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Thread Topic:
What BBs do you shoot? Weight? Normal or bio? How do they feed? What kind of a gun, what mags?
>>1251742
>What BBs do you shoot? Weight? Normal or bio? How do they feed? What kind of a gun, what mags?
I generally shoot .2s and sometimes .23s, all are normal since the biodegradable arent even that biodegradable.
For a G&P EBR and a TM HK416
>>1251920
oh and the EBR uses midcaps 4 are CYMA, which work better than the metal MAG ones, and a single G&P Midcap, the TM416 uses the one Mid cap it came with and 3 TM Hi-Caps
Gletcher Grach or Socom Gear Oasis?
>>1251742
I only shoot lazerdot .3s, bio if the field requires. have an hpa using pmags
>>1251742
>What BBs do you shoot? Weight? Normal or bio? How do they feed? What kind of a gun, what mags?
Elite Force normal .25s and .32s. They feed very well. .25s for my rifle and .32s for my pistol
.20 vs. .12 Obviosly I only use .20 in my m4 but I've considered .25 recently. But who here shall argue for the .12
>>1252024
I doubt anyone here is going to destroy their 400 dollar gun with .12s
>Find an item that's not MAP controlled
>It's on sale so it's not usable with promo codes
Fucking Evike, man.
>>1251962
on what brand of mags? The CYMAs feed perfect since the follower is indented as if its cupping the BB as a opposed to the rounded follower on the MAG, and the G&P. The G&P Feed alright as well, but compared to the CYMAs out of the box, Id go with them over the MAGs, I only paid forty bucks for the four pack anyways. But still the G&P Magwell is a bit too tight for the MAGs, but once you get them seated, they aint going anywhere
>>1252024
>But who here shall argue for the .12
But why would you? They're only usable in cheap $10 springers since those guns can'r propel .20s at a decent enough speed to be felt.
>>1252054
I just wanted to see if anyone could or would honestly
>>1252032
I saw a kid using a bottle of crossman bbs from dick's sporting goods. It killed all 6 of his midcaps and shattered in his valken m4.
>>1252038
Evike is a mixed bag. Some sales are better than the coupon codes, but they're a MAP seller so that makes them part of the cancer.
>>1251742
0.2 for lmg since they're lighter,my lmg could spit them out faster and having smaller dimension means i can squeeze more in my box,0.26 for normal aeg,0.36 for snipers
>>1250382
It's Ho Chi Minh City you american capitalist pigscum
>>1251742
I run 0.2's usually for my AEG. Though I keep a mag of 0.4's incase there's a few assholes who refuse to call hits on the other team.
I run 0.4's on my Sniper as base though.
Ordered myself this pretty rifle
>>1252266
>smaller dimension
????
they're all the same size it's just what their made of that dictates the weight, otherwise you would need different barrel sizes
>>1252314
>I'm insecure about my penis: The rifle
>>1252332
Nice dick shot there
>>1252332
>>I'm insecure about my penis: The rifle
what did he mean by this?
>>1252332
Are you the same guy who made pretty much the same comment on this rifle
>>1252410
Anytime
>>1252410
Y-you're being mean to me :'( yamate
>>1252426
Are you gonna start crying, sissy?
>>1252464
N-no.. stop it you bully
>>1252474
Look at the small dicked faggot, he's crying!
>>1252492
I just thought the gun looked cool my penis is perfectly fine!
>>1252501
Fine for a bottom bitch maybe.
>>1252591
>>1252599
I think I scared him off, what a shame~.
>>1252599
>>1252615
Only if they apologize..
>>1252620
yo this little twink is trying to get us to be nice, nah we eat little guys like you for breakfast, weeb
>>1252620
Sorry cutie, I won't be so mean next time.
>>1252652
Now do you wanna give me some contact info? Maybe Steam or something? J-just so I can get more of your Yui collection.
>>1252661
I want in on this special moment too
>>1252661
I've pretty much used up what I have, sorry senpai
>>1252675
Back off he's mine!
