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>Brandon
Fuck off
I'm 23 (male) and never dated. I've recently just moved on my own and have an actual job. Thing is, this job isn't what I want in five, six, years or so. There's some other stuff I'm pursuing and as a result, I'm focusing solely on those goals and I haven't ever given dating a though. Is this something you grow out of? I've always kept myself busy by focusing on a task.
I mean sure, I've thought about relationships, but never enough to where it captivates me. It's just like "oh, yeah, how about that?" and I just kinda shrug it off. The only thing is I'm kind of afraid of eventually opening up to the idea, but being much older without any sort of dating experience, like how to even go on a date, etc.
>>16913277
I don't think there'd be any harm in going on dates, even if you don't plan to get a girlfriend. It'd give you something to balance out your life, and it might end up in a relationship. It'd get you out and meeting new people, not just girls, too.
>>16913299
Well that's the thing is I don't even know how I'd get to that point. I don't go anywhere but to work or to the store. In the free time I do get, I've been working on some creative stuff and am looking to start some acting classes soon. I get so absorbed in what I'm doing, I'm going to end up being 65 before I even want to settle down. I know that's an exaggeration, but still. I can't force it either, you know?
>>16913375
No, I agree, don't force it. But don't become complacent either. Dating and relationships should complement and supplement your life, not become your life completely.
Guys: where do you get your ideas about what relationships are like and what to expect from them from? I imagine you don't consume romcoms and whatnot like women do
>>16913566
TV, because I they usually show long term relationships a lot more than movies do, although I know a lot of what is on it is just for entertainment value.More recently here and a lot of other places on the internet and how my friends relationships work.
>>16913566
Be a little more specific please
What I "expect"/want out of a relationship is entirely different than what most relationships are like I expect.
>>16913277
>Is this something you grow out of? I've always kept myself busy by focusing on a task
Kind of? I had the samething. My first date was at 24.
Up until then I never really put too much effort at all in to thinking about dating, because it felt like I had much more important things to deal with. Then I met a girl that turned my world upside down, and decided to take a chance with her. It failed, but it made me realize that I'd been making excuses for years, and that dating wasn't that hard, exhausting, distracting, intimidating, or anything else. Dating was just a thing like any other.
I just started throwing in dates in to my casual life, and continued on like normal.
>>16913566
>Guys: where do you get your ideas about what relationships are like and what to expect from them from?
Parents. For better or worse, they're the biggest influence in your life, and you either learn to follow their example, or learn to use their example as a template for what not to do.
For me personally, my ideas about relationships comes from my own personal philosophy. I've always believed in freedom of communication, equanimity, and your partner should be someone who helps make you a better version of yourself, and who you do the same for.
But if I think about it, a lot of that can probably be traced back to all the pitfalls i've seen in my own parent's relationships, and the decades I've spent having to play the mediator for them.
>>16913604
I mean like, for example, how many girls grow up watching Disney princess movies and come to expect relationships to be like them
>>16913621
What I want out of a relationship is generally shaped by my religion and seeing the successful relationships of the other's in my parish. What I expect most relationships are like is shaped by seeing my atheist friend's and brother's rlationships
>>16913628
*relationships
Okay, if this is the corrected OP I'll link to my question here I guess. >>16913357
>>16913566
My parents were probably the most significant factor. They really built up this whole idea that I should try to be friends with the girl and "show what a great friend you can be" first rather than express my interest from the get go.
I don't really hold it against them since that's sort of how their marriage came about, but I had to scrap a lot of their suggestions. I think stuff like that is probably a good part of why so many men complain about the "friendzone", because they're still trying to operate with that mindset.
>>16913657
It's not about women vs women, it's about how women are sexualised and whatnot. Go and read a feminist blog if you want a proper answer.
>>16913664
It's still stupid. Bayonetta is constantly bitched about for instance, but she was literally designed by a woman to embrace her own sexuality.
Third wave feminism is what happens when people have too much free time.
Femanons
Do/Did any of you crush hard on your bffs older brother? How would you handle it if he asked you out of the blue?
My little sisters friend seems to have a thing for me. Shes normally the confident and outspoken leader of their group, but when she sees me she gets really nervous. Tbh I kinda like it because I act the same way around a 10/10. I dont have any experience but I want to finally get some, but shes probably off limits.
>>16913675
Look, I'm not one of those girls you're referring to. I don't care what other women do, don't get mad at me about it
>>16913677
All my friends had sisters or younger brothers (who were friends with my own younger brother), I couldn't answer that question.
>>16913663
Holy hell, my parents are folk time like this too.
I struggle with women because of them.
>>16913664
>read a feminist blog if you want a proper answer.
Nigger are you for real?
Why is it that men can look at Action Man and He Man and be totally chill with it? Why do womyn get triggered by Barbie so hard?
It's solely insecurity. And meta insecurity about being insecure. It's insecurception.
>>16913686
>>16913663
From a female perspective, I don't really think that there's anything wrong with being friends first. The problem is when a guy pretends to be your friend just so he can get close to you, instead of genuinely wanting to be friends.
>>16913695
It's fine if you're friends with a chick and you decide you like her down the road. Feelings change and blah blah.
But if you like her from the get go you should make your intentions clear. My parents advocated doing exactly what you're complaining about.
Both genders: what opposite gender fashion/clothing items do you not like?
I'll start: Female, I really don't like flat-brimmed hats or any other "street" clothing.
>>16913711
I don't like slutty/overly revealing clothes on women
>>16913711
I'm not really a fan of how showing skin or tight clothing is really popular.
A friend of mine was wearing a nice long skirt and a sweater, and I thought she was pretty fucking cute. Way cuter than she normally is almost dressing like a guy in a wife beater.
>>16913710
Well in that case, I agree with what you're saying
>>16913711
Female here. I hate
>button up shirts being worn over tshirts
>dirty/old clothes
>dad jeans
>snapbacks
>chunky skater shoes
>business shirts worn with jeans and running shoes
>flame shirts, trenchcoats, fedoras
>>16913711
Heels. Tacky-ass leather bags. Anything sleeveless.
And yoga pants are fuckin gross. Pants in general just don't do it for me.
Hair worn up is also super off putting.
>>16913566
Sailor Moon. When Rei tries to get with Damien.
Actually, I guess I get my ideas from video games and neon genesis evangelion.
>>16913733
B-But my unique mix of swag and class was meant to impress you m'lady
>>16913733
>dad jean
The fuck are those
![dad-jeans1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PEPlKEl.jpg "dad-jeans1[1].jpg")
>>16913743
Like mom jeans but worn by dads
>>16913566
Guys watch action series/films where the main character wins the woman like a prize.
Do you think it's just coincidence that nerds are the most entitled angry virgin betas? They've been taught they deserve companionship.
>>16913759
Those look more like Autist Jeans
>>16913759
I can understand the trench coats and fedoras but I'm not seeing what's so horrible about those.
>>16913766
Anita plz go
>>16913773
Dad detected
>>16913781
I've been called worse. I'll admit I'm partial to Hawaiian shirts and I never understood the issues with socks and sandals either.
>>16913759
Is it the light coloring or the tight fit that make those dad jeans?
