>finally get a phone interview last week
>get rejection e-mail today
How the job search going, anons?
Took me 5 months to get a job. Took me 2 months after revamping my resume
Glad I can finally afford to feed my guns again.
Good luck bro.
Been on quite a few interviews but so far no dice. But I think schools interviews for teachers up through july. Could be worse could be better. I have a chem cert, but its alt route and I have no experience teaching. Should be able to find a place, I just dont want to teach in a city or at a charter school. I guess worse case I can get my physical science one with like 2 more classes and go where ever I want with a year of experience in a shit school
>>1304208
I work night maitenence at walmart.
Mfw
Anyone else working a job where they've considered putting a bullet through their leg instead of working?
>>1304208
Just started again after like a couple weeks.
Working a paying intern job right now and I don't think they have money for hiring right now. So maybe I got at least like 5 months.
But I don't want to get caught out in case.
>>1304211
think long game friend. make money now, plan for tomorrow.
>>1304211
>tfw u work at starbucks
>>1304211
Sounds like the ultimate robot job.
>>1304213
It sucks. I've been trying to switch to days at least for awhile, but they have me stuck babysitting my literally retarded supervisor because they feel sorry for him. I can tell a ton of stories about him.
>>1304208
You failed on a phone interview? What kind of job was this for?
>>1304216
Post 'em.
I can understand and admire hiring retards, but making them supervisors is maximum overmeme.
>tfw work as a lifeguard
Only benefits are that it's easy as hell and I usually get free food.
>>1304216
>tard stories
do it
>>1304215
Yeah that's pretty true. I'm not a robot though. I miss daylight and seeing people that aren't the creepy old men who make up 90% of the janitor workforce
>>1304218
Well, for one he falls asleep for hours a night and they let him get away with it because they don't have camera evidence
He also tries to come into the bathroom everytime I go in there. Sometimes you can hear him breathing outside of the door when I'm taking a shit.
Give me a little to do some green text and pound down some more beers. I took 4 days off so I don't have to deal with his shit.
>>1304218
>>1304220
Not him but ill post 2 sets i have. Some might already know tyrone and neil
>>1304220
>>1304218
>>1304222
Its neal not neil oops
I see people talking about job troubles and makes me grateful that straight out of high school I went to trade school and have worked the same place for 8 years.
Then I remember that I'm so specialized this job is really all I can do, and I'm topped out on raises with no real upward position to go at my work without insane luck, unless I change employers (still same job though)
I'm really against going back to school, trying to struggle living working part time, and racking up debt for the next 4 years though to probably not make what I do now with a degree
>>1304224
How much do you make? You could always save up to ease the pain
>>1304224
>tradesman
>not owner
jump in anon, this is america go make your money
>>1304221
Oh yeah, He shits himself about 3 times a week. You can see it run down his pants, and I've had to clean it off the floor multiple times before
>>1304217
It was to be part of a cleanup crew for a bestiality porn shoot. I'm handy with a mop and figured I could really put my skills to the test. Those horses make one heck of a mess.
I just exited the Navy after my 4 and moved back to Georgia. I haven't actually started looking for a job yet.
>>1304208
Still stuck in trade school for 4 months.
I like it but I'm getting sick and tired of being poor and never having free time.
>>1304226
Owning an automotive repair shop is one of the worst businesses to start up in a major city, with equipment costs and getting all set up with various regulations, not to mention there are thousands of independent shops in my city, none of whom can offer near what my dealership can, who can't even diagnose or repair newer cars, which really can't even offer much to distinguish themselves from each other to the point that one has a clear selling point over the rest. Might as well pick one from the phone book and roll the dice.
>>1304219
Oh brother I feel your pain. I worked in lake Tahoe at a pool that catered to rich liberal retards from San Francisco. If it wasn't for the chance to bang one of their teen daughters at least once a summer I most likely would have ended it. It's so fucking boring 99.995 of the time and all you can do is watch people and think.
But then i got to college with $10k in my bank account from working 3 summers in a row, have 11 guns at home, and a used car when most kids my age don't have a damn bike. Life is fugging great for me now. Hang in there anon, it gets better!
>>1304228
...not sure I can believe you. But I want too.
Was it grill Horse?
>>1304233
>Was it grill Horse?
>>>/clop/
I work at Costco in the receiving department. Work mornings - 40 hours a week, Make $24 an hour, $2500 bonus twice a year, 72 hours of personal and 3 weeks of vacation a year plus all major holidays off.
No debt whatsoever. Life's good.
>>1304235
Damn, that's a pretty decent gig.
>>1304235
$24 an hour? Shit, I need to get on that.
I work receiving at Kroger and I make like a third of that ... Fucking hell.
>>1304236
It's not bad considering I never finished college. Pretty happy overall. Good company. 10/10 would recommend.
>>1304231
Hey buddy, I live in a small time and it'd be a good place to start one.
In my town, there's 3 shops. One talks down to their customers and wouldn't even tell me what's wrong with my car after I returned it. One of the other shops charges way too much, And only has the room to fix two vehicles at a time. The third one is so horribly corrupt and overpriced the only thing people do is get oil changes there because they're fast.
Small town, and do decent work. You'll be fine.
>>1304211
I work CAP 1 in pets, papers, and chems. Just till school starts and I can work UPS again.