>>1252676
Give me something anyway, I'll find some use for you.~
>>1252683
I meant part of the info exchange as a whole but that's cool too. I have my own autistic friends
>>1252697
Oh, did you just want friends? Sure I guess, you might already have me tho. Whatcha wanna get me on? Skype, Steam, etc?
I was thinking maybe a zeemap or something for the /asg/ OP might be handy to help airsofters find other local airsofters.
Great way to kick the thread off my dudes.
>>1252712
I'd like the steam cause I cut off my skype long ago. Cool picture
>>1252719
I never expected a lame joke about dicksize to turn into this desu but it was funny and I regret nothing.
>>1252722
http://steamcommunity.com/id/fly_away_now
Be careful, my steam is pretty hiiiiiiiiigh level.
>>1252734
sent ;)
>>1252750
Lying is a sin, anon.
>>1252765
I'm trying
>>1252765
>>1252775
I guess Steam is acting up again. You could try again in a bit, it'll probably have fixed itself by then.
>>1252781
I feel like I've been diddled here
hey, just wanting to say I love you guys
>>1252794
Love you too, anon
>>1252793
Your account looks dead and you're not even online. Glad to see you're from Portland tho, might be moving there.
>>1252791
I promise you I haven't been declining or anything, and you sure as heck ain't on my block list.
>>1252794
Love you too anon, you boys are a lot of fun.
It's like steam down't want me to get friends. Fuck me right?
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198045038827/
Here's my link if anyone wants to try it the other way around
>>1252810
I'm online now senpai
>>1252314
nice,long barrel aeg are always a good sign of a lengthy penis size
>>1252321
really,i thought there was a size differential in bb,maybe i missed some important checks here and then
>>1252726
that's actually pretty slick
>>1252314
Nice dick compensator nerd
Who makes a decent MP5 metal body that isn't $100+?
>>1253365
Receiver or the whole gun?
>>1253368
reciever. I have a umarex sportline, and it's fine but the plastic is starting to get a bit chewed up
>>1253468
Nice choice of BBs, just remember to clean your barrel after using G&G, as they leave lots of shit
>>1253472
You've been spouting that mantra forever and I still disagree with you.
>>1252183
MAP is a necessary evil. Without it retailers would simply cut each other's throats. Sites like evike and airsoft GI would put every brick and mortar airsoft store out of business which would be a big blow to the game and cause fields that rely on equipment sales to go out of business.
>>1252183
MAP protects other buisiness like >>1253548 said and if you want to call someone cancer the VENDOR aka the people who make the products tell companies what prices they can sell their products at. I've worked in retail and everyone complains about prices or warranties when we can only go as far as the vendors allow us to. If a company sells below that amount the vendor can just tell them to fuck off and revoke their contracts with them meaning they can't sell those products anymore.
Here's a weird problem for you.
My AK has decided it wants me to have to pull the trigger four times for it to fire once. I've taken the motor off and tried it seperate from the grarbox, itt stops turning after a second or so even when I'm holding the trigger down in full auto, so it's obviously not turning far enough to pull the piston back. I've tried it with two other motors, and it's the same problem.
I'm running 7.4v lipos through a jefftron mosfet, and I've tried three different batteries too.
Which part did I break this time?
>>1253826
what ak model is that
>>1253953
dboys RK-01
>>1253826
Sounds like theres something wrong with the trigger assembly. Maybe the lips aren't getting a good contact with the sledge. Maybe you've somehow burn't the contacts despite having a mosfet. There might also be a partial short circuit somewhere.
>>1254069
Okay, thanks.
>>1251742
I use Valkan .3 in my CQB m4 and pistol
The admins always ask why when they crono
I just shrug and say that I always play sniper and they're the only gram BB I ever buy
For my lmg I use .20s now. I used to use .25. Feeding seems to be the same.
Does /asg/ wash their BBs before use?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rbuYDWr__Fs
>>1254108
Fuck no. Only retards do that.
