Good job, everybody, you fucked the last thread so hard the entire thing was deleted.
Try not to fuck this one, too.
What happened? I went out and suddenly it's been deleted??
>>8762399
Photog circlejerk
More collages please people
>>8762272
This thread:
>more competition discussion
>event discussion
>what are people working on
Stfu about:
>circlejerk of any sort
>KJ, Tabitha and Stacey
>>8762272
Well, it comes with the territory. The only cosplayers you hear about are the ones who put themselves out there...to get known, regardless how it's done (no names mentioned but we all know who they are). They, ofcourse have their own circlejerk togs, who are just as bad within the cosplay community, as deletion of the entire thread has shown.
nominations for UK cosplay/convention awards is up
https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/MBLLKWQ
>>8762272
I really don't understand why the thread was deleted.
>>8763064
Who really pays attention to this rubbish?
>>8762482
Please some else do a collage, I did the last one. It takes like ten minutes at a push if you're fussy about photos.
>>8763064
It's also run by Animeleague so 9/10 I expect them to win a lot of notable awards
>>8763253
What were the collages of?
>>8763274
Unknown cosplayers, basically people other than the 5 people who get discussed here at length. Anyone you like or think is a qt/hot/talented.
>>8763284
And guess what. It'll end up being selfpost and the cosplayers shown will get targeted. No friend would like to be shown here. It's fucking 4chan, but i know, good intention, bad idea.
You think someone is talented etc, then go support them on their social media. Go share their work in their social media, comment and let them know you like their stuff. Posting them here is doing the complete opposite.
>>8763332
Yes. "Friends don't post friends".
I hear i56 was a shitfail for cosplay and certain cosplayer guests made complete dickheads of themselves. So that's another con we can strike off the happy list. What have we got next? LAC for larger cons, correct?
>>8763345
iSeries isn't a con...its a LAN. For gaming/esports. Why the hell are people even cosplaying for it?
>>8763349
because they have cosplay guests and panels and a competition you fucking retard
>>8763345
what did they do?
>>8763350
'Cosplay guests' is that what they're calling them, shit tier bought crap and halffinished props?
>>8763356
Literal trash cosplayers. who are any of them because they're all shit. imagine being judged by that shit in the comp how disheartening would that be for people to say those shit show cosplayers were better than you
theyre about as talented as a MT jizz stain
>>8763356
this one was particularly bad yes, but the one earlier in the year was alright
>>8763350
Wow what got you so angry?
>>8763362
because of how much Costume and play have fucked up
They made all the guests sleep on the convention floor because the leader made the hotel budget go missing
>>8763362
Did they have better guests earlier in the year?
>>8763365
......On the convention floor.....
>>8763369
Sleeping bags
thats why they had shit guests because only desperate cosfame needys are willing to do that
>>8763366
Kelly Jean, Anna S Cosplay and Captain Amelia and a couple of others. Not the most amazing, but at least the majority can made decent costumes
>>8763365
this is joke right? Cant see KJ or Tabitha sleeping on the floor
>>8763383
nah sempai that was the previous one
it's the one just passed that the trash was on the floor
>>8763392
No amount of free promotion would get me sleeping on a con floor.
>>8763426
For those of you not familiar with Insomnia, most of the patrons sleep on the floor under/near their desks it's part of the LAN ""experience""
>>8763352
Like mention, you have good intention, i understand, but this will lead to someone getting posted whom may not like to be posted here and they end up getting picked on. How you know the people you posted didn't already get targeted by trollers already?
>>8763373
Sleep on the gaming floor? They really know how to look after guests then.
>>8763432
It's because it's a gaming con. Most people who attend, don't sleep, just nap..living on energy drinks, BBQ wings and pizza.
>>8763446
disgusting
>>8763451
I would like to call it, gaming paradise.
Who chooses the guests for Insomnia and why is one of the cosplay judges a little kid?
https://insomniagamingfestival.com/i56/tournaments/event/cosplay/special-guests/
>>8763464
Insomnia is like the only event costume and play are in charge of cosplay wise anymore. DOn't know why they didn't pick better people
>>8763480
most likely fucking the organisers
Apparently a bunch of Insomnia staff are REAL pissed at Kelly Jean. Not sure what went on exactly, only thing we're 100% on is she ditched a panel and got super wasted. Sounds like there may be more to it but it's hard to get hold of all the staff this soon with everybody traveling back. Either way there's word they won't have her as a guest again and they're considering not having other cosplay guests again, too. Like this might be the last time they promote any cosplay stuff at an Insomnia.