>>1304208
applied for 5 home depot positions because wage slavery is mindless and easy. i have an associates and cash handling/PoS experience so I'll get something, but I'm hoping for dat asset protection/loss prevention $15dollarydoos an hour because I spent most of my last job looking at security cameras, being a security camera (sitting in a pickup watching niggers nig and stopping the nigging if it was necessary), and opening/closing facilities inna shitty areas by myself and shilled hard about it in my resume.
Why?
>because I want an AR before any Clinton AWB 2: no sunset clause edition
if not for that I'd happily continue being a n33t until fall semester when I go back to college
>>1304227
Also to add, how the fuck do I get out of the poor people vicious cycle? If I can't hurry up and move out and be with my girl I might literally kill myself. I hate these stupid ass cleaning jobs that it seems I'm stuck doing for the rest of my life.
I just turned 20 last night and am horribly depressed over me still working at Walmart.
>>1304208
Nonexistent.
NEET lyf
Starting an assistanceship for $25k a year while I go to grad school.
>No funs for a while
>>1304242
Show up every day, on time, and work.
When you go to apply somewhere else, that'll carry you further than anything else, or fuck you harder than anything else, because the number one problem employers are having these days is employee attendance.
Certs are nice too (IT, vocational, etc). Cheapish to get depending on where you live, they don't take forever, and they're a good way to get into a new field and boost your pay.
>Thread moved to /biz/
Well then
Why the fuck did this get moved off /k/?
/k/ is all about self loathing and hating your wageslave life and wishing you could own more than a fucking mosin.
>>1304242
You need to find a way to pick up skills.
Skills make your labor more valuable.
If you get an entry level job in sales, or one of the trades (locksmithing, electrician, plumbing) then the time you spend on the job will raise your skill level. If you get really good and save money, there's still a lot of niches for small businesses in the trades.
There are also jobs which require more education than a cashier but less than a full time degree.
Nursing, welding, EMT work, armed security.
>>1304251
Because mods are getting addicted to vitamin D more and more.
>>1304251
I feel you man. Just immigrated from /k/
>>30265354
I'm the guy that posted >>30265330
I have a masters in mechanical engineering and my PhD funding ran out unexpectedly.
That was January. I spent a month going from couch to kitchen to liquor store.
Then I decided to get my ass in gear and look for jobs. But I also got a job as a fry cook to add structure to my life, and force me shave/shower regularly
It was exhausting. I'm not used to working on my feet, and after a month on my couch i couldn't hardly do anything physical. The pay sucked (not enough to make ends meet, just stretched my savings), but the people were good
I thought if I worked hard I'd get a raise (as my boss said) and could do that for a living. It wouldn't be glamorous, but I could afford to perpetuate my simple lifestyle
Then a month or 2 in, I was cleaning a hot fryer and got grease burns on my arm. I'm not a religious man, but I literally prayed for death that night. I was up until 3 from the pain. I realised no gods would save me
It was like the lye scene in fight club. I realised that one day I would die. I realised I can't fear it, but must accept it. I stopped popping ibuprofen ever hour and just experienced the pain. It was awful, but it freed me.
The next morning I made a resolution to revamp my resume, and apply for 10 jobs a day. It took time but I had (have) scars to remind me of that night.
>>1304242
>hasn't managed to build a resume
stop applying for retiree/retarded people jobs.
short list of how 2 escape being a turbofag poorshit
>move in with parents because you're a millennial and the idea of anyone leaving the nest below 25 is nonexistant
>get a job with cash handling/POS, even if it is a pay/hours cut
>work that for 3 months
this proves you don't steal shit and can count
>apply for a better pay position in cash handling at a costco/home depot or try an break into retail with your resume of tard and cash handling
>save money
don't do the poorfag thing of getting a little cash on hand and spending it all
>go 2 trade school/talk with union to become a journeyman
welding, electrical, boilermaking, and pipefitting are all well paying. a master boilermaker in the right oil boom city will pull in 6 figures easy. starting you'll make 30-50 grand working 40 hour weeks with the option to work at pay and a half overtime.
I'm going to start searching in two weeks.
My resume is filled with small lies though. Just to make it look less depressing.
>friend works for the city park department cutting grass
>says he got 3000 applicants for a temporary grass cutter job
>I work as a labourer at a waste disposal facility
>we recently had an opening and interviewed an environmental engineer with project management experience...for a labour position
>recently interview for a job in the middle of nowhere northern BC
>didn't get it but the HR lady told me there was 120 people competing for it
The Canadian job market is PURE SHIT I'm lucky to be employed
>>1304249
>>1304255
I live in a tiny town of 4k people. Every other job in town is filled for the next 30 years. And walmart won't promote me because of my retarded supervisor.
My truck keeps breaking down, and I keep falling behind on being able to afford to keep it fixed.
The only way to post-highschool training is to drive 30 miles away.
I just want to fucking give up some days. It doesn't seem like there's much of a way out sometimes
>>1304278
Move somewhere not shit.
It's as simple as that.
You have no children, no mortgage, and it doesn't sound like your personal life is that great.
I recommend the North Dakota oil fields or the military.
>>1304272
Parents all moved out of town and threw my fucking teenaged brother on me.
And they refuse to move me to ANY position.
>>1304277
>BC
i feel sorry for you, maybe you shouldnt vote the fucks that dont want jobs to be created in
>NO! WE DONT WANT NO PIPELINE HERE! i mean theres like zero jobs here and we could use the economic boost, but a few thousand trees lives are more important!
>>1304285
then move
>parents moved out of town
why the fuck didn't you
>threw my teenage brother on me
das illegal
apply for something other than walmart. you need to get out of the tard jail classification of janitorial duties. Anyone can do your job, keeping it isn't doing you any favors.
