Dr. Zaius looking goon.
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>>77378205
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>>77378994
>Captain America feels more suited to a big screen, 2 hour adventure to me (admittedly, without a ton of knowledge of his comics).
I can see an argument for that. Though seeing Cap try and assimilate to 21st century USA would be great to see on a weekly basis. His frustrations and inability to relate to contemporary pop culture. Everybody he knows is dead or senile.

>Superman probably does better in that format too (assuming a good movie, anyway) instead of a weekly series.
Lois & Clark did a good job as a weekly series. Dean Cain did a great job in depicting the human side of Superman and invoking his virtues. Even the 80's Superboy was fun as fuck.
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>>77379002
I want to see what E2 Barry is up to
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>>77379038
Manapul, not Capullo anon.

though i would love capullo on flash, but he's on break from monthlies after batman 50
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>>77378220
people already confused about bale batman and ben afflecky
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I liked the rest of the fight but I flipped out at
>Never forget...I...AM THE FASTEST MAN ALIVE
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>>77379054
I wonder how Team Arrow reacts to Barry getting BTFO?!

Oliver will understand why Barry didn't make it to that unknown person's funeral since he's aware of how dangerous Zoom is.
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So how is Zoom so damn fast /co/? He's way faster than Jay even though they've had their powers for the same amount of time, so what gives? Were there other speedsters he fed off of?
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>>77379086
they're too busy saving ray
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>>77378389
Hello new lock screen
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>>77379064
In prison. Remember those random glimpses we saw at the end of Season 1? Earth-2 Barry is probably behind bars because his dad framed him for Earth-2 Nora's murder.
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>>77379057
>Though seeing Cap try and assimilate to 21st century USA would be great to see on a weekly basis
Nah, that would get real old real fast
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>>77379066
Yeah, got it wrong, always get their names messed up for some reason
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>>77378356
Hardly. Just because Constantine showed up doesn't mean Arrow's suddenly going to turn as dark as his show.
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>>77378220
I'm doubtful they'll cancel it; they didn't cancel Smallville when Superman Returns came up.

Just didn't let them use Batman because of the Nolan films or Wonder Woman because ?
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>>77379121
Ever seen Fox's Sleepy Hollow? It can be a blast to see if handled properly.
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>>77379140
Clark wasn't allowed to be Superman in Smallville. And they held to that to a ridiculous degree.
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>>77379140

They basically want the trinity to stand on their own and not be reduced to rating grab cameos or supplemental secondary characters in live action. It's reasonable but when fans want them to appear I think throwing a bone out there every now and then is fine.
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>>77378647
I am thinking about JWS or either Cosnett being Zoom, like you said the show made that abrupt exit for Henry and Eddie keeps getting brought back in conversations so the show isn't letting us forget about him (and that's usually a sign that the show is not done with a character).

That said Cosnett said he is still going to be involved with The Flash although he hasn't said in what capacity since he himself is still on the dark.

So far only Berlanti, Kriesberg whoever is on the writing team and Cavanagh know who Zoom is.
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>Linda finds out Barry was keeping the fact he was the Flash a secret from her
>Her response wasn't to immediately disown him and storm out
Holy shit, am I still watching the CW?
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>>77378335
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>All these theories about Henry Allen being Zoom
It's funny, Because JWS voiced Professor Zoom on Batman: The Brave and The Bold
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>>77379363
That's probably 2/3rds of the reason people are attached to that theory.
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>>77379094
>Were there other speedsters he fed off of?

I think that's implied, yes. Jay seems to know about it.
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>>77378431
Then he still ends up getting shot, 3rd times the charm!
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>>77379350
Fug. I don't like seeing Barry upset
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>>77379327
>made out with the flash
Made me smile
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>>77379419
>yfw zoom has fed off of e2 eobard and got his power to absorb speedforce from him
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it's some voice shit right?
http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/5/50/Nstalk_death_08.mp3
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>>77379419
>maybe the fastest speedster of all
Actually looking back that does kinda sound like Jay knew other speedsters
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>>77379419
Maybe he was going from Earth to Earth killing Flashes and assimilating their speed.
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>>77377660
Okay so Grodd returns and Barry is disabled. That means Hawkgirl is going to face off against Grodd, right?
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>>77377660
Holy Shit, Just saw the episode and I was ready to right it off as filler and set-up for the next episode, even started playing on my phone.

THEN BOOM WE GOT MOTHER FUCKIN ZOOM

Who knew an episode could totally go from shit to GOAT in 5 min.

Also, I totally want Linda to get those gloves back, now that she defied expectations and survived the episode.
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>>77379327
>Iris finds out her dad lied to her her whole life and her mom's actually alive
>Her response wasn't to immediately disown him and storm out
>Iris finds out Barry has a date with Patty
>Actually encourages him to go
>Which leads to Barry having a LITERAL blind date
>Which somehow goes over really well

It's like CW's going out of their way to make me dread cringe drama and then go "nah just kidding!"
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>>77379644
They learned from their mistakes, an admirable trait in a company
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>>77379644
she found out more information about her that confirmed joe's need to not mention her
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>>77379539
>>77379539
That's my theory.
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Honestly I thought this episode was slow for the most part because of the whole Linda scheme, but it just jumped up to 9/10 when Zoom showed up.

Fastest big guy alive
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>>77379400
It's a much better theory than Zoom being E2 Barry
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Somebody please make a meme with Zoom saying: "You know what they say. Once you go black you'll need a wheel chair".
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>>77379706
For Barry
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>>77379770
>I can't feel my legs
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>tfw Flash and Arrow are both fucking amazing right now

I can wait for the crossover.
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>>77378529
BARRY I'M PISS
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>>77379807
Eh, Arrow still needs a real highpoint for me to get hyped about again. No, a glorified cameo does not mean Arrow is suddenly redeemed, guys.
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But I think my favorite part of this episode is that it played with our emotions so well.

