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http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
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>Paper Wings
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>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
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>Guide to promoting your comic:
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WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
I can shit this pages out in a day but it takes me a week to finish my other comic. I hate it so much.
>>84018245
odd, they're both the same quality right?
>>84018332
Little more detail in the other at the moment, but endlessly more people.
>>84018363
ah yeah that'll do it.
well anyway i have no doubt youre going to make it. going purely by the art.
The Sisters updated. Four pages, next week we're either confronting the name of this chapter head on, or we're back to the kids. I forget.
http://thesisters-comic.com/
https://tapastic.com/episode/383406
I think we've got maybe three to four more updates for this issue. Strong lead in to the next, where we can get into some action and political McCarthyist fuckery.
>>84018187
One night it was clear.
>>84018245
The Asian girl in the third panel is cute.
If you may recall (if the unforgivably long gap didnt wipe it from memory. i dunno what happened.), when we last left our heroes, a crazy guy in a window was taking credit for the horrible trash golem attack and indicating he holds a grudge against adventurers and their littering waysit turns out it was all for a terrible, terrible pun! no no this is going somewhere, really.
>>84018428
love that fuckin dog
there are some really interesting shots here, yknow? i don't know the last time i've seen a comic panel go for the 'let's see what's- oh, remarkably clean under that fridge actually' angle.
mmm mozzarella sticks. though it would appear theyre the kind where the breading gets all hard and forms a shell. bad form.
I have no idea how to audiovisualize the voice of this cheese-pizza-eatin' mushroom-ass-faced weirdo, but I can sympathize with his plight, with a little imagination. i somehow forgot channeling was a thing. this comic reminds me of all kinds of shit i should be expecting
>mccarthyism
whoa, so someone's going to hugely overreact to something legitimately bad, in a way that uses the same tactics it uses, and thereby accidentally makes people sympathetic with it?
got a new panel done, I'm not to excited about it though
>>84018428
>http://thesisters-comic.com/
i made these earlier this year and never posted them
>>84018669
>>mccarthyism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5vMBLR9i70
But seriously, Beatrice and Douglas are installing a puppet leader so they can keep an eye on people.
>audiovisualize the voice
Guy's a weird case. I sort of picture it as a Chris Pratt by way of Henry Rollins. He's someone who was bro-tier but is very exhausted and physically drained. Like he probably used to look a bit more normal but the past few years haven't been well to him. His story really isn't plot focus because it has been "resolved" so to speak; but he was about five years ago a county fair level punk rock guy.And then while fucking his girlfriend Beth backstage she shot herself in the head with a magnum because she thought it would be immortalizing and he was supposed to do it to. And so he's sort of been stuck seeing her and all other sorts of dead people for about five years, which has seen him fucking around the Jersey Shore getting fired from any job involving people because he talks to people who usually aren't there. So Scott helped him out with that, but he's still utterly fucked as a human being.
So he hasn't eaten well or had much sleep in about half a decade because he's always seeing horrific things or being harassed by horrific things.Funny enough, Guy and Beth were part of an old porn comic project that got scrapped with another artist because of time constraints which I actually really liked because it dealt with the idea of occult fallout, body-hijacking, spiritual oppression and toxic toxic fucking romance.
Here goes nothing.
https://tapastic.com/series/FrICTION
>>84018428
eww, kevin smith dialogue
>tfw no progress
>>84019008
>Humans turned into cartoons and stuck in a house by the government.
Is this like a poor man's Emdtown?
>>84019120
>adult adventure time
>>84018866
oh god, that would be the worst haunting i've ever heard. and i once conceived of a setting where humanity has been beset en masse by totally intangible ghosts who seem to have nothing better to do than just to mess people up.. wake them up when they try to sleep, blind them while theyre doing something important, and so on.. and nobody can do anything to stop them, and it just goes on that way years.
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>>84019103
this gay motherfucker serious?
>tfw your comic is getting more popular and you are making more money off of it
>>84019182
nigga what?
>>84019103
So the last time you told me this I went back and reread all my stuff and compared it to the few Kevin Smith products I've ever seen; namely Clerks (plus the cartoon of it), Mallrats, and Dogma (surprisingly, only ever the TV version on Comedy Central). I didn't catch a lot of what you're putting down, but I took it to heart because I do like to look and see where my influences are coming from.
And the last time I watched Kevin Smith stuff, prior to all this, was in the mid-2000s when I had a tiny black TV with a DVD player built into it. Rewatching them was moderately enjoyable, I think parts of them all hold up while others fall short.
A Kevin Smith monologue is generally more personalized to the person who is on the receiving end of it, like Silent Bob's speech at the end of Clerks to Dante. And I don't think I manage that. I also am aware that my dialogue is not inane enough or non-sequitur enough to hit the Randall/Dante dichotomy (for better or for worse). It is vulgar, I'll give you that; which could be part of where you're coming from.
I channel a lot of 30 Rock/American Dad in my writing process because I'm generally listening to that in the background, but I don't see much of an influence showing up. Because ultimately I try to place vocal patterns I'm familiar with in my own life. I talk like Erin talks, I know a lot of people who talk like Jam talks, and I've generally placed everyone's patterns within the Society from people in my own life I've encountered or by how my diction shifts when I've overcome with an emotion (generally a negative one).
If you can specify, I would appreciate it.. Or if this was just at my expense, I can try to channel some David Mamet for you next time around.
>>84019333
i think it's just that you both write realistic low-class people who arent distinctly ethnic but just kinda city trash
>>84019293
Miss Melee please go.
>>84019293
Well I mean 19 bucks a month is better than nothing
>>84019407
>Miss Melee
>>84019158
Is it? Never knew endtown's premise was similar, never really read it.
Is it a bad thing?