>>1304291
Kek, I live in Alberta, was trying to escape to BC because the economy here went to shit
>>1304296
I've applied. Every place tells me the same thing.
That they're not hiring and have no open spots.
If I can get this fucking truck working though, I'll be out of this town in half a second.
>>1304305
If i lived nearby i could hook you up with some real cheap if not free service
>>1304305
It seems like you and your brother need to take your parents out into the woods and make them dig their own graves.
>>1304285
That sucks man. Have you thought about going into business for yourself? Maybe sell shit on ebay for starters (just to get extra cash)
>>1304309
This is a topic from/k/
When people suggest that, we might actually do it
>>1304297
what are you talking about? Worleyparsons is hiring like mad, Ledcor too
>>1304314
I've thought about it. I'm a bretty good cook. I've thought about selling some of my product.
I can BBQ pretty decently, and I make some damn good comfort food.
>>1304315
Have you considered selling your car for parts and getting one of those shitty little scooters?
Or enlisting.
That could honestly put you on your feet again a lot better.
>>1304321
Food-truck it up man!
Ge the right permits and drive to the nice part of town
Sell bottled water for starters if you have to (20 pack for 5 bucks at home depot, cooler full of ice and salt, rush hour at the right spot). $1 for ice cold water after work sounds great
Don't quit, no matter what!
>>1304348
You guys are a lot more inspirational than /k/
I've been putting together a menu, and prices just as fun. Makes me feel bad that a lot of my food is unhealthy as a pound of butter. It's good though.
I'd love to own a food truck though..
>>1304278
use your computer to learn dude. You don't even have to leave your bed.
>>1304357
>>1304378
That's the gallon of salsa I made today from garden stuff.
>>1304357
I'm from /k/
But unhealthy is good. Food trucks aren't health food. Big portions (so bachelor's have something to take home tonight), unique menus (Mac and cheese in a semi-sweet waffle cone, Korean BBQ with kimchee Cole slaw tacos, empanadas, etc), right price (know your market), and a good publicity campaign will help. I was a fry cook for a while- presentation is everything cutesy "street food newspaper" wrapping will get you 50 cents more per meal!
Depending on your location, a cooler full of tamales outside a bar would be enough to work Friday/Saturday night (10 pm to 3 am)
>>1304383
OK homemade salsa all over some scrambled eggs wrapped in ... something creative. Waffle cone, corn tortillas, "home made" biscuits (bisquik). It's gotta be "hey that might be fun to try" to get them in, and "holy shit, these flavors are awesome" will keep them coming back
>>1304357
I love working with food. Have you considered working in the food industry? Easy way to make a living with no education and little effort. I always enjoyed serving tables, made like $20/hr and got to help people have a great time enjoying our delicious food.
>>1304384
Now that's a good idea.
I could take some of my BBQ pork over to a bar during the weekend. I made a BBQ taco with homemade apple BBQ sauce and and coleslaw..
And a fried pork sammich and spicy fried mushrooms.
>>1304401
I do need to work on finding a good presentation. I'm not good at novelties. I've always thought good food speaks for itself.
I actually take that salsa and let it sit for a day to combine flavors and mix it with some chicken broth, black beans, corn and chicken and make a really goos soup.
>>1304405
I've considered it to get training. I can cook decently, but I don't really know anything about the management or relations aspect.
>>1304208
I'm slowly coming to terms with how much it's going to cost to get that commercial pilots license I want so bad.
Hearing all the horror stories of pilots getting laid off these days isn't helping.
>>1304417
If all else fails, free samples will get you some interest until you develop a reliable client base.
>>1304430
Good idea.
Around here its not hard to do well with a food truck though. I'd say at left 70% of the ones I've noticed 5 years ago are still around. And some of them flat out suck
>>1304357
>food truck
>dead walmart town
these guys don't seem to get it
you need a roach coach, not a food truck.
bring one of these to construction sites or a warehouse district around noon and sell $5 pulled pork sandwiches, hotdogs, and cold drinks. outside of a major city a panel truck selling $15 burgers and shit just doesn't happen.
I work in IT at a hospital. 32/hour but dear God is it stressful. My favorite job was making 21/hour as a janitor.
>>1304550
I'm trying to figure out whether you could just keep cuts of barbecue in a 140 degree oven for the duration of service.
Bacteria can't multiply at that temperature, and it eliminates the need for reheating, plus you can advertise "straight out of the oven," which isn't exactly common for a food van.
I think it can overcook the food though.
>>1304242
>I just turned 20 last night
Stop complaining you are doing pretty good for 20. Another year or two of job experience and decent companies will see that you are dependable enough to be hired. You aren't even old enough to drink yet, and haven't proven that when you do you wont become an alcoholic or something so there isn't a lot of opportunities yet.
>>1304258
>Then a month or 2 in, I was cleaning a hot fryer and got grease burns on my arm. I'm not a religious man, but I literally prayed for death that night. I was up until 3 from the pain. I realised no gods would save me
>It was like the lye scene in fight club. I realised that one day I would die. I realised I can't fear it, but must accept it. I stopped popping ibuprofen ever hour and just experienced the pain. It was awful, but it freed me.
>The next morning I made a resolution to revamp my resume, and apply for 10 jobs a day. It took time but I had (have) scars to remind me of that night.
