I've been thinking about it off and on for a while now, came really close to doing it last December but held off on it.
I feel like I've worked so hard for so long that I deserve sex at this point, it's all I want, and I've sacrificed literally everything for it, so if after 6 more months of work and it still hasn't happened, should I just let go and do it?
>>17299951
>I feel like I've worked so hard for so long that I deserve sex at this point
What do you mean by this? Do you have a gf?
>>17300164
>>17300164
No, what I mean is that I deserve to have things just go right for me already, to have things fall into place in the coming months
If I do literally everything that normal average people do to the T then I objectively should be getting laid
>>17299951
Does this pic meant to be Pepe?
>>17300180
>deserve to have things just go right for me
You don't deserve anything.
You are the only thing stopping you from having sex.
If you want it, make it happen.
>>17300226
your missing the point of the thread
>>17300180
you mostly deserve a slow death for being proud of that, this also why your life is shit
it won't be better after you get over your pointless quest, just slightly less shit
>>17300180
Are you literally proud of doing what everybody else is doing?
>>17300290
what are you even on about?
I look better, feel better, I'm stronger, and I'm not an aspie spazz anymore
Isnt all of that good?
>>17300296
Im not proud of it but I dont feel bad either, its just a means to an end
>>17300305
>I look better, feel better, I'm stronger, and I'm not an aspie spazz anymore
Obviously you are, since you think that because you look better means that you are somehow entitled to having sex...
You fell for the /fit/ meme, OP. I'm a fat fuck that look like shit, but I'm funny and have charisma and that means I get to fuck. You should try the same.
>>17300312
>normies are starting to actually like me now
>I am getting occasionally low level mired by girls
>Im still chris chan because I feel like I morally deserve sex
Thats not how this works
>funny and charisma
If I combined funny, charisma, lack of fat, presence of muscle, good clothes, good hair, and an understanding of normie music all into one then it SHOULD work
I'm just scared that it wont and hence this thread's OP which no one so far has responded to
>>17300338
Don't be scared, OP. I know I was a bit harsh on you, but my best advice to you is fake it until you make it. Everybody has low self-esteem and shitty self confidence, we just pretend that we don't. If you don't stress about it, it will happen. Sure, it might take a while, and you will for sure get disappointed and even hurt along the way, but just be normal about it.
As someone who went to prostitutes regularly from I was 17 until now (I'm 29), losing your virginity to a prostitute is not something I would recommend. It's very empty and void compared to having an actual relationship, even a one night stand feels better because then you at least know she liked you (even if it was just for the night).
>>17300305
Why do you think this makes you entitled to use someone else's body for sex?
>>17299951
If you want to enter into an agreement where you're exchanging money for sex and you can find someone who can freely enter into that agreement, it's certainly an option.
I think that using prostitutes for sexual gratification can damage your understanding of what sex can be in a loving relationship, though I think your notion of being entitled to sex already demonstrate you have some fucked up thinking there. There may also be legal risks involved if prostitution is not legal where you live, but I think it's difficult to make a coherent argument that prostitution is inherently immoral.
>>17300312
>I'm a fat fuck that look like shit, but I'm funny and have charisma and that means I get to fuck. You should try the same.
No you do not. You're a faggot with low standards.
And he shouldn't try the same.
Okay, look here, OP. It's not about the sex probably.
Most likely you're a beautiful mind that THINKS they deserve an equal, and most likely that is the case.
Truth is, it's really hard for that to happen, which means you're going to have to wait a long time for that.
Most people settle for worse.
If you don't feel like doing that, then you're going to have to wait.
>>17300357
>No you do not. You're a faggot with low standards.
Found the angry virgin.
>>17300360
Found the neckbeard with HPV.
>>17300379
>HPV
Isn't that the thing only girls get? And which they now make vaccines against?
>>17299951
Depends, do you want a leaky dick? Also, Fucking a prostitute and jerking off feel about the same the next day. except with a hooker you are also down $150.
>>17300384
I don't know, maybe you should check your dick for proof.
Seriously though, going for sleezy whores isn't the answer.
Looking at both of you.
>>17300432
It's not about "sleezy whores", it's about accepting that the reason OP hasn't had sex ISN'T because Ms Perfect hasn't come along, it's simply because he's stressing too much about it instead of just acting normal around people.
>>17300443
Well, as an "angry virgin", I'm actually looking for Ms Perfect and I thought maybe OP is in the same situation.
I know the risks of waiting for her, and I still think it's worth it.
>>17299951
I will forever repeat this.
But a TENGA DEEP THROAT CUP AND TENGA HOLE LOTION
Feels JUST like going bareback in some warm vaj
>>17300465
>I'm actually looking for Ms Perfect and I thought maybe OP is in the same situation.
It's clear from OP that he just wants to fuck, and he's spent 6 months hitting the gym in order to fuck and is now considering paying a prostitute money to fuck him.
He just wants to stick his dick into a peehole.
>>17300482
>He just wants to stick his dick into a peehole.
That's how you get UTI's, man.
Look maybe you're right, but that doesn't mean he should just stick a dick in any fat unshaved whore that just happens to have a vacant spot.
OP, wanna clear it up for us?
>>17300495
>Look maybe you're right, but that doesn't mean he should just stick a dick in any fat unshaved whore that just happens to have a vacant spot.
Waiting for the perfect 10/10 girl or going for the 1/10 girl aren't the only options, anon.
