>Lolita guidebook: http://thelolitaguidebook.tumblr.com
Anyone preordering new Moitie? Or are we still awaiting its imminent collapse?
>>8987667
Really want this, but have such a hard time justifying 20k.. But I don't want MmM to go bust.
Halp.
>>8987672
it will be a summer lifesaver and you will look so pretty
>>8987673
I'd do anything for Mana.
>>8987667
I like this instead of linking all the other threads in the catalog.
>>8987674
>>8987679
Best girl approves.
>>8987682
they can take our god out of the GLB but they can't take him out of our hearts
>>8987679
>I need to feed my aging grandparents
Time to open up that cat food...
>>8987667
Is it really going to go bust? I see a few things on their shop I wouldn't mind, but everything is just so expensive.
>>8987691
Together you're the only one
>>8987694
>but everything is just so expensive
I feel like most dresses I've bought were at or around 30,000 yen?
>>8987694
Probably not, but anons have been pretty concerned for a while.
>>8987667
I've never bought directly from Moitié since I usually go for older pieces...Do I need to use a shopping service?
>>8987730
There is cdjapan that sells it, but I have also just used a SS because they didnt mark down and I aint into 100$+ customs.
>mfw i have enough money saved to buy one $1k dress and it won't hurt the budget at all
>mfw fuck yeah i'm gonna do this, fucking hyped
who here has bought any of the $1k+ dresses before? deets? how did the sale go, were you in bid wars or not, was it all worth it in the end? how did others react to your new dress? anything else interesting, etc.
>>8987751
Are you the one buying that CTP?
>>8987879
no, actually, but i can't say i wouldn't get that print later on if i was able to.
>>8987912
Same. How long did it take you to save up?
Sorry I can't help with the buying dresses story part. Most stuff I've gotten was like 350 at most.
Will probably drop 600ish on a Holy Lantern OP before October but that's as high as I'm gonna go for the time being.
One day though, I will totally spend 1k on something like CTP.
>>8987921
Not that anon, but I just can't do it for CTP. I'm not in love with pink or grey for my wardrobe, though the print is adorable. It just seems too high for something I only moderately like. I do love cats though which does make me want it...
>>8987921
it actually didn't take me very long to save
i made a $300 sale, and the rest was already in my savings, which i build up monthly. so it feels pretty awesome tbqh.
one sale can really make all the difference.
good luck with holy lantern
>>8987935
I don't know how to feel about the grey colorway. I'd totally want a rerelease if it meant getting other colors.
Oh well secondhand market means jackshit.
>>8987977
Thanks! I just sold my milky cross cause the bust was tiny, for about 300. I agreed to a payment plan so I've only got the first half of it as I really wanted it gone.
>>8987983
I'd love a rerelease with more colorways. But that'll be a bloodbath and I'm sure there'll be loots of scalpers trying to get in on that. I bet others would just try to buy it because they have the chance, but just want to resell. It'd honestly be a nightmare.
>>8988004
>mfw if there was a rerelease i could probably buy two of them in different colorways
all of my prayers for something that will likely never happen
>>8987667
if it didn't have the stupid text, i'd get it. i don't mind the text usually but it looks more awkward than usual in this print.
>>8987672
Do it, give mana-sama your money so he can continue to buy kawaii botox and be our immortal overlord. I know I really love this one and I'll probably be picking it up if my paycheck drops on time. Like the other anons said, perfect for summer.
>>8988004
>CTP rerelease
just imagine the horror that would be a CTP rerelease. AP website goes down before it even comes out, stores catch fire, thousands perish in the battle. The only people who manage to land one are the scalpers, who turn around with over quadruple the current selling price. The day will forever be remembered as the bloodiest battle in lolita history.
>>8988214
>AP over stocks now
>website doesn't crash
>usual amount of Chinese girls fly out to japan for release day to buy them all up
>get it secondhand for only 900 instead of 1000
>>8988224
This isn't a secret club to have inside lingo in.
>>8988219
Cat Tea Party
>>8987674
I haven't been browsing /cgl/ much lately. Is Mana still kicked out of the GLB? I found that so damn sad, I really hope that he will be able to return.
>>8988227
>mfw I dont even care about helping out new fags
>i-i just want to be helpful....
I tend to see a lot of skirts being bought, but I hardly ever see anyone wear skirts or post skirt coords. Does anyone else notice this?
>>8988254
They're only for casual lolita and if you don't wear them correctly it won't even be lolita anymore.
>>8988225
tbqh imo even 900 is more afforable and reasonable than 1000 and especially moreso than 1k+
is lolibrary down again or is it just me?
