>disclaimer: male. mid 20's I have had relationships and can get sex not-infrequently
I honestly am just tired of the female gender. Not on some 'women-hating' shit but I will be honest and say I hold them in contempt and slight annoyance. just don't see the fucking point in dating and investing time and energy in women, save for family like your mother or something.
You spend your time and money on someone who MIGHT reciprocate 1/4 of your emotional investment while that same investment is getting diluted by an army of thirsty dudes validating the girl's existence if she's somewhat attractive thanks to Tinder, Instagram, etc. . That's just how it is sure, but is it worth all of that trouble?
And then the man has to be the confident 'leader' for a woman? Waaay too much fucking work. A protector? There's guns, mace, and secure apartments, we don't live in the fucking caveman days anymore, not in 'murica. Why the shit should I have to put in all that effort to be a protector when it's unnecessary? The man has to be her alpha male stoic stable 'rock'... like why waste your time on somebody who is so mentally fragile and weak they can't stand on their own two feet? Is that what being 'feminine' is? Fucking Ew.
Sometimes I feel inclined to date one of those 'strong independent women' feminists so I don't have to hold their hand 24/7 and just do my own thing and chill. Sometimes I feel like I should just friend-zone a bunch of gay dudes for companionship and fap to straight-porn/hire escorts and get my sexual needs satisfied that way. Sometimes I feel like going straight hikikomori and living a chill but inwardly directed life.
Is this line of thinking normal for someone my age?
>>17100313
Of course its not normal, how many people have you dated? You're prejudiced, but it can be fixed, its probably your fault for always going for the dames types of girls: the stereotypes. I honestly feel someone with experience with relationships wouldn't feel the way you do, having sex doesn't count.
>>17100325
I've 'dated' 3 girls in my life. I've had sex with a little over 30
>>17100313
i kind of feel the same way. by no means do i hate or even dislike women and i cant stand the red pill shit. women just annoy me most of the time, at the ones i seem to meet. i think the competition is too high now due to social media, tinder etc. from my experience women expect too much from men, they often want us to be successful but at the same time give them attention all the time, it doesn't work that way, i need to spend time doing my own thing if i want to get anywhere in life.
>>17100342
How the hell did you bag 30?
>>17100313
>who MIGHT reciprocate 1/4 of your emotional investment
Then you're doing it wrong
>And then the man has to be the confident 'leader' for a woman?
You should be a confident leader in all aspects of life.
It shouldn't be "work." It should be who you are.
Maybe you're just a pussy.
>Why the shit should I have to put in all that effort to be a protector when it's unnecessary?
Because it turns them on.
Why do girls have to have big boobs even if you're not going to have kids?
Same shit, bud.
>like why waste your time on somebody who is so mentally fragile and weak they can't stand on their own two feet?
Not true at all. Even confident and independent girls like a strong man.
>Sometimes I feel like I should just friend-zone a bunch of gay dudes for companionship
Seems appropriate, as you sound like a complete faggot.
You're just gay dude. Come out of the closet already.
More girls for me.
>>17100375
be /fit/, live near a college campus, and use tinder
>>17100381
this is the shit i'm talking about. all this work in being some 24/7 alpha leader an orgasm that lasts 5 seconds and replaceable validation...fuck that
>>17100395
being /fit/ is over rated. being social and well groomed is better.
>>17100401
*for an orgasm
>>17100401
It's not fucking work though.
A confident leader is who I am and who I aspire to be at all times.
Being yourself isn't work.
Also, maybe the problem is that you date insane tinder chicks.
Try meeting some normal girls.
>>17100401
i agree. the whole point of being alpha was to lead a pack, i.e to basically be a good politician. it wasnt never meant to be used to fuck women. guys are not alpha if they are doing it for women, they are being cucks. and anyway, only a few leaders are meant to exist, not many, most men are meant to be betas. only the best females are meant to get the alpha. its retarded if all women expect to get alphas, most females should be looking for betas because that is all most deserve. of coruse, women will always prefer the aplhpa but they should not expect the average dude to be alpha.