>>16913790
While darker washes tend to be more aesthetically pleasing, and the fit really isn't good, I think the fact that they go up almost to his bellybutton and has his shirt tucked in is more of the problem.
>>16913802
So it's more the way it's worn than the actual jeans?
>>16913809
It could greatly be improved if it was lower on the hips (though this might just be the way it's cut), untucked shirt, and better shoes.
But I think the cut and color still aren't as flattering as they could be. Though I don't even wear jeans so I probably can't give the best insight.
>>16913277
Disregard females acquire currency
>>16913566
"American dream" and superman myths; knight in shining armor from fairy tales is why "nice guys" think they can just buy you shit and get sex. Guy movies and our parents tell us women are all crazy, bitch for no reason, and have had more sex than us. Anime for the cute shit and porn for turning your asshole inside out.
>>16913711
As a guy thongs gross me out. Seeing a "whale tale" in public is seriously disgusting.
>>16913566
From here. I only leave the house for work and I work construction so it's all men. The only females I've talked to in years are my mom and sisters.
So my ideas and expectations are what adv says, lower my standards and be confident.
Girls, if a guy who you have never seen messaged you in facebook how would you react, is it too weird? or what would be a good way to start a conversationwith this girl?
>>16913876
I DON'T KNOW YOU
THAT'S MY PURSE
>>16913876
I'd ignore it, assuming I saw it.
>>16913881
>>16913886
Even if we have friends in common?
>>16913892
Yes. Facebook mutual friends mean nothing.
I just gave my first blowjob. Is it normal for my boyfriend's semen to taste like nasty mushrooms?
>>16913895
Well into the trash it goes. I guess the only way would be aproaching her irl.
Any advice on doing that?
>>16913911
That kid ain't right
>>16913918
I'd say mine tastes like not salty oysters, but the tastes are comparable so I'd say his cum is about normal.
>>16913258
Do you think it's ok to compliment a stranger in the hope that it makes them feel happier or does it just make them feel awkward?
Women: do you and your friends refer to dudes as "guys" or "men?" I mean specifically when you're discussing members of our sex, i.e. "Guys are..." or "Men are..." Basically what I want to know is whether you actually refer to blokes over the age of 18 as men in normal conversation.
>>16913972
I think I usually say guys
>>16913966
I think it depends on a lot of things. Like what the compliment is, how you say it, who the stranger is, what kind of setting you're in.
>>16913972
guys or boys.
Why are women so fucking jealous? I have been in 3 relationships and every time they end in jealousy. The last two also commented "They have never ever had any jealousy issues except for me."
I'm not a player. I don't sleep around or flirt with any girls. I'm not exactly super attractive but I am very funny and have a skill that's very impressive and well known (to the point if I said it here people would know who I am).
The jealousy shit is killing me. Like, if I talk to any of my female friends my GFs would get super mad. I lost all my female friends because of this (they were all online friends that I talked to as well).
This girl is routinely ignoring my text messages. She used to be shit at responding, but now she's ignoring them entirely. In person she still acts normal, friend-ish. It pisses me off to no end, but pointing it out will only make it worse.
Should I put up with it or just drop her already? If she hadn't been the opposite of the type to show hints, I would've taken it long ago.
>>16913986
She most likely doesn't want to text you
>>16913984
Huh, I didn't even think to include "boys."
I also forgot to ask about your age. Or is that not even relevant, you think? Do you see yourself referring to your male peers as "men" someday in the future?
>>16913985
It's more likely that you attract and choose partners prone to jealous behavior.
>>16913993
Depends on the context I guess. I'm 20
Boys like leggings, guys watch stupid movies, she's so lucky to have a man that can cook - all referring to someone 20-25
>>16914002
Oh so there is some use of "men" then, okay.
So i like this girl but i'm never gonna hit on her because confidence issues. But i caught her staring at me lots of times, and yes i do stare at her quite a lot. We're both 6.5/10 i guess. I just wanna keep looking at her and like, passively and quietly flirting through stares and smiles. Do you girls think she would lose interest in me because i'm too much of a pussy ?
This is mostly for women but if you're a guy and you think you can help, that's OK too.
I have a few elementary questions about dating. I'm 22 but I feel like I've never done this before. I've had two girlfriends but both of them just fell into my lap so I didn't have to worry about any of this before now.
1. Movies are shit first dates, right? Even if you go somewhere after to talk, is that too much time for a first date?
2. Is it totally unacceptable to ask someone on a first date to your house? All I know is that we both love video games, so I figured we might want to play them and it's easy to talk while playing them. If it changes anything, I live in a house with three roommates who all have girlfriends, so I'm not like taking her into my dark dingy apartment with no one else around or anything.
3. Can I just ask her if she wants to go out with me and throw out some ideas if she says yes, like "Do you want to go on a date? 'Sure, doing what?' We could do X, Y, or something else." Or should I always decide for sure on one thing and ask her up front if she wants to do that?
>>16913994
maybe I do. It's weird.
Once I was talking to a girl online and we started liking each other. A week in, one of her friends added me on facebook and I asked her about who that was and again, she got incredibly jealous because apparently that girl was a massive whore and I would go off with her instead.
Never even talked to the other girl. Simply asked "Who is that: because they were mutual friends on facebook.
I know some girls treat me like I'm some kind of celebrity. I don't consider myself one at fucking all.
>>16914017
1. No, movies are fine. Get dinner or something afterwards. There's a reason dinner and movies are a cliche date
2. Depends on how well you know each other. If I barely knew the guy, I wouldn't feel comfortable going to his house. If we were friends, then going to his house would be fine
3. Come up with an idea or few, and then pitch them to her. If she shoots all but one of them down, then ask her what she'd like to do. If she response "Idk", then decide on your last idea
>>16914014
I don't know if she'd lose interest, but she'd probably think you're not interested
>>16913993
>>16913972
23 here. Depends on the context. Usually guys, sometimes men, almost never boys unless I'm talking about the male gender being immature or juvenile
>>16913966
Depends on what you say and how you say it and where you say it
>>16913985
Well you're the common denominator, so it's probably something to do with you, rather than them. Maybe you're unintentionally flirty with other girls or something
>>16913986
She probably doesn't want to send the wrong message by giving you too much attention.
>>16914050
>2. Depends on how well you know each other.
We chat before class three times a week. Usually about video games, but we have also had some "get to know you" talk about our interests, hobbies, school stuff, etc. We don't have each other's numbers or anything and I wouldn't call us friends. I normally wouldn't even think about asking someone to my house before we've done anything else, but it just seems easy since I know it's an activity we will both enjoy even if everything else is awful.
I'm really at a loss these days as far as meeting people is concerned. I've never been on a date before but since graduating from University almost a year ago I find it nearly impossible to meet people my own age. I don't even think I've spoken to a new person in almost a year since I haven't been able to find a job and I don't have many reasons or opportunities to leave the house. School was that reason and now that I've lost that I don't have much left. I know the typical answers like coffee shops, parks book stores etc... but there really aren't any of those around me and I don't drive so I can't really go anywhere either (not that there would be many places to go even if I could).
I often tease my female friend and she teases me back, we have had this kind of relationship for almost a year, do girls find that normal usually or could that be a way to show romantic interest?
