What did /co/ think of Atlantis: the lost empire?
not enoght rape
>>77370387
Roark did nothing wrong.
>>77370387
first half is better than the second half.
>>77370387
The sequel doesn't exist.
An animated movie that I slept halfway through and the supporting cast of characters were miles apart better than the main characters. Also they killed the attractive white woman, and for that I will never forgive them.
Needs more quality lewd though.
Not bad.
The lost cause
>>77370490
Steampunk adventure is always best half.
In a parallel world we are complaining that they spent to much time getting to Atlantis and not enough time seeing the city.
>>77370387
It used a lot of generic design elements, but it nevertheless felt remarkably original for a kid's movie.
>>77370387
Pretty good. Didn't deserve to fail as hard as it did, but sometimes I think it's cult following overhypes it just a tad.
Biggest disappointment for me was we didn't get any Jules Verne inspired Disney World rides out of it, as we probably would have if it had been the success they were expecting. Now we're getting Avatar Land instead, which is a travesty.
Stupid and forgettable.
Best husbando
>tfw you will never run the flower shop with him
>>77370387
It's one of many exhibits of evidence as to why Disney couldn't make movies for the "boys market".
Right up there with Tarzan and John Carter.
It was a good movie, but I think that the plot was to nebulous and confusing to attract the same Disney audience who liked all of those Disney Animated Musicals from the 90's.
>>77370387
Overlooked hidden gem, flawed yet appealing.
Both parts are great, but the first half is much better.
>>77370519
Best part of the film. They needed to show more of the giant robots, ancient magitech mechs make my dick rock hard.
>>77370819
They were neat.
Everything up to them finding Atlantis is some real good shit.
Atlantis itself was really boring in comparison to the fun adventureness of the 1st half.
But the entire movie is absolutely fucking gorgeous.
Nadia's poor man
>>77370387
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeOo19iAJ1E
It's a cool looking movie.
![Atlantis.The.Lost.Empire.2001.1080p.BluRay.X264-AMIABLE.mkv_snapshot_00.00.39_[2015.11.10_16.48.11].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WMELBsN.jpg "Atlantis.The.Lost.Empire.2001.1080p.BluRay.X264-AMIABLE.mkv_snapshot_00.00.39_[2015.11.10_16.48.11].jpg")
Who pissed off Atlantis enough to get a magical nuke dropped on theys asses?
>>77370994
The magic nuke was an Atlantean weapon that backfired on them.
really great mechanical design.
![Atlantis.The.Lost.Empire.2001.1080p.BluRay.X264-AMIABLE.mkv_snapshot_00.20.59_[2015.11.10_16.53.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BpB6epY.jpg "Atlantis.The.Lost.Empire.2001.1080p.BluRay.X264-AMIABLE.mkv_snapshot_00.20.59_[2015.11.10_16.53.02].jpg")
>>77371009
You don't just invent a nuke cause you can, there was obviously an intended target.
Didn't hold up as well as I thought it would.
>>77370994
>>77371009
No, it was [spoilers]the Exarchs[/spoilers].
>>77371066
They used the crystal's power to conquer and fuck shit up. That power then turned against them. That's why the sat in the dark for hundreds of years and forgot everything.
I loved that fucking submarine. Thought that was the coolest shit as a kid. I love old dieselpunk stuff.
>>77371066
gonna go ahead and say it was the flying continent of Mu
>>77371118
White savior complex: the movie
>>77371159
>Mu
>Not Laputa
We've already seen Laputa clearly had the edge in terms of mechanized infantry.
>>77370387
TEAM ATLANTIS NEVER
>>77370387
OTP
>>77370861
Too bad this series died with the nautilus.
I want a world based on it in Kingdom Hearts 3 over shit like Frozen and Big Hero 6.
Amazing supporting cast.
Shit main cast.
Mediocre story.
Nice character animation.
Shamefully underrated.
Good animation. Good designs. The shitties main cast ever. Uninspired villain. THE BEST, FUCKING, SUPPORTING CAST, IN THE FUCKING DINSEY HISTORY. I would watch them rob shit and go on adventures without that fucknut Milo for about 10 episodes, which would be a good run for a spinoff miniseries.