If it's true then this just makes me wonder even more about how and why particular people keep being invited to guest cons. They're either pretty small time and I can't imagine they draw a crowd or they're big time and mess the con around. Why book Kitty Brooker and Esti who surely don't increase ticket sales? Why keep tolerating Nigri and Kelly after they no show?
>>8763579
If Kitty Brooker was a worth while cosplayer, all the cosplay togs will be lined up to shoot her. I don't see that.
Infact, i've seen more cosplay togs shoot Eevee then her, now thats saying something.
>>8763602
are you suggesting that uk togs only photography good cosplayers because i have some news for you
>>8763606
It's more the fact she is so unknown in the cosplay comm that the togs don't shoot her, thats what im saying and inviting her to be a cosplay guest is a joke. You might as well invite some random girl in the street as a cosplay guest, no?
>>8763602
Yet she's guesting at several cons. So there's got to be something there?
>>8763625
She's desperate. And it's been proven the organisers have no clue what they're doing. They only see page likes and don't bother to check out the content.
>>8763625
Eevee got to be a judge at cosplay parades, do you think she has 10% of the knowledge and skill of some of the cosplayers out there?
>>8763659
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm just trying to figure out what it is organisers see in many of these guests.
>>8763675
because it's not like many of them even have any likes?
>>8763675
God knows, they seem to just pick random ones, rather than actually do some proper research into who they invite as guests so it seems.
>>8763608
Im part of the committee for 2 of the conventions shes guesting at, she messaged the convention facebook pages asking to be a guest because of her large fan base blah blah, it was a copy pasted message so don't know what other conventions she sent it to.
I advised against having her a guest but the people running it are middle aged men so you can guess their opinion on her.
>>8763712
Thanks for clarify this, thought that was the case. Well, credit where credit is due, the fact she did at very least sent application to be a guest then she deserves to be at least considered, rather than sitting there doing nothing, but my point still stands in terms of a being classed as a "cosplay guest". She really doesn't fit into that title as it's pretty insulting to those who have been cosplaying for years and attended alot more cons and better well known as an actual cosplayer.
>>8763064
I think we sould all vote for liam spooner to win the cosplay awards.
>>8763733
Hes already been given press passes before (bet all the cosplay togs who didn't get it be like jelly af. So hell why not, while we're here, let him run president.
>>8763731
Yeah that was my argument, I can name 10+ smaller cosplayers off the top of my head that would be better guests. She had the cheek to ask about payment as well.
>>8763761
Can we hear your list? I'd be interested in hearing about lesser known cosplayers
>>8763762
Riot Cosplay, Ribbons Cosplay, Emizone, Felixize, Van Helen, PopcornKuma, Speckles Cosplay off the top of my head
>>8763739
spooner for president
>>8763602
I had to mute her on facebook, I was getting tired of seeing her shit everywhere.
>>8763464
>tfw even the bias of being a friend and acquaintance of two of them doesn't help you understand how the fuck they're guests
>I cosplayed a Zombie
ffs
>>8763781
Felixize quit cosplay so I doubt she will be guesting any time soon lol
>>8764818
>>8763739
I would pay a lot of money to go to a con chaired by Spooner. Just fucking imagine it. It'd be like the last days of the Roman Empire.
>>8764823
I'm fairly certain it is, if she doesn't cosplay anymore why would she want to go to a convention to be a cosplay judge?
>>8764869
Free trip? See friends? Have fun? You know the other stuff to do at cons.
>>8764869
But, she does cosplay. Why would you think she's quit?
ok, 3 cosplayers you like and 3 cosplayers you wish would go away.
i really like kyokyo cosplays megabeth bob and lisa marie. and i'm sick of eevee demorafairy and kitty brooker
>>8765007
I'm so salty about that shot of Eevee, the location looks nice and it's a nice photo, but any tog that does a shoot with Eevee should be treated with the disdain they deserve.
>way too salty about Eevee getting more tog interest than me
>>8764869
Because she cosplays.
>>8765007
Wow I never realised how awful the middle costume is until now.