To the men interested in marriage:
5 years ago, what age did you think you'd be married by?
What age do you now hope to be married by?
What are some good icebreakers to start a conversation with complete strangers? I'm trying to get over my shyness when it comes to approaching people but I find its extremely difficult for me to do. I can hold a conversation without much issue but that first step is so difficult that I often don't even bother. Usually I'd rely on something I can observe about a common interest to stimulate discussion but such things aren't always apparent.
>>16914075
Five years ago I didn't have much of a marriage plan, but figured "I'd get around to it" in my early 30s. Now (still years away from that age) the "I'll get around to it" has become "if it happens to be on the table."
>>16914092
Hit submit too early, what I meant to wrap up saying is that I'm interested in the sense of finding married life attractive and all. I just don't see it as a thing to get done like putting up a shed.
>>16914075
I just turned 24.
At 19, I wanted to be married young. 22-25 ish.
Right now?
I "want" to get married asap. I'm moving soon and will start hitting up all the single ladies once I've found a new place of worship I fit in as a regular (I am religious and a virgin)
Is that realistic, healthy, and going to work out long term to show up, date someone for 6 months and propose? Of fuckign course not, I'm not stupid. That's what I want to do but that's not what I'm going to do.
Right now the goal realistically is "before 30", provided she's younger. My youngest brother was born when my mom was 34 and he's mentally retarded so I'm really sensitive to women getting pregnant past 30 and I want no part of it.
(I'm Muslim)
>>16914075
>25
>40
>>16914109
Wow why ?
>>16914075
35 has always been my go to number for marriage or children. I have 7 years.
Considering what has happened in the PAST 7 years of my life that seems to look likely.
>>16914075
>5 years ago, what age did you think you'd be married by?
30
>What age do you now hope to be married by?
Wish I was now
>>16914075
At 18 I was thinking I'd be married at 25.
I have a feeling I won't find anything like that until I'm nearing 30 nowadays if not later.
I've been losing a lot of interest in that stuff lately as the years go on.
>>16914115
I'm 27 now.
>>16914132
No but why 40 ?
>>16914075
35.
35.
That's if marriage happens at all. While I'd love to find a nice girl and marry her, I'm still putting other things first. Currently 25.
>>16914135
Should be enough time to get my passport, $500,000, give up on western women, and go find a mail order bride.
>>16913759
if people think stone wash jeans are dad jeans then you have no fashion sense whatsoever. its probably the most versatile jean after black jeans.Of course you're going to look like dad core if youre gonna tuck in a plain tee and wear new balances that only steve carell can get away with. It depends on the style but mostly fit. fit is everything
>>16914161
Found the defeatist
>>16914089
This article, especially the ARE part, really helped me learn how to talk to strangers after I was a NEET for a few years and had to build my social skills from ground zero.
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/08/22/how-to-make-small-talk/
>>16914166
He's dressed like a poor east European.
>>16914168
Haven't met any decent women in the last 4 years. Trying to be realistic.
>>16914168
The best women are the ones that are on their 50s. Young adults-adults are basically cheating cumbuckets.
Girls, please initiate things more often.
>>16914170
Thanks anon, I'll have a read through this and see if it helps. I'm going on 1 full year of unintentionally being a NEET after graduating from University and being unable to find a job. Any helpful advice at this point would be great.
>>16914188
I've been wanting to for so long to push my boyfriend up against the door as soon as he comes in, passionately make our with him, kiss his neck, get on my knees, unzip his pants and go down on him. I always get cold feet and feel like it's not the right moment. I think the perfect opportunity is coming soon though. Stuff like that?
>>16914211
Not the same guy and obviously I don't know your bf but as a guy, if I was your bf that would be amazing. Do it, I'm pretty sure he'll greatly appreciate it.
>>16914174
Try lowering your standards on physical appearance. 6.5-8/10 women generally have more depth and loyalty than 8.5-10/10 women because they haven't had as many doors opened for them (both physically and metaphorically) based on their attractiveness, which has forced them to develop character traits not dependent on their appearance. As an added bonus girls like this generally become more attractive once in a relationship because they feel they have to work to maintain and please their partner.
Ladies and if you can also speak for your girlfriends as well,
Do you see yourself being attracted to asians and be in a relationship?
I cant seem to get any girl interested in me. I got sucked and still believe in the whole self improvement meme but lately i cant stop thinking that the reason im not successful with women is due to my race.
Ive been playing the whole ticking the box game for about 3 years now:
>6'1
>Gym (1.5 years now with no more than 15 days skipped going 6 times sometimes 7 a week). No more dyel.
>according to 3 different rate threads im somewhere around 5-8
>hair similar to glenn TWD
>have hobbies - play in a coed soccer league, guitar and sing (havent sung to anyone tho lol just for myself usually)
>have friends - have gym buddy, have gsme friends, the boys are in whatsapp group chat for laughs
>not a virgin (but zero relationship/gf)
>finally can say im socially adjusted in society worked hard for this (social anxiety)
>basically a banana - moved when i was 9 am 25 now.
>lowered my standards - no overweight women tho cause that just wont work at all.
Here are my biggest things that i think hurting my chances:
>not charming enough (but i do think my social levels are good enough. I can and have made new friends)
>i still live at home. (I dropped out so im working to now move out.)
>money (was a student until now so was never ballin)
>my race - one thing i cant really change about. Luckily i have average sized penis.
Okay so i can understand that living at home at 25 is a no no for most if not all. So i can see them dropping me after they find this out but no girls show interest at all. I dont know what the fuck is wrong with me for real. Yea im pretty much dead inside but i know being a sad doesnt help and keep that to myself and my closest bros.
Is it really my race? I cant stand this shit.
Im getting really lonely.
Pic related. Is me when i cut the sides by myself
>>16914236
Haven't bothered reading your novel but to answer
>Do you see yourself being attracted to asians and be in a relationship?
If we like the guy, sure.
>>16914242
Please take your time because i honestly think my personality is quite something (in a positve way) but your reply just dewtroys what i think how my personality is ;-;
>>16914250
Your question is about race. I answered your question.
>>16913985
>never had jealousy issues before you
Well that's really strang-
>female friends
Oooohhhh
>>16914236
How big is your penis ?
>>16914254
Not even if i share a cute pupper pic?
>>16914236
Most of my friends are Asian and they prefer Asian guys to any others
>>16914258
You got an answer already.
>>16914257
Uh just under 6 usually
Why do you ask
>>16914236
You sound too thirsty. In your mind you have made relationships formulaic, when they're not.
You don't just fill out all the check boxes and get a girlfriend. It sounds like you just might not be very charming or romantic, which is likely a product of this attitude.
Try focusing less on projected fears about your race and more on the what the girls you are interested in feel and think, and what they actually want out of a relationship. Just my 2 cents I'm not a woman.
>>16914260
Yea usually FOB asian women tend to really like me but i just cant connnect wumith them (language and cultularally) and most westernized asian girls in my experience prefer white dudes.
>>16914264
Yea not gonna lie i am becoming more and more desperate. My older bro is getting married im halfway to 25 and no gfs ever. Im scared and the reality of being lonely forever is a possibility now
>>16914229
I've only been looking in the 3-6 range. No fatties and no kids being hard limits has me cornered.