>>77370387
I liked it better when it was called Nadia: Secret of Blue Wateri actually think it's one of Disneys better movies
I was amazed that Disney dared to do an action adventure story! No talking animals , no breaking into song every five minutes, no sappy duets. It was different from their usual boring shit. Which is why i like it. Along with Treasure Planet, Lilo and Stitch and Alice in Wonderland.
Funny i never cared too much for their most popular stuff like Lion King or Beauty and The Beast. Wish Disney ( Non Pixar Disney) would take a chance and do something like it again.
>>77370387
American Nadia featuring Mike Mignola from the Hellboy series
AAAANNND this>>77371037
That scene still sends chills down my spine
Very pretty and had some clever dialogue, but the plot was riddled with holes.
>>77370387
Dr Jackson and Storm made a cute couple.
>>77370387
I liked it a lot. It and Treasure Planet are actually my favorite Disney movies.
>tfw fave Disney generation is most despised Disney generation
>>77370994
Lemuria, obviously.
>>77370387
Best Disney girl
>>77371647
>Laputa
>Thewhore in spanish
heheheehheehehheheheheheheh
>>77374017
Roark's uninspired, but he's at least one of the most competent and ruthless Disney villains.
If we got a KH3 Atlantis World with his crystal form as its final boss I would be rock hard.
>>77375434
More Helga because she's so awesome
>>77370387
Sorely underrated and slightly weaker in the second half (despite a pretty cool climatic battle). One of very few Disney movies I wouldn't mind seeing re-done in live action since that's apparently their thing now.
>>77370387
It was the only good movie besides Lilo & Stitch that Disney made between 2000-2006.
>>77370741
You got the wrong pic anon
>>77371519
die screaming
>Buddies get killed by a giant robot lobster
>Long hard trip to get to Atlantis.
>Finally collect the damn crystal so you can get paid.
>Get vaporized by a stupid flying fish plane.
>>77370387
You mean Steampunk Stargate Fortress 2?
It's alright.
>>77375789
Nice counter argument.
>>77375835
Its what you get when you leave out the "rape" and "burn" out of "rape, burn, and pillage".
The Crystal Chamber is still one of my favorite movie songs today. It's the song that plays during the climax of the movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tx783Z5gso
>>77376734
Pose a real argument and you'll get a response. A vague, inflammatory comment isn't an argument.
Not like anyone here gives a fuck about shitskins, though.
>>77376822
May it be a lesson to future generations.
>>77375535
Literally elementary school tier humor.
>>77370387
It was ok
>>77370387
>>77375535
read a book you filthy spic
>>77375729
So what exactly was his story?
>>77378188
Raised by naked mole rats?
>>77378188
He's French.
Didn't get the love it deserved.
It had Diselpunk, a likeable cast, good villain and some lovely animated sequences.
>>77370387
It's one of my favorites movies.
As a kid I loved the submarine design and the fucking Leviathan.
>>77370387
Could've been an interesting series if Helga had lived.
so many deaths in this movie, and that was fucking hardcore for Disney movie
>>77378604
>crew of 201
>6 survivors
>>77370387
I think I liked it better when it was Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water
>>77378604
The candle in the floating doughboy helmet is one of the best sequences in any Disney movie.
Love the film.
Everything up to the point till they find Atlantis is great.
When they get there and the dieselpunk stuff ends, it gets kinda boring.
Couple of things that really bothered me were, Why the fuck would you send tons of armed soldiers on an underwater archaeology mission?
Also how the loss of the Atlantean culture was handled.
Every single one of them had forgotten how to read and create tech-magical shit?
Yeah that would be all fine and dandy if the people were the descendants of the ones that survived, but these fuckers live for thousands of years and probably half of them were present when the damn place sank under the waves.
Still I love the art in this film and the supporting cast is top tier.
Even though the villain was kinda bland at least this guy was actually threatening and got shit done.
>Throwing Helga off the blimp and giving zero fucks about it.
>>77378262
They should have said that in the movie.
>>77374061
>>77374299
>>77370861
>>77378794
>>77378182
Silencio, puta
>>77379106
Embarajame la churrasca, puto.