>>17100418
>If a guy is attractive to girls, holds their attention and loyalty, he is a cuck
Wow. This assbackwards rationalizing.
>I don't have the spine to be a badass
>How dare women expect good men
>>17100428
nice assumption. you misinterpreted my whole message. i said if they do it for women they are a cuck and not even alpha. the whole point of being alpha is to have influence over women. not to fuck women. if you think the point of being alpha is to fuck women, you dont even know what it means to be alpha, son.
>>17100435
sorry i meant to have influence over people, not influence of over women >>17100428
>>17100428
How dare women expect good men? How dare shit women expect good men. Men aren't entitled to women's body's sure. You're not entitled to our fucking time, attention, or money. Women would learn this lesson if it wasn't for the thirsty betas who ruin everything for everybody.
Fuck off.
>>17100342
>30 women
>3 gfs
You're doing life wrong brah, no wonder you're a strange jaded individual
>>17100435
Do you even know what cuck means, son?
>If you do things that attract and influence women, you don't have influence over women
>The whole point of being alpha is influence over women, yet you shouldn't be alpha in order to fuck women
You're seriously retarded.
Did you graduate grade school?
>>17100403
>being /fit/ is over rated
Get a load of this guy.
>>17100439
What the hell are you on about?
I have high standards for girls and I expect girls to have high standards for men.
What are you even angry about?
Your impotence?
Your sad penis that will never go near a vagina in your life?
Also, shit men expect good women, so it goes both ways, son.
>>17100445
Okay. This correction does not improve anything.
>Being alpha is about influencing people
>If you're alpha to influence women, you're not alpha
>Women aren't people
I see. You're special.
>>17100453
still dont understand what i mean. you're advocating being alpha with the intent to attract women, this is the completely wrong mind set for someone who is alpha. Someone who is alpha doesent lead people for women, he does it to dominate the enviroment. do you think napoleon done it for women? if you attempt to become alpha for women, you're not alpha, you're weak and bound. an alpha isnt lead, he leads. if you dont understand this. also, stop using stigmatizing shaming in an attempt to deter as that in its self is retarded. i never said that being alpha wont get you women. i said doing it for women isnt alpha. if you dont understand this and continue to misinterpret what i mean, i am going to assume you're baiting or slow. the outcome does not always reflect the intent. do you also believe philosophers write for money.
>>17100474
If you're alpha to influence women, you're still being alpha to influence people.
Not to mention that if you're an alpha around women, you're going to be an alpha around anyone.
Your initial motivation is irrelevant.
Also in your mind, being alpha to lead women in general is somehow impure or not worthy of your glorious high moral standards?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
I've never met a man in my life who's a boss around woman but is a pussy around men.
Just doesn't happen.
So you're arguing against a person that doesn't actually exist.
You speak like a person who's never had the pleasure of being a leader or being attractive to women.
You woefully misunderstand the dynamics of human interaction and your analysis is purely autistic.
>>17100313
Dr. Dre has some great advice on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUfzMDryA94
>>17100313
I feel you OP. I've dressed well and behaved like alpha males all through my late teens (16-19), and i can guarantee it works. I also don't hate women. I've been with three and they where all decent people.
I'm now 21 and that side of me just died. I don't even know why. I used to be out all the time during the weekends. I was super social, had a lot of friends. Now all i want to do is workout and pass my exams. If i ever get some free time i sleep.
>>17100481
>If you're alpha to influence women, you're still being alpha to influence people.
not really. you dont have to necessarily be intelligent to influence women. one direction influence women and they are not alpha. being alpha means to lead the pack, and run the village, or the state, its not just some confident guy, obviously confidence helps.
>Also in your mind, being alpha to lead women in general is somehow impure or not worthy of your glorious high moral standards
how can you still not understand this.