>>16914264
Fuck i meant 5 yrs left till im 30**
But girls really, is penis size one of the factor to why you never dated an asian man ?
>>16914293
Probably not but its probably not good it its really small. >>16914293
>>16914293
You can't really date an Asian man, can't you? If your genitals are so underdeveloped, you aren't a man, are you? You're a boy. So that's why girls don't date Asian men. Because there are no Asian men.
>>16914306
Well let me tell you something, there are plenty white male that has <4inch penis too. And i really hope you're not a grill
>>16914305
>really small
You know that it's a very rare condition even to asian men, right ? I assume less than 4 is impossible for you ?
>>16914312
First of all, learn to speak English, second of all I am a George Foreman's Grill.
>>16914315
Okay you're not. Phew almost lose my self esteem there haha
>>16914313
Im no grill im the guy who just wrote a novel
>>16914317
That was a joke mate. You wrote grill so I said I was one. I actually am a girl and I think <6inches guys are not men but boys.
>>16914321
Haha it's either you're toying with my complexes or you're a guy.
>>16914170
Holy shit did that initial description fit me to a T. Hope they know their advice as well as they know their target audience.
>>16914070
Can i get a reply, please ?
What say?
>>16914326
I'm being real with you mate. If you only ate a single apple every day, you wouldn't call that a healthy diet, would you? That's what small dicks are, just not enough to satisfy a woman.
Try maybe being a twink instead? I'm sure many guys would love to ravage your boypussy.
Real talk tho, small dicks are okay, some girls are not into penetrative sex at all and sex isn't just about putting your penoo into a vagoo. You will be fine. How big is your penis?
>>16914329
How old are the both of you and define "teasing"?
>>16913566
previous experiences, the media, my peers. Most would say their parents, but my parents didn't really have much of a passionate/romantic relationship
>>16913711
the general concept of wearing sweatpants/athletic clothing/yoga pants when you're not exercising. it's just sloppy
>>16914339
"That's good to know cause I definitely smile more often when I talk to you"
>>16914346
Yes but the g spot is less than 4 inches in. I'm 4.5". And no, i'm embracing that traditional masculinity thingy so it would be very pathetic for me. Like, no, that would be very inferior
>>16914339
Ay gurl, u want sum dik.
But seriously, thank her for the compliment and try to smoothly shoot one back, or failing to come up with one say that it means a lot coming from her.
Take into account I'm a total sperg before taking my advice.
>>16914353
If only there were toys that you could use in the bedroom to hit that g-spot. Besides, if you really think going for the g-spot is the only way to please a woman sexually, you show a lack of sexual experience.
Educate yourself fool.
>>16914346
19, joking about eachothers clothes, behavior, and generally at the others expense. She'll pretend to be offended or annoyed by my comment, and then she will try to hit back etc.
>>16914348
You sure? That's cringey as fuck sounding to me. I was thinking more along the lines of "thanks. I like your eyes.
>>16914357
G spot, clit, foreplay. Don't ever mention cervix cus that's what a guy would say.
Girls, consider this situation and clarify me:
Got longer than I thought. Part 1/2:
There's a girl I had a crush for (and probably still like her too much). She wasn't interested. She even told me there's only feelings as a friend, but on a day where I tried to act as a regular friend and tried to accept her decision.
Well, some things with common friends changed, I cut the friendship to the others in the circle and because of that I didn't saw her for a long time (also because at the time where I wanted to date her, a meet up with only us two hasn't worked).
3 months later I saw her again at my birthday. We had fun, a "seriously" talk about some fact in the past but very shortly and not more than 5 minutes. A month later (around Christmas) I and some friends have this ritual to meet up and drink together around Christmas. This time she was part of it, we had fun again and at the end of the day it was only me and her. We drank, walked around, talked about funny and also sort of seriously topics. We didn't talked about the relation to each other but more about other topics. She brought up a topic about a guy she was interested in and that it was difficult for her to interact with him, because he acts kind of like an ass (denied to meet her if she has time, she has to make time for him regardless what plans she has or that he acts bad and is kind of ignorings her for example). This was too much for me, it hurted me to see how much she can care for another person and meanwhile knowing how I felt in some situation with her). I think she noticed that there was something strange and that I acted somehow different. I couldn't change what has been said and how she or I felt, so I thought make the best of it, she's a friend and try your best to overcome it and act friendly. A hour later we said goodbye and texted a few messages and that's it.
>>16914360
>thanks. I like your eyes.
I'm no expert, but suddenly changing the area of focus like that seems pretty cringey to me. It ruins the flow of the conversation. That kind of thing would be possible to pull off, but there would need to be some kind of transition.
>>16914368
Part2/2:
Almost a year went through and I didn't hear or didn't write to her (she said at my birthday that she hates to write/text me) and had no other contact. I thought it was fine, she could contact me or a friend, if she is interested in seeing me/us again. But because there was nothing like that I assumed she wasn't interested and I thought she must be fine if she doesn't contact.
Well, (for me) out of nowhere she asked a friend if we meet up again and so we did. When we meet we had one situation in which we on our own. We talked a little about the current location and vague about the past and then she said this sentence:
>"...we didn't see each others for a long time."
It confused me and I was an idiot to not ask her what the fuck she was trying to tell me, because I thought asking this might make the situation bad.
And now here I am, asking myself what this all means. What should I do or think of this? Am I missing something important or over-thinking it? How should I act on this or accept this?
Then another part of me thinks, I shouldn't text her to clarify things, because she is annoyed of me or/and this topic. Furthermore she could text me (or friends) if she wants to interact with me/us.
So how should I proceed on this? It's been three months and I still asking myself. What would be a good behaviour in this situation and what would be a mature way to handle this?
>>16914359
Escalate sexually and she if she does the same. If not, she probably just sees you as a banter friend.
>>16914360
That's what I would say and to me your message sounds cringy so I guess it's a matter of opinions here mate.
>>16914364
Google erogenous zones and come back to us.
>>16914369
>>16914372
Really? Christ no wonder I've had bad luck with girls.
So I really should say "I'm always smiling when talking with you"? Cause I feel like I might as well buy a fedora.
>>16914376
Not like that, more banter-y and kinda humorous. Something like "Thank God then cause I'm smiling a lot more when I'm talking to you" as in focusing more on the fact that you're happy that your smile is good because you're in a position where she makes you smile a lot instead of focusing on the fact that she makes you smile a lot.
Tricky question:
When i was 12, i lost my virginity in a very bad way. After that one incident, i wasn't sexually active till i was 14 and had a long term bf. I know that it's technically a lie, but i felt that the first time i had sex with my bf at 14 was more "me loosing my virginity". How bad is it if i skip that shit at 12 and just go with the second story when asked how i lost my virginity? I know i should be honest, but that is such a very very shitty story, there are only 2 people in this world that know about it and one of them is paid to keep it secret (my therapist...). I hate it and i honestly would like to erase it from my memory...
>>16914376
I'm a dude and maybe not the best to ask.
I would use some other words but it's not bad to let the girl/woman know, that you like her, that you like to talk to her and that she makes your setting more happy.