We figured it would be a Season 1 Reverse-Flash type of episode, where Eobard or a meta chooses not to go all out. But Jay was right: you come at the king, you best not miss. And, of course, we see that the Flash team's nonchalance towards Zoom almost kills and literally cripples Barry.

Sure, they know he's big, bad, and dangerous, but Barry's successfully dealt with that before, right? Nope. Zoom is a completely different thing, who's not afraid to even ruin The Flash's rep while whooping him.

>>77379807
/co/ probably heavily disagrees with you, but I'm definitely in concurrence.

Although, it's *kinda* troubling that there are probably going to be a bunch of crossovers this season. But assuming all things go well, it might be GOAT.
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Anyone else think Zoom should be way faster? Like blink and he can kill you in 52 different ways. I mean sure, he looks menacing, and he did just fuck up Barry's shit, but I just don't feel the threat like Eobard had.
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>>77378431

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdoFkxJEojI
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>>77379862
As much as I am liking the new season it all just seems to be setting up Legends Of Tomorrow. We need a big battle which might happen given the description of next episode.
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Just finished watching the episode. I thought Zoom was going to kill Barry and they'd continue the show with Earth-2's Barry. I haven't read the comics so how does Barry get his powers back?
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I just realized. Remember they were like MAX VELOCITY and in the air and shit? Now remember the Great Brain Robbery when they turn off the gravity in the watch tower. Zoom was totes just playing around with Barry.
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>>77379984
I don't think that has ever happened in the comics. Barry never fought Zoom, only Professor Zoom. He did very briefly encounter Zolomon during Rogue War but they didn't really do much.
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>>77378431
I still don't get how cathing a bullet stops it?

>I am so fast I can put my hand in front of a speeding bullet.
>Shit it went through my hand.
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>>77379984
He still has his powers for some reason, so he's not going to get them back cause he never lost them. MEANWHILE FUCKING FARRUQ CAN TAKE AWAY BARRYS POWERS FOR GOOD
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>>77379905

I dunno about a bunch. Episode 8 is now the official crossover episode every year, and I'm sure we'll get another Felicity solo-crossover.

I think Flash'll tone it back this season though since it's more established this year so there's no need to hype up small cameos like they'll be huge deals.

I would kind of like to see something like a sidekick team up episode but Barry doesn't have one at the moment... Speedy/Wally team up episode would be great.
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>>77379984
>I thought Zoom was going to kill Barry and they'd continue the show with Earth-2's Barry

Retarded desu
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>>77378529
He just vibrates his dick and pisses so that it is super heated on the way out of his cock thus evaporating.
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If they can come up with all of these death rays, then why don't they just equip Barry with a bunch of them? Kind of like a powered armor version of the Flash.
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>>77380028
He's not putting his hand in front of the bullet, he's plucking it out of the air while it's frozen or slowed relative to him

Plus these guys are clearly tougher than normal given how they're fucking walling from the sky at terminal velocity and just bouncing back
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>>77380028
Imagine the bullet is going lets say 200 mph. Zoom or Barry speeds up their hand to vibrating 200 mph, now the bullet is going literally the same speed as his hand. So its like anything around you is going the same "speed" as you are. Thats why you're able to pick up a pillow or a TV remote. Thats whats happening but with bullets.

I don't know how fast bullets go.
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>POST YFW NAKED INVISIBLE E2 LINDA IS STILL OUT THERE SOMEWHERE.
SHE MIGHT EVEN BE BEHIND YOU WATCHING.
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>>77380120
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>>77380120
How can we find her? Do we have booty detecting meters?
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>>77380100
Okay google tells me the average bullet moves at 1,700 mph. So Barry is so full of shit being able to catch and dodge bullets all the time, but then get the life murdered out of his spine by zoom.
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>>77377741
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>Zoom didn't recognize Barry

So, its safe to say that Zoom isn't Barry's dad
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I didn't think they could top / make a villain scarier than RF. Nevermind.
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How many red flags were going off for you when Barry kept going to Patty and talking about how much he wanted to be with her? Seriously, she's like a cop version of Felicity.
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>>77380120
>ywn accidentially hold hands with a naked invisible E2 Linda
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>>77380185
Zoom is a speed demon, speed is force, the hand that hit his spine was going unimaginably fast.
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>>77380218
Unless Barry died when he was 10.
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>>77380218
Or possibly the Henry on that Earth did kill Barry's mom and maybe even Barry too?
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>>77380218
What? If he was Barry's dad he already knew he he was
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>>77378409
And Im smugest man alive
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>>77380227
>she's like a cop version of Felicity.

Is this the beginning of an epic new meme?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aetmVJNf7pU
nest week bitches patty is SO CUTE I LOVE HER
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>>77378161
>>>77378085
>Naw. Barry lied about being blind on their date and Patty didn't once throw a shit fit.
Pretending not to be blind on a date

Keeping a secret like being THE FLASH

How is this comparable situations
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>>77380274

>Beginning

we've been saying it for weeks.
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Did anyone else notice how TVs on earth 2 are longscreen not widescreen
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>>77378225
>Calling it, season 3 villain is Mirror Master
Only if they get Laurel's dad again
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>>77380306
To me, you've been saying it for centuries.
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>>77380304
Linda took it okay. He didn't rape somebody, he is a fucking superhero. The correct response for finding out one of your best friends was secretly a superhero is "I can see why you would hide that, holy shit this is so cool".
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