>>8988270
just stop mentioning her ffs or you'll get the thread derailed again
>>8988256
>skirts are only for casual lolita
100% wrong
>>8988256
>>8988283
exactly why we need to stop mentioning her
come on guys let's just talk about lolita fashion for once, please?
>>8988272
Yeah, it's been down all night. Really frustrating, whenever I need lolibrary is when it isn't available.
>>8988295
Do you know the piece you need to look up?
Or are you just browsing/can't remember?
If you know the name, you can search for it + lolibrary in google, then pull the page up in google cache to view the measurements and photos. Otherwise, bit sol.
>>8988321
Already did that, thanks anyway mate. It's just a pain in the ass to have to go back and find stuff like that, dammit lolibrary.
>>8988274
I think it was in particular reference to MmM skirts
>>8988004
I regulary dream of getting both colorways in a rerelease. Grey for keeping, pink for scaling. And I know I'll totally gonna do that unless it's a MTO. Don't ask me how I'll get them in the first place, because I will.
>>8988335
Don't think so, but if so it is still wrong.
Any thoughts on this issue posted to Rufflechat? I initially thought she'd accidentally clicked a third party link, but she's certain she has not. Not the OP by the way.
Can anyone ID this dress? All I know is that it's F+F. The seller didn't know the name and I haven't found anything like it on the F+F Facebook page.
>>8988413
>>8987667
I might get the bolero, but what I really hope for is a long OP. A girl can dream.
>>8987709
I don't mind the dress prices so much, however some of the blouses/tops (the ones with almost no tailoring to them) seem a little pricey to me.
Some of the blouses are really cute, though.
>>8988450
>someone really needs to get in touch with the mods
Haha, no. They have 100s (if not more) of unanswered messages already. They just don't give a shit.
>>8988413
Just proves again how terrible fakes are
>>8988514
Around the time he turned 100.
>>8988413
There's no way PayPal can be this dumb. Just keep appealing. What else can she do.
>>8987672
Do it. Moitie has always been good quality and it can work in almost any sub-style on top of being in season.
Bonus: Mana is like our gothic lolita god and it's like his shrine is having trouble lately. Throw him some of your money.
Apparently giving concrit is "toxic" and "bullying" and people need to be defended from it. Wish I knew who this chick was so I could purposefully trigger her with concrit. I'm assuming she's talking about the girl who wore T-shirt type tops with her skirts.
Where do you gulls get your dress forms? I want one for my new apartment but it doesn't have to be fancy, just something simple and not too expensive.
>>8988581
Antique stores sometimes have them.
>>8988581
Hancocks is going out of business and they carry "decorative" dress forms (the ones with the fancy base stand). They should be 40% off right now.
>>8988580
Fucking stupid. No one even said anything mean. It's like if you dare to say you don't like something it's bullying and harassment. People should really look up what those words mean, because neither was done on either of her CoF posts.
>>8988615
Good. With no moderation and no one running the site it's a miracle it's lasted as long as it has.
>>8988580
giving concrit and being an asshole are two different things anon
I agree that she sounds overdramatic but there -have- been lots of assholes on CoF lately. It's not /cgl, so don't post like it is
>>8988619
Can you give an example? I haven't noticed any mean comments on CoF.
>>8988580
/thread
>>8988615
Now we can finally stop using lacemarket and paypal please
>>8988629
There were some comments on that person's post specifically that sounded too /cgl to me, and got erased real quick by the mods. One of the commenters called it out afterward. And I remember some on a beard-lita's coord as well.
Unfortunately I don't care enough to take caps of anything, much less go scrolling forever to find it again. If I don't like, I don't comment and move along, so I don't understand why people use up their energy to bother shitting on a coord that's gonna get buried under a bunch of posts and nobody's gonna remember anyway
>>8988651
What would you suggest instead? It's true that LM is not the best, and neither is Paypal, but at this point I'm not sure about other options that aren't as shady or more. At least I have some buyer protection under paypal.
This is from RC. Wow. Can someone please explain to me how this isn't racist by tumblr standards? This chick literally just called an entire country unhealthy for not conforming to western beauty standards. This type of attitude is why I can't take half of women seriously anymore.
>>8988214
If they did, it will be just like a HL MTO only it will have 5 MTOs and people are going to be so sick of it that they will sell theirs for $50
still wish it would happen
>>8988658
I see, so I was just not quick enough to read the now deleted stuff.
Not a big loss though; like you I only look at the pics and don't comment. There's no point trying to discuss anything via comments on FB anyway - people will not easily admit that their adversary may have a valid point, since the discussion is not private.
IIn the end, it's just frilly dresses (or non-frilly tshirts, in this particular case), not the recipe for world peace, so why bother.
