So my local grocery store just started carrying nothing but Boar's Head products in their deli. All the meats, all the cheeses that I used to get are now gone and replaced with it. With it, the prices on everything have gone up as well. Today they had a sampling table and a sales rep there sampling a majority of the products and explaining the jump in cost being due to the "quality of the product" giving a whole marketing jargon thing about no GMO and gluten free and all that.
Just wondering what everyone thinks. I tried some of the stuff, and it did all seem good. But damn the price jump just seems outrageous
I've always thought they were a step up from the cheaper stuff in the deli.
Boar's Head products are pretty good. But their business practices are really fucked up. I'll never say no to them, but I try to avoid establishments owned by Boar's Head (and they DO own you) when I can.
>>7766918
>But their business practices are really fucked up
Care to expand on that?
>gluten free meat
so long have I been waiting for this
>>7767528
>exclusivity
I've actually never compared generic deli prices to Boar's Head because BH is always the only one in the case. No browsing, you just get what you get.
Their products are pretty okay. I wouldn't go out of my way to buy BH though
>>7766896
>Just wondering what everyone thinks. I tried some of the stuff, and it did all seem good. But damn the price jump just seems outrageous
To me, it's only slightly more expensive than making something yourself. In my opinion if you want crap quality deli meats, you are getting some more offal in there with your "ham product". If that doesn't bother you, then go for it.
There are a few flavors of Boars Head that seem pretty unique and craveable. I get the sausalito chicken or mesquite turkey most of the time, jerk chicken, rosemary ham, and the new pepponero garlic ham has scotch bonnet and lemongrass flavors, which in a wrap with cream cheese and cukes is my favorite summer picnic thing, makes me think of thai style sausage. Their "Marblue" sliced blue cheese makes a terrific roast beef sandwich. I'd say buy what makes it worth it to you by price, say for the pastrami, cured salami or premium hams, and ignore things basic you can get well everywhere else, or pull off your own rotisserie.
>>7767558
Boar's head prices are nearly double and their product is only moderately better.
>>7767565
That is how things tend to work. There is rarely a linear relationship between price and quality when it comes to any consumer good. Price is set by the expectation of what the consumer will pay. The person looking for the cheapest shit obviously gives no fucks about quality. The person looking for something better can obviously afford more, or they'd be buying the cheap shit. And the person looking for the best is almost always a price insensitive customer, so you can charge them practically anything.
At least their capicolla is a significant step up from the deli brand.
>>7766896
It's better than most of the "house brands" but it's still shit compared to what you'd get at a proper deli.
>>7767592
What's funny is that if you bother to look around you can find really good deli meats for much less than Boar's head. For example, I recently bought a whole country ham from Benton's. Cost me $71 and the weight was 15.1 lbs. that's less than $5/lb.
>>7767639
There are great deals out there if you're willing to pass on convenience. Most folks aren't.
>>7767787
Not much is more convenient than ordering online and having world-class ham dropped off at your doorstep a few days later. I don't even have to leave the house.
>>7767792
What does world-class ham taste like?
The Bose of lunch meat.
Better than cheap shit brands, but nothing special.
For $6 I can get a pound of Turkey Breast cooked and slice that day so I never bother
>>7767802
Fucking amazing, that's what. Ever compared proscuitto to normal supermarket ham? Take that up a level.
>>7767792
That's true. If you want the good stuff in a convenient manner you're dropping cash like a price insensitive customer. Which is fine if you have that kind of cash to blow. That's the reason specialty shops and fine dining restaurants exist.
>>7766896
Most of it is great but too pricey. I would only buy it when I worked at a bakery and got it all at half price.
Overrated.
Better than D&W though.