Even better: Tell her in person and if she likes you already a bit, then it will make her heart melt.
In general: It's not really about the word you choose (try to be easy, simple words, act comfortable around her and make her a comfortable situation). It's more about how you make her feel.
Make her feel wanted, comfortable in the situation. Let her know that you are interested in her body and her mind and that you feel empathy towards her. Like with an old good friend.
>>16914255
More like colleagues than friends honestly. They are all in the same field as I am thats... a bit cliquey. If you're good, you kinda get initiated. But they live all around the world, always traveling (like me)
It's not like I would even be able to have a romantic relationship with any of them.
>>16914379
To not so close friends: Totally okay.
To your bf? Well, take time till you are okay to tell him, if it bothers you. But if you choose to keep it as a secret, then don't let it control your actions. If this fact it making problems or is somehow controlling some of your actions, then I would be totally I okay to discuss a problem with my gf. I mean, why not? There is something which bothers her and which might affect out relationship. So why not working together to overcome it?
>>16914390
Thanks for the answer anon. That's how i handled it till now. I'll keep it that way then.
>>16914390
Actually, I still have a question. What if the question comes up in a relationship and i'm not ready to tell the whole story yet?
>>16914379
>losing your virginity at 12/14
I would avoid you either way slut
>>16914424
Fair enough. To each their own
>>16914424
That's just dumb and it seems you find happiness at bulling other people.
>>16914417
Well, how would you like to handle this if you were on the other side?
I can only tell for myself: If there comes up the question then I might be asking because I recognized that there is "something". Maybe I would have recognized it bothers her or is making things "strange" or "difficult". I would like to offer to listen to her and being there.
If your bf seems to be open to listen and helping you and if you like that he offers this, then tell him this. Then make the next step: Are you able and/or open to tell about it? If yes, then explain what happened, how it makes you feel and what problems you have. Try to let him understand what is in your mind.
If you're not able to talk about it, then let him know this. The actual word you have to find, but maybe something like "there is a problem and currently I'm not comfortable to talk about it". Maybe tell him if he can wait till you're able to talk about this "difficult" topic. But again: I think it's important to let him know, what is currently up with you (your feelings, thoughts, problems and what you want to do to solve them). Make it clear that the reason is not him or his behavior, that he is totally fine for you and that you need time to make your mind a bit clearer.
>>16914379
>When i was 12, i lost my virginity
How?
Self esteem lowered again.
>>16914476
Honestly: Does it help you to suffer and think about this? Focus on positive topics of your life and/or make positive things in your life.
>>16914476
>in a very bad way
Sounds like you don't really wanna know homie. Saying you lost your v-card that young and following it with "in a very bad way" usually means one thing.
guy here and i want advice on a particular subject
how do i stop seeing women as something i can stick my weewee into? i don't give a fuck about them unless i happen to like their personality
I've had a crush on Girl 1 for some time. We've hung out alone a few times, and I was planning to ask her out next time we met. But it's been nearly a month now and she's always busy or something comes up.
I don't think she's lying at all, but it makes me feel like I'm not a priority (which, as her friend, I totally understand). I guess it's making me wonder if that would change if we were dating, though.
Girl 2 contacted me out of nowhere, and dropped hints that she wanted to go to an event with me. I invited her and she accepted immediately.
She may have no romantic interest at all, but as a guy who has never had any female attention I figure I might have a shot.
So...stick to my plan and try to get together with 1 if I ever see her, or see what's up with 2?
>>16914491
Stick your weewee into enough of them. Especially ugly ones.
>>16914491
Do you mean you don't interact with women you don't want to fuck?
Or you want to stop wanting to fuck every woman you meet?
How do I get a girl I just met to like me?
>>16914507
Talk to her. If she is going to like you, it will be through you getting to know each other.
>>16914500
>>16914500
option b applies the most to me
also why do i keep getting connection errors holy shit i just want to ask some random person over the internet life advice
>>16914517
Disable adblocker anon.
>>16914521
thank you for your sagely advice
i also have a question to pose to you o great /adv/ guru
do women get put-off by guys being unable to drive? i suffer from mental illness and anxiety from driving which is why i don't
>>16914507
poop in your hand and throw it at her
>>16914533
>put off by not being able to drive
Shit. I do that by choice. Is it a big thing?
>>16914533
Depends on where you live.
If we lived in a big city and you didn't need a car, no. If I had to pick you up every date, yes, it'd be a turnoff.
>>16914533
>>16914539
Move to the city where nobody drives.
>>16913258
Grills do you think about your first boyfriend and if so what about him?
>>16914545
I think of him pretty often. I think about him as a person, the things we used to do together, etc. Happy memories, mostly. Never thought of sex after we broke up.
>>16914541
Fucking whore. Bet it's okay for a guy to pick you up for every date, huh? Do you go on dates for free rides you fucking slut?
girls and boys: what do you think of PUA? I tried to read a couple of books, I'm not saying that I became a cunt destroyer but surely it improved my situation and now I feel less anxious and more confident. Someone told me that some of the techniques that they suggested are used by couch psychologists to help people with anxiety and social ineptitude.
>>16913258
Guys do you think about your first girlfriend and is so what about her?
>>16914541
>>16914542
What if the town is 90k pop and so small it's actually faster (or negligible difference) to just ride my bike everywhere. In many cases faster due to traffic.
So you don't have to pick me up its just a fact of how I transport.
>having to pick you up every time is a turnoff
Why? It wouldn't even bother me unless it's like 30+ minutes extra wasted in transit. And even then it's probably just about the drive when I'm alone.
>>16914549
For free rides and free meals!
>>16914552
regret
before i broke up with her, she had told me that about 6 monthes ago, she had figured out that she had fallen out of love with me and didn't want to tell me because she lacked the courage until i pried and found out and this hit me hard
like i had no idea how i had fucked up during those past 6 months. after that reveal, we decided to go on break. after not talking to her for a few weeks, i decided to just break it off with her. i wouldn't be happy if i had stayed.
>>16914550
Dude here. PUAs disgust me, but I'm a romantic wizard so it isn't like my opinion counts.
>>16914550
Guy:
I think the PUA attitude is problematic.
>waah they don't respect women. Look at them as sex objects
No. That's perfectly fine when that's your goal. The problem is that it generally promotes deception. PUA is mainly about getting laid without care for honestly. If you could say up front 'I just want sex' then have them push a button that says they're ok with that or not and everything just carries on that'd be great. Would eliminate all the issues.
If you're using PUA (as a whole, there's good techniques this doesn't apply to) to date then that's probably more problematic in many ways because you're starting the relationship with an untrue personality in ways.
Generally ok. If a girl really just wants a relationship then she can say so and your moral judgement is there to help you do the right/wrong thing.
>>16914556
Hope you fucking die of AIDS you cunt. Whores like you give a bad rep to women. You wanna be treated like a princess? Fuck off to Saudi Arabia and find yourself a sheikh bf. In civilized word we expect you to step out of your gender roles.
Please never procreate.
>>16914553
>Why?
I had a boyfriend who didn't drive and lived with his parents. When we started to spend time together at home, I had to get ready, go out, pick him up, drive back, spend time with him, go out, drop him home, drive back. After a while it became so annoying.