>>8988667
I'd be okay with this. I'd still wear it privately and it would be great to see the face of this one girl in my comm who bought it for like $1000 just to lord it over everyone else.
>>8988662
Oh for fucks sake can we just ban all these whiny babies from the internet forever. Considering that anything and everything they see seems to trigger them, it would be a kindness.
>>8988662
>all these bitter fatties
why tho
I got a reply back from Malco Modes!
"Thanks for the input, *******!
I will forward your request to our production team.
This may be something we can add to our line in the future.
Thanks again !"
If anybody wants a bell-shaped petticoat from Malco Modes, please join me on my email campaign.
Advantages of Malco Modes:
Fast shipping to US
Adjustable lengths
Wide range of sizes
Made of chiffon (very soft)
Good quality
Poofy
Random topic but anyone want to discuss strawberry prints.
I really prefer the old ones where the strawberries are really focused near the bottom with a simpler pattern up top. Now its busy all over and its not my thing...
>>8988692
Woah what an awesome idea anon ! I'll contact them as well. Anons could probably also tweet/comment/whatever to them about it as well
>>8988693
This is my fav recent berry print, here's hoping it pops up for auction somewhere
>>8988662
This is completely xenophobic by any standard and could probably be construed as racism too, good god. Every day I hate tumblr femuhnists more and more, all they do is throw other women under the bus for their own validation.
>>8988692
Oh god, yes please. MM pettis are soooo nice and soft, I'd love a bell shape from them. Mine has been through hell and it's still absolutely perfect for me. Definitely going to shoot them an email.
>>8988693
i totally know how you feel, i've been collecting strawberry dresses for a long time and recently i've been uninspired to buy the new ones.
there are a few exceptions, but i generally like the berries to be bigger and focused as a border print too.
>>8988699
Aww really cute anon! I wish you luck. Meta is rad af
>>8988712
Why all the meta hate recently...
I'm not like a true fan of meta, I only have 1 of their dresses. They are really hit or miss but when they hit, they hit hard and produce really nice and underrated stuff.
>>8988715
It's just mixedracetiddies. Ignore, report, etc.
>>8988715
don't reply when they post unhelpful comments like that anon, it encourages shitposting.
i'm ok with everyone hating meta, more for me.
>>8988692
I sounded like an autistic esl in my email, but I sent one! I realized while on the website, that I actually own the Savannah petticoat that I got at a thrift store a few years ago. It's awesome and super fluffy, but it's ancient and the elastic needs to be replaced. I'd totally pay $60 for a high quality bell.
I mentioned "me and others in the lolita community" idk if that was a good idea or not. But I thought that letting them know that there would be a large community of people that would be interested in that product.
Please help, anons.
>>8988662
I love how these type of people are so for empowerment and yet she'll look at the Japanese girl and say "No. Fuck you. Your culture is wrong and you just aren't well informed enough to understand. I'm not going to read what you said at all because I know you're wrong." Like that's such a fucking slap in the face.
>>8988699
I love this one too, I want it in white or pink.
My favorite print combos are probably gingham and strawberries, I recently got IW's strawberry gingham and it's so cute and summery.
There've been a number of simplistic strawberry prints on taobao I quite like too, I've been considering this one in black for casual wear.
>>8988743
Sorry, I'm just jumping in on this. So we're just emailing MM asking for bell-shaped pettis?
>>8988748
Yeah, pretty much!
>>8988552
I see the OP go for 600 on auction sites pretty regularly
>>8988743
I just mentioned that I love their Jennifer model and would love to have a bell-shaped petti from them. Making them aware that there is a huge community that would buy their product is probably a good thing!
>>8988696
>>8988709
>>8988743
>>8988748
Anyway, thanks for joining me, anons! I really am super happy with my A-line from MM, and I'd be glad for a high quality petticoat that doesn't take months to make like MLT.
>>8988693
I got Berry Garden in a trade a while ago and completely fell in love with it when I received it. Not a fan of the latest strawberry releases from AP though
>>8988692
I emailed! I'd love for this to happen finally!
>>8988693
The top three are among my dream dresses
The last two I just don't understand. Melty berry never looked good to me, and the newest one looked unbalanced
>>8988659
I haven't used paypal in years but maybe its easier because I'm european and don't usually buy from americans. I don't remember the url but there's a whole website dedicated to alternatives for paypal, you can probably find it easily.
>>8988662
This mindset is so ridiculous. The average Japanese woman is 5'2", even if you're visibly chubby at that height you'll still won't have huge measurements. Most lolita brands have shirring and would fit a western woman of average height and size (i.e. not fat), I get tired of people that are so fucking bitter over not being able to fit into brand. Your unhealthy body image comes from yourself, not from Japan.