They are top tier as far as grocery store deli meat goes
>>7766896
>no GMO and gluten free
Boars head is good quality, but fuck this shit. Its fucking meat, of course there is no gluten in it and there are no GMO livestock yet, and neither of these things are even bad for normal people
>>7766896
It's ok but nothing amazing
>>7767565
>Boar's head prices are nearly double
Only if you were buying really fucking bad stuff before
>>7768134
Maybe they mean their animals don't feed on GMO corn? Still a BS claim that doesn't mean much
>>7768134
the difference is boars head turkey contains no added nitrate
the supermarket turkey has added nitrate
sodium nitrate is a preservative that arguably does dna damage to your cells
>>7768223
yep, thats a thing, but does not excuse them for helping the ridiculous anti-GMO/gluten mythology persist
>>7768232
there have been rat studies showing gmo corn can mutate and cause cancer in rats
its completely banned in most countries around the world
do what you want but if i want to eat corn chips its organic everytime i dont mind the extra 1$
>>7768251
>here have been rat studies showing gmo corn can mutate and cause cancer in rats
No there have not, this is a completely fake and entirely implausible
>its completely banned in most countries around the world
This is false, its only banned in a small handful of countries, an those for economic protectionism (keeping the american company out to help the local distributor that pays off the politician). There are literally zero countries that have banned GMOs at the behest of scientists or doctors or for human health considerations
>>7768262
actually it is for health concerns most of the time
and its pervasive around the world
America has lobbyists for monsanto in washington that own the FDA thats why we dont even label ours
http://www.gmo-free-regions.org/gmo-free-regions/bans.html
>>7768232
Free market does, commie
>>7768276
>America has lobbyists for monsanto in washington
They also have scientists who overwhelming say that GMOs are safe and useful. Any country that has banned GMOs have done it in direct opposition to what the academic and health communities have said in favor of lobbyists trying to get American companies out of the market to restrict competition and fuck over consumers. Don't try and turn it around and act like they only aren't banned in America because of lobbyists when the entire educated community agrees they should not be banned
>>7768296
The free market says you can say dumb things like GMOs are bad, and the public should ridicule you for them, thats exactly what is going on, no commies involved
>>7768276
>America has lobbyists for monsanto in washington that own the FDA thats why we dont even label ours
No, we do not label them because there is no logical reason to label them, especially not for the government to mandate labels
>>7768262
I don't know about that study being totally fake and entirely implausible
I always tough the issues was they used a species of lab rats that were very prone to developing tumors. Also its not ideal for rats to eat only corn which could have caused the tumors more than the fact that they were GMO
>>7768303
hello mosanto shill. Protip : proper research take 30-40 years and must be done by independent labs, witch so far never happened.
>>7768308
You're essentially arguing censorship. Not just ridicule, comrade
>>7768314
>I always tough the issues was they used a species of lab rats that were very prone to developing tumors
Well yeah. He used a strain of rats that spontaneously grow tumors and then publicize photos of the tumors with scary headlines. He did the whole hoax to sell books or something like that. The study was retracted once actual scientists analyzed it and is universally not taken seriously
>>7768276
more like public outcry from folk knowledge of "SCIENCE IS BAD" got these cucked ass countries to label shit but there is literally nothing out there that proves GMO's are bad with exception to some of the side effects it has on the industry and environment
ingesting GMOs is perfectly safe though and we have been fucking with plant genetics for many many years before such a term was ever coined
>>7768320
No, I am saying they should stop saying blatantly false things and spreading myths. Not that the government should forcibly stop them from doing it. These are very different things
>>7768316
>proper research take 30-40
LOL
So no new products or technology should be allowed to enter the market for 40 fucking years?
>>7768330
No one is saying any blatantly false things or spreading myths, you're the only one making that implication
>Not that the government should forcibly stop it
But that's exactly what you want
>>7768316
Is this a serious post?
>>7768335
If you advertise your product as GMO-free, you are actively working to spread the myth that GMOs are somehow magically harmful despite all medical and scientific evidence
>But that's exactly what you want
How did you possibly take me saying "they shouldn't do this, it makes m lose respect for them" to "the government has to stop them!!!" How did you even think I implied that I was advocating for government intervention?
>>7768345
>you are actively working to spread the myth
No, you're not. All you're doing is stating the fact that there are no GMOs present in that product.
If you want to blame someone, blame the idiot consumers who draw conclusions beyond the facts actually stated.
>>7768352
Yeah, you know way more than scientists. Some mid size mildly influential company like Monsanto has paid off all research in the world. That totally makes sense
>>7767989
>you're dropping cash like a price insensitive customer.
Not in this case. It's actually cheaper than the store brand, and about half the price of Boar's head.
>>7768361
average scientists coming out of college dont have money to start up a lab and their own private research firm
they get hired by companies to do the studies which are set up to be biased to make them look good
stop thinking the world is perfectly transparent... its ruled by big money
the internet has helped to expand human consciousness however and thats the only reason why some people are even AWARE that GMOS are a thing! You can go outside right now and most people wont even know what a gmo is even with the internet
>>7768360
>All you're doing is stating the fact that there are no GMOs present in that product.
The fact that they are stating it perpetuates the myth that that is useful information to have (and also rather ridiculous considering there are no commercially available GMO livestock)
> blame the idiot consumers
Yeah, it is their fault too, people who believe that are the fucking worst, but that doesn't let shitty marketing people off the hook for spreading anti-science myths
Its no different than the companies rewriting science textbooks to act as though creationism or intelligent design are viable alternatives to evolution. Sure you can blame it on the fact that there are dumb people who want them to makes such books, but that does not take the company off the hook
>>7768370
So you think Monsanto has paid off the entire university system in America and abroad?