If we had to go out on dates it was pretty much fine, it took me around 20 more minutes to pick him up and drop him at home before and after every date.
Never again.
>>16914568
>I had to get ready, go out, pick him up, drive back, spend time with him, go out, drop him home, drive back. After a while it became so annoying.
>I have to do work to be in a relationship
Now you know how guys feel so maybe recognize your privilege there.
>>16914574
Why can't couples keep a balanced relationship like I do? Some girls didn't like this attitude, others were ok, I mean stuff like: I pay you the lunch, you pay me the dinner,
I'll buy you a cocktail, you buy me another one later
or simply just split the bill
>>16914584
I guess she just wants the guy to do all the work. There are dudes desperate for pussy enough to do all this slave-like shit around a girl.
>>16914584
>>16914568
I see how that could start to annoy you. But that'd take a fair while to get me annoyed.
>>16914574
I never asked any of the guys I dated to drive me around, pay something for me or whatever, and I don't want to drive them around and pay their food.
Whenever I go on a date, I drive myself there and I pay my half unless the guy explicitly asks me to pick me up or pay for me.
I am an adult, I have a car, a job and I can look after myself, I expect the guy to do the same.
>>16914593
>the ability to drive means you're an adult
16 year olds are able to drive and they're not someone who I'd call an adult. What about all the people that can't drive because of medical reasons? Are they not adults?
>>16914593
>privilege
What's usually meant by this is that you can do that. Not that you're using it. You find that use mainly among civil rights groups.
But yeah your rational stance is correct if you value social equality obviously.
>>16914598
She never said that. You've inferred it incorrectly. It's the ability to take care of yourself that I think she was implying is the most important.
And yeah, relying on other people for transportation means you can't take care of yourself.
>>16914598
No? You're an adult if you can look after yourself. If you're not able to move around without someone driving for you, but you wouldn't do anything to fix the problem, yes, you're fairly immature.
If you live in a place with good public transport, walk everywhere you need to be or go around by bike, no problem. If you have someone driving you anywhere, there's a problm.
>>16914603
>>16914605
So if you depend on others for transportation, does that mean you're worse person? I guess all the blind people are not as good as you, what a bunch of losers they are for not being able "look after themselves".
>>16914609
Most blind people I know move around by bus or have dogs that help them move by feet. They highly value their independence.
Also, straw man argument.
>>16914609
No, she's clearly talking about able bodied people. That's why in both of your responses you've referenced disabilities: you obviously know what she means, dude.
>>16914605
well unfortunately i can't make my mental illness just go away
guess that makes me too immature
>>16914615
How many of them drive cars tho?
>>16914616
I'm just pointing out that holier-than-thou attitude she has. What if the person can't drive because of anxiety? Oh, let me guess, anxiety isn't a real thing or you just have to go to therapy and it will go away.
Don't go all "i can take care of myself so you should to" if you don't know someone's life situation.
>>16914619
I mean, if she can take care of herself, so should you. We all live the same life after all.
>>16913258
Should I even try Tinder or similar services when I'm not a chad? Women, do you use those kinds of services and would you at least start a conversation with someone even if they're not exactly hot?
>>16914620
The question she was fucking answering was about how girls feel about guys who can't drive, man!
This is a general question, she gave a general answer.
>>16914620
Different anon, but there's a difference between not driving and not being able to transport yourself. She did clearly state that she doesn't want to have to pick him up for every date.
Let's be honest though, you're only throwing a tantrum because you're talking to a femanon.
>>16914632
Quite confident that I'm not all that attractive but there's tons of women I'm sure you could get along with on tinder. I do. I'm not Chad.
>>16914619
Not necessarily.
If we were dating and you could go anywhere we wanted to meet by bike, public transport or whatever, I wouldn't mind. I would pick you up if the weather was bad, or if it was really uncomfortable for you to get somewhere, but I would appreciate the fact that you're mostly independent. If you expected me to drive you around, I would think you're pretty immature, yes.
>>16914620
The vast majority of people CAN take care of themselves, just don't want to.
I don't expect a disabled person to be completely independent, of course, but I expect everyone to help themselves before asking people to help them. This doesn't mean that everyone has to be completely independent, but being disabled, having anxiety or whatever isn't a justification to not try your very best to take care of yourself, even if with some limits.
>>16914636
The thing about general answers is that you come off super insensitive to real life situations. Generally you should be able to have good credit and pay your rent on time but life has twists and turns.
>>16914639
>there's a difference between not driving and not being able to transport yourself
Yes and the scenario we're discussing is "living in a situation where you need to drive but can't". The so-called "not being able to transport yourself" is not always the person's fault and she shouldn't act like she's better than that person.
>Let's be honest though, you're only throwing a tantrum because you're talking to a femanon.
Oh my, you really went there. Okay, so what you're saying is that I shouldn't hold her dumb opinion to the same standards of judgement as I would the opinions of a maleanon? That's condescending bro, she said a dumb thing and it's sexist to protect her from criticism like she can't handle it. She can, as she previously stated
>I am an adult, I have a car, a job and I can look after myself
>>16914655
>comes off as insensitive
Sounds more like an interpretation issue rather than the way it's expressed.
>>16914649
>I don't expect a disabled person to be completely independent, of course, but I expect everyone to help themselves before asking people to help them. This doesn't mean that everyone has to be completely independent, but being disabled, having anxiety or whatever isn't a justification to not try your very best to take care of yourself, even if with some limits.
What does that mean? You should try to be as independent as you possibly can? Well let's ring up the Noble price committee cause you just made the discovery of the century. Fucking duh, dummy. The point still stands, what if despite your best efforts to be as independent as you can, you still don't drive even if you have to? Is that person still worse than you and immature? If you can, get off your high horse to answer that question because we can't hear you all the way up from there.
>>16914659
>black people generally shouldn't do any criminal activity and focus on education
See? Insensitive.
>>16914645
And what about scams and weird shit like that? I'm not really sure if those apps are trustworthy.
>>16914645
>>16914670
Nevermind, you need a Facebook profile for Tinder so that's out of the question. But I suppose it applies to all similar services out there as well.
To be honest I expected a response from the driver anon. What's wrong? Too busy trying to come up with yet another incoherent argument?
>>16914691
I haven't followed your conversation but you come across as incredibly immature and a complete minge by posting stuff like that.
>>16914695
When you argue with the "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" people you have to lower yourself to their level so excuse me for sounding immature. If I were talking with adults, I'd behave like one.
>>16914666
I start thinking you're legitimately retarded at this point, or trolling. Your strive for extreme political correctness is pretty ridiculous in general, but on 4chan is insane.
I never, ever said that someone who can't drive is worse than me.
I said that someone who completely relies on other for moving around when there are other ways for him to do so (as my ex boyfriend did) is immature.
And no, if someone has really no other way to move around, I wouldn't think he's immature if he asked for help. But that case is extremely unlikely.
If you want to pick another "extremely unlikely case" like the guy with anxiety who lives in the middle of nowhere and can't use public transport or a bike to prove me wrong, go on. I can suggest people who were born with no arms and no legs, who are stuck in a vegetative coma, or with brain damages.