>>8988746
Sauce on this dress? It's adorable!
>>8988580
>physically bullied out of the safe space
>physically
>???
Did she smash her head against the screen reading a FB comment or what?
>>8988885
Here!
>https://world.taobao.com/item/527627133995.htm?fromSite=main
>>8988580
>safe space
>hobby
I will just never get this. I'm in various hobbies, too. They're not sanctuaries or something. If anything, a lot of communities just naturally have some form of drama.
>>8988958
But I want my cake and to eat it too anon. Bend over backwards for a stranger because of my feefees. Bloobloobloo.
>>8988715
It's all the same person.
>>8987667
>170 cm tall
>104 cm bust
I would buy all the MMM if I could fit into it.
>>8988580
The girl with the Meta coord didn't flounce from CoF so I have no idea where this chick got the idea she was "bullied out of the group". Oldschool Meta-chan has been in the fashion long enough to have a thicker skin than that.
>>8988256
How new are you?
How ruffled would the lolita/jfash ion communities' feathers be if a cam girl wore it as part of her show? What would the chances of her identity being uncovered if she's a lone lolita who doesn't post online?
>>8988580
>lolita as a safe space
How is it possible to be this fucking new? This is literally why I didn't get into the fashion until I was mature enough to handle concrit. It has NEVER been a """"safe space """"
>>8988651
Oh OK, great idea Scammy McGillicuddy. Who needs feedback or buyer and seller protection anyway? Why not just mail each other money orders with only law enforcement and the court system to protect us
>>8988799
Yeah, but what do you use that offers buyer protection? Everything I've looked into had higher fees or no buyer/seller protection.
>>8988991
Pretty ruffled I imagine, considering how ruffled the community has been in the past with girls who cammed but didn't involve lolita in it. If you're an unknown lonelita though, it's unlikely people will actually bother to track you down, if they even find out in the first place. At worst someone might post you here or on BtB saying "look at this slut ita"
>>8988991
No one cares if you're an edgy shit.
OK I know this question has been asked in similar formats, such as 'how do I become efamus!?!?'
But gulls, if you physically HAD to try making yourself lolita/jfash efamous (for some reason you have to try to be efamous or you die, I don't know, insert a better reason here), what would you do?
And you're still you, so we're going by your personal morals here. Would you pull a Kate or would you try being genuine?
>>8989026
I'd shitpost so hard people would pay me to stop.
>>8989026
>buy a better camera and a tripod and learn how to use it
>post all coordinates to CoF rather than just a fraction of them
>put links to other social media accounts in CoF posts
>set up a tumblr and lookbook and ensure the layout and theme is beautiful, then post coordinates at least twice a week
>follow other popular blogs and reblog their stuff so they notice me
>spend more money to ensure all coordinates are on point
>become more active in local community and step up to organize stuff
>get involved in the organization of national events
You might have more success trying to keep buying the latest releases and constantly rotate stuff in and out of your wardrobe to be able to afford that, but personally I prefer to buy stuff I like enough to keep so I'd probably do better trying to do a niche style really well. I probably wouldn't bother with vlogs either because I detest hauls and there isn't that much other original content to put out there.
>>8988693
omg I love the strawberry parlour op, but it's high-waisted and...muh bust.
>>8988667
Except, HL is still selling near retail after its MTOs and the only ones sick of it are salty gulls. Obviously a lot of people still like it since there are lots of girls wearing it, and there was a lot less selloff than what was predicted here. Sure some people only desire prints based on rarity/status, but most people want what they want because they like the way it looks.
I imagine CTP would be largely the same.
>>8989085
You're making your assumptions too early. The HL craze is still fresh, in a little over a year people will start to become disenchanted and things will be different. Just think of how much Sugary Carnival or Milky Planet used to go for.
>>8989044
>>8989026
I'd Twitch wearing full OTT coords, with a new game/ play through every day.
>>8988662
Sometimes I wonder how mad these people would be if they found out that here in Japan we literally have "counseling and reeducation" for people over 40 but under 75 years if their waist exceed something around 90cm. If overweight people don't lose weight they go on forced medical diet and their company may be taxed. It's because being too fat causes diseases that everyone has to pay for for healthcare. If one company has many overweight people the government thinks maybe these people have no time to excercize. I think these girls really think that being too fat doesn't cause medical problem though...
>>8989117
Lol Ive had this idea before when joking with my bf
I also ended on the idea of dressing in full coords and holding "tea parties" on cam where you pretend the viewers are with you. I bet a lot of sad people would donate to that.