>>77378882
Rourke is a really underrated villain, he has nice body language too, like when his hair is frazzled during the camping scene.
>>77378794
>>77370861
>>77374299
>>77374061
Please. They're both ripoffs of Jules Verne (Nadia's 20K, Atlantis started off as a Journey to the Center of the Earth adaptation before going in another direction) and New Age Atlantis conspiracy theories about them having magic crystals.
Besides, Gainax didn't really make a splash in the west until Eva. Can totally buy the "Didn't hear about it until you brought it up" alibi of the directors who wanted an animated counterpart to those adventure movies Disney made back in the 50s and 60s.
It's not like Lion King and Kimba where Broderick literally thought he was starring in a remake or Roy Disney flubbing the name in production meetings and concept art of white lion cubs.
I know they were going for wimp with Milo, but even the delivery feels like cardboard.
the Spanish dub at least made him sound more lively.
Now guys, what if they made a prequel?
The original expedition with Milo's grandaddy and the crew to look for the diary?
>>77379778
Pretty sure that was part of a tie-in game
>>77370728
>>77375673
shit filter m8
>>77379587
That might be because Michael J Fox has Parkinson's.
>>77370387
Writing was meh, but animation was really great.
>>77370505
i remember wanting to fuck her so badly.
>>77379433
I never said Nadia DIDN'T have a basis in Jules Verne's work.
What I said was that Atlantis directly ripped off key points to Nadia's identity.
- Nerdy bespectacled genius
- dark skinned Princess
- Powerful amulet
- Stempunk submarine
- Atlantis as a setting
Atlantis is every bit as much a ripoff of Nadia that Lion King was of Kimba
>>77370387
I think it's a rather interesting way to rip off Nadia and Stargate.
Rip off two things and cram them together to make it look original. Neat-O
>>77370387
Decent, if horribly fast-paced. I think it would've been much better if it had been the trilogy Mignola wanted.
I loved the hell out of it as a kid, though. During the Summer it released, my friends and I all got the crystal necklace toys from Burger King or whatever and took them with us to all of the field trips at summer camp.
>>77374996
I loved Disney's work around that time, I still have no idea why this movie and Treasure Planet aren't more popular.
Also, that soundtrack.
>>77382344
Those crystal necklaces were the shit. First thing I think about when this movie comes up.
>>77381336
it bears a greater resemblance to stargate.
>>77371118
Man, it's appreciable just how unique all of the background characters are. They all have very distinct figures, faces, and sexes.
>>77374996
I don't think it's really "despised" (except by Disney itself) so much as "forgotten."
>>77371102
Lol fail spoiler newfag.
Kida is the hottest Disney female MC should have been a Disney Princess.
>>77370387
Atlantians are dippy and the product of executive-meddling. The rest of the world was neat, but we have to zoom through all of it to get to the special snowflake immortal culture that some how forgot to power their hover sleds and let their kingdom decay into an archaeological digsite.
The only thing I regret about the movie's failure is that it was the final death knell for Vernes-inspired subs at Disney World.
Well, this thread is at least making me want to revisit my old-ass VHS copy, so thanks for that. I hope my nostalgia isn't disappointed.
>>77370519
The scenery for this movie was really beautiful.
Looked amazing, nice to see sci-fi fantasy imagery paired together with high budget Disney animation. But yeah, It's fucking Stargate animated, and Milo is the exact same character as Daniel Jackson.
>Awkward language nerd who has crazy theories related to ancient history.
>Laughing stock.
>Suddenly approached by people in power >"We believe you and we want you to be translator on a mission directly related to what you've been working on your whole life!"
>Nerd discovers that his theories were right all along and enter a new world with military team in the belief that they are there to explore and learn.
>Has a hard time doing 'military stuff' and fitting in with the group, but is ultimately accepted.
>Meets princess from from the other culture/world and falls in love with her.
>Finds out that he is being used and the mission he is on has non-peaceful goals.
>Convinces parts of military team that the place they've found shouldn't be blown up and saves the day.