No offense but you sound like a terrible person and I would never hire you. Protip: people who hire others for a living can generally detect douche bags like you from a mile so they wont even bother to look at your resume. Protip2: learning to spell "realized" correctly would help a lot.
>>1304872
Why is he a douchebag? Sounds like he's just having some hard luck and trying to get back on track.
>>1304241
I applied to 7 asset protection listings and its been 2 weeks and no calls. How long ago did you apply?
>>1304232
>have 11 guns at home
Hahahhaha what a great measure of success...
>>1304208
Got the only job I've ever applied for. Gonna be doing risk advisory at a big 4 firm straight after I finish uni. Life is easy mates.
>>1304208
I've got a weird dilemma:
>stay at current comfy job with 35+ days off a year, ~$50,000 salary
OR
>Accept an offer for a ~$70,000 salary job without really knowing how stressful it might be
I'm pretty happy where I'm at, but sometimes I can't help but wish I was making just a bit more so I could spend a little frivolously and enjoy myself. I live very frugally.
>>1304209
what changed did you make to your resume?
also why are there no IDs in this thread? hackers?
>man I hate my shitty job so bad
>been looking for a new job for so long
>I've been serving fries and cleaning the grill since I was 16 fuck this
>I'll start my own business!
>now I serve fries and clean the grill in my food truck and I'm 20k in debt still no bachelor's
>th-thanks /biz/
>>1305651
Because you suck.
>Move your food truck to college town
>Look for a local business near down town
>Ask them to use their parking lot at night to serve your food, promise this will help curb break-ins as well as promise a small percent of profits
>First day, when all the students are getting drunk as shit down town - literally post up on the street corner and handout 500 free tacos or whatever the fuck you make
>Make a name for yourself with said drunk college community. Don't over charge and take advantage of social media
>Keep at it for a school year, and then take what you earn to open up a restaurant of your own under the same name near campus
>Live off the campus reputation, but do some charity and social outreach to get the rest of the city in your doors
literally a blueprint to make some fucking money you sap
Been applying for half a year now. Can't find a new job even being currently employed. I've been told it's supposedly much easier to get a new job if you're currently working but I've had no luck at all.
I've applied to 100 different positions, and had limited results:
>1 phone request like two weeks into applying. didnt even bother like a fucking idiot because i thought i was underqualified anyway and figured I'd be having interviews left and right. lol
>3 months or so pass... no other interest.
>a phone interview. failed it, didn't even get an in-person.
>a skype interview a month later. managed to seem like a normal person, got in-person interview. lack of social ability probably was evident, all bro startup so probably not a good fit anyway. keep getting told somebody would reach out, month later and not even a denial email.
>phone interview recently, but fucked up because I admitted outright I wasn't looking to do the kind of work I'm doing now (instructional design), trying to get into more creative work.
just fucking kill me already. there isn't a day that goes by that I create elaborate fantasies where a mass murderer storms in the building, so i can charge straight at him and have him kill me. at least then i would look like a valiant idiot while getting myself killed.
I start a software position at a startup in NYC on Thursday, after a ~6 month search. Full disclosure, I do believe I was self-sabotaging for a time. So excited to have meaningful work and structure to my life. Once I have my own cash, I'm going to start setting up some alternate cash flows like Robin Hood. How about you, anon?
>been applying for the past 2 months, or so
>3 interviews
>still looking
Welp.
>>1305710
LOL YOURE A KEK. From your last two sentences I mean.
>>1304227
Well fuck man
>>1305033
lol'd , this
>>1305473
Read the thread.
It was moved from /k/.
No one around here does seasonal employment and I'm going back to college in like two months. I'm just playing with cryptos and stocks for some income for a bit.
>>1304208
I have lost my job almost 4 years ago. First i thought i could be a self-employed person, it barely paid the bills and i've managed to get by, but now it's over.
And no one will hire me now because of the gap in my resume. Do not repeat my mistake.
>>1304208
8 years experience(military) and bachelors related to my field (Purchasing and supply chain management).
Took me over a year to get an interview (happened an hour ago) with a company while I worked my same crappy customer service job (golf course).
Interview went very well I think, they kept talking about "other canidates" but I'm 95% sure they were bluffing. Said they'll "let me know" when it's time for a second interview with the President of the company (small manufacturing company, less then 100 employees).
I hope I get the job, love what I did while in the service.
>>1306005
How hard is it to explain that you were attempting self-employment?
Weren't you doing something in your field?
>>1305385
Stay at comfy job and work on second stream of income. Youre in a good position to start a simple business.
>>1305385
>without really knowing how stressful it might be
If you knew it was stressful that would be one thing, but since you don't then you need to get more information. Informational interview someone with the same job.
>>1306107
I've been considering doing some freelance programming on the side.
I'm not really sure how to get into that.
The main issue is that I would be violating my non-compete with most of my skillset if I do my own thing on the side.
>>1306132
Well, I can ask until I'm blue in the face but it's impossible to really know until you work there.
Also, my company only technically offers like 10 days of PTO, but it's just a gray area where I can do whatever I want as long as I take care of business. It'd be nearly impossible to determine if a company's policy is actually a hard limit. It also varies from person to person within the company.
OP here, just got another rejection e-mail from a programming job that I made it 3 interview rounds into. Back to square 1 I guess. I have a placement agency meeting today at least.
>>1306137
The most common type of freelancing is webdev. Be prepared for asshole customers who want you to work for $2/hr though. Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3RJhoqgK8
>>1306143
>that I made it 3 interview rounds into
That sucks.