>>16914702
As I said, I didn't even follow the conversation, but no matter what happened that doesn't seem like a decent response. Not responding and letting things rest is always an option, and sometimes the correct one. To set an example I'll let this conversation rest, I've said what I wanted to say and made my point.
>>16914706
>I can suggest people who were born with no arms and no legs, who are stuck in a vegetative coma, or with brain damages.
No need to put yourself into the argument. Also your response took a while? What happened? Also with that time is that post really the best thing you could have came up with?
>Your strive for extreme political correctness is pretty ridiculous in general, but on 4chan is insane.
>cue crawling in my skin
Yes, what a cunt thing to do to make you think and care about other people before you say something. This "PC is bad" crowd is fucking dumb. It's not perfect but it's way better than not caring at all.
>I never, ever said that someone who can't drive is worse than me.
You did and now you're backpedaling. Your original post had such a holier-than-thou vibe but once I pointed out to you that not everyone is as fortunate in life as you, you act like you meant a completely different thing.
>>16914706
>>16914710
Guys, just stop responding.
Maybe take a crack at >>16914493, eh?
>>16914719
Lol, thanks for telling people not to respond to my posts.
As to your original post, seems like Girl 1 is not interested in you and Girl 2 is. Only time will tell if she has romantic interest in you so go on that date with her instead of waiting for Girl 1 to give you the time of the day.
I was flirting with a girl over text. We ended up talking about sex(her favorite position/her fantasys and other stuff like how big i am). She has a boyfriend, and i assured her that this wont lead to anything while shes still dating someone. But she said that it was inappropriate to talk about that kind of stuff with me.
Questions: why would she do it in the first place if she didnt like doing it? And is there anything i can do to make it so theres a better chance she will break up with her boyfriend and be with me?
>>16914716
I am sorry if replying to people on 4chan isn't my main occupation, I have a class soon and I am getting ready.
Anyway, really, let's just stop, we're becoming ridiculous.
You keep being the most political correct person ever, I keep being an insensitive cunt, and we're both really happy this way.
Have a nice life.
>>16914725
Well, you said it so I guess I don't have to. And it's "the most politicalLY correct person ever". Good job on using that as an insult, really proves the point you made about yourself.
Have a nice life as well.
>>16914724
>why would she do it in the first place if she didnt like doing it?
Probably she liked doing it, but still knew it was inappropriate.
>And is there anything i can do to make it so theres a better chance she will break up with her boyfriend and be with me?
No. And I wouldn't suggest dating a person who flirts with you when she's dating someone else. You would never trust her and your relationship would be awful.
>>16914666
>see insensitive
Well you're the one presuming the political stance in that. It's simply true. It's true that if you eliminate the group front he sentence and focus it on an individual that doesn't allow that interpretation but in this case. Where anon was expressing that it's generally problematic in her dates then that's what she's expressing. It's like if someone just said 'I'd like some suggestions for what to tell black people to do to improve their situation.' And you say that. At worst you've recognized that those things are issues. There's nothing really racist about it. It's simply the best attempt at solving a situation.
So it's an interpretation issue when you can't express what you wanted simply because the person assumes.
And as a side note this is a big problem with how people perceive racism. You're not allowed to make claims like that. And you probably would face criticism from a lot of people even I the more specific situation I proposed. Doesn't make them right because you need to be able to express this stuff.
>>16914735
I agree that a person saying that claim shouldn't be called a racist. They should be called an idiot.
>It's simply the best attempt at solving a situation.
No it's not. It doesn't factor things like the fact a lot of "urban" youth come from pathological families, that the job opportunities are so spare and shitty, a life of crime is sometimes the best option or the fact that public schools in their areas are shitty af and you can't get good education there.
>>16914747
>it doesn't factor blah blah
Nobody knows what the best solution to any problem is. We're not omniscient. It's just the perception the example person had. I don't see why you dig into that. Perhaps should have made it clear that the person based their response on their perception but are we really gonna be that wordy?
>This post represents my opinions and to some extent is a product of being raised where I was raised. So it reflects the society I live in to some extent. Not all of the opinions presented must have been rationalized from very base principles and can be inherited from my environment. The choice of language is motivated by a desire to allow for the largest demographic on this site to read it well.
>>16914752
You don't really have to experience the struggles of someone's life to know about them. You can just like, you know, fucking think. If you argue that it's a good solution because of your perception then guess what, your perception is fucking stupid.
>>16914753
You're just a moron I guess. I'm not representing example person. We were arguing a hypothetical and you can't seem to separate a hypothetical persons opinion from whoever is explaining the hypothetical persons position. And it wasn't about that at all even. It was about how we communicate and where we think the responsibility of being a good interpreter kicks in.
I can understand your position much better now because you need everything to be far clearer than most people put it. I've been especially clear here, using a large amount of words to communicate very simple things just so I can know I'm being specific enough that there shouldn't be misunderstandings.
It was not enough. I'd really like to know how you read my posts because I don't think I've met someone with reading comprehension that's this bad. It must be a fascinating journey for you to read the back of the milk packets. Why are they advertising missing children? What a cruel thing to do. They should return them to their parents for free.
>>16914763
>muh poor reading comprehension
wow, good job on going for literally the easiest and laziest response on 4chan ever. The point still stands Operation Dumbo Dropped-On-The-Head-As-A-Kid. The fact that someone's claims are strongly tied to their perspective doesn't mean they're absolved for criticism and it's an interpretation issue on the listener's part. If you said something that is stupid, people should criticize you so that perspective gets expanded.
Oh, and Mr Reading Comprehension. You know how sometimes adults say stuff like "you shouldn't be ..." or "you should be ..."? They don't actually mean you specifically sometimes. There are times when they're talking about human beings generally or a hypothetical human being that you love to call upon so often.
>>16914765
I was really hoping that post would help you understand but you're clearly a hopeless case.
>>16914763
>>16914765
Thx for ruining this thread. Super good use of the Advice board.
>>16914769
I'd say "pot calling the kettle black" but I'm not the wall in this conversation. It's not a case of me not understanding you, it's a case of you being a wall in this conversation.
>>16914772
Awww, you want mommy to kiss where it hurts?
>>16914772
faggots will be faggots
>>16914772
No problem jamaa.
There's no value in posting space on 4chan.
It was constructive (if he'd read) until the last two rounds of replies.
>>16914779
>if he read
lmao kill yourself mate, you're a waste of oxygen
>>16914793
>kill yourself
Well this is /adv/ I guess..
>>16913566
We do, but not as much as women. Well, I can't speak for everyone, but I personally like reading scientific papers/studies. Which have made me cynical so I don't expect anything from women anymore, and I personally identify as MGTOW.
>>16914552
I think about her sometimes. I can't simply erase her because she's part of who I've become. Occasionally I might masturbate thinking about us having sex (and then feel bad about it since I don't even find her attractive anymore). I never think anything romantic about her though.
Losing the V-Card with knowledge how its done/theory, etc Vs. inexperience
Which is ultimately better?
25 year old Manly Man here who knows pretty much the know how about sex and foreplay and vaginas, labia minora and majora, clitoris, cervix, how vaginas lubricate, and obviously how my penis works, know what diseases/infections can be transmitted sexually, even the typical diseases of every day shit like Hep-C, have practiced putting on condoms, know what they are, and their 2% possibility to break, and shit like that.