>>8988662
All the responder said was that being small doesn't make Japanese people unhealthy/that statistically they have less of a body image problem and the OP jumped down her throat with "you're calling everyone fat". That doesn't logically make any sense tho. The responder said nothing about anyone being fat or even anything about brand lol
>>8989145
ngl that sounds like a fun idea, like a virtual tea party for you and your mates
who wants to virtual tea party with me
>>8989141
Weird question, but would this policy include the few sumo wrestlers who retire late and are still wrestling after 40?
>>8989162
I actually do not know! It is very interesting. I think because they participate in a cultural sport that they may be exempt. Most sumo do not lose all that weight easily haha
>>8988662
>by tumblr standards
>tumblr standards
>tumblr
anon.....
>>8989183
What? These cunts are whining about fat phobia and body shaming etc etc etc. I'm sure they're the type to whine about racism too and yet they treated that girl in a manner that if this post was on tumblr would have been considered racist/ignorant/bigoted whatever.
>>8989141
part of that has to do with the fact that east asians are more susceptible to fat-related diseases
>>8989187
>implying this is not a larger issue in the states already
>>8989200
nah, i'm just saying that asians have a higher motivation to stay un-fat because we start getting the diseases at a lower weight than non-asians.
>>8989189
Is this a reference to something?
>>8989237
I won't tell you and it will keep eating at you until the end of your days.
>>8988662
Please look up the definition of the word racist
>>8989237
It's a reference to a porn stream. Girl yells she's thirsty, little brother hears her and brings her a juice box.
>>8989338
Yeah, it's not racist in the classic sense of racism, where certain races are superior. That doesn't stop her from having a terribly fucked up point of view. She just using Japan as a scapegoat for her own issues.
>>8989160
Me!!!! What's a good site for conference call public streaming
>>8989338
>By tumblr standards
>>8989451
I've got no idea but if someone finds one I'm game
>>8989200
>larger issue
kek
>>8989160
mfw I'd really like to do this
>>8988991
Some girl did this and posted on /soc/. Aren't her pictures still being passed around with the words slut and whore written on the caps? People will remember.
>>8989488
lmao was that the time she posted her coord to cgl and then at the same time was showing her ass of and shit on /soc/? she was wearing a white dress if iirc
>>8989499
Yeah, that's the one I'm referring to. The incident happened almost two years ago and I'm pretty sure it was recently shared on BtB again.
>>8989487
Name the date and time and I'll join you all.
>>8989487
I'll join up! I can be on point from the waist up!
>>8989879
Ngl this can get out of hand if not secured right so OP should use throwaway emails or smth so not just random lurkers can be invited. Otherwise I'd be in too!
>>8989898
Require everyone to drink tea with pinkies out. If no pinkie, you're out. Something equally inane will also do to weed out the riff raff.
>>8988662
You'd be surprised by the amount of fatties I hear talk about this.
>they're just trying to import their thin culture and don't care about fat people!
Or maybe Japanese are tiny, seldom obese, and it's a Japanese fashion mostly made for small asian girls. The projection these "victims" have is amazing.
>>8989911
Do you try to be this dense, or does it come naturally to you?
>>8989160
I'd start by posting a google form here so you can gauge interest and figure out the best time for most people so you can get the most bang for your buck.
>>8988991
Honestly? Nobody really cares. There's a niche market for proper lolita porn in JAV, some trolls like to fish it on here, but aside from some shocked newb nobody even bothers responding.
You should be more concerned that even in Japan it's only a niche market, it's going to be an even smaller market on the Western side. There's better money to be made using other gimmicks than lolita clothes.
Obviously, if you were to join a lolita comm later on, there's always a chance someone or someone's boyfriend does recognise you, shit comes back to bite you, you get banned/shamed from communities, but that's really no different from the norm where anyone might recognise you anywhere and give you shit, anyway.
>>8989926
about what? Mana not being in the GLB anymore or why his nose is more visible in the photos posted than in what people are used to seeing?
>>8989111
nayrt, but as a counter:
Certain cuts/colours of Cosmic and DDC are still trading nearly at retail, despite having been out for years. DDC was the first MTO, a lot of girls did jump on it and it did flood the market at some point, it's just rare to find sellers willing to sell below retail except around sales season, so the prices stayed pretty high.
Then there's Celestial, the day the MTOs shipped out the prices went right back up to 800USD, it's a little lower now that the market's a bit slow, but still trading above retail.
I think it really is too soon to tell if HL prices will start coming down or it joins the ranks as one of those dresses whose price remains high. For one thing, it hasn't been dethroned yet as the best Halloween print series/sweet-gothic dress AP has ever made.
Anyone got any tips for straightening out that lovey thick lace Baby uses for detailing? I've got some that's mushed and bent up on dresses I can't iron. Would getting the lace damp and shaping it work?
