>31, Male
I can't do this hookup thing. I just can't. Tinder, Grindr, whatever. It disgusts me.
I feel like a dinosaur in the social age. I can be personable, social, even entertaining in a social setting. But this flippant warp-speed social bullshit is just beyond me. It feels vapid and worthless - a litany of meaningless interaction that amounts to nothing but wasted time and effort.
"Relationships" have been debased to the point of near worthlessness, reduced to their most simple elements and lacking in anything resembling meaningful content. Subsequently they also lack anything resembling value.
I was born in the wrong era. I'd have probably done better being born 20 or 30 years earlier before all of this.
The internet's ruined sexual attraction for me. With a lifetime of porn and the debasement of relationships, there's just nothing left. No physical attraction for a fling. No traditional attraction through a relationship. There's just nothing anymore. I'm just a dinosaur that happened to live into the ice age, just waiting to go extinct now. Unable to adapt and evolve to this new environment.
>>16897348
32 here. Also just kind of waiting to die out. We grew up before the internet, hell before having a personal computer in your home was common (I happened to have several but only because my father was a computer programmer).
This is the same reason that I can't play most video games anymore. My little brothers will play the latest game online with friends, (Star Wars Battlefront for PS4) and I just don't fucking get it. Nobody really interacts, just a bunch of vapid worthless interactions with annoying people.
Whatever happened to LAN parties and getting 4 x-boxes, 4 TV's, a router and a lot of beer and pot, so we could all hang out and have a great time playing Halo? Heck when I was in high school we used to do the 4 way split screen Goldeneye for N64 and make a night of it. I met my first girlfriend at a Goldeneye party.
These kids don't know what they are missing.
>>16897348
... and GET OFF MY LAWN!
>>16897399
>We grew up before the internet
This, maybe the most important fact of the whole thing. People our age - our formative years were the among the very last of the generations to grow up in a pre-internet civilization. We remember what real interaction is...or was. For the most part that kind of stuff doesn't exist anymore.
Some of us have certainly adapted. I haven't. I can't find value in Facebook, Twitter, Tinder, whatever....
Step into real life and everyone's buried in their phones - innundated in everyone and everything except the people and world around them.
It disgusts me.
It's not vapidness driving the current social climate, it's hedonism. And hedonism has always been a cornerstone of humanity.
Now, tools for instantaneous global communication have brought terrifying efficiencies to people's deepest desires. But people in the 50s were no less averse to being superficial and vapid.
>>16897418
Fast forward 25 years from now and my kid will be on VRChan/adv/ with his Occulus Rift 8.0 telling all the "kids" about he was the last generation to grow up without a fully immersive virtual reality.
All these kids totally immersed in their VR headsets virtually face fucking vintage porn stars like Sasha Grey, not knowing what it is like to actually message people on social media so they can meet up later.
>>16897449
I sort of feel like the world can turn unexpectedly and in a period of only a few years, people put away their fucking phones because they are so sick of it.
Like how if you said Microsoft would fall apart as a company and that people were going to buy devices with tiny screens instead of a desktop then 20 years ago I would have laughed my ass at you.
>>16897418
I'm 29, don't have Facebook and know you're being a whiny bitch about nothing.
I started my first and last relationship back when online dating was for the socially inept, and now that I've broken up, I have to catch up with a world that has evolved a lot.
I still don't know how to effectively use the current tools available to me and I'm constantly feeling like I'm doing something wrong on these dating apps. I'm sure with time I'll be able to adapt, I'm still really young, but it is quite a shock to have to relearn how to do social interactions.
>>16897348
You should consider doing something not using a computer if you hate them so much. Oh wait, that's just a dumb excuse and you know it.
>>16897348
>But this flippant warp-speed social bullshit is just beyond me. It feels vapid and worthless - a litany of meaningless interaction that amounts to nothing but wasted time and effort.
You know, it is possible not to want to participate in something and not have to insult and belittle every other person who decides to.
>"Relationships" have been debased to the point of near worthlessness, reduced to their most simple elements and lacking in anything resembling meaningful content.
I'm not sure from what context you're basing this information but the state of "relationships" is pretty much the same.