Trying to be a pokemon but it's nothing like it
>>8765007
The top middle is entering the LSCC comp right? Should be good
>>8765072
yeah, she'd going cersei with helen alice cosplay. i heard eevee and demorafairy are too.
>>8765106
eevee and demorafairy entering bro I hope their skits are the middle ones so we can have a pee break
Like it or not Eevee is becoming more and more a relevant UK cosplayer. Something most of the favourites mentioned on here just dream about.
>>8765134
Yeah, I aspire to be the laughing stock of every Britfag thread.
>>8765134
why has no one egged her yet
>>8765134
well I guess buying my Facebook likes and spamming my cosplay page on MCM group is something I need to do more of then
It's fake fame, don't act as if she has any of this attention through being skilled
>>8765137
It's just a small group on here being salty
>>8765106
Where'd you hear about eevee and demora fairy? that'll be a laugh
>>8763343
This. Being posted here isn't something cosplayers aspire to or even want. If you enjoy someone's work so much, go comment on their page, share their work, send the page to your friends so they can like it. Don't post cosplayers here if you respect them.
I have no fucking clue how Eevee gets any likes. Her makeup is terrible, not to mention her excuses for cosplays
>>8765218
are there any uk cosplayers with good makeup though let's be real they're all shit at it
>>8765224
Sands and Masubi do it fine. Not especially good, but fine.
>>8765251
i'm talking good though not fine. There are plenty of people a LOT worse than eevee.
>>8765254
Give examples of good cosplay make up. Noctuid is good at make up even if she sucks at everything else
>>8765274
if you mean noctis then youre wrong that is photoshop
>>8765275
also the only pics of her with noticable makeup are done by a professional mua
>>8765283
>>8765291
is that supposed to be an example of her ~makeup skillz~ because i have something to tell you
>>8765275
>>8765283
>>8765291
Ok point taken I just thought some of her selfies were cute
>>8765301
>>8765307
Still not bad makeup....
>>8765316
>>8765224
You're talking rubbish, there are plenty that manage to use make up really well.
The thing about good make-up is generally it's not noticed, which I suppose is kind of the point? Bad make up stands out, but good make-up just looks normal. Or else it's not really "good make-up" but minimal make-up on an attractive face.
Speaking of which, these out-of-character and pretty messy wings pop up on my feed every now and again and rustle my jimmies.
when will the jessica jones hype die
>>8765338
That's like saying when will the Stars Wars hype die. Don't like something some one else does? Ignore it.
>>8765326
The 'Princess' cosplayers are the worst, especially the one on the right, didn't her Jack Sparrow cosplay boyfriend cheat on her?
>>8765347
Deets? On princess drama and that particular story.
>>8765352
Can't confirm, only rumours, but I did hear he cheated on her with another Princess
>>8765344
Star wars has been around a bit longer than JJ though.
JJ seems to be the flavour of the month costume for the cosplayers who always do flavour of the month characters.
>>8765307
That double chin. What happened? all her older model photos didn't have the chub.
>>8765360
People don't photoshop con floor photos that's what happened.
>>8765359
People can cosplay who they want to really
>>8765357
Can confirm, had been screwing the owner of the party company she worked for for months before they got found out.
>>8765360
Yeah and suddenly she gained 6 dress sizes the second she entered the con hall.
I usually like the stuff from Carlos but this is too much. Her eyes are fucking creepy!
>>8765366
Shit. Didn't her gran and her rabbit die recently too? Fuck, imagine having to go to work with the person your bf cheated on you with and pretend to be a princess.
>>8765370
Oh dear, Tascha. Oh dear oh dear.
>>8765370
Wait. This is not a drawing?
>>8765375
the usual
>>8765370
Literally every single element of that is awful. What the fuck where they thinking.
>>8765375
Ah I've just seen the names in the corner.....
>>8765370
she's too cartoony and the background is too realistic. Taschas come full circle.
>>8765367
she claims she has a 26 inch waist. ha
>>8765512
Maybe she means 26" thigh?
>>8765532
lol omg
>>8765532
At least she consistent with her lies all over the internet
>>8765360
Like for real all her other photos are photoshopped to oblivion. She doesn't share anything on fb where she looks like she does in real life
Any chance were done talking about Lady No-Tits and we can move onto more interesting things? If not can we at least find some new shitty cosplayers
>>8765570
Bro get it right it's Lady ShopTits.