>>84019397
I appreciate that, but I also don't take umbrage to the comment either. If I do, realistically, appear to be too influenced by an individual who I don't expose myself to that often I might benefit from better understanding the how and the why so as to differentiate myself for the better. Ideally, to split the difference and both win over the reader who dislikes the dialogue flow and to of course please the retained audience.
Finished this page!
Doing some logo work updating something I did a few years ago after rewriting the story's premise somewhat.
The title is a double entendre, partially inspired by Julie Doucet's "Dirty Plotte" and my love of Ankama. "Plotte" is vulgar slang in Quebec, roughly the equivalent of "cunt" in both application to the genitals and pejorative for a bitchy woman.
It feels like it's a little empty, maybe missing wings or swords on the sides, but I might just be second guessing myself. Thoughts?
>>84019781
A weaponless sketch of the two main protagonists and antagonist side-by-side for height reference.
It's supposed to be a high fantasy comic,with "I'm too chivalrous for this shit" implied /ss/
>>84019509
No I'm just fucking with you. Cute art. Looking forward to seeing where it goes.
>>84019781
is.. is that where the term in colorful horses comes from?
i think the logo is good as long as it's supposed to look pretty fancy and jazztastically 80s
>>84019928
Oh, thanks man!
>>84020082
"I watch it for the plot" was a thing way before that. I remember made some macros about it back when Wakfu came out, but the term actually originates from places like /a/ and gets applied liberally whenever waifuism is involved.
And yeah, while I didn't have the 80s in mind specifically I was thinking about the cartoons I used to watch growing up in the 90s that would use thick fonts and have crests or icons behind their titles in the opening sequence.
I prefer drawing in a cartoonish style so that's good - I was actually concerned the usage of texture may have made it too jarringly uncartoonish to mesh well with my art.
>Drawing cute girl
>Draw her construction and face
>Realize she's naked at this point
>>84019857
/ss/ is nice
doesnt look like high fantasy to me, looks straight-up cape with a hint of post-2008-computer-game aesthetic
>>84020404
oh okay. so it's the same as sailor jupiter's "talent"
just from the sound of it i thought it had to be anatomical in some way
Found a bunch of my old notes, probably a little more than a year old. Its all Terrible
I need to try and accept just how long it's going to take until I reach a point where I can actually release something. Unless I can work on this full-time (ha!) it's probably going to take at least a year, maybe more, to complete the first chapter. Feeling rushed for time only results in frustration.
Also need to try to condition myself to do it more regularly, like a workout routine. I've been pretty bad at that.
>>84020935
To expand upon this, I have about 50 documents, most not more than half a page long. A lot of character spreadsheets that I keep making trying to find new ways to categorize them all. Some pages trying to figure out some kind or lore or organization that I try to come up with. As much as I gloated about "big stuff" I just realized how much of a disorganized mess I am, both in files and in creativity.
>>84021057
you know i don't like your style at all but hot damn this is a great progression. did you use a reference?
you also seem to be reallly good at shading to the point that things look like cg.. but like 'CGI Palz' cg
>>84021057
Check out nightwing # 1 from the New52, see what they use for a visual progression. It's nifty, gets the job done, and would probably save you time.
>>84020476
I can understand that from looking at those three. There are orcs, dwarves and elves in the story, as well as skyships and mana based weaponry that make everything a lot more fantastical. The villain also draws power from a Lovecraftian source that serves as a secondary villain to this series, as the skullfaced villain is more of a Team Rocket style comic relief somewhat inspired by Donald Trump.
The whole universe is based roughly off Nordic creation myth with a bit of science mixed in. I took Yggdrasil as a base to interpret our universe where the center of the tree represents a planet, the core of the tree a world within a world, its roots the descent into the underworld realms plus a metaphor on how our universe "grew" from "nothing", and the branches and leaves representing both space and a multiverse. The Lovecraftian forces come from something inspired by Ginnungagap in Nordic mythology and are merged with the worm Nidhog who chews at Yggdrasilbecause tentacles. Pic related is a stylized diagram, but minus the names of the realms as I haven't decided on them all.
I can confess the girl has a lot of inspiration from capes, though. Peej has always been one of my favourite capes, and when she lost her boobwindow in the Nu52 I had added the design element to the female character and eventually wrote it functionally into the storybecause she can pull mana based energy weapons from her cleavage as well pull open the boob window to perform energy attacks.The story takes place after a Ragnarok-type event and the girl is supposed to have a portion of the powers of the various fallen gods, so her overall powerset is not unlike characters like Shazam or Invincible orMary-Sue with smug
>>84020495
I'm not really an anime fan so I don't get the reference.
The title doesn't have much to do with anything, other than being dirty humor since the story is meant to be fun and not super serious.
What do you guys think of a short story where its set in an occupied country at war and 3 prisoners at a camp capture a guard who they force to help them get out of the country to freedom. Along the way they come across some camps that they then liberate to varying degrees, because their goal isnt to free everyone, just themselves.
>>84021140
Thanks, I guess? No, I didn't use a reference. Curious though, what don't you like about the style? Is it the drawing style itself, or just the way it's rendered?
>>84021323
a new take on yggdrasil? i've been wanting one of those! nice.
>boob window energy attacks
okay you've got me now.
now when you say shazam you BES mean the wizard or we're gonn have words. and one of those words is gonna be shazam.
>reference
the original line was "she'll get the role because of her big boobs" and the dub made it "her huge... talent!" with the pause (and the unaltered hands gesture) making it pretty clear what she meant. if you ever find yourself in 2001 you'll need to know these things.
>>84021373
an interesting concept. i think i've seen that done with escaped slaves before, and it's always amazing they bother to stop and help others on the way.. i always feel like 'no, don't push your luck!' but it alwys works out in the end.