Sure, the internet has made "hook up" culture more accessible but what do you think "make out points" and drive-ins were used for in the 50's? What speakeasies and jazz clubs were in the 30's and 40's? Places where young people came to hook up and make poor sexual decisions. It was less socially acceptable back then, and unspoken of, but it still happened.
Its literally the same thing we're doing now with a low tech spin to it.
I'm not sure where all of your disgust and resentment comes from but trying to paint the picture like you're too good for this whole "dating scene" is just a bunch of trumped up self important bullshit.
No one told you you have to no-strings-attached sexual flings. People still date. People still make genuine connections. Jump down off of your high horse and join the rest of us who don't feel the need to use weak "I'm smarter than everyone boo-hoo poor me" excuses for why we have a hard time establishing meaningful relationships.
>>16897502
95% of the women on dating or hookup apps are serial repeaters. They are literally going to ignore and be rude to every single person until a 11/10 guy with a 9" vibrating cock texts them "sup?"
Or they are psychotic and can't keep a boyfriend longer than a week.
It is less about social interaction and all a game of casting a wide fucking net and quickly summing up every girl that does interact with you and moving on if you don't like what you see.
>>16897527
>95% of the women on dating or hookup apps are serial repeaters. They are literally going to ignore and be rude to every single person until a 11/10 guy with a 9" vibrating cock texts them "sup?"
So basically 95% of women you meet don't want to come within 10 feet of your shitty, entitled attitude and you extrapolate that into vast generalization of a figure?
Again, I'm not sure where you're getting you're numbers but you're 100% wrong. Your inability to maintain relationships with funny, honest, intelligent women is not a reflection on women or hook up culture, its a reflection on you.
>>16897540
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>>16897527
It is basically Capitalism. Online dating is a race to the fucking bottom. If you want to play the game, you have to go as fast as the "warp speeders", as vapid and pointless as the most shallow of men, as annoying and broad with your messaging as the most desperate neck beard virgin, and as shameless as the most cold sociopath in the pool.
If you won't do that or are unwilling, then you just don't want a hookup as much as you want to retain your dignity.
>>16897540
I am not OP. Just saying that I am an attractive man. I hooked up with girls in college all the time, but fucking Tindr... jesus christ... If I say more than two words she moves on.
How can you sum up the value of somebody in 5 seconds? I can buy a drink for a girl and talk to her for 5 minutes and she will probably get a good feel about me. I can't figure out how to get a girl to talk to me on Tindr.
So I don't have the secret sauce apparently.
>>16897552
I'm really not connecting the dots here.
Online dating is no different than real life. Its real life people. If your goal is to attract floozies and shitheads then ACT like a floozie and a shithead.
These people exist off of the internet, and they existed before online dating ever did.
I've had a lot of great experiences online dating, because guess what... I DIDNT ACT LIKE A SHITHEAD. I took my time, waited until I was comfortable with whoever I was talking to and then met up with them. Sure, I had to sift through some psychos and weirdos but I would've had to do that in real life anyways.
I've been with my current girlfriend who I met on OkCupid for almost 3 years. Hasn't carved my name into her forehead or cheated on me with 5 guys off of craigslist yet so I'm a bit confused as to your perspective.
You can keep painting online dating as a cesspool but what you don't realize is that the whole entire world is a fucking cesspool, its not exclusive to the internet. The only variable is from what end of the pond you decide to fish.
If you're a stupid asshole you end up with stupid assholes. Again, the women you attract is a reflection on you, not a reflection on women. The sooner you accept that the sooner you'll be able to start fishing through the human garbage more efficiently.
>>16897582
>How can you sum up the value of somebody in 5 seconds?
Assuming that some girl you've met in public hasn't looked at you and decided she didn't want to talk to you in 5 seconds or less.
Tinder streamlined the process, yes, but the process isn't new. Sometimes you don't get the opportunity to get to know someone before they decide they don't want to get to know you.
Tinder hasn't helped that, but I don't think its hurt it either. Its all about how you approach it. Plus, its fair to say that any girl browsing through Tinder isn't particularly interested in developing a deep connection with you.
Like I said, its not about the cesspool, its about how deep you're willing to fish. Skim the surface and you'll get nothing but pond scum.