>>8765569
Anyone found a none photo shoot pic of her Furiosa yet?
>>8765568
I'd say lying gets you nowhere but she's clearly doing alright for herself
>>8765573
don't think she ever had any photos taken of it
>>8765570
Suggest a topic bro
>>8765322
Still the best Battle Grimace Cosplay I have ever seen
>>8765570
only other thing to talk about atm are the lscc competitors desu
>>8765602
Isn't it all Disney this year? Yawn
>>8765605
is it?
>>8765605
Some others
Xena and Gabrielle
Some other Marvel stuff
Assassins
Tauriel and Legolas
Cersei and Margaery
And an Ultron Build I think is entering too.
Gaming stuff is allowed too this year I think and thats what Kenny and Kerry are doing.
>>8765617
I heard they weren't entering. Which would be nice since they do the same thing every time and it feels like ground hog day,
>>8765626
relevant seeing as their costumes this year were literally from a film with groundhog day's concept
>>8765370
Wait, I don't get it. If the people involved liked it/want it to look like that, then what's the problem?
>>8765370
She has photoshopped her nose off. It is just all painted and smoothed over so much it looks so unnatural.
>>8765370
Its so smoothed off even the guns turn to a bar of soap.
All the photos you see noctis posts are paid shoots and very edited. She pays around few hundred a piece. She is so delusioned to think people don't know that. If you read her fan base they're absolutely cluess about the fact she looks nothing like she does in the professionally altered photos.
>>8765739
why would they be anything but clueless though? Can't blame them when she doesn't let any unedited photo exist
>>8765689
Everything is bad, that's the problem. If you are happy with shit then good for you
>>8765689
You will find thats not the case. When the photographer (who ever the one listed is) takes the photo. They already had in mind what they wanted the photo to look. Then i presume a third party (being an editor) either asks the photographer/cosplayer if they can use the photo for an edit they have in mind. The editor then does their thing and then the final result. Neither the cosplayer or photographer has a saying if they actual like the final product. But heres the crunch....they still have to praise it even if they don't like it to save face for the editor (especially if they are friends) , or just try and brush it under the carpet.
>>8765751
>especially if they are friends
i think being friends would give them more reason to tell them it's shit
>>8765740
Except they do as posted, but her fans dont see them unless they specifically look at the photogs page social media. And if her fanbase is all outside uk they will never see her in RL. So from that i would say her fanbase is outside of uk as anyone whos uk based would have seen the huge painful difference in photo to reality.
>>8765756
to be honest she looks so different irl that i think people wouldn't recognise her if they did see her at a con
>>8765754
If you want to be out of the circlejerk then thats what you would normally do.
>>8765759
Yes, theres that too. Unless she posts what shes wearing at con and someone decides to go look out for her, but even then they may not think that is her but rather someone cosplaying same character.
>>8765322
That watermark needs to be bigger.
>>8765573
only one i can find
>>8766688
You are a hero
>>8766688
her arm is as big as Max's thigh
>>8766688
oh lordy...is she really that wide.
>>8766779
But you know shes 38 26 39
>>8765357
Clearly his princess was in another castle... I'll see myself out
>>8763464
Why is there cosplay at insomnia? It's a gaming convention, not a special snowflake parade.
>>8766688
Holy shit. I didn't realise there was so much difference. Compared to pic attached which is one of her photoshoot pics.
>>8766822
Surprised they don't have a "gaming cosplay only" rule to at least keep the costumes relevant
>>8766828
her face looks so different
>>8766828
I wonder what the Photorapher thinks when a completely different looking model turns up.
>>8766878
i'd send her home to be honest
>>8763579
I'm guessing you saw that on a certain board where someone supposedly from the staff complained about it. All of the accusations have been refuted, it was just someone talking out of their arse.
I saw the Zonda stream that person was talking about and I'm just in two minds about her being drunk since she did sound pretty stupefied the whole time.
Anyway, to your question: these people don't necessarily no-show all the time and they bring in people and therefore ticket sales. It's as simple as that. If they have ads during their streams they possibly also bring more ad revenue due to their following.
>>8766828
Her head and neck has been reshaped and ends up looking like a rugby ball
Doesn't look like the same cosplay never mind the same girl, tog might has well have got another model
>>8766995
Did they make her arm longer?