Working on a weird Psychedelic space comic about a Monkey. Many of my other concepts were to dark and edgy so im trying to find new ways on making a tragic character without being so grimdark. Any suggestions?
>>84021545
stick with grimdark. it suits your art.
well, the way to write tragedy without crushing grimness is to allow some hope. not dash the reader's expectations too many times. they'll get fatigued eventually. you have to work on pacing
>>84021508
Well like i said, they liberate camps to varying degrees. Of the 3 camps they encounter only 1 they really liberate, because at the end near the border is heavily fortified and guarded, so they need a bit of help to get thru.
>>84022103
i'd like it if they had some sensible goal and reason for that. like, additional numbers will be able to help them
>>84022199
That would be fine, i can put that in
that raging internal debate when you've accidentally made a cracking pun and you're not sure whether to point it out or not because it's a bit more subtle compared to the others it's surrounded by
>>84022382
your pun is shit and you're not as clever as you think.
>>84023020
blindfolded insult-darts is one thread over, mack. might not have noticed because of the blindfold
>>84023044
Yep, exactly the retort you'd expect from a self absorbed idiot. He even saw fit to try to belabor his "wit" in the second sentence. Even blindfolded I'm spot on.
>>84023168
who are you talking to?
>tfw you read a comic with great art and you get depressed knowing your comic will never be that good
>>84023484
is this the new bonesposting?
I like writing about girls, and want to write stories where girls interact with each other go away /u/ . But the problem is that I'm a guy, so I feel like every attempt I make at writing a female character is cringe worthy to any girl that actually reads it. What do I do?
>implying my writing isn't already cringe worthy to all genders
>>84024430
>What do I do?
get better taste?
>>84024430
Give us an example, all I can otherwise recommend is "write dudes but they're women instead"
>>84024430
look at this betamax mother fucker already apologizing for his own betaness. even the reaction pic is beta as fuck
the beta is pretty much equivalent to the feminine, so just pretend you're the characters as you're writing.
>>84024430
Go ask any girls you know what girls are like.
Read media aimed at girls, written by girls, for an idea of how girls might perceive themselves.
Go visit predominantly female social spaces (online or offline) and get a better grip on their interactions and how they present themselves.
Go read up on the actual psychological studies that have been made on the differences between how boys and girls socialize.
What exactly is it that makes you particularly worried about writing girls, rather than any other kind of characteristic that you don't share in real life, like a cop character?
>>84024430
If you can't get into the same head space as a woman you ain't been interacting with them to much then homie...woman are complex but it's not to hard to portray one in a comic or whatever. Watch some cartoons or movies with the type of chicks you want to create to get a better understanding .of course you could talk to one and would be a nice excuse to speak to a female and get her opinion on the characters your making.
>>84024430
Realistic women often aren't as interesting or amusing as imaginary ones. Think about what you really want to write.
>>84024430
Girls are just people, anon. Unless you really want to write dialogue about girls discussing their periods and vaginas it's okay to make them talk like any other normal human being.
I remember a recent thread people were arguing about when to start using Patreon, but it all seemed to be a back-and-forth of "before you have a big fanbase" and "after you have a big fanbase", but no real mention or discussion of what constitutes a good-sized fanbase/readerbase. Just how many unique visits a day would you guys believe justifies starting up a Patreon?
>>84025188
I'd say a couple hundred, based on a very tiny amount of research into the subject.
It also depends on how long you've been updating. Even if you get a lot of visitors, nobody's going to want to risk it if you're still in the beginning stages of your comic.
>>84025273
>things that are easy to do get done more than things that are time consuming
You don't say.
Should i buy this?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/One-By-Wacom-Bamboo-Splash-Pen-Tablet-CTL471-Drawing-Tablet-/251726705470?hash=item3a9c14b33e:g:BHcAAOSwofxUdBA~
>>84025761
Anon.
You must find the answer within your own heart.
>>84025803
>>84025761
the alternative is this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/One-By-Wacom-Bamboo-Splash-Pen-Medium-Tablet-CTL-671-/261705436192?hash=item3ceedc0c20:g:w~8AAOSwg3FUbt~c
basically, a small Wacom Bamboo for $95 vs a medium Wacom Bamboo for $154.
>tfw have to make a comic with male characters because you end up drawing every female character too sexy and you start masturbating and when you finish you're no longer motivated to draw
>>84025188
It doesn't matter when you start Patreon, it's just kinda discouraging to do it really early because you won't have any Patrons for a long time, and they'll come in at far more of a trickle than they will if you wait to build up a fanbase first.
If that kind of thing doesn't discourage you or make you feel bad then you can start a Patron the very second your comic launches.
There's a lot of different factors that go into how successful your Patreon is in the early stages.
>>84025188
dobsonspatreoncampaign.jpg
>Been reading some Berserk along with other hardcore merciless stories
>Start to wonder
I'm starting to wonder whether or not my story crafting method is...I don't know...mature enough. I mean, I had planned to kill off characters in my story, and for plenty of bad things to happen to them, but compared to Berserk, it's like a Sunday afternoon walk through the park.
And then I wonder if I even want to write stories so...raw. I don't think I could.
>>84026537
I like Berserk, but I don't know if I would call it particularly mature. It's just unrelentingly dark. I don't think a story being less grim or graphic or depressing is a mark against it.
That said, if you really do want to write a story like Berserk, yeah, you're gonna have to learn to revel in twisting the knife.
If you make it, will you acknowledge /hyw/?
>>84026537
>read story
>really like the story
>want to make changes to your comic to better fit what you just read
It happens to all of us. Don't give in to temptation.
>>84019333
Different poster here, I see where that anon is coming from, although he's slightly off.