>next time be sure to swallow
>Graduated 2 weeks ago
>already been working for 2 months 2 days a week part time driving around delivering fruit
>hours are 5AM to 1PM
>now working 4 days a week
>friend called me up and said his place needs more employees
>I drive to where he works
>instantly get offered another part time job also delivering things, work 4PM to 9PM
>Working on my own online business selling niche items online
>tfw making about +$5k a month right out of high school
Decided to start investing about 4k of it in an index fund
Also, I live on less than $100 a month, the only thing I pay is my cell bill and eating out once in a while.
GL mang.
>>1306165
keep working hard
don't end up like me
please succeed
>>1305033
Well the thread is migrated from /k/.
>>1304215
Overnight Jewel fag here.
I start when we close, so I only deal with customers for the last 2 hours of my shift. I listen to music and podcasts while I stock the shelf and other shit like that. Winter is depressing because I'm getting even less sunlight then, but I deal with it and have fun outside in the warmer months.
Made good money from buying BTC when it was young, and still pump and dump it even now. No kids, few bills, easy as fuck overall.
Phone interviews are awful. They put you on speaker, half of what anybody says is muffled, and you as the interviewee miss out on alot of environmental cues that would give you context (specifically, what answer they want and whether you should run).
>>1304238
Are all Costco jobs that good with pay and benefits?
>>1304208
bad. this one place i applied to the manager is discriminating against blacks&hispanics. he only wants POO IN LOO people working there. he said he needed someone but but i was told by the shop steward he is discriminating and he is filing a case against him.
i went to another place today but the guy sounded like he only wants experienced people working there. i have 4yrs working as a c-tech mechanic. even so their work hours are shit. he wants me for overnight from 9PM to 6AM. i dont think i'm gonna do it.
my mother is a hardcore christian and just says to have faith in god
>>1306814
Terrible. Been rejected about 5 times now. About to work a second wagecuck job overnights to help bridge the gap until my girlfriends out of school
Fuck m8, only been searching for a month, pretty good resume, finance related jobs. No luck at all. Online applications are fruitless. Fuck this job market, fuck wage slavery. Cryptos are my only hope. Or I might just take a retard job and learn about real estate investing in my free time. I hope the S&P dives down below 1k, what a fucked up market where people willing and able to work skilled jobs can only find stuff through nepotism.
>Call main recruitment agency in my stem
>we're not really interested in graduates, only people with experience
I have a fucking PhD. Most jobs in a lab are no challenge to me at all. Next time you hear someone complain about a skills shortage punch them in the gut for me.
>>1307168
What do you have a PhD in? That's nuts.
>actually getting knocked back for jobs
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiOg4L506jNAhUGLqYKHbUrDEgQtwIIJDAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DSzXQsr9lo9Q&usg=AFQjCNGdhG4aqDL3WXJ83FoX1s6Ngn0gdg&sig2=zL_HOaEdtBZK0zycMIUjPg
I mean you don't have to watch the video, but it might help someone.
Has anyone worked in security jobs? Im thinking of applying in allied united. Some sites have 11.50/hour.
Have any of you gone to recruitment agencies? I'm a finance/math graduate, and looked on my own for 3 months after graduating with no results. While I always thought agencies were a scam, one day I went in for an interview at Robert Half, and got a call about an A/R job literally as I was pulling out of the parking lot of the building, based on my bilingual French/English. I make 38k per year, with a 3k bonus, full benefits and matching 401k. I barely use anything I learned in school, and I don't particularly want to work in A/R, but it's a fuck of a lot better than the poor broke bastards that are most graduates/peers (I'm 23). With 4 months experience, the same lady from RH is looking into getting me a job in a different city, and the first job that gets you any professional experience is super important, and often the hardest to get.
>>1307228
I had a security job for a few months, was my first ever job too. I would say the biggest problem, and the reason I quit, was that it was midnight shift with frequent overtime, so I'd be working midnight to noon most nights. It can also be incredibly boring, depending on where they have you posted. 11.50/hr is good, especially if it's unarmed security.
>>1306143
Newsflash: you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Study harder.
You're making it past the HR drones but failing your first real interview with anyone that knows anything. Pull your head out of your ass, eat some humble pie, and know your place, lowly peon.
>>1307168
this is the shit i hate so much. how are graduates suppose to get experience if nobody wants to hire because of lack of experience
RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEE
>>1307590
Plenty of fresh grads get hired right out of school.
There's always a real reason you don't get hired:
1. They thought you were closed homo and they dont like fags
2. They don't like your race
3. You went to a shit school
4. They think you're related to someone they dont like
5. They don't like your face
6. They would rather hire someone they can fuck
But they can't tell you any of this shit because it can lead to a lawsuit. So they just go with "we are looking for someone with more experience :^)" because it's not something you can change right away and reapply.
>>1307618
kek
>>1307388
Many reviews say the same thing. Did you get overtime pay on overtime or they payed you regular pay?
>>1306137
>violating my non-compete
This happens?
What fucked up country do you live in where they literally retard you from improving yourself in the fields you're most skilled in?
btw we had recruiters/temp agencies tell us just to take
>"survival jobs"
While also
>"working on your skills/learning at college"
In meantime
>"trying to keep a roof over my head, eat, pay bills..."
>"Fuck, I don't remember the last time I went out, on holiday, or even met friends for more than 30 minutes outside of free events"
And to
>"just keep applying"
So we can
>"get a """"career"""" that we """"wanted"""" to work in"
And then of course
>"There's not really any excuse for not trying/try harder/there are people worse off then you who succeed"
I see why people on here say to just an-hero after college.