>Nerd decides to stay in the newly discovered world with his princess girlfriend while the rest of his team returns home.
Not that this kind of character is original in the first place, but that and the other similarities with SG is just really hard to ignore when you watch the movie. It seriously cheapens it for me.
>>77382344
It was supposed to be a trilogy?
>>77381336
The last three are Edgar Cayce and a pulp aesheti. The firs two is just obvious. You think Nadia was the first to try nerdy cultured guy meets savage royalty? That shit is as old as H R Haggard.
>>77370387
Awesome until they actually found Atlantis
>>77383394
Well, I'm actually not 100% about it, but I've seen it claimed. Supposedly the first movie was only going to be the search for Atlantis.
>>77383394
That would have made it a whole lot better.The movie had such a wonderful, adventurous energy until they killed the sub. It reminded me of a Jules Verne book. All these characters getting together to go someone cool. It felt fun.
The movie died when the submarine died, and things had to happen too fast too soon for the plot and Altantis itself never seemed mysterious enough or interesting enough in the time they had to develop it.
One movie about getting to Atlantis and another about exploring Atlantis might have been best.
And I will never not be miffed they killed the sub.
>Be kid
>Have dolls of every Disney princess and prince (plus stuff like Hunchback of Notre Dame and Hercules)
>Constantly beg parents for Kida (and Milo) dolls from Disney store
>Never get it/them
>10+ years later
>Dolls go for $60 on ebay
>mfw
>>77375319
Wasn't Lemuria just the continent Atlantis was on, at least according to Theosophists?
>>77375658
>I would be rock hard
>>77383456
It would've been better if the Ulysses had lasted longer than, like, five minutes.
>>77383516
Lemuria was allegedly a landmass between Africa and India, I believe.
>>77382537
Nah.
>>77379433
Stop trying to peddle your bullshit. You really have no idea what you're talking about and your denial is hilarious at this point.
![[Screams irradiatedly].png](https://i.imgur.com/4myAjE5.png "[Screams irradiatedly].png")
>>77378949
>As Kida is walking back out of the lake, Rourke goes to grab her and Milo says "No, don't...don't touch her."
>If Milo had kept his fucking mouth shut Rourke probably would have gotten his dumb ass killed and it would've been done with
>>77383531
It would have been better if it went down after doing enough so that the audience got attached to it.
>>77383720
He's not completely wrong. The movie is Verne + Burroughs + Edgar Cayce. The fact that it has a nerd main character is explained by it dealing with the occult. A down on his luck book worm is perfect for an underdog MC and flows naturally from the premise.
Kida being brown is because Cayce described magic blue crystals and a dark-red skinned race of Atlanteans, and blue on brown skin looks better than blue on red skin so they fudged the skin tone a little.
A dark skinned race with magic blue crystals, and of course the girl would have to be a princess. She's always a princess in these types of stories.
Maybe its not that Atlantis ripped off Nadia as much as they both pulled from the same sources? Has anyone considered that?
>>77383795
That would have been kind of dark for his character though. Milo doesn't seem that cold blooded.
>>77383834
He sure didn't mind turning Rourke into a horrible crystalline hellbeast.
>>77383477
Kinda know how you feel.
Never got my General Grievous action figure with 4 posable arms.
Kida is 8/10 waifu material.
>>77383866
Eh, good point.
>>77383888
Remember the brief time period where he was cool? When Jedis were actually afraid of him and he left Shak Ti broken and humiliated after an awesome running battle just because he wanted to leave a message?
I miss those times.
>>77383901
Only an 8? What's missing?
And how does she compare to Jane, Disney's other Pulp heroine?
>>77383834
>He's not completely wrong.
Yes he is.
The whole Burroughs + Edgar Cayce is just bullshit that /co/ dredged up to pretend like Disney isn't a bunch of thieving jews.
I recently rewatched this with a friend and we were both surprised at the sheer number of people who die in this film. Almost the entire expedition crew is dead before they reach the city.
>>77383933
Bad bait or an actual retard.
>>77370387
Everbody forgot this had a sequel, right?