It's not that you're ripping off Kevin Smith for dialogue, but you are falling into the same trap Smith often does when writing dialogue, where every character sounds like the same person 90% of the time, that person being very obviously (to me and apparently at least one other person) the writer. The characters don't feel as unique as they look.
First page of chapter 2. About time.
>>84027376
10/10 gripping drama
Good to have you back mate.
>>84027376
Finally you're back. The comfiest comic in /hyw/.
>>84023484
>tfw that comic with great art is mine
>>84027737
>yfw he's actually talking about West Tree
What's the worst idea you ever had for your comic HYW?
>>84027907
I once had an idea for a sitcom-style webcomic about Andrew Dobson and Tim Buckley living together.
>>84027925
that sounds fantastic though
>>84026306
keep your feels to your self feelposter
>>84028169
He's broken. You motherfuckers finally broke him.
>>84027907
Off the top of my head, I tried to have a decompressed 5-person fight scene in a dark room begin and finish in a single page because I wanted to avoid boring people and capture some of the feeling of abruptness in an actual fight.
It ended up being pretty good considering, but man, it's a mess.
I'd considered giving myself a hard limit of 1 page per fight scene, but after this I figured that probably wasn't a good idea.
>>84028340
Dobson is one of those guys who "quits" art at least every other month.
Pretty sure those tweets are from months, if not a year or two ago.
>tfw working on the comic and another creative project
>tfw its somehow boosting my morale
I would recommend giving it a shot to see how it works out for you.
So, I feel like these next 2 pages are a bit more boring than they have to be. I mean yeah, it's just a bunch of talking and it won't take very long to read through in the archive, but does anyone have any great ideas for how to pace or shoot it better?
1/2
>>84029041
I'm especially wondering what I should do for the first two panels here. Maybe something with the wolf?
2/2
how is that pushup motion?
>>84029058
You can take it down further for the bottom position. All the way down.
I also think it would read better if he either had his hands further apart or his elbows closer to his body.
Maybe you could have him doing pushups with bent knees to show how bad he is at them?
starting a new comic based on a screencap story called Catfish Man. A 29 y/o virgin sysadmin catfishes girls on dating sites/tinder. He tells them he's married, and if they're still DTF on the first date still he trolls them. Basically his qualifier for "sluts"
His motive will be a disillusionment with modern women, triggered by his fiance making him wait for marriage but then cheating on him.
>>84029195
Oh, and maybe it would read better if it was shot from a lower angle?
>>84029058lol
>>84029041
Perfectly good opportunity to give Skeggold googly eyes, wasted.
>>84029228
>>84029195
something like this?
>>84029442
You could have him dip even lower. And have a straight line from his ankle to his head in the upper pose.
>>84029196
I want to get into your head anon
>>84029591
so it sounds interesting?
>>84029522
thanks, ill be tweakin it
>>84029439
Consider it canon that she's doing it constantly whenever she's not on panel.
>>84024430
I imagine you've met a woman. Pick one, and imagine how she'd respond in a given situation. New character? Pick a different woman. Or a specific man who seems like a good fit, depending on the character. Eventually maybe try amalgamations with specific aspects of several people you know.
Course if you're a neet there's no hope you'll make good characters regardless
>>84029196
This could either be really funny or be the second coming of Christ-chan.
>>84027907
I've had a lot of really terrible ideas for Miss Melee. Most of them were because I had watched or read something and wanted to copy it at the expense of my comic's quality. None of those ideas would have seen the light of day of course, but I have to thank my artist for being lightning-fast in shooting them down. That's one of the reasons I'm a big fan of writer-artist pairings, the higher level of quality control. He keeps me in check, and I keep him in check.
>>84030975
>no embarassing specifics
weeeeeeaaaak
>>84031009
I've honestly forgotten a lot of them but there was that one time I watched a ton of DBZ in one sitting and thought it would be a good idea to make Miss Melee a secret alien like Goku.
>>84031052
So she didn't know about it? Or was it a Superman situation where she was keeping it secret from her husband?
>>84018072
Made this on my phone, thinking of doing more on a laptop, gonna call it "The Poorly Drawn Adventures of Spudhead"
Thoughts?
>>84031087
The former. Just like Goku.
It was the worst idea I've ever had.
>>84031216
kill yourself my man
>>84031440
I won't and there's nothing you can do about it :^)
I'm looking up some inspiration for a character idea, but I'm not sure what to call it.
Basicly its for one of those mechanical type characters, where the results matter, no matter what type of action it is she's doing.
Not sure how to explain it. If anyone knows a good trope that relates tp this. It would help me out a lot.
>>84031808
I haven't the foggiest idea what you mean. Could you give us an example, a similar character?
>>84031808
Sounds ISTJ with a touch of autism.
>>84031869
Not sure, Maybe like Yuki Nagato from the Haruhi Franchise, Or Sheldon from the Big bang theory.
Could bewrong about using those types.
>>84031940
autism
>>84031940
Well, if you're looking for "tropes", TvTropes classifies both of them as "the Spock", which sounds pretty close to what you're talking about.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSpock
>>84032073
>http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSpock
Yes this sounds close to what I had in mind. Thanks for the help
>>84025188
i believe the argument was between "it doesn't matter" and "only after you have a big fanbase"
the crux of the argument is whether having an empty patreon hurts your image in some way, if someone happens to find it and see that it's empty.
>>84027376
I was expecting one more page of flashback filling us in on how and when he eventually got ahold of mayu-chan. but I can fill in the mental blanks
>>84032457
There will be 3 more flashback-comics about that after chapter 2. It's a bit more complicated and would spoil a small part of the story if I'd reveal that right now.
Right now my idea is to make those extra-comics after every major chapter.