Yes, I really really really do like vaginas this much, and I'm not a Gynecologist.
>Sex without foreplay
>ever
Oral is better.
>>16914823
With knowledge, as long as you don't lecture me on my labia minora and majora while you're eating me out.
>>16914823
I mean, even if you know the theory, you're still inexperienced. Also why so late? Religious reasons?
>>16914826
>as long as you don't lecture me on my labia minora and majora while you're eating me out.
OK
>>16914827
STD paranoia, even if inexperienced/virgin, a person can have STD even without realizing, also accidental pregnancy as an idiotic teenager, and of course, the right person is much comfortable, right now I've had a fuckton of personal issues to deal with so time wasn't money for me.
>>16914823
Theory without practice isn't much. It's one thing to read a cars operator manual, it's another to actually drive the car on public roads sort of thing. It's better than going in blind but you're still inexperienced.
>>16914830
>>16914830
you can still get stds from oral sex
also you sound autistic as fuck
>>16914826
>>16914827
>>16914831
Right, I should have typed knowledgeable, but inexperience instead.
Also one of the reasons to wait is because of my phimosis and my frenulum is tighter than usual, if it snaps, it bleeds, and could get infected, then necrotic, and then I would be fucked.
>>16914834
>also you sound autistic as fuck
Is it a problem?
Tfw /pol/ followed you here
>>16914493
I would go with #2 here. It's not like a date is the end of the world.
>>16914823
>knows about foreplay
You're all set then. Just remember to have fun, man. It's not THAT big of a deal.
>>16914823
>Oral is better.
And this is why real world experience is better than book smarts. If you ever actually performed oral sex on someone you'd know how disgusting/unpleasant it is.
Literally the only reason we do it is because (some) of our girlfriends enjoy it and we wanna make them happy.
>>16914839
>It's not THAT big of a deal.
Thank fuck I don't have a long penis. Just imagine if it bent too much or some shit.
Male:
>>16913566
>Guys: where do you get your ideas about what relationships are.
Watching my parents for the idea of what marriage is like. Watching peers relationships with girls/boys to see what's normal there. I have seen romantic comedies but I consider them ridiculously unrealistic. Any media depiction of relationships seem just ridiculous really. They don't act like sane individuals and you'd rather not be with people like that.
But mainly I imagine what it'd be like. What do I want in a relationship. Do I want a servant? No. Sex slave? No. Go down that list and start approaching the more reasonable stuff and eventually you end up with a person that you're fully dedicated to. Your life revolves around them and your interactions. Where you have sex for both of your enjoyment because you want to see eachother happy. A good friend (BFF might be what girls say) you screw with and never want to leave. Other relationships are just that but to a lesser degree.
>>16913711
>what opposite gender fashion/clothing items do you not like?
Joga pants, ripped jeans, jewelry, piercings and that type of thing, heels, in general apparel really. I do like chokers to some degree but that'd have to be really temporary. I can get over most thing but I dislike most things. Ideally everyone would wear t-shirts/blouse hoodies (no zipper, unless you have a blouse, either is fine then) and skirts or rather plain pants. Camo pants are fine if you want to express your individuality.
>boring
Perhaps. But I'm thinking about how I'd like my gf to be. Not what society should be like. It's harder to get interested in people when they're dressing all weird. My tastes are probably something I won't express to most girls because I think they're very specific about what's good looking.
I don't like clutter is probably the best way to put it simply.
>>16914837
>Is it a problem?
No but in the real world try to hide your power level or people will be creeped out when you say shit like that. Best of luck.
>>16914837
But you got that phimosis fixed tho? Don't have sex if you still have it. It will be painful af and you can pulling it back by force can make the foreskin lock behind the head and cut the circulation of blood to it. Then you will have to go to ER unless you wanna lose your dickhead.
>>16914843
>If you ever actually performed oral sex on someone you'd know how disgusting/unpleasant it is.
>you'd know how disgusting/unpleasant it is
Your opinion has been noted, archived, and registered to the Archives of Human Speech.
>>16914851
>Don't have sex if you still have it.
Working on it. Health check up next month.
>>16914855
How far into treatment are you? At 25 it's pretty much only circumcision or operation left for you.
>>16913277
Are you me? Same age and everything. Idk man, sometimes I feel like this is the way it's supposed to be for me, but it's difficult to overcome human nature (desire for sex and offspring).
>>16914844
>tfw your dick is fucking huge and so woman likes it
>Just imagine if it bent too much
>tfw not even getting that far
>>16914837
>phimosis
Got a question.
I have to squeeze the head through the foreskin. It doesn't hurt at all and there's no risk of breaking. l but I'm still concerned because my penis head is so sensitive it's tough to even touch it in the shower. If a drop falls on it it's the kind of feeling you get when someone just fake punched you in the dick. You recoil.
I'm a virgin and I'm quite concerned if this will affect me or how it will work. I've tried masturbating using a tenga and foreskin pulled back (it usually goes back half way if I don't pull it back) and it works ok, it's hard to describe the feeling but it's some combination of REALLY intense stimulation, slight tickling and slight pain. Still prefer to do it with foreskin on half or fully on (no tickling or pain) but I'm not sure how I should go about this. Should I get more cream stretch it some more, masturbate with it off all the time and make myself desensitized. I'm not sure I could receive a blowjob successfully. But maybe it's just that someone else has to do it for me for it to be good.
I just don't know what this stuff should be like. Cutfags are tolerated but I'm not sure your experiences are gonna help.
>>16914874
Do you pull back when you pee? Is your foreskin pulled back very often?
>>16914075
never
as soon as possible
>>16914853
>disgusting/unpleasant
Fuck off virgin.
>>16914882
>do you pull it back when you pee
I generally don't pull back when I pee but I could start doing that. It's not that I have trouble doing that. I'm really lazy so I don't even stand. I just sit and let my lower half do whatever.
>do you pull it back very often
When I shower mainly (at least once a day). As I said I don't do it while masturbating and that's really the only other time I would normally do it.
>>16914894
nice projection
>>16914903
>I generally don't pull back when I pee
Bad move, one of the main causes why adult men get phimosis.
It's sensitive because it doesn't get a lot of contact with the outside world. Go to an urologist.
>>16914075
15-20 never (regardless of who)
21-23 when I get oneitis (and I know who that is)
Its not really about marriage though. It's about committing.
>>16914909
Ok i'l do that then. I've had it since I was a kid though. Thanks
>>16914229
>Try lowering your standards on physical appearance.
This is seriously the worst advice. How are you even supposed to suddenly decide to find women attractive when you don't? In a physical relationship, physical attraction is everything, and when you try to have one without it, it'll go down in flames. Don't follow this advice, it's the highway to a dead married sex life and (at BEST) fucking sluts behind your wife's back.
>>16914929
"Fucking ugly cunts without self-esteem is the best. They will do anything, if you're a BDSM freak like me know that these nappy headed hoes will do anything to please you. These bitches will be screaming in pain but won't tell you to stop. You can live out your rape fantasy everyday."
- Thomas Jefferson
