Post coords that you don't know what the fuck substyle they are but you like them. Argue about how to categorize them and nitpick/congratulate each other's eclectic tastes.
Starting with the coord /cgl/ can never agree on.
>>8970612
is this lolita or aristocrat?
>>8970614
gothic or classic?
>>8970614
Clearly aristocrat.
>>8970618
?
>>8970620
thanks mate
>>8970612
I don't like it but it's clearly just Gothic with sweet boots
>>8970625
Ita
>>8970612
>Argue about how to categorize them and nitpick/congratulate each other's eclectic tastes.
top fucking kek. Talk about being straight forward.
More people should be this honest about what we do in threads.
This one always gets a good shitshow of comments.
>>8970745
>not lolita
idgaf
Is this even lolita?
This coord gets posted regularly but what actually is it? Classic? Casual? Otome?
>>8970826
that green hurts my eyes
>>8970815
Horror movie kei
>>8970807
For me it's classic-sweet.
>>8970812
It would be co cute if she worked on overall styling. Her hair, posing and headdress are just sad.
Still, I'd say it's classic.
>>8970808
JetJ honestly looks beautiful this long and flat.
>>8970812
Ita. And it's always the ones who are clueless about grooming who try the shitty thrifted vintage blouse route, too.
>>8970807
I never understood where the line between lolita and otome is drawn. Seriously.
>inb4 how new are you
>>8971684
Honestly its subjective and people forget that. One person's toned down coord is another's dressed up Otome. and it doesn't help that these types of coords are then nitpicked and destroyed because they don't fit all the little check marks people deign as 'required'.
I'm arguing with a friend about a dress. Even if it isn't a coord, I'm allowed to post here?
>>8970807
These shoooooeeesss
>>8971942
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>>8971684
Otome is otome. Lolita is lolita. There isn't a line because they aren't related in a linear way.
It's sort of like saying "I'm not sure where the line is between goth and punk style because some people wear this black jacket as punk and others wear it as goth".
Otome is rooted in a feeling; the outfit should have a feminine feel. Otome has 1950s-1970s influence and tends towards being kitschy. Colors are less matchy-matchy and more "close enough". Otome is feminine and retro. Interest is fond in prints, color pops, or other large accent items. Detailing is average size, trim is used sparingly.
Lolita is rooted in a formula of specific blouse shapes and skirt shapes/lengths with petticoats and an emphasis on a silhouette. The primary time period influence is Victorian, colors are strictly matchy-matchy. Lolita uses more accessories and pieces for detail and interest. Details are exaggerated. Trim is used in abundance.
Some lolita prints can be shoe-horned into otome, as can some of the more simple staples like blouses, however they tend to be overly detailed/complex.
Some of the otome items can be shoe-horned into lolita, like some of the more ornate dresses and blouses, however they tend to be overly simple.
>>8972085
very well thanks, people were arguing these kinda outfits were 'classic in dark colours' in certain earlier gothic threads, just because there weren't crosses, dark makeup and bats weren't being shat. Shit was ridiculous
>>8972163
Wow really? They do have dark makeup and crosses though..
I wear classic myself so the idea that these would fit in the style is pretty absurd.
>>8970805
Someone else posted aristocrat and it wasn't an issue.
Also OP didn't say lolita. Just coords.
>>8970612
the hair is punk, the outfit and make up is goth, but the shoes are sweet. in all, it's actually pretty ita. only save is the girl is cute
>>8970745
this isn't fairy kei at ALL, are you retarded?
I'm going to vote that its larme.
>>8970808
classic, that's a no brainer
>>8971684
>where the line between lolita and otome is drawn.
there isn't really a line, its more like a gradient. its hard to draw the line when so many things cross over. generally, people rely on the brand.
>>8972645
>what are misnamed files
I named it that because I saved that image from a thread where people were trying to argue it was fairy kei.
She's actually a bubbles shop worker and yeah, their stuff isn't fairy kei.
Their stuff is cute but it just looks like typical fast fashion over there.
>>8971942
out of place socks and shoes, and IW/classic brands are beginning to adopt this cut. I wouldn't jump the gun and say gothic. This coord needs work and doesn't fit into the gothic substyle properly, and is not ladylike enough to be classic at all.
>>8971943
bow in the hair and key necklace make this stray away from gothic, but the shoes and dark color bring it back.
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>>8972643
I think it's fine except for the shoes. I don't mind a bit of mixing of punk and goth, but the sweet shoes just don't mesh with the rest of the outfit. I think it would be great with more gothic shoes, maybe old school platform heels.
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>>8972660
honestly i never know where most of Lilith coords stand.
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>>8972672
I guess I'm done.
I tend to find that I usually get confused when the outfit is somewhere between sweet and classic.
>>8972698
What the hell is soft lolita?
>>8972678
Absolutely adorable, is what this is. Love the unusual colors.
>>8972702
Please educate yourself
>>8972698
>Shiro lolita
Not real substyle, it's just a descriptor for an all white outfit. Shiro can be gothic or sweet or classic depending on how it's done.
>>8972748
In Japan people just call it shiro lolita.
>>8972709
I searched around for info on this but all I found were some casual and otome coords.
>>8972756
It's literally a term made up by Misako in her book, anon. Don't worry, it's not really a thing
>>8972757
Neither is otome. Try to search 乙女系 in google, you will not get the results you think.
>>8972766
That's because
one, otome is older than lolita and has even less info transcribed onto the thing called the internet. For reference I was born before the world wide web became a thing, and otome is older than I am. Not surprising if it got left behind and didn't make the leap to the interwebz. Shocking, I know.
and two, the term also refers to a whole genre of video games made for girls (otome games)
You need to search 乙女系 Olive if you want to find the magazine that was associated with otome.