Elixir 0.28s for my 475 fps ar-15
Whatever 0.25s come out of my can (mixture of nuprols, valkens, rockets, blasters and whatever the hell taiwangun sells. I don't really care.)
I just like to have a mix of colours :3
>>1253826
Put the mosfet in the trash where it belongs.
>>1254134
But then I'll burn even more contacts D:
>>1254141
I've run several Ak's for years on an 11.1 and never had a problem. Your motor is likely the issue if you're killing contacts like that.
>>1254188
It's not necessarily the motor that's causing the high amp draw. If the gearbox isn't shimmed well, every motor will have hard time pulling it. Sure it can be a part of a myriad of problems though.
>>1254188
I replaced the motor when I put the mosfet in. Now it's doing the quarter cycle thing after half a day's play.
>>1254208
What motor did you buy then?
>>1254108
That looks like it will add even more gunk
>>1254223
A Commander GP1000 High Torque. I've tried the old stock motor and a random marui one I have lying around, they're doing the same thing.
>>1254241
I've had couple of those. They should be good motors.
How expensive it is to do a HPA conversion? I know nothing about the entire HPA thing but I got a guy willing to sell me his Vector for a good price (only one magazine though) and all people keep saying is that if I'm getting a GBB I should convert the thing to HPA or install a P*or not get a GBB at all.
>>1254419
HPA is more about initial price. Once you get it going, they cost as much as a standard AEG, minus air, which is still relatively cheap.
GBB will still be expensive, simply because of magazines.
>>1254466
>HPA is more about initial price
How expensive it is that initial part, more or less? Minus the price of the replica and mags.
I believe I'm supposed to convert all my mags to HPA 'drilling' for valves and whatnot as far as I can see, so for the sake of a more specific answer lets say I buy 6 mags.
I assume there are other benefits to HPA other than the relative inexpensiveness of it? More stable FPS over the course of a long match, possibility of changing pressure to increase/reduce FPS?
I see a lot of HPA adaptors for regular gas mags. How does that work?
>>1254419
GBB converted to HPA with magazine adapter is pain in the ass. Either you're stuck with a hicap or you have to swap the hose from mag to mag everytime you reload. If you want to convert something to HPA, go with DaytonaGun kit which is probably the most expensive way.
The cheapest Wolverine / PolarStar / Protech kits cost approx 300-500$. The more expensive models have better adjustability options.
Mancraft PDiKS is the cheapest one costing only 220€ and it works well with their own 50€ regulator. It only fires semi auto though.
Tippmann sells their own M4 rifle for 450$. It's fully mechanical like Mancraft, doesn't require a regulator at all and it has recoil.
Tanks cost about 50-200$ depending on how much air and weight you want to carry.
PolarStar, Wolverine and Protech require approx 100-150$ regulator like Ninja LPR or Wolverine Storm. They also need a small 5-10$ battery.
Remote lines cost 20-30$ and connectors maybe 5$ a piece.
>Which one is best for me?
If you want recoil, go with DaytonaGun. Tippmann if you don't want to spend too much money.
If you want the most silent DMR in the field, go with Mancraft.
If you want high RPS or burst fire, go with PolarStar / Wolverine / ProTech. I can't really say which model is the best of the bunch though.
I think Amped Airsoft has pretty straightforward website for purchasing HPA kits.
>>1254501
>I assume there are other benefits
Trigger response, adjustable RPS and they can be made very loud or very silent.
>>1254547
Lmbao if you aren't using a Daytona in 2016
>>1254547
Very informative post Anon. Thank you.
I thought HPA conversion meant going the magazine adapter route exclusively. Considered everything else P*-type conversions which, even though it is the most convenient and desirable is something that I wanted to avoid because of the price.
Taking into consideration all you have said in your post I'll go either with Mancraft (cheap and I use semi-auto 90% of the time anyways) or simply use magazine adapters (cheap as well, worst case scenario I do more transitions to my sidearm and after checking some videos it's not that much of a hassle to swap hoses). That said, nothing is set on stone so I might be getting ahead of myself.