>>84028369
at least it worked thematically. fighting in the dark is clumsy, confused, and when you look back on it it feels like it was over in an instant
>>84029041
>>84029051
ehhhhhh it could be cut down a little but it's also beautiful. it gets us giving fucks about ol' feathercloak, it's building up some tension about why odin wants to talk to them.. as long as the payoff is worth it, these pages are just fine.
>>84029196
definite potential here..
>>84031808
i think you're describing an extreme pragmatist
i love those because they collapse when they realize you can't actually decide the outcome of anything
>>84032510
ohh i like it. just like in my good RPGs!
WIP of the next page!
>>84032620
I'm actually glad people don't hate me for putting that flashback story on hold.
All I can say for now is that everything in the story is connected in a weird way and Mayu itself might be a huge plottwist.
>>84029041
>>84029051
Two pages of talking probably isn't the worst way to handle this conversation, and to some extent whether it's "okay" depends on what the payoff for the individual ideas you spent time on is.
I could point out ways to shorten it, but I wouldn't say you need to. Things flow okay as is. That said, if you worry about this stuff, bring it to us sooner so you don't waste time on stuff you might excise.
The introduction sequence could technically be condensed or excised if you wanted to rush things.
"Why"/"he didn't mention" could just be "He didn't say why" as a second bubble in the prior panel.
The pulling rank bit at the end of p1 I'm going to assume is important for establishing rank. And it's a good mark to end a page on.
I would assume that the valholl/silver hall bit is important, but if you wanted to cram stuff into one page, this bit could be established at another point. Say, you could "cut" over some stuff and this could be a conversation on the way there.
Bird is badass, and (guessing) narratively significant.
Second page could probably do without the last three panels altogether. The big reaction is a punchier way to end a page.
>>84032771
didnt see that coming. neat.
yeah i mean i'm disappointled but knowing it's coming back and that it's going to be a regular 'chapter break' thing makes me happy.
>>84032693
'parder'?
holy shit he's hot enough to damage anna's metal form.. also anna's hair looks great in the 3rd and 6th panels. i hope over time you get even more consistent with that.
juan sure likes starting every sentence with 'now'
is that a closeup of his gun barrel with a little ironsights on it? which is his finger? I don't think you really established that well enough, it's confusing right now.
ohshiiiit futurebullets! those are ten times more futurey than regular present day bullets!
>>84032538
>>84032801
I think I may have miscommunicated a bit. I'm not so much looking to cut down so that I can get to the next scene faster (I think having it go a bit slow will add something to the reading experience once it's done, although I think it's gonna be pretty tortuous reading week by week), as I am trying to figure out a better way to frame it so there isn't so much repetitive
>character A's face with speech bubble
>character B's face with speech bubble
type stuff.
>>84032801
>bring it to us sooner so you don't waste time on stuff you might excise.
Yeah I know, but I didn't really notice that I didn't like the pages all that much until just recently.
pic related is the page after these, just for context of where I'm going with it. I feel like having the previous page end on the fading echo of a joke, rather than its punchline, provides for a smoother transition.
>>84033702
oh that
ehhhh i think you're fine.. their expressions have such variety, you're zooming in and out a lot.. but you could always take a page out of sisters' book and pan up and down a bit. a shot of just legs, a shot from above, that kinda stuff.
>>84033702
Ah okay.
Things to try:
>pushing in
>pushing out
>one character per frame
>shot reverse shot
>"stage" logic with a group conversing but facing a similar direction... bonus points if they have a specific reason to do so
>insert shot of significant detail
>cutaway shot of the thing being discussed
>collage logic that combines disparate images into a single panel, like placing the insert/cutaway behind the talking figures
Maybe not all great for these particular pages, but it's a short checklist.
First two panels of the second page might use that last bit if you're looking to mix it up. Sticking something valhollish in the first BG and something silver hallish in the second. Bird sequence is good. Might be an opportunity to break the panels with the second part of the sequence if you're feeling up to it actually. Cutting from that to a down shot of the group is good. Close up for the crazy reaction is good.
Last three panels still feel like a weak note to end on, and I'm much less clear on what specific treatment would enhance what you're going for. Probably because I'm not getting what your specific goals are for that segment.
Page three is looking pretty good.
>>84029041
I finally stopped being too busy to edit your comic!
>write 1st page of story
>it's a rip off of something else you watched
God hecking dammit.
>>84034456
It happens. see >>84031052
Alri, lads. I gotta make a 12 panel comic strip for my uni portfolio. It has to be about two conflicting characters who meet a third person/object and the comic comes to a surprising conclusion.
Character A is a loner who likes character B. Character B is an asshole. B and his friends want to play a prank on A, so B invites A to a "haunted mansion". A accepts. B and his friends made a deal to meet up on the second floor of the mansion, B arrives but no one else is there. He hears that A arrived, and decides to put on a ghost costume himself, since he guesses everyone else is just late for some reason. Meanwhile A is walking around, finds some bones, then turns a corner and B scares her. A screams and runs away. B is pleased with himself and laughs, panel shows a huge disgusting monster behind him.
Is it too simple and cliche? Should I go with something 2deep instead?
>>84034630
Seems fine to me.
>when you get more mean comments than nice comments
>>84034630
What course are you applying for; something art/illustration related I assume?
For a 12 panel strip for a portfolio, then a simple story would be better. The artwork and storytelling are what is important here, and showing your ability to clearly communicate that (simple) story to someone who is unfamiliar with it.
>>84034785
>when you get no comments at all
>>84034630
>swallow
there's no way you're the swallow we know.. or you wouldnt need our advice OR uni given your portfolio
>>84035037
Probably not, last time I was here was probably last summer or so. So, who's the devilishly talented imposter?
>>84035097
A porn artist.
>>84035105
Most suspicious. Elaborate.
Godspeed to all the brits here, by the way.