>>8989986
I know people will hate me for this but the gothic-sweet feel with HL perfectly exemplifies 'bittersweet' to me, or what it should be rather than tacky bone dresses or any random sweet print in black. It just ticks every box for me as someone who likes Kawaii shit from growing up in 90s pastels but discovered Lolita through Victorian goth. I have paid scalper prices for a lot of my stuff ($500 total for Gardenberries, $600 for British Bear, $300 for a Meta miniskirt) so I told myself to wait a year after the MTO to get the Holy Lantern high waist jsk in wine. I'm short and they've apparently made them longer now though...
>>8990017
Steam it
>>8990032
>know people will hate me for this but the gothic-sweet feel with HL perfectly exemplifies 'bittersweet' to me, or what it should be rather than tacky bone dresses or any random sweet print in black
i'm with you, anon.
i also think "pastel goth" lolita could have worked if wearers wore actual gothic brands instead of sweet in black colorways.
there is a goddamn mint Boz jsk on LM, i dare someone to buy it and goth it up. i fucking dog-dare somebody to do it.
![C3018[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LDSJgV5.jpg "C3018[1].jpg")
>>8990017
This kind? As an alternative to steaming, you can wet it then GENTLY yank it straight in the direction it's supposed to lie in.
>>8989907
Shoe on head?
>>8989909
Oh hey ooo, theres an online comm on google hangouts? I like googlehangouts and used to be part of an /ic/ group there. Would love to have more excuses to dress up in lolita < 3
>>8989141
Sometimes I wish my country would do something similar, because also have a public healthcare system that everyone pays for and while we're nowhere near US/UK/Mexico levels of fatness, the number of overweight people is definitely growing. I work in a hospital and it's baffling how many hospital employees are morbidly obese. You'd think they would know better.
>>8990032
In 5'2 and the zipper jsk feels short even on me, I wouldn't worry about it.
>>8990181
ofc I forgot the link
and ofc 4chan thinks the link is spam
short URL in pic, sorry gulls
>>8990038
>>8990168
This REALLY warms my heart anons. I feel like Royal Princess Alice and Diamond Honey kind get it in a Tumblry sense but not quite in the more refined way HL does it. I see successful pastel goth coordinates amongst the trash where neither the gothic nor sweeter elements look shoehorned, but almost no good lolita versions
>>8990074
And sharpie in the petti.
>>8988522
I can, paypal is the devil
>>8990202
On the topic of HL, does anyone think some kind of rerelease might happen again? Maybe not another MTO, but just another release down the line. I think bringing back some of their older colorways like navy + even some new colors would be a hit. Imagine mint Holy Lantern.
>>8990255
Mint sounds awful. A lovely teal like that replica though would be perfect.
>>8990345
>teal
>replica
Both of those sound awful. I'd like to see pictures, though.
>>8990345
>shitting on mint
>but likes the idea of teal
>like the replica
this has to be b8
>>8990345
I've seen that! It looked good, even if it is a replica.
>>8990442
>>8990466
I hate it.
>>8989519
>two years ago
Christ, it feels like yesterday.
>>8990466
Blacks don't match.
>>8990477
what are some words i can search in the archive to find this? i missed all the happening. i know my friend got caught doing dumb shit on soc once, i wonder if same person?
How often do you guys buy things that aren't in your preferred colorway?
Like my preferred colorway is usually always black, but I've been finding all of my wishlist dresses for cheap on auction in like ivory, brown, etc. I've bought a few of them, but part of me feels like I should have saved my money to wait for the colorway I really wanted
>>8990466
Another pic of it
>>8990639
>mintxblack is too harsh of a contrast
so we're ignoring every colorway that exists except wine and navy? I wasn't aware
>>8990644
I actually dont hate this
>>8990649
It's pretty terrible.
>>8990639
>it would look amazing
Anon, are you having a stroke? It looks so bad.
>>8990652
Objectively, I know. But I still kind of enjoy it.
Send help.
>>8990675
I don't like a color, I say I don't like it, so I am mad? Just because someone expresses an opinion different than yours doesn't mean someone is "XD so le mad."
You like it? That's fine. I dont, and guess what? That's fine too.
>>8990490
Maybe try "soc" or variations because someone linked the thread? I don't remember what the exact posts were. I vaguely remember it was a fairly new dress she bought?
>>8990675
At least she got trips.
so we've established that sales are low/partially nonexistant as of lately, right?
any chance they'll start moving again significantly as International Lolita Day approaches? or were sales normal around the time last year?
>>8990712
it's been super slow for me the past couple months. my prices aren't high or anything, i don't know what's up.