>>8767005
nah i think her shoulder is just slouched in the first pic
>>8767005
Made her neck longer so probably
>>8766995
That's a different person. Even the hair is different.
>>8767078
I forgot that hair doesn't grow
anyone have that montage pic of the guests at LAGC?
>>8767078
Nope same person. She even describes herself as a 'petite' model. I presume she means short.
>>8767114
>>8767078
nope same person 100%. Just with photoshop
>>8767140
ha its funny as its ture
>>8767140
10/10
>>8767150
unlike the guests
>>8767168
they added hollita today ... yep class cosplay there not
>>8766995
This is just sad. Why shoop all your photos like that if you're going to stay fat.
Either lose the weight to look how you want, or accept you're a fatty.
>>8767205
Exactly!
>>8767114
LAGC cosplay guests so far:
Lindsay Elyse
Hollita
MadamBella
Chiquitita
Khloe Khaos
Kalli Mack Cosplay
Envyious
EJ Allen
Heroes of Geek
Demorafairy Cosplay
SqueakehB
Teraana
Kenny
Gingersnap
>>8767218
that's not tooo bad. some decent costume makers
>>8767194
She posts on her Twitter about making costumes for next year though. She probably just got fed up with facebook.
>>8767238
wish noctis would do that
>>8767238
Oh okay I only follow cosplayers on facebook and I assumed since Emi-Zone had done a lot of groups and events without her she had quit.
Any thoughts?
>>8765007
Bit late but three I'm sick of:
Kenny cosplay
Hayley smith
Lady noctis
Three I wanna see more of:
Thestarlightfairy
Littleblondegoth
Pipa wolf
>>8767287
Can't see it being very popular so close to the MCM. The guests for these anime league things are always crap anyway
>>8767314
Pipa Wolf is actually a decent cosplayer. Seen some really great work done by her
>>8767314
That Katniss looks like Cher
>>8765338
What is this wizardry? The resemblance is uncanny. It's amazing what you can do by putting makeup around your nose
>>8767328
All her makeup looks like Cher, she's shit
>>8767314
But Kenny is so funny and so random! I can't wait to see what he does next
>>8767350
I think you meant repetitive
>>8767350
Serious poses, followed by dance.
lol so randumb
It's a damn shame though, cause he really is a skilled cosplayer. He just doesn't seem to realise that it's one thing to be silly around friends, another in competition.
He needs to serious up a little and stop thinking he's the absolute height of comedy.
>>8766891
Actually I was told about it on Facebook by three separate people. One of them helps organise some of the cosplay and culture stuff for Insomnia. I have another friend who works for Multiplay itself who I've asked but I've not had a reply back yet.
>>8767320
I really like Pippa's work. And she seems lovely in person.
>>8767372
Not had the pleasure but saw her compete in Euro qualifiers, always impressed with what she comes out with
>>8767372
Agreed, I've met her a couple of times this year and she was so sweet!
>>8767314
Am loving these collages. Keep em coming people. Would love to see some more under 10k cosplayers
>>8767465
Funny that the "ones we want less of" on the colleges are mostly 10k+s
>>8767465
Why don't you just find the UK togs pages and look through their gallery for cosplayers.
>>8767465
cont....oh forgot they only shoot circlejerks and ones that have 10k+ likes. My bad.
>>8767315
at least animeleague get a decent voice actor for the bigger events which is more than some cons do.I met Caitlin Glass and Cristina Vee before
>>8767676
Cosplay guests seem to have nothing to do with anime though, not heard of most of them either
>>8767140
This is perfect.
>>8767644
This. In all honesty it looks like the same circle jerk self posting.
>>8767370
Weird. On /snow/ she said that Multiplay is happy with her.
>>8767370
She's trying to find out who is talking behind her back among the cosplay staff. From what she said in the thread over at lolcow she'll probably get your friend fired if she's the one who spilled the beans there.
>>8768245
It's not like one, two or even ten people can represent the feelings of a company, let alone can their opinions represent how the company will operate. There could easily be some Multiplay staff who are pissed off with her and some who really like her. From the sound of it most of the complaints are coming from Insomnia-specific staff rather than general Multiplay staff, any way. I mean the words I were told were "we're all irate", "we" being Insomnia staff.
>>8768251
I've only just read the lolcow thing before coming here and I doubt that's anyone I know. Doesn't write like any of them and nobody I know seems that personally invested in it.