Again, thank you for your post.
97 post in and I'm dying from cancer.
Thanks.
>Doesnt know how stuff works. The post.
>>1254600
>being hpa cancer
>>1254655
>being jealous
>>1254657
i could buy one right now if i wanted. I really don't care about having one. but every time you see some faggot making airshit look bad its an hpa user.
>>1254105
>playing in the rain.
I bet those guns are fucked now.
>>1254667
>being a fairsofter
>>1254665
2nd this.
>>1254667
What is: drying out your guns.
>>1254670
Sorry if I don't want water in my shit causing it to break.
>>1254655
Found the poorfag
>>1254689
Don't have wiring exposed then and don't drop it in a puddle
>>1254690
i have a real AR
>>1254694
>doesn't have an lmg or a pkm in which the wires go outs off the gun or the bb hose outside of the gun.
>>1254655
>>1254657
>>1254667
>>1254670
>>1254665
For every rare 1 HPA user that's cancer there's 200 people complaining about HPA being cancer it seems. If its that bad at your field why doesn't your field enforce the rules?
>>1254689
Water won't break a aeg unless you're using a ptw or a mosfet but even if you're using a mosfet shrink wrap the chip.
If you're just using that as a lame excuse you must be a lazy fat ass.
>Your order no. XXXX has been sent
I love this feeling.
>>1254655
>>1254665
Dude do you even know what a DG is?
>>1254763
Isn't it great?
>>1251920
I use Valken orange 0.25s They're only available in bulk, but they're unique and track well enough for cheaper than buying individual bottles. I've been really happy with the consistency and precision of Valken bbs after buying some of their pinks (which track horribly, but are still fairly unique). When playing outdoors I just use standard Valken 0.25 bios. They don't swell in humidity so that's good enough for me.
>>1253370
>umarex sportline
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You did this to yourself. That gun is not a gun you're going to do anything with other than replace. Start saving for the elite model if you want something nicer.
>>1254854
It was £40, I bought it to be a beater to loan out to friends. Just want to put it in a shell that isn't going to disintegrate.
>>1254865
Not gonna happen. MP5s are like the least standardized popular AEG out there outside the v2 gearbox. Since you're in the UK, pick up an SRC MP5. Those are stamped steel.
>>1254689
>his guns can't handle rain
Aaaaand yet another point for HPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KprfUUca79w
>>1254876
>MP5s are like the least standardized popular AEG out there
You'd think such an iconic gun would have more support, it seems like I can't seem to find an MP5 that isn't dogshit
>>1254899
Not true. If you short out your FCU, you're even more boned than with an aeg. You'd need a fully mechanical system like Mancraft (like you posted), DG, or Tippmann. GBBRs would have exactly the same advantages as well.
>>1252775
Heey! Ghost, its you! Where have you been?
>>1254912
>Aaaaand yet another con for AEGs that have been built by retards
>Aaaaand yet another point for every other HPA design
Okay, which one would you like better?
>>1254672
Nice to see everyone using my crop job
>>1254925
Just doin' things and fucking up my sleep schedule. I'm online now if you wanna talk. <3
>>1254801
Oooo-ooh god my pants. What is this sexy piece of machinery?
>>1254927
Neither. You're just shilling. I wouldn't want to play in the rain either, but not because of the potential damage to my gun, I just don't like running around in the pouring fucking rain. The addition of raindrops fucking my accuracy and range makes it even less savory. In drizzle or mist conditions no one's gun is gonna fuck up either, so the only conditions where mechanical gas systems are an advantage are ones where you wouldn't be playing with anyone anyway.
>>1254854
I've never had any real problem with my Umarex G36. Only issue I have is the need for a MOSFET. Other than that it functions perfectly fine
>>1254936
Eeh, not much for me to really talk about.
>>1254952
Sounds good! I'm always happy to talk if you wanna, and usually have something to ramble on about too.