>>8990754
i think it's like that everywhere tbqh.
i've read articles about how it's happening with normal retail stores too, ever since christmas. i myself use ebay for non-lolita things and they're not moving at all there either. there's tons of complaining about low/nonexistant sales over there too, on the forums.
>>8990678
Because anon stated other anon's opinion indicated they must have had a stroke, so. The u mad accusation holds true.
>I'm going to say your opinion sucks
>But saying my opinion sucks is unfair cause it's just like, my opinion man
Teal looks amazing, I'm so down for unusual jewel tones. Of course you'll get the "hurdur it's a replica looks like shit" even though we're talking about color. It's like the "expensive wine tastes better" phenomena when it comes to replicas, but in reverse.
>inb4 a greentext of exactly everything horrible about the replica
So is there a tag on tumblr for lolita that's used for more quality coordinates? Not trying to start a /cgl/ sekrit club, but I feel like the "lolita fashion" tag has gotten pretty shitty, just like the normal "lolita" tag. I like the concept of tumblr, but I just want to see more quality coordinates from other westerners, less AP releases, Chinese reposts, and the usual ita shit.
>>8990761
I don't bother following tags anymore. I recommend just filling your following list with decent blogs instead.
>>8990759
Something with the economy? I'd like to hear why there's a lull for some reason.
>>8990761
I usually search lolita fashion or sweet lolita (since thats my interest). But searching by brand can be ok too.
No matter what you got to shift through the shit really
>>8990466
>>8990644
Original mint anon here. It's cute. Why not both? The more colorways, the better.
I actually think HL would've been the perfect print to experiment with an orange colorway, especially because a lot of girls bought it with Halloween in mind.
Maybe one day we can become pumpkin lolitas.
>>8990759
same thing on /toy/ haha
>>8990638
That depends on whether I like other colorways as well, otherwise I never settle for anything but my preferred colorway. If I like a specific JSK in black I'd never buy it in brown no matter how rarely it pops up, it just wouldn't be the same.
>>8990638
I do it frequently and often really end up liking what I got. Plus I save money buying less popular colorways, which is nice when it doesn't end up looking good on you
>>8990797
yeah... like, we keep hearing the economy's supposedly gotten better (in the US at least, anyway) but then shit like this happens which makes one wonder
>>8990638
Only once and much regrets to be honest.
If I have my heart set on a certain colorway, cut, or both. I only hunt for that version. I know I wont be 100% happy if I just settle for something else. I recently got a dream dress of mine but thankfully I liked 3 of its colorways, so it makes it a bit easier to get.
>>8990847
Speaking about economy stuff.... Does anyone else feel sort of bad spending so much money overseas? Any money that I spend for fun (not bills, food, etc) is almost always from China or Japan. Even a lot of gifts I buy are overseas since my friends have nerdy interests, I can find good deals online, or online just has cooler things.
If I was rich I would try to buy more shit from within my country.
>>8990866
i feel bad about this also. i make up for it by buying indie designer things from my country. nothing as big as a JSK, but accessories, jewelry, and such. i try to thrift often too and avoid spending money on huge corporations.
hit up vintage or craft markets, and prioritize AAs over dealer's room when you go to cons. your dollar will be more likely to help a fellow citizen that way (even if they source their mats from China or Japan... they still gotta pay bills locally).
>>8990866
I think about that sometimes too, but then I realize there's usually a local type of lolita store you can support. I live in the US, so I try to buy from the AP USA, both the BtSSB stores, and places like Tokyo Rebel.
Could you please help me identify those 2 dresses? (pic related) I tried using Google reverse image search, but I didn't find anything. [1/2]
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>>8990760
>defending replicas
>defending what is literally art theft
you should kill yourself
>>8990922
Replicas in new colourways are not art theft, they are creating new but highly derivative art that did not exist prior.
>>8990983
>you tried
MISTY SKY AGAIN WHAT THE FUCK??!
>>8990983
I'm pretty sure keeping the print identical save for the background color is still stealing art.
>>8990988
This is stupid at this point. We're getting flooded with bad HL coords and here comes misty sky shit all over.
>>8990988
>mfw i was thinking of selling my op soonish
>rerelease the nth
welp.
>>8990988
I might get a navy jsk and hair clip in navy, CT isn't doing orders though. No idea who else I should solicit for SS.
>>8990986
no good?
>>8991011
i can't even give it a 0/10 tbqh
>>8990988
I kind of cackled when I saw. So many people were praying for something like Loyal Rosette or CTP, and I fucking knew it was going to be Misty Sky or yet another round of HL.
>>8990993
the ops were up to $600 ish again just before this was announced. makes me wonder what will happen with this release, and how high they may get again after. they didn't really have the time to reach 1k again this time.