>>17299951
Coming from a guy who is a 'virgin' but still sees escorts regularly. Do it. Don't wait. It'll change how you feel about sex, and how you view it. It'll show you how full of shit normies are
>>17300503
Well I'm not really saying I'm waiting for that 10/10, but someone that at least understands me.
They're really hard to come by.
But anyway, some people see it that way, I thought maybe that was the case for OP.
PS. I've been on this fucking site for 9 years now, I'm pretty sure that's the case.
Fucking kill me.
>>17300531
>but someone that at least understands me.
Pro tip, you only learn this after spending some months really close with a person, no exceptions.
>>17300531
>They're really hard to come by.
They're not, unless you are weirdly complicated and/or damaged in some weird way.
I've had gfs that didn't understand me, I dumped them. I've had gfs that did understand me, that worked out well. I've had gfs I didn't understand, they dumped me. I've also had a bunch of one night stands, but never with a girl I didn't connect with at all... It's not like I go clubbing and just pick a random girl, it's usually someone I talk to the entire night and then end up going home with.
>>17300540
>Pro tip, you only learn this after spending some months really close with a person, no exceptions.
I know.
>They're not, unless you are weirdly complicated and/or damaged in some weird way.
I'm both.
This isn't about me it's about OP My best /adv/ice is to find someone you feel attracted to both mentally and physically, and not a whore, neither a sloozy you have a boner for.
>>17300352
I wanna avoid hookers if I can
>>17300357
What?
>>17300386
Are you seriously trying to tell me that fapping and even condom sex feel the same?
>>17300477
How's a tenga that's supposed to be oral gonna feel like vag?
Plus I still don't think there's such a thing as any synthetic pussy that feels the same as real
Just no comparison
>>17300482
>into a peehole
thats not how anatomy works
>>17300495
Yeah I'll clear it up stock bickering so much in the damn thread
What I really want is a girlfriend on pills who has been std tested and come back clean
I was just asking if getting a hooker is worth it if all else fails
>>17300513
tell me more
I dont mean that sarcastically I mean for real
>I deserve sex
Be still, my heart. I can just feel my panties melting for you, OP.
>>17300739
cool story stacy
>>17300739
Anon I don't deserve sex. Could you please remedy that for me by having sex with me? Thanks!
>>17300733
>I was just asking if getting a hooker is worth it if all else fails
It's not.
Go to bed.
>>17300733
Nope. Im telling you that you only feel the vagina while you're in it. its a waste of money for a quick release. Unless your only goal is to know what a vagina/mouth/asshole feels like.
>>17300944
Most of the time when fucking a vagina, there's also an entire person attached to that vagina. So the experience of having sex is usually a little more involved than just shoving one's cock into a wet hole.
>>17300968
Not if its with a prostitute.
>>17300968
are you guys saying that its not worth putting any real effort into obtaining because its just mildly good like ice cream or something?
Id never work out until I feel nauseous like I just did over ice cream
>>17301239
On one hand, i want to say you should put more effort into meeting the right person, make a real emotional connection that culminates in sexual intercourse. but on the other hand, if you want to fuck a disease riddled prostitute for $50, its your life and you have the right to do what the fuck you want.
>>17299951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVfnd5r8bM0
>>17301309
I feel like if I don't do it this year then it will never happen
I feel like this is my last chance, if after everything, if after starving myself for half a year to lose all fat, working out 3 times a week and feeling like I'm gonna throw up from it, buying and wearing clothes that I don't care about, spending money on hair cuts and hair products, reading all these books to learn all kinds of social skills and cues and tricks, and finally next semester rushing a bunch of fraternities and hopefully getting in, combined with joining a bunch of clubs (I'm already doing a club this summer), making friends, going to parties and on and on
If after everything and I STILL can't do it then I just don't see how it will ever happen
But I can't bear the thought of going on anymore if it doesn't happen so that's why I'm thinking about getting an escort
>>17301417
Dude, i didn't lose my virginity till i was in my mid 20s. Its not that important. i got over zealous and traded a great friendship for sex, because i didn't want to stay a virgin. It'll happen, just let it come naturally and don't be so obsessive over it. And if its so important to you, just get the fucking escort. you don't need a strangers affirmation to do so, there's nothing morally wrong with it, its just a waste of money. just be careful, so you don't catch something.
>>17300968
>prostitutes are people
>>17301700
>let it happen naturally
from what I can tell when people say that they are referring to a really vague concept where if you have a "normal" life then it will inevitably happen no matter what
well the thing is I don't have a normal life right now and unless I build one I'm shit out of luck
I've gone from a 307 pound near- NEET to a 215 pound guy who goes the to gym 3 times a week to lift, dresses stylishly, has cool hair, and can actually get people to laugh and smile and shit
also im in college
Basically what the whole point of this thread is that I'm worried that even once I get a "normal" life going it still wont happen
I got hookers all the time when I was 18-20 then I met a girl who was actually really nice, we didn't have sex but we did a lot of foreplay and making out as our first moment together and it was colossaly better than any hooker. You're better off just waiting it out but if you want a girl right this second try dating sites/apps or join clubs or societies that you are interested in - best way to meet new people if you're in college.
like every single semester there are people who come in as freshmen and by the end of their very 1st college semester they are allready getting laid
there has got to be some fucking way that I can do this this has to stop