>>84035097
>>84035105
yeah dude. i mean maybe i'm exaggerating a little but i got the impression you...
actually i think my memory kinda half mixed you with someone else. in any case, good on ya. dont lose what made you special.
uhhhh let's see.. that's a LITTLE cliche. i'd rather instead of just 'eh i'm bored i'll dress as a ghost' something more accidental happens that makes him look scary. coincidental lighting, walking through a bunch of dust that makes him look zombie-ish, that kinda thing.
>>84035217
my best british friend is losing his mind, he doesn't understand why it's for the best.
but on the plus side he's moving here! so I win both ways.
>>84034785
>When the only comment you get is someone telling you to kill yourself
Even filmmaker threads on /tv/ had nicer people.
>>84035264
why is it for the best?
>>84035264
>my best british friend is losing his mind, he doesn't understand why it's for the best.
I can remember when the EU didn't exist, and I'm pretty sure Nazis weren't riding dinosaurs through the streets back then.
>>84034143
That's a good list.
I don't really want to show Valhöll or the silver hall ahead of time for spoiler reasons
I think I can do something with some detail shots, though. Maybe Skalmöld petting her wolf buddy to show how the news affect her.
>Might be an opportunity to break the panels with the second part of the sequence
How were you thinking? Just breaking the panel borders?
>>84034451
>you might think it's a genetic defect, but it's really the key to my unique fighting style, learned through long years of intense meditation.
>Nobody can sneak up on you on the battlefield if you're looking in every direction at once!
>>84034630
It's simple, but there's nothing wrong with simple, especially when you only have twelve panels to work with. My one worry would be that the plot would be too based on words because the conflicts are too abstract to express in just the pictures (in my experience, portfolio people are absolutely in love with visual-only storytelling).
>>84035217
He's probably thinking of the poster that was doing a commissioned porn comic for Oban Star Racers. Lithuanian or Latvian, IIRC.
>>84035373
>>84035343
Careful now. Brexit is a discussion best saved for /pol/, not /hyw/.
>>84035426
Which is why I didn't actually speak my mind about it and opted for the bants.
>>84035247
No no, go ahead. It's fine if you get it wrong, I'm really curious what you (think you) remember. They need to meet a third object/person, it's a good idea but I don't think that would work out due to the requirements.
>>84035343
EU is a corrupt organization with too much power over free, sovereign nations. As they say, we used to get our orders from Moscow, now from Brussels. It has a lot of benefits for UK though, limits on fishing restrictions for example, less unnecessary/unskilled welfare-leeching immigrants etc, UK no longer has to give tax money to the EU (it was one of the largest contributors) etc.
>>84035382
I'll try to relay on words as little as possible, then. Will post thumbnails soon, since I have to have it ready by the first of July.
H-hey, that's me!
>Lithuanian or Latvian
Eh, close enough.
>>84035531
I think I remember who you are now (DDR incest adventure) and I was half mixing you with the guy that drew nana's daily life
>>84035382
>oban porn guy
oh no wait, okay, i was way off
okay then i'm still surprised you're going to art school since youre already damn impressive
>>84035382
Oh man I completely forgot to mention what I'm actually going for with this sequence - I want it to to be a drawn-out rise in tension to the meeting with Odinn as the reader gets to ponder what's up. Why does he want to see the main characters? Are they in trouble? How dangerous is he? What kind of god is Odinn even in this take on the Norse pantheon? What's this silver hall thing, I thought the gods of Asgard all lived in Valhalla?
Stuff like that.
>>84035531
>I'll try to relay on words as little as possible
I should probably add the qualifier that the portfolio people I have experience with are from animation school, so if you're applying for a general art school or something specialized in comics, they might well prioritize things differently (I could see a comics school being very interested in your lettering, for instance). Probably also relevant that I never actually got accepted.
>Eh, close enough.
Estonian? Could've sworn it was a Baltic country with an L, but I guess my memory's pretty terrible in general.
Which 2 /hyw/ comics that have no business doing so do you want to see cross over with each other?
>>84035589
>>84035602
It's okay, it's not like I was a very frequent poster anyway. It feels like you're stroking my micropenis right now, in that I'm shit compared to how good I want to be. B-but thanks, y-you too.
Uni/college is "free" here, so I don't have a reason not to go. I'm trying to get into animation department. There's a lot of drama going on there right now since the board decided to fire Priit Pärn, one of the most influential/well-known animators here.
>>84035731
That makes sense, I'm assuming the will also prioritize story-telling and coherency, character designs and composition. Where did you try to get in, Calarts?
Yeah, you got it.
>>84035798
Miss Melee and Carrion Girls would be a good trainwreck.
>>84036197
"not speaking the same language" is one of the better excuses for hero-on-hero fights, you'd think theyd come up more. especially with characters like wonder woman.
>>84035846
Nah, a place in Denmark called the Animation Workshop.
Very respected, from what I hear. I'd like to think I could have gotten in eventually, but one day it occurred to me that if I really wanted to be an animator like I kept telling myself, why hadn't I ever bothered trying to learn how to animate on my own in the years I'd spent applying?
>>84036197
Eh, I think Skeggöld could make a decent grey/villainous character in a superhero setting.
>millennia-old supernatural being (if she just lived into the modern era)
>martial arts master
>fate magic bullshit
>little to no care for the lives of others, but has her own code of honor
It could even tie together with the retirement theme of Miss Melee, since the Norse gods aren't widely worshiped anymore.
The power levels might be a little off, though, since Miss Melee's only power is martial arts and Skeggöld has magic bullshit on top of that. You could easily write it so that she's holding back on the magic for warrior honor reasons though.
What's up my people, got a quick question, what type of extras do y'all like from patreon? If say it was a story based webcomic what type of goodies would you like on the side? Could be physical as well , tell me tell me tell me
>>84035382
>How were you thinking? Just breaking the panel borders?