>>8991018
>Misty Sky the nth
>never CTP
why even live
>>8990922
>literally said nothing about whether or not replicas are okay
>knew that, by the mere posting of a replica to discuss the merits of a diff HL colorway, people would turn it into a replica debate
alright so this thread will go to shit
>>8991034
diff but lmao what
girl you don't exclusively own those as "dream dresses"
>>8990988
I used to want the OP so badly but now I'm not even sure I want it anymore.
I'll probably still get one if they do a MTO for it just because. I think chances are high that they will.
>>8990890
From Excentrique, it's a vest + skirt. It's called "beefeater", which is kinda hilarious. They have a lot of stuff that looks like this too.
>>8987673
>>8987729
>>8988210
>>8988557
I love what spending enablers you are.
I've always thought of Mana as a funny figure in lolita like Mr. Yan.
In a lolita music thread awhile ago, someone linked a Malice Mizer album and fuck, I was hooked. My love for Malice Mizer has grown considerably the last couple of months even though I'm not into the gothic aesthetic at all. It made me really respect Mana, holy shit. I want to buy this bolero because I've never given Mana money before..
The funny thing is 10 years ago, my boyfriend at the time linked me a Malice Mizer video, but I wasn't into lolita and only into girly shit. I wrote it off as weird very quickly. I wish I wasn't so close minded back then.
Sorry for blog post.
>tldr; sorry mana i ever put you at the same level as mr yan. take my money
>>8991039
last time they were bombarded with emails for an MTO despite all the rereleases and basically went "lol no"
>>8991036
No, I don't own the concept of them as dream dresses, but it's douchey to not even try finding it yourself.
I'm not the anon that posted the collage, but just seeing the buzz around my actual dream dress is frustrating. Brand wagoning.
>>8990892
This one is Hunting and Feasting from Anna's Secret or whatever the hell they're calling themselves now
>>8988979
not a newfag but very new to gothic, used to be a sweet ita mess when i was much younger. is mmm known for having restrictive measurements? i'm devoting myself to only eating subway 6 inch sandwiches, pitas with minimal fattening ingredients, and bland diet food until i get back to the weight i was back then. i'm concerned though because even when i was skinny/average my bone structure makes me have weirdly chubby wrists and huge hips. i also had huge boobs when i was skinnier but they're going to be all disgusting and saggy after i lose weight so i really want a breast reduction but idk if it will be worth it if i can't fit into one of my new favourite brands... if worst comes to worst i can just trigger my eating disorder on purpose and bully myself into becoming too thin i guess
sorry for rambling i'm just very nervous that i'll be too huge for brand even if i lose all the weight and then some, feels really bad honestly
>>8990988
is all the lace going to be white? I wanted the black JSK but I think white lace will be kind of ugly...
>>8991039
It looks like a nightgown. Get the jsk or skirt or don't get it at all
>>8991075
you're just mad you're not a flat chested girl that can actually pull it off kek
>>8990988
I really want the jsk but i feel like its gonna pan out like holy lantern and end up being cheaper to just buy afterwards.
>>8990988
I feel like the hype has really died down for this print. It's a nice one, but there's just prints people want so much more and this has already had rereleases.
I kind of wish we knew what Chinese lolitas were demanding. I think these random rereleases would make more sense if we observed them.
>>8991078
No it literally looks like a child's nightgown. Go ask daddy for more cummies in your nasty ageplay cut dresses, skank
>>8991086
>being this mad that you have to resort to ageplay accusations topkek
>>8991083
>but there's just prints people want so much more
like which ones that aren't collabs that will never get rereleases?
>>8991083
I imagine it's still got hype in china judging by the amount of replicas and knockoff prints I see sold on taobao.
I myself really like the print but I wish it was the same jsk cut from the 2013/15 releases. I'm kind of thinking about the skirt though, it may suit me better since I'm tall.
I desperately want this but does anyone who owns white moitie know if it is lined thick enough that if I wore this without a blouse under it, that the tattoo on my ribcage wouldn't be visible? It is large and black and extends all the way up to my armpit, lined stuff normally doesn't conceal it unless it's in dark colors
>>8991116
Wear a camisole
>>8990466
...ok, i actually really like this
>>8988693
I'm still trying to convince myself that the black will pop up eventually.
In th meantime I'm incredibly tempted to get the white one, even though I don't think I'd wear it.
>>8991152
'nother fave strawb print
does anyone have tips for keeping cool in gothic or should i just give up on the idea of wearing it in hotter months? i can't really dress for the weather because i have disgustingly deep self harm scars all up my wrists and a few nasty even huger ones on my thighs. they're not the kind of scars that people can just ignore, at least in my mind. they look like ugly horrible worms.