Fuck this, I'm possibly even going to have to MOVE BACK HOME FOUR STATES AWAY just so I'm not living on the streets keeping myself warm with my stem degree and sleeping on a pile of loan-repayment letters.
>Just try harder :^)
>No excuses :^)
>Phallic arguments :^)
>No one owes you anything :^)
>Git gud :^)
>Just be 6'1, ripped, affluent, connected, a master of your craft yet creative, be outgoing and extroverted not autistic, live centrally in a major city, be Chad, etc...
>If you """wanted""" the job you'd actually try :^)
>Be perfect and we'll allow you to have that entry level temp. position :^)
>Be grateful :^)
>>1307921
Have you tried internships for experience
>>1307206
Thank you so much for sharing this, helped me see a lot of flaws in my resume.
>>1304872
I think he's a Britbong or something, they spell "realized" like that
>>1306087
I think no one likes to employ people with a huge gap in their resume, unless they REALLY need to fill a position and there's no other choice.
It's almost as if they envy people, who are trying to be (or were) self-employed for a couple of years or more.
like:
>i had to go to my office every day and this asshole was working from home!
Only the thought that someone wasn't taking it up the ass every day makes such person mad. Of course he won't hire you, if there are other candidates.
They automatically assume that if you don't have a history of "official employment" for a couple of years then you have lost your real skills. Even if you were employed before being self-employed, your previous working experience hardly matters.
Same with the education. haven't found a job in a field that is related to your field of study? Worked in unrelated job (say you're a linguist and you worked construction job, just to get by)?
That's it, your diploma doesn't matter anymore. They just assume you have forgotten everything.
>>1307876
I already do database design consulting for the company I work for.
If I do database consulting on my own, for a company that's within my company's target market, that's pretty much poaching potential clients from my company. I'm putting myself in direct competition with my company.
What dumbass company do you work for that lets you steal its clients?
>>1307921
>Just be 6'1, ripped, affluent, connected, a master of your craft yet creative, be outgoing and extroverted not autistic, live centrally in a major city, be Chad, etc
I was ripped, not affluent, not connected, no skills, extremely introverted, and lived in a shithole small town. Literally born in poverty.
Now I work out daily. I have a damn good comfy technical job. I've learned to "fake" extroversion, and just recover at the end of the day, and I'm in a major metro with plenty of companies I could move to at any time.
I know it's cliche, and most people don't like hearing it, but you really can make it if you just put yourself out there.
Ask yourself:
Are you really doing the best you can do right now?
How much time do you spend on 4chan? Playing video games?
Are you using all of the resources at your disposal to expose yourself to potential employers (read: people who want to pay you AND make you even more valuable)?
I play video games all days and drink myself into a stupor often, but that's only because I already put in the work to secure a comfy lifestyle. It took years, but it was worth it.
You're either:
>not trying hard enough.
>actually too dumb to make it.
>not living in America.
In most cases, I refuse to believe the second one is true.
>>1308353
>I was ripped
pics faggot
>>1308417
*not ripped
>>1304208
that feel my previous job was lost due to the company dying because of diversity hire bullshit and boomer board directors offshoring all our coding. It was a fucking nightmare I did the work of three people I worked an average 30 hours overtime per week for ten fucking months.
>Was only paid 40,000 dollarydoos per annumn before tax to do this.
>>1307924
>Have you tried internships for experience
Don't exist in my country unless you're:
a) In 2nd year Uni AND you have to be accepted.
b) It's illegal for businesses to NOT PAY workers minimum/subsided wages, this ties in to a).
I think I'll just be poor, but self employed.
>>1308353
>not living in America.
This.
Also,
>It took years
I'm 27 m8, I don't have the luxury of time anymore...
>>1308746
Yeah, it's hard for me to make these claims on those outside of the US, but if you're in the states, there's no excuse for failure other than laziness or borderline mental retardation.
People criticize the states for not having basic socialized things like health care, but yet we offer so much money and opportunities to the poor, ESPECIALLY if they have some sort of minority status. They just have to actually get the free stuff. No one shows up to your door to hand you tens of thousands of dollars in scholarship money.
I'm not much younger than you, but yeah, I've already put in the years. Why not start now, though? What's the alternative? Stagnation and surrender?
>>1308762
>Why not start now, though? What's the alternative? Stagnation and surrender?
The perpetual struggle to both get ahead while making ends meet.
I'd have to:
>Get a job in a depressed climate where they literally get 300+ resumes for a Checkout Chick position
>Save enough money on minimum wage (excluding expenses)
>Actually figure what fucking skills I genuinely have beside being a "people person" and improving the "mood/environment" of people I work with (e.g. I printed and laminated signs so the staff room was more organised and tidier, not in an OCD way though)
>Pay more money to get qualified because I live in a Nanny State that means you're a pariah in whatever field you choose if you have no certificates
>Moves states to metropolitan area (which requires either a job there already or a lot of savings and the expectation you can get a job quickly)
"Oh, but you're just not making enough sacrifices/trying hard enough/etc..."
M8, it cost $3 for one litre of milk here. You WON'T be employed without certification in whatever-bullshit-they-can-tag-you-with. I live on an island off an island. And now my parents think I'm gay because I literally can't afford to have a car, girlfriend, and fuck knows I'm never having kids with my Hereditary Multiple Exostoses which I need cut out periodically. Oh, and they essentially render me unable to do basic manual-labour work or remain on my feet for more then 6-8 hours.