>Atlantis: The Lost Empire was also meant to provide a springboard for an animated television series entitled Team Atlantis, which would have presented the further adventures of its characters. The series would feature episodes with different legends incorporated, such as Puck, The Loch Ness Monster and the Terracotta Warriors. One of the episodes of Team Atlantis that was never animated entitled "The Last" featured an appearance by Demona from Greg Wiseman's previous Disney series Gargoyles and served as a pseudo-crossover between them. However, because of the film's under-performance at the box office the series was not produced either.
>On May 20, 2003, Disney ended up releasing a direct-to-video sequel film called Atlantis: Milo's Return, consisting of three episodes planned for the aborted series, with some additional animation was done to link the stories more closely.
>>77383957
Disney was trying to appeal to an older audience with this and Treasure Planet.
We all know how that went though...
>>77383933
But its true.
The crystals and dark skinned race stuff comes from Cayce. You know how they also somehow know all languages and speak a primal language? Also from Cayce. Same with the flying machines.
The "group of explorers get together to go on a cool adventure" is from Verne works like Journey to the Center of the Earth. Them being a cool group of specialists comes from Doc Savage.
The nerdy guy and savage princess comes from Edgar Rice Burroughs stories, particularly At the Earth's Core, where the main character has to man up to win his waifu princess Diane the Beautiful (yes that's actually her name).
People forget that quite a few of Burrough's protagonists were book worms. Although none of them were truly as wimpy as Milo, they still had his character arc of taking charge of the local culture and leading them in a climatic battle to rescue the princess at the end.
Come on anon, the Japanese didn't invent every adventure plot.
>>77383977
As much as I like the movies they were mediocre. If they wanted to get a foothold with an older demographic they needed to have not just done a good job but killed it.
And they blew it.
They tried again with John Carter and outright shamed themselves. Who thought it was a good idea to burden down a pulp novel with excess plot and sequel bait? Who thought it was a good idea to drain all the color out of ERB's Barsoom and turn it into Arakis?
Disney just doesn't put the needed effort forward when they jump genre.
>>77383961
Watched it one day.
I was amazed how shitty the animation was for a movie, but this
>consisting of three episodes planned for the aborted series.
Kinda explains it.
Also:
>Oh look a dinosaur is following us.
>It's just like a dog!
>Only 9.99$ at the nearest toy store.
I'd say that nothing of value was really lost.
>>77383977
The problem is that Disney doesn't really know how to appeal to older audience and their attempts to do it end up as a kind of a mess.
The Hunchback is a pretty good example of it being done pretty well, but then we have the mandatory stupid Disney comic relief which isn't funny to anyone older than 4.
Fuck those gargoyles, the movie would have been so much better without them.
The must have childish Disney stuff kinda kills it.
>>77383681
Just ignoring the openings to both movies, I see.
Its interesting how Atlantis is in the same universe as Tarzan. It make sense given how Pulp both movies were.
>>77371578
anyone make out much of Mole's background?
>>77371578
wait, i thought that that demoman was russian. at least in polish dub he was.
>>77370387
I read some fucked up shit about James Garner's relationship with his step-mother.
bump?
>>77384775
Tell us more!
>>77386083
Here's a thought: Could this be remade? Maybe as a miniseries?
Maybe a crossover with Tarzan?
>>77370387
Solid movie that could have been one of Disney's best if it spent more time on the journey and less time on the ancient magical civilization.
Everything about Atlantis was boring while all the side characters were amazing.
It's like Road to El Dorado where I wish we had a high budget miniseries of the characters adventures since they're so fucking likable.
>>77384763
>at least in polish dub he was.
Well in the original english version he was voiced by Don Novello, AKA Father Guido Sarducci.
>>77387026
Atlantis could have been cool if they actually spent time on exploring it and stuff.
>>77383795
>>77383834
>>77383866
He also may not have known that direct contact with her/the crystal would have done that.
>>77383961
My friends and I were drunk up in our hotel room at ananimuconvention and it was on TV....on the Spanish-dub channel. Spent a good portion of the night laughing our asses off and giving it our own dub.
If it was a musical it would have done better.
>>77382619
Should have been princess. God dammit Disney.
>>77370501
Ok it wasn't that bad though