The picture I'm starting to piece together is maybe she pissed off a couple of staff and they tend to band together, so perhaps a lot of the Insomnia staff have complained about her but only one or two are really angry about it and the rest are just supporting them, and Multiplay maybe think it's less of a deal? I'm still waiting on juicy deets from some people, but that's the kind of scenario I'm starting to think is going on. The fury seems to have died down a little since Monday morning.
>>8767465
Here's another one, all under 10k
Less:
Pixie cake face
Teraana
Beyond believing
More:
Teacup Erinyes
Supremeoutcast
Hollysocks
>>8768460
10/10 would bang teraana
whats up whits brit photograpers?
why they are so shit?
>>8768460
??? Beyond believing is really talented though
>>8768512
Not op but her stuff is ill fitting and often rushed/roughly finished. She's not bad but there's better around
>>8768528
There may be better but that doesn't mean she should be classed as someone who should 'go away'
Her Hiccup and Arya are amazing and extremely well made
What do we think about these girls?
Good group or are they gonna look like a state?
>>8768532
Her costumes are a mess, rushed half jobs
>>8768605
wrong
>>8768605
wrong again
>>8768605
and again
>>8768605
so wrong
>>8768605
sorry but shes one of the few talented uk cosplayers that doesnt rely on tit and ass.
>>8768620
Wow. Nice self multiple self post there.
>>8768620
She's hit and miss. I presume that's her on the left which isn't all such a clean costume. Why is the right one wearing jeans?!
>>8768637 I love that people say things like this about under 10k cosplayers when they're posted here. That's the whole point in people posting them, idiot. Unless you want to talk about the same old people for another 10 threads.
>>8768655
Well if you know then say who they are and maybe I can look them up?
>>8768594
well they're all bffs with each other so who knows, it could either be amazing or there will be dramu between them
>>8768613
That's a Cosplay Sky costume. She didn't make that one.
>>8765007
Kyokyo is incredibly annoying.
>>8768688
Really? When I met her she seemed really friendly
>>8768663
It was literally posted above your comment and there was a discussion about her. It's Beyond Believing Cosplay.
>>8768688
Yeah she's literally the nicest person ever
>>8768699
She's a backstabbing fraud.
What do people think of Catlin Cosplay?
And do you actually have any proof she's a back stabbing fraud? Seems salty to me
>>8768703
do share
>>8768705
Snobby.
>>8768714
Just stating an opinion, think what you like. It's not hard to find shit on her. Also learn to reply properly.
>>8768705
Isn't she the one who accused her ex of being a pedophile?
>>8768705
Had to look her up, resting bitch face in every single photo on her facbk banner, but can people start posting a photo of who they're talking about, sometimes helps
So you don't actually have anything? Deffo super salty. Also, my phone might be shit at using 4chan but you're still full of salt
>>8768721
Who hasn't done that though?
>>8768725
I'd like to stay anonymous, spilling juice would make her realise that I'm not her friend. If calling anons salty makes your dreams come true, carry on friend.
>>8768738
Give us something at least
>>8768738
Why are you her friend (and want to stay friends) if you don't like her?
>>8768271
>I'm still waiting on juicy deets from some people,
Me too. I'm curious about some stuff that was mentioned.
>>8768705
HAH.
That sums it up for me. Only interested in "cosfamous" people
>>8768594
??? who even they are.
i mean, it looks like the same face photocopied 9 times over.
It's gonna be a state, for starters that's the ugliest set of costumes I've ever seen and those girls are nothing on the eyes.
( and there's like what 7 full groups of love live costumes per convention? boring.)
>>8768501
All the togs who are good or get good also get tired of the circlejerk and the low effort yet high demands of UK cosplayers, so they fuck off to do other things. The only togs who hang around are the scrubs who have equally low standards as the cosplayers.
Name a British tog who is good and then look up how long they stuck around cosplay before moving on. Now think of a British tog who is bad and look up how long they've been around.
>>8768782
I was going to say, their faces all look really similar....
>>8768738
She posts pictures of her making stuff and doesn't photoshop so how could she be a fraud?
And if you're masquerading as her friend then I feel sorry for her because you have one hell of a vendetta and nothing to back it.
Seems like you're the backstabbing fraud, posting on here with no evidence. Classy.