>>1254941
>Because my body is made out of sugar, there's no scenario where HPA could be better.
You sure you want to go with that?
>>1254941
>I just don't like running around in the pouring fucking rain
You are missing out bro
>>1254980
To be fair, depending on where you are, running around in the rain and the mud is just plain unpleasant.
>>1254980
True that. It's where the game gets down and dirty. Definitely brings up your tolerance for getting wet and dirty
>>1254971
>Because I'm a HIIIIIIIGH LEEEEEVEEEEEEEL player, everyone else should be.
Know how everyone says they think playing in the snow would be really cool, but then you actually go out to a snow event and almost no one is there? It's like that.
>>1254980
Nah, I got enough of that in high school football. Besides, I'm in Wisconsin. 90% of the time it's raining it's cold and miserable, and I could do without the cold.
>>1254991
Brit here. It doesn't stop me, but it's not particularly nice. And wet clay is horrible to run on.
>>1255004
I remember the time I fought in mud so bad it turned my UCP into actual camouflage
>>1254939
Daytona Gun FAL kit.
>>1254697
The acog on my Daytona costs as much as your AR :^)
>>1254996
I played airsoft all the way through winter and there were plenty of people to play with. Some fields are of course more popular during the winter than others. Just because you can't handle weather, doesn't mean that no one else couldn't. There's actually a definition for that sort of behauviour. It's called projection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuvmc2tsV3Y
>>1254930
Your crop is shit, what's the point of a fuckhuge image
>>1255090
Here's the image for an ant like you.
>>1255089
Airsoft in Finland must be pretty neat since nearly all the guys would have had some modicum of military training if not straight up weapons handling.
>>1254665
>i could buy one right now if i wanted. I really don't care about having one.
poorfag
>>1255104
The military service here is an extended summer camp for most people at this point. The people who try to act as if they were high ranking officers in some random weekend skirmishes, are the most obnoxious people in the whole airsoft scene. They usually have massive egoes and if someone isn't willing to execute their masteful strategy and play by their rules, they throw a bitch fit.
>>1255187
Sounds like American milsim games except with enlisted who didn't do shit aside from live on a base.
>>1254930
I took that image actually.
>>1255260
Not bad, I had gotten it from the poster from someone two threads ago, I cropped it for them and I saved the picture
I'm thinking about building a batch of these:
http://www.airsoftsociety.com/gun-registry/the-ass-1900.html
If I were to build a bunch of these things, would you want one?
>>1255386
I would, whether or not I would be allowed to use one on field is a different story
>>1255386
>Florida man, 20, charged for manslaughter; Shot custom made 12 gauge shotgun shells at an Airsoft event.
I just bought a boneyard gun to fix up and maybe flip. Everything looks new and the warranty card is in the box. Could I just fill that sucker out and file a warranty claim?
>>1255399
REST IN PEACE KID
https://youtu.be/DFkyENRDuaI
>>1254980
it doesn't rain here,it pours
so you have winds reaching up to 25 miles,severely affecting the trajectory of your bb,water coming up to your goggles,meaning you can't see shit past 10 metres,the howling wind makes you not hear anything and constant sprinkle of rain droplets mean you don't know if it's a hit or not
sure that sounds brilliantly fun to me
>>1255193
goddamn enlisted piss me of so much sometimes,there's one dickhead who try to flash off his rank every time and wants everyone to call him sir (naturally no one did)
they treat this shit seriously when all i wanna do is have some fun
>>1256893
mmm watcha saaayyy
Unpopular opinion time:
Honestly, I don't mind having under-18s at games. They don't show up for big outdoor things, but the 13-17-year-old ones in my area that do CQB are pretty good at following directions, calling hits, and actually being decent players.
It's the manchildren with the HPAs you need to worry about, especially this one midget cunt who REFUSES to call hits.