Yeah it's a welfare state, but if I didn't have it I'd either have been aborted or killed myself.
I might as well buy knee pads and a paper bag.
>>1308840
>fyi
http://radiopaedia.org/articles/hereditary-multiple-exostoses
The waiting list (because I can't afford private health care) is two-and-a-half to three years long :^)
>6. They would rather hire someone they can fuck
Why I gave up on digital amrketing
>>1308994
its an absolute bullshit field, you should've known better if you didnt have the 'qualities'
>>1308994
Good decision.
Most companies are sausagefests as is. If they can get someone half qualified with tits for whatever position, they'll do that.
If you're a fucking white male, you better not be in a field where you have to compete with sluts or minorities.
>Work two part time jobs
>Slowly picking up more hours and responsibility
>Used to have a soul sucking job working 65+ hours a week only for 2k a month~
>Have a college degree, live rent free, about to go hard core save mode
My question is this. What are side hustles that can be utilized? I'm working like 35 hours a week or so combined between the two, so that leaves a lot of free time in between. Should I pick up on stocks once I have enough capital? brainstorm business ideas for the future? sell things online?
I'm 22 and a lot of my friends are going to be real successful. The dream is to use that as a networking tool in 10-15 years so right now is just building the financial framework fluff.
Or should I just go ahead and just kill myself?
>>1309302
Buy Bitcoin after the coming crash.
>>1304229
What do you get after 4 years in the Navy?
>>1309415
In most large cities it's pretty bad because there are thousands of hot sluts who want to work with social media marketing.
But it depends on so much
1. How desperate they are for someone to fill the position
2. The other applicants
3. If the person hiring is male
4. If the person hiring owns the company
5. If the person hiring has a ball buster wife who doesn't want him to hire younger women
>>1309474
Oh, social media digital marketing, so basically updating a company's Twitter and Facebook and trying to be a millenial viral hipster shit?
I thought you meant actual digital marketing, PPC, Adwords, analyzing data.
Also I don't get why the guy above is complaining about being a white male since most of those shit companies tend to be exclusively white males and females.
Okay guys, here is the rundown of how to make money as a NEET.
>get a serving job
Seriously. Just start with any serving job. Any old shitty serving job you will make at least $15 an hour. After some experience, find a nicer restaurant. Then after experience there find a nice restaurant.
I started serving 18 months ago and finally got a serving job at extremely nice restaurant. I make $14 an hour BEFORE tips. This weekend I banked $1,200 in tips. I'll be around six figures as a server, and you can to!
>TLDR; just become a server
>>1309759
Oh, and bonus.
I am taking extensive notes of every process involved so that I will have the knowledge to open my own restaurant after 3 or 4 years of saving.
>>1307921
You're ugly and fat
Don't wait to graduate to an hero you're ready now
>>1309759
This.
Keep your head down and grind until things get better or you saved enough to change them. It's slow and hellish but what isn't?
>>1309759
Just remember to save, save, save. When I was a server, literally all of my coworkers would blow money like crazy. What's the point of working so hard if you're getting nowhere? I loved serving, always good money and so easy.
>>1304211
I like how they call it maintenance when your just a janitor. But get paid the same as cashiers and sales associate.
I work in L&G and get fucked over on my pay. I make $10hr and I work inside and outside doing fuckin everything when we have retards and weak ass people in L&G that can only water flowers and 10% of the other time they do light ass work such as checking people out.
Learn MARKETING and learn SEO. Start a website or blog, create the necessary backlinks and social media, and get your website to the first page of google. BOOM, instant track record of excellence.
Put it on your CV and exaggerate the shit out of it in interviews.
As of 2016, SEO marketing is in demand. If you're even slightly good at navigating social media and good at writing content, it's an easy skill to learn. You don't even need a degree.
I do this. Earning 25k starting. Moving diagonally into an exec role within a year.
>>1309148
place I was hired at had two diversity hire women one who I replaced and another that was let go both were useless at their jobs. Fuck ups fuck ups everywhere and don't me started on the flip seo and web dev members I often did their work as well.
>>1309491
>I thought you meant actual digital marketing, PPC, Adwords, analyzing data
Guy that mentioned he gave up on digital marketing here , yeah that is what I did.
>ill be graduating this year
>I haven't had a real job in 2 years
im fucked
>>1312896
Yep you really are. I went to the career services office for my school in my final year and they told me I should have 3 internships in a field that I want to get into before I can get a full-time job in it.
>>1312977
What field? That's insane.
I didn't even get an internship and I got hired full-time right out of college as a BI dev/DBA
>>1310534
>25k starting
I guess it's not as in-demand as you thought, unless you live in a 3rd-world country.
You can make that kind of money doing any basic skilled labor, like clerical work, a warehouse job, or an assistant manager at a fast food joint.
>>1314342
Assistant managers make more than that
>>1314339
you're a BI dev AND a DBA? How could you be good at either?
>>1308668
This is happening more and more in the public sector as Republicans pass through elected offices and offshore everything to India or Indians. I worked in one agency where they made heavy use of contract-to-hire and I was clearly the diversity hire. Got to laugh when the Indians and women are way behind and not turning anything in and you're the one handed a pink slip. I was waiting on the results from a civil service test. Another two weeks and I would've had an offer somewhere else.
>>1316207
I have worked with way too many people with very shallow skill sets. I can't believe how many developers only know one language, can't use a database, can't install drivers, can't lay out a window/page, etc. And then these mooks get promoted to where they can enforce that lack of diversification on everybody else.