>>84029051
Treating it as a 3 panel sequence to keep it straight in my head.
Panel one could be the figure and speech bubbles over the wing from panel 2 extending behind her. The other wing would probably need to bleed into p3 if you did this, which might not work as well.
It was just a crazy notion. Might not read well in practice, but if you could get it working right I think it could look cool at least.
>>84035731
I was wondering what the silver hall was, yeah. Figured it was just something obscure enough that I haven't heard of it yet.
>>84036537
Yeah, I've heard the same. I believe there's some cooperation between the school I'm applying to and the AW (although I might be remembering wrong). What do you do now?
>>84036672
Posters or pin-ups or something like that? Physical is too risky, but maybe stickers or keychain accessories and other such.
>>84036672
One panel gag images.
K6BD style text. Or something less ambitious.
Reader cameos or art requests by drawing at intervals.
Streaming the drawing process maybe?
I'm not sure. I'm miles and miles from even thinking about that stuff yet myself.
>>84036715
Nothing much right now, I'm afraid. Tried lots of things, from library science to firefighting to auto repair, but nothing's really caught on. Currently trying my hand at playing assistant to disabled people. Nice to help, y'know? Obviously I'd like to make a living through art and comics eventually, but that's still a long ways off from being a realistic idea if I don't want to move away from all my family and friends to somewhere cheaper.
>>84036713
Hm, I'll have to give that a shot.
I'm still not too sure if I should call it the silver hall, the Shelf of the Slain, or use the Old Norse name Valaskjálf.
>>84035798
res nulius and abnor. because of the utter tone clash and different lizardpeople attitudes
>>84018245
>they've been pregnant for 12 years
>>84037526
>res nullius
Does that guy even post here anymore?
>>84037920
Is his comic dead?
>>84037920
>>84038010
no on both counts
>>84037745
Comic time is a bitch.
>tfw someone with a way more popular comic draws unsolicited fanart for you
maybe i won't kill myself today
>>84036537
Skeggold would be a complete edgelord antihero.
How do you say "nothin' personnel, kid" in medieval Scandinavian?
>>84038377
Even the feel poser is happier than me!?
>>84039350
>implying all feelposts in /hyw/ are made by one guy
we are legion
and we all know that feel
>>84038377
Well post it already kid!
>>84040196
you know they're not real, right?
So what tablets so you guys use? i'm going to order myself a waccom, still undecided if i want a small or a medium
>>84042430
cheap-ass monoprice equivalent
What's with people and gay characters?
I was telling someone about a story I'm working on that's set in the medieval time period. Anyways, I mentioned in my story that the young MC is manipulated by this older girl, and the person actually said "That's so heteronormative. Why can't it be two guys?"
>>84042635
step 1. stop talking to those people
step 2. stop talking to us people about those people (you won't have anything to say anymore because you're not talking to them)
not-being-talked-about-by-us-people will mean fewer of those people exist, making step 1 easier.
>>84042669
Sorry, I forgot to add my wojack feels image. Would that make my post acceptable for you?
>>84042729
whatjack?
your post was perfectly acceptable, i answered it honestly. your problem is that you're talking to people you shouldn't talk to. not that people-you-should-be-talking-to have a weird issue with certain things.
>>84042497
nah, Ausfag here
>>84043091
sorry, nah to what? you asked what i was using
>>84043126
oh, i thought you were recommending one.
My real question is, small or medium sized tablet? small tablet is 95 dollarydoos, medium is $160.
>>84043174
i was subtly reccommending them.. are you saying you don't have access to chinese knockoff products in australia? why? i mean, you buy them online and they get delivered to you from taiwan.
uhh mine's 9x12 active area, and i feel like i need that.. but i probably wouldn't if i had gotten used to a smaller one.
>>84038010
Not at all. Getting pretty good too.
>>84043921
well at least it's getting very actiony! after a long streak of being talky it's a good change. though it's also wearing a little thin, but i get the feeling this altercation is about to take a turn. also the slow update schedule isn't helping but that's not your fault
>>84042635
>What's with people and gay characters?
>"That's so heteronormative."
That person doesn't care about supporting gay people - they care about hating straight people. That would be like saying "That's so Zionist" if your story was about two Israelis experiencing the Crusades and Jihads from their point of view.
Never listen to people that speak with buzzwords.
>>84043921
>>84044092
This was is the same space comic with loads of text and pacing problems cause by limited and boring panel usage? My god, what a difference a year makes!
I remember him being resistant to suggestions at first, but instead of being bonesy about it he seems to have actually learned and grown.
I mean, he's still learning - who isn't? - but bravo.
>>84044883
i doubt they care about hating anyone, i think they care about caring. or rather, they care about LOOKING like they care. and bullying others around so they can take the dominant position. caring has become like buttsex, if you don't care the fuck out of the biggest guy in priz, he's gonna care you right up the ass.
i don't remember him being resistant so much as being very content with the way things were. we had to explain how the changes would help
>>84044943
>and bullying others around so they can take the dominant position
But that's still literally hate.
Love is suggestive, indifference is pensive, but hate is offensive.
>>84045055
not really. this is motivated by fear. they've simply been taught this is how you have to act to survive and thrive.
you listen to some of the, shall we say, less aggressive PC types (especially british ones), and they talk like brainwashed cult members. "no really, it's okay. try it, give in and just say what others in the room want you to, and it feels so much better. it's a huge relief not to worry about offending anyone"
fuck comics
Didn't know where to post this, but a few days ago, someone posted a webcomic from Tumblr on the front page. I liked it a lot, but I can't remember the artist's name. She's Korean-American and has an egg sweater in most of her strips. Anyone got a clue?
>>84043921
What's the name of this comic?