>>1257259
Tfw hpa user and call hits on everything, including gun and ricochets
>>1257259
Yeah there are guys that show up to pickup games in full milsim gear that WILL NOT call their hits! One guy had welts on his face and was arguing with a ref on wether or not he got hit. I swear you shoot them, they flinch, then return fire
>>1257396
This. And they always wear multicam.
>>1257396
thank god i haven't encountered those breed yet
i mean jesus christ how petty can you be not calling your hit
>>1257396
this is why i refuse to play in kit.
>>1255603
What kind of an event allows anyone to shoot home made ammo like that? Holy fuck.
Hello /asg/,
I come from /k/ where I just heard about milsim west and was wondering if any of you had experience with them.
I was also wondering what guns you guys recommend in the form of Russian weaponry. I'm trying to decide between gas blow back and an AEG.
I have played before, mostly backyard shit or local places, I currently have an Echo 1 MTC 2.
I've also played milsim before, but it was paintball.
Thanks
I have a situation I'd like to put out. What if your gun got hit but not you. Like the body of the gun was hit and ricocheted away from you and you managed to get into cover without a single hit on your body. Do the hits to your gun count or was I safe? Just wondering if I was in the right or wrong here.
>>1258232
Gun hits usually do not count unless specifically stated.
Would this make a good stand-in for the Wu Silent Pistol?
http://www.evike.com/products/47964/
>>1258232
Depends. Most indoor fields count gear-hits.
>>1258370
It was like a field game but just between friends. Nothing official and they didn't make a big deal out of it.
>>1258395
So, no worries.
>>1258202
well son,you gotta tell about your budget,playstyle,gear,preference etc
also russian weaponry is pretty broad,pkm,ak,dragunov,mosin etc you gotta specify that shit
>>1254702
Listen here, motherfucker. There are ways to prevent that.
1. Use deans connectors
2. Since I use an RC car battery, I made a block out of foam the gun came packed in. This keeps the bbs from falling out, keeps shit out of the open door, and protects the wires from getting hit.
3. The bb hose for the pkm is internal
>>1258470
Almost like I know what I'm doing.
>>1258202
>gas blow back
Not even once if you plan on playing
>Russian
Anything off the echo 1 redstar line. They're cyma .40+ series, except they have madbul hop ups already installed.
>>1254980
>Go to a night game with friends
>It decides to rain because Florida
>Sneaking around innawoods while soaked to the bone, but my goretex night parka keeps me comfy
Didn't even shoot that much, but it was pretty damn fun.
>>1258202
Cyma CM40+ series, or E&L and LCT for higher end guns with a better finish.
>>1258067
>>1255603
I've used it at every field in nj and a couple in PA and MD.
>>1254910
Blame Jewmarex for that shit.
>>1258202
You want AEG for reliability, unless you can afford a HPA rig. Since you're from /k/ I'm assuming you're not a poorfag so look at E&L or Real Sword for AK brands. If you're going to go full ruskie kit you can be a basic bitch and get a smersh & gorka, or go full blyat with the little green man look. I'm sure there are some slav pros here that will point you to the right models of equipment.
And as always, pic related.
>>1258461
I was thinking an ak-74
>>1258493
>>1258513
Cool I'll check on those
>>1258535
Am already green man, pic related is real shit
>>1258202
All depends on how much you wanna spend on your gun. $200 and below range will get you a steel CYMA no problem, and if you have another $50-$100, that would go a long way in getting upgrade parts for even better performance since each one could use a good shimming and an AOE adjustment. Mags are also feed very well and are cheap as dirt.
After that is the $300+ range, that's where you'll find LCTs and E&Ls, both steel AEGs with very tight fit and finishes. LCT have better internals over all, but E&L externals come with a nice blued finish if you prefer that sort of thing. Both are a bit picky with magazines, so LCT or G&P branded midcaps would be best.
In the $400+ range, that's where you'll find the only GBBRs you should even consider for MSW: GHK. They're very well known for their reliability and durability, and since they're GBBRs, they operate and takedown like real AKs. Main downside is that magazines are like $50 each and you only get 30 rounds per mag which need to be filled with gas (or CO2 if you buy the $70 CO2 mags) and they won't perform quite as well in cold temperatures. So you can very easily double the cost of your gun with a full kit.