I went to an art school (for a certain degree) and I still got no job from it. Market's saturated and unless you're able to squeeze through and be lucky, you'll be in this position for a fucking long time.
I seriously want to fucking kill myself. I don't understand how I got to this. I just wanted to be successful and happy by getting college education and start my career early. Instead I've ended up in this dead end I got myself in and have to actually have to think about the pain of dying so I don't actually kill myself.
I wish I came to /biz/ when I was in high school. If only I was introduced to the degree memes earlier I may have not have wasted my parents' and my own money on this shit degree.
>>1304208
Starting a job in 8 days. Gonna get paid $4500/month. I still honestly don't know how I got the job because beforehand I've only worked part time jobs before.
$4.5k ain't the best, but it's a helluva lot better than $200-$600/month and I'll easily be able to pay off my student loans+car note in less than 2 years. I finally made it and I'm so happy right now.
>>1317124
Nice, bro. What type of job is it?
I'm working as an analyst in one big company and got invitation for an interview for other, even bigger corp. The problem is, I don't really want to change my job that much, I like it and have established decent reputation here. So I'm just planning to set my expected salary at high amount and if they accept that, I'll change. The question is how much can I say, relative to normal market salary for my kind of profession, that won't make them think I'm a retard and never call me again? I'm thinking 1.5 since it's the most I can imagine them actually hiring me for.
>>1307103
What happened there?
>need experience to get an "entry level" job
>need job to get experience
>savings are slowly running out
For finance/accounting does it take a long time to find employment? Should I get a restaurant job in the meantime, a lot around me are hiring waitresses and such. But they only pay like 10 and meanwhile my starting jobs would be 16+. Is it a waste of time to work in a restaurant?
>>1307343
I heard RH was a scam. Do they hook you up with good shit or just bumjobs? I mean, if you say they're legit I'll go for it, anon.
I interviewed with another recruitment firm, VincentBenjamin, and the guy was bro tier. I feel good about it.
>>1304211
Housekeeping at a fucking salmon nigger casino.
>>1307876
Common in finance/accounting in burgerstan. I feel like it should be illegal, but I also feel unpaid internships should be illegal but hey, not like anyone gives a shit about us.
>>1312977
>>1312896
This. I didn't work so I could focus on school, also because all the jobs would have been an hour commute or more each way plus traffic (terrible area.) I should have done it anyway. If you graduate without experience you're fucked. Doesn't help that during college I was working on correcting my social retardation, which I managed to fix pretty well and I can talk to people like a normie now, but while I was like that it would have been impossible to get an internship.
>>1317055
>follow your passion anon :^)
My parents encouraged me to go to art school because I liked to doodle shitty animu. Glad I didn't listen. I also write novels but sure as hell ain't no english major. Everyone over 30 is retarded when it comes to giving career advice because they had it easy and don't know what it is really like now.
>>1304208
I've been working IT jobs in Ohio for twenty years. I'm on year 9 at a real nice gig at a public library. Pay isn't really very high, but the benefits are fantastic (4 wks paid vacation + fed holiday) but the cost of living is so damn low here it's very cozy so I can't complain much.
I hate it here, though. I hate Ohio. I hate every day I come home from work to a house I hate.
I have to leave.
I've got the opportunity to move close to my surviving family members down in Deltona Florida. They just bought a house down there and it's big enough I could rent a room till I get back on my feet.
I have no contacts or network anywhere in that area. I've applied to a few jobs, but out-of-state applicants are bottom of the barrel and didn't even generate a rejection email. It's hardly worth trying till I get down there.
I've got enough money saved up to live cozy for about 6-8 months. Up to a year if I'm frugal. I'm still going in blind.
I figure I'm OK. I'm ready to shoot myself now in Ohio, so if after a year in Florida I can't find a job or keep enough money coming through side business to keep rent I can tap my retirement fund early. That'll keep me going for another few years. If I still can't make it, I figure I can just shoot myself down there instead.
Or maybe I'll just buy a rickety boat, live on the water, and live on crabs and alligators. That's my retirement plan.
>Apply for job last week
>Get interview offer on Monday
>Interview on Wednesday
>Get job offer Thursday, $58k salary
You guys must either be fucking stupid or unlikable if it's taking you so long to find a job.
>>1319165
I'm convinced that everyone who posts in /biz/ makes $30,000/year.
Everyone who posts about how they haven't worked in years is lying for attention.
Everyone who posts about how they make shittons of money is lying for attention.
I finished my BS in Chemistry, spent the last month applying and finally got in for an interview and got hired. I'm excited to get out there, but everyone I tell the details to tell me it's shit for someone with a college degree. I make $17/hr, and I'll make more than a lot of my family, but I don't know if I went wrong somewhere and I should be doing more. I was excited and thought it was big money, but everyone tells me people with college degrees should be salaried and making ridiculous amounts of money like 60K.
Was a chem degree a mistake? I find the subject interesting, but I don't want to be a financial failure.
>>1319259
Those people sound like baby boomers, to be honest you're lucky to even find a chemistry related job with anything less than a masters
>>1319154
this made me laugh a fuckload thanks anon lost a lot of money the past few days
>>1319259
If you like chemistry it's a success. You should figure out your own business model while you work there. There's quite a few options that have such a high skill level that they have not been exploited. I can think of one such now and I'm going to try to turn a 4k investment into 100k but it will be challenging.