>i've never met a man in my life who's a boss around woman but is a pussy around men. being alpha is more than just not being a pussy though. and anecdotes mean nothing really. you seem to think that being alpha means being confident. it takes more than confidence to be a leader.
mate, you cant call anyone autistic if you think someone that someone who tried to become a leader for sex is alpha. alpha a beta is just another label for the master and slave philosophy. only a select few people are meant to be alpha. study sociology or something because it sounds like you dont understand how society actually works.
>>17100313
Op feel your pain
Femanon, early 20s has a great career, independent as fuck. But relationships whre men are VERY dependant on me. Like it sucks you spend so much time and money on so one in the end who cant even pay for themselves I always feel oh I'm stuck with the check at the end of dinner feeling always. It's normal for someone whose been though shit like you to feel this way. Relationships are hard with dependant people expecially if they don't know what to do for their life and so needy. Like my opinion op. Go for someone who has tyhei life in motion. Mean has a job (no foinacial issues stable career), not a cunt, RELITIVELY NO EMOTIONAL ISSSUES from past relationships or anything stupid, and looks at the whole picture. But either or you attract A lot of dependant girls. Why not take time to be friends to determine he or she's ya know not another headache. Save you shit ton in the lon run
That or go on vacation from relationships did that for 2 years
>>17100405
>A confident leader is who I am and who I aspire to be at all times.
Jesus, fuck off you faggot. No one who is actually a "leader" would call himself that. It's cringeworthy, you delusional beta.
>>17101103
thank you for this
>>17100313
It's more normal than you think.
What I don't get is why there are so many people that suck up to women on this board.
>>17102222
>quads
I think /adv/ is like the only board where women themselves post on 4chan
>>17102301
Stroll on over to >>>/cgl/ and hold onto your butthole.
>>17100510
And now he's married with kids.
It seems to me you've been dating the wrong kind of women; immature and unsuccessful in life. Might've been just bad luck, but it was probably your fault for attracting women like that.
>>17100313
Kinda at that stage too.
Waste so much time and money trying to prove I'm worthy only to find out I'm just another oribtor with others trying to do the same. No matter how important I feel in her life, to her I'm just another expendable guy friend.
>>17102301
You mean, /adv/ is one of the few boards where mentioning your sex is relevant, so you know that girls post here.
Gods, it's no wonder you fuckers don't get decent relationships. Just reading this thread has made me never want to meet OP or those that feel the same.
>>17100313
When it comes to male-female relationships, be it romantic, familial or work, it's incredibly lopsided. The man has to put in an exorbitant amount of effort to make it work while the women generally is just on the receiving end.
It's due to cultural factors cultivated over centuries. However, there still exists some women who break this trend, though it is rare. I'd say that you should date "below" your status. Don't bother with normal girls, only date girls who are obviously crazy about you. I've witnessed this type of relationship before, as rare as it is. I don't know if you'll ever find her, but she may exist in this world. But if you ever do, snatch her up as fast as you can and marry her. Every time I've seen this type of relationship, it always leads to a happy, life long marriage.
tl;dr do not ever work to get a woman, it will be a dead end relationship. Become stoic towards women and wait for one of them to chase you.
Check this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9ZZgDqzAg
>>17100313
>/r9k/ invasion
lol yeah, you're tired of dating because women suck, it couldn't POSSIBLY be because you suck...
>>17100547
>behaved like alpha males all through my late teens (16-19), and i can guarantee it works
>I've been with three
ayyyyyye lmao. putting up some good numbers there, alpha-bro. 3 whole women? shiiiiiiiiiiiit.
>>17100439
Why are you mad at the women? Just stay mad at the betas.
You're like those chicks who get mad at the strippers for "taking their men" instead of being mad at their boyfriends for going to the strip club in the first place.
>>17100313
Once you truly stop caring about sex/women, you will become free to find what you desire. Follow the less-followed path, pilgrim-anon.
>>17103991
Kek i didn't mean i'm a 10/10 alpha male; all i was saying is that back then i tried to be in general more like actually successfull men and it was fun. It worked for a while. Then i slowly died inside and everything became boring (why that happened i don't know). Three is actually a good result considering i'm in reality a 4/10 idiot