It may be somewhat plausible to assert that they cooked their own internal research (though almost certainly false), but its just makes you sound fucking dumb to assert that they have bought out all scientists and even crazier their rivals' research
There have been a very large number of well designed studies trying to find any negative effects of GMOs, none have been found. Its not a god damned conspiracy, and it is utterly insane to think that all evidence is just wrong with nothing at all to support your view
>>7768371
>The fact that they are stating it perpetuates the myth that that is useful information to have
So it's just like "fat free", "low sodium", "no cholesterol", and "no sugar added"?
>> (and also rather ridiculous considering there are no commercially available GMO livestock)
Ah, but a great deal of processed deli meats contain additives and fillers, some of which come from crops.
>>7768223
>arguably
No.
This is fluoride tier conspiracy shit. It's like marketing your products as having no chemtrails.
>>7768345
>you are actively working to spread the myth that GMOs are somehow magically harmful
You're the only one remotely making that implication, retard
>How did you possibly take
Because I'm not a fucking retard and understand human linguistics. You know exactly what you're implying and what you want. Stop playing this semantic bullshit
>>7768387
>So it's just like "fat free", "low sodium", "no cholesterol", and "no sugar added"?
yep, pretty similar. Whats your point?
>>7767528
nah its all really good stuff. I remember on cut throat kitchen one of the sabotages for a turkey dinner was one of the people had to give up their fresh turkey and use a boars head turkey.
pretty terrible sabotage because the judge said the boars head turkey was the most flavorful and well cooked of them all
>>7768394
Are you just confused, or making things up?
>>7768398
>Whats your point?
I didn't have one. I was asking you a question to determine if I understood your position or not. That's why my sentence ended with a question mark and not some other form of punctuation.
>>7768384
No i think that people dont give a shit about their health and slam down processed food all day anyways they know its engineered and are accepting it
and then the studies that do exist are created by the very same businesses with a vested interest in sustaining their business
its not rocket sciene or a "conspiracy" that they want to make money
if people avoid GMO's like the plague like I do, then they dont sell crop
organic farming is becoming so huge just because people are waking up and thats what they demand
why would i want my corn altered with outside of the proper context that nature does it or selective breeding which is still natural and safe
>>7768415
So you are saying that points cannot be made with questions? Seems like a pretty ridiculous stance
>>7768398
>pretty similar
Dietary cholesterol is literally verifiable without a doubt bad for you
Seems like you're just pushing an agenda
>>7768425
>and then the studies that do exist are created by the very same businesses with a vested interest in sustaining their business
There is a vast wealth of studies by independent universities
>>7768402
Poor poor damage control
>>7768428
No, I'm saying that I did not intend to make a point. Where did I say anything about people or points in general?
You seem to be prone to drawing conclusions that aren't there; that's my observation.
>>7768432
there is no link between dietary cholesterol and blood cholesterol
>>7768425
Lol yeah, Organic farming is totally not a big business, its just little farmer guys who don't want to make any money!!
>why would i want my corn altered with outside of the proper context that nature does it or selective breeding which is still natural and safe
This cannot be a serious statement, right? First of all nature is bad, it is generally trying to kill you, second of all, how the fuck is selective breeding natural
>>7768436
theres vast wealths of studies contrary
well not really too vast because non-gmo people dont have multi billion dollar corporation/univerrsity support
and yes they do control whats in the textbooks that the professors use which then teach to the students...
youve got to understand the context of this world. the more monopolized the media and the universities and the education and even the food corporations the less freedom and transparency
you wish and believe that there were 3rd party auditors for everything but the reality is that you need an auditor for the auditor
>>7768441
Sorry, that's just not true, evident since 1976
>>7768352
I'm pretty sure you're just a master baiter, but if not...
>literally first line in the "movie" is factually wrong as he defines genetic engineering as taking one species and forcing the DNA from another species into it
Stopped watching there, although I already knew what to expect from a truther-level source such as "watch this MIND BLOWING movie than is only on youtube"
>>7768454
There has yet to be a single legitimate reputable, peer reviewed study suggesting GMOs are harmful to human health despite the fact that a very large number have tried
>>7768455
um, pretty sure thats false. There are plenty of studies correlating blood cholesterol to poor health, but very little evidence to suggest dietary cholesterol leads to high blood cholesterol (though other dietary factors certainly affect it)
>>7768455
if you eat cholesterol your body will have more cholesterol, if you eat meat your body will have more meat, if you eat a brick your body will have more bricks
that's the flawed logic behind people thinking cholesterol is bad for you. They forget about this thing called digestion where foods part where get broken down for parts like a mustang parked in a mexican neighborhood
>>7766896
anyone else find it unbearably funny that they don't even sell boar heads?
>>7768806
Nope.
>>7767639
You bought in bulk and got bulk pricing bro.