>>84045832
read the thread retard
>>84045860
or you could just, yknow, answer him. i'm sure you've NEVER been in his situation before, but someday you might.
>>84045832
it's res nullius
>>84045860
Shit, thought Res Nullius was just the author's name. Sorry.
>>84046175
easy stnank to mank.
i actually dont remember the author's name.. is it nunc? someone here is nunc.
>>84045753
Er, meant front page of Imgur. Please help, this has been driving me crazy.
>>84042430
Aiptek 14000U
I don't think it's even manufactured anymore.
Working on character designs for future chapters, thoughts on this girl? Does her outfit look alright?
>>84046573
Shit, here's the pic.
>>84046573
The outfit's fine, but I can't imagine the extra arms plug into her back in a believable-looking way.
And how is she reaching in front of her like that? Are her extra arms triple jointed?
>>84046439
HAHAH FOUND IT THE ARTIST IS DAMI LE
Had to google cute relationship comic tumblr our of desperation
>>84019781
you open to logo commissions ? this is spot on!
Does anyone else here take alot of time trying to reverse image search my art before I post it here?
I feel like I'm the only one who does that because I'm seriously that paranoid of someone here going through that much effort to make me feel like an idiot
>>84047529
Wait fuck phrased that wrong
>trying to reverse image search your art before you post it here?*
What do I do if I get criticism that seems objectively correct, but it clashes with what I personally enjoy drawing and seeing?
I don't want to look like a crit-dodging shitter but I also don't want to enjoy my work less to appease some alleged standard.
New page! What do you guys think?
>>84047570
Try implementing it, see if you wouldn't actually like it better that way. It happens a lot, in my experience.
Even if you don't end up liking it, you're likely to get a better idea of what it does to your work, and how you can best avoid the issues of your current technique.
>>84047570
See if there's any aspect of the crit that you think would be beneficial towards what you want.
If not, you don't necessarily have to use it. Not to say that you should go out and say "fuck all crits" but at the end of the day it should still be something you enjoy and if you're not enjoying it, it's not really your work anymore
Alternatively you could try what >>84047570
said
>>84047469
FUCK NOI don't want your money, just tell me whatcha need
>>84047685
Your art is beginning to remind me of Our Home Planet meets Adam Warren (Minus the horrible teeth, of course)
Mystery of who was in Mimi's mouth in "Smile" is solved.
Dialogue is place holder text though.
There will probably be an additional panel or 2 in the comments of this one as well.
>>84048158
damn reallly!? hells yes!
the name of my story is:
Super Brutal Super Cruel Super Hero HIghschool
>>84047570
Here's the thing about advice
Always listen do it, always consider it, but never just accept it and adopt what they say outright
somewhere out there are a whole slew of people who will shit on everything purely so that when one of their 50,000 negative predictions comes true they can smugly say "i told you so! if only you had listened to me!" and these people go insane if you don't take their advice, even on subjects they know nothing about.
>>84048669
You should add that if there's criticism that you object to, you should only try to justify your objections if you're not a complete spaz who will make himself look worse by doing so. If you don't think you can defend yourself without looking like Scribblehatch, just don't say anything.
>tfw my comic is getting reblogged all over tumblr and people are throwing money at me
>>84048795
What;s your comic?
>>84048879
>>84048906
So you don't have one.
>>84048922
Stop taking the bait
what the fuck happened to that guy? it's like he came back twice as retarded
>>84049039
I'll take as much bait as I want and you will never stop me.
>>84049117
This is also bait.
>tfw your readers are all guessing your story will go in a certain direction
>tfw you've always been planning to take it in the complete opposite direction
>>84048795
>>84048906
These are funnier than the feelposters at least.
>>84049801
But anon, they are feelposters. There's more than one type of feel in this world.
>that's so "webcomic with more updates than followers"
>>84049590
Whenever this happens to me I fear that the outcome they're not expecting will end up disappointing them.It is fun cucking the guy that most new readers will immediately expect to hook up with the heroine, though.
>>84049850
>tfw you self insert into the character who ends up getting cucked
>>84049897
Jokes on you my characters are too cheesy and trope-y for anyone to self-insert as.
>>84049897
>tfw ntr fetish
feels good man
>>84049975
>NTR where the girl is more than a slab of meat
Now that's a new one. Part of me is interested but I hate 99% of men in NTR so I'm sure it'd be a disappointment anyway.
>>84049590
You have no idea what is even going on in your own story, Bones.
>>84050077
>tfw you get mistaken for bones
>>84040196
I kept forgetting to reply to this.
A little piece from Satellite 9, author of Magical Girl Neil, based off of a Twitter thread.
http://luckyhazard.thecomicstrip.org/
two page update. couldn't find a good face to zoom in on so i used an entire panel as the preview.
>>84046592
i think her design is cute and it works well for what you're going for. baggy socks are always a plus. from an anatomy standpoint, see >>84046756's opinion. other than that it's a pretty solid design.
>>84046219
i thought nunc was that blue lizard comic guy
Whatever happened to the guy who drew the robot waifu in sundresses and straw hats and stuff? Then she ended up just being a head, and ended up in a scrapyard with a bounty hunter after her?
>>84051050
Decided to work on some art stuff and relaunch the comic once he'd sorted some things out.
>>84049829
>that's so "webcomic with exponentially growing followers per update"
>>84051050
He threw a fit because he was expecting to make money after 3 months and deleted everything.
Tomorrow I gotta find an over sized scanner.
>>84051965
Just scan it in segments. it's not too hard putting it together in gimp/photoshop
>>84052011
Yeah, I've been doing that, but I feel like I could get better resukts with a big scanner.
I might do it anyway, because I have a three page update all done but the scans.
Speaking of scanners, does anyone have a recommendation for a good scanning software? Mine only allows me to save files as pdfs and jpgs.