Finally, since it's a Milsim West event, you COULD just get a real AK, set it up for blank firing and run that. You'd need a pistol or something for a sidearm to engage inside of where shooting banks would be dangerous, but it's totally something doable if you want to put in the time and money.
As for MSW as a company, their format is well regarded around here, but the Rushing Russians, the Warsaw impressionists who show up at every single MSW event, have gotten pretty obnoxious in their memeing of late. Add to that the NATO forces are basically a punching bag at this point, they don't draw the same excitement they used to. Not to say they're not a great company to go play with and they put on great events at better and better AOs, so go for it, you'll have a blast.
>>1258583
I recognize that picture.
And you need to go all the way there. New rig and helmet minimum
>>1258586
>real ak
I have
>>1258589
I plan on getting a PC from Russia this summer
>>1258594
Damn that's cheap, but is it good?
>>1258583
Just an FYI, in airsoft, ak74 and ak47 mags are cross compatible. So you can use whichever are available.
>>1258600
>ak74 and ak47 mags are cross compatible
This triggers my autism
I can spend $200-$300 for a gun and mags, what should I go for?
>>1258595
I've sworn by the cyma and red star aks man. I've ran them hard, and they've never broke from use.
>>1258605
That sounds good.
Accurate? Hit hard? Noticeable drop? Will I need to upgrade anything?
>>1258604
Whatever tickles your fancy.
>>1258604
You can use 7.62 mags in a 74M and get away with it by calling it an AK-103.
>>1258605
I've always but an m4 man but link me to some good aks please.
>>1258608
The only "issue" I've had with the redstar ones is, I've had to brake in the hop up with a few hundred rounds before they became consistent in terms of optimal range and overall accuracy.
With that said, after the break in, the accuracy and range maintained much better
>>1258493
>Recommending Echo1
>Telling him to pay $100 extra for a $6 hop-up bucking and some shitty fake trademarks
What are you doing son?
>>1258592
>>1258595
>>1258604
Alright, so if you want, you can modify your real AK for blank fire and then shoot blanks instead of BBs. It's courtesy to call hits, but it's great for setting the mood. From there, you can pick up a standard gbb pistol of your choosing and spend as little as $175 on that plus two extra mags.
If you'd rather not go the blankfire route for whatever reason, for 200-300, I'd recommend just getting a CYMA model of your choosing and installing upgrade parts. The gears and motor should all be fine, but replacing the full cylinder and barrel assemblies goes a lone way. At the very least you should reshim it and adjust for AOE. Steel CYMA AKs all have a model number of CM.04X.
>>1258634
>not wanting a 30 day warranty and additional quality-control checks
>>1258647
Stupid. Ebb is only putting more stress on the piston. Pneumatic blow back is ok, but isn't available on Ak's as far as I know. Good ones at least.
>>1258661
Really glad I came here and asked this stuff
>>1258647
One more thing to break. The CYMA CM050 guns are solid, but I'd recommend disabling the recoil first off.
>>1258675
Everything they make with the exceptions of their Ak's is shit.
>>1258697
So i wasn't 100% wrong
>>1258703
Pretty much. Even their low end cm.028 is very solid on the internal level.
>>1258703
Out of the box for MSW? Probably not since they very often shoot just above 400fps brand new. You'd either need to cut the spring or maybe just break in the spring and hope it shoots low enough. Ideally, you'd want to fix the AOE and reshim to make sure it doesn't break on you half-way through the OP.
>>1258739
Can you explain reshim and AOE?
>>1258723
>Even their low end cm.028 is very solid on the internal level.
if they're solid on the internal level... Wouldn't that make them
H I G H L E V E L?
>>1258743
Shimming is how well the gears mesh together without wobbling. AOE = angle of engagement.
If you get an echo 1 version, neither of these should be an issue. With that said, I've never experienced them with the cyma ones either.
>>1258697
They apparently make a good M14.
>>1258750
What mags work with the CYMAs? I was looking at mid caps.
>>1258697
i like their p90
>>1258764
In my experience, all of them that are marui compatible. Stay away from g&p mags, as the springs in them are shit.
D-boy mags work, but they have to be fitted. Your best bet is to stick with king arms and cyma brand mags.
>>1258768
Awesome thanks guys
>>1258768
One more, will matrix mags work?
>>1258771
If it's a Marui clone they'll fit perfect.
>>1258774
Fantastic, you guys here at /asg/ are very helpful
>>1258771
The matrix mags are strange. According to the owner of the shop I work at, matrix brand stuff is just extras of what's left after a batch. So it could be any Chinese brand mag. More than likely they are cyma, but just be careful when buying matrix brand stuff. Especially bbs.
>>1258743
AOE is angle of engagement, or how the Sector Gear engages with the piston. Poor AOE can result in your piston stripping.
Shimming is making sure your gears are engaging correctly and not wobbling all over the place.
>>1258770
Matrix mags are CYMA mags, and they're all great.
>>1258750
Oh bullshit. Echo1 don't open the gearboxes, they only replace the bucking and maybe the motor.
>>1258784
Let me be a little more clear. pretty much, it's the surplus from whatever company "X" had left.
>>1258776
well thank you
now play nice there at msw senor
>>1255386
Looks neat
I'd get one for shits and giggles
>>1257259
>Muh HPA cancer
Cool meme
I've seen plenty of tryhards with custom 600 dollar AEGs flip out.
Use real guns you faggots
>>1259170
I'm not into Detroit style airsoft thank you very much.
>>1259170
If I ever see you, I will
>>1258535
>guy wants russian kit
>Recommends Real Sword
anon is retarded, proved twice with his image
>>1259248
Stupid pic aside how is he retarded for recommending Real Sword?
>>1259275
Chinese AKs are different to Russian AKs. Real Sword makes airosft models of Chinese weapons.
>>1259278
Ah I forgot that RS were Chinese
Anyone aside from slav-pros wouldn't notice though but yeah it won't be completely accurate. Real Swords are still very nice.
>>1259294
It's not for anybody it's for him, he is the one who wants a true slavshit thingy.
Are you one of those that buys stuff just beacuse it's rare and everybody can go suck your dick?
>>1259364
No need for being autistically mad I just said Real Swords are nice guns.
>>1259294
>"Anyone aside from slav-pros wouldn't notice though"
You're an AR faggot. I can tell.
>>1257259
They are just conforming because they are new to the game.
Aren't them kids hate getting pushed around constantly?
>>1259407
yeah fucking kids are full of angst and won't hear for shit,going off as arrograntly instead of doing something of remotely intelligible
i don't remember being that disobedient and angsty when i was young
>still havent found a fix for F2000 semi not working properly
The fucks said the newer versions had it fixed. It aint. Feels bad that I cant really use it on cqb when the semi is so unreliable.
>you will never see an airsoft sks made by a Reputable company.
>>1259416
Thanks
>want a Glock 17 to put one of those new RWA/PTS slide kits on
>can't find anything but glock knockoffs
Life is pain
Slavabo again, what battery should I get to go with the ak?
>>1259705
Also 75 or 104? Does the difference in barrel length for the two matter that much?
>>1259705
The biggest, baddest and meanest LiPo that fits inside.
>>1259705
9.6 volts m'sir
>playing with toys
>>1259730
As opposed to not playing with toys? Or playing with no-toys?
Aren't toys designed to be played with, after all?
>>1259730
you got a problem with plastic ball shooting rooty tooty son?
>>1259729
Stick type? Any reason a higher voltage is worse? Also about how many would I need for a 4 0hour game?
>>1259718
Naw dawg not really.
I would almost say go for an AKS-74U for comforts sake and an added benefit if you end up in a CQB field.
>>1259776
Alright cool, thank you
