I have been suicidal for a long time, therapy & meds don't help.
I already know what the problem is but people don't take me seriously.
I'm suicidal/depressed because I'm a virgin.
Therapy & suicide hotlines will not make me lose my virginity.
I have been rejected by over 300 women in my life.
I have many women call me cute/attractive, I get accepted to go on dates
but I can never seal the deal with women.
I am thinking about ending my life next month, I already told my company I will be quitting.
It's really sad, no one believes me that I'm suicidal because I'm a virgin.
I wish there was another way, I don't know how to get a prostitute ESPECIALLY when I moved back in with my family.
I have quit 10 jobs all because I get depressed about being a virgin, that I lose the energy to show up to work the next day.
Its been sapping my energy and has been making me miserable. I always end up getting a good high paying job
but I don't feel any motivation to work it because I'm the only person on the planet who can't get laid even if he wanted to.
Perhaps people might take you more seriously if you explained to them what about being virgin makes you want to end your life. I'm a virgin too. I'm sure sex is great (people literally kill for it on occasion), but is the lack of it really worth giving up on everything else you could experience in life?
Also, I think people usually take hookers to motels.
do it, it will easy on your fear.
don't be stupid, world is harder to live when you are stupid.
and never go full retard.
http://www.blackdragonblog.com/
well then get rid if your virginity then. go to a bar every single weekend for a month, buy girls drinks and talk to them till closing. Tell everyone you are a virgin as soon as you meet them. Dont say you want to fuck them though. Just chill and hang out. Have fun. if its not working out, buy them more drinks. buy yourself a drink.when the bar closes ask them if they want to come over and drink more. aim for a 5/10 your first time, dont be a sperglord and think the universe owes you more than that. decorate your room so its nice. light candles. open a bottle of wine. offer to massage. get cuddly, offer oral to the girl. have sex. this is how basically everyone does it. oh, and buy a condom ahead of time.
>>17062478
> I have been rejected by over 300 women
What kind of women do you think I been asking out? I'm talking IRL bars, friends, women I know for long time. Strangers, joining clubs, etc.
I aimed for fat women, ugly women, single moms and all have been rejection.
The ONE girl that said she was interested, said we have to wait till marriage. The problem was she had sex with over 80+ guys and told me she wants a guy who wants to give her children. I felt like a cuckold being around her because she was having sex with her guy friends while making me wait till I marry her.
>>17062456
How do I get a hooker, I tried backpage but there's too many scams. I'm scared of STD's btw.
I already experienced everything life has to offer except sex & a relationship.
You should do what men who can't have sex the traditional way do. Go to a legal brothel. They have several in Nevada......It is safer than going to a prostitute on the street....Good luck
>>17062371
Buy a hooker
>>17062498
I will try booking flight for Nevada next month.
OP, you're mentally ill. Seriously. Not a judgement or a criticism, you sound like you have an anxiety/depression combo and it's ruining your life. Call the police and ask for a paramedic, tell them you have suicidal ideation and want help.
What have you got to lose?
>>17062523
You're welcome. If it doesn't work out and you're still miserable after losing your virginity, sorry.
>>17062532
What are you talking about, did you even read my post? I had therapy before and my doctor knows I don't have mental issues.
I think you need to seek help if you're this incapable of understanding another human. It's like saying someone is mentally ill for crying because someone just stabbed them in the eye.
>>17062555
I had taken therapy before and seen a doctor and all those other things.
The 100% cause to my depression is inability to get laid. Losing my virginity at least would lessen the sadness.
It's just frustrating that people don't genuinely believe me, they think that people only get sad because of mental issues.. like I don't have a conscience, like I'm not a human being or something with his own feelings.
If anything I would be inhuman if I were to feel nothing from failing my biological imperative.
local backpage son.....
have you ever have asian massage with haaaaaaapppy ending?
welcome to adult world.
>>17062565
You got any ways I can guarantee avoid STD's?
No kissing? Condom? Anything else? I don't want any STD's
>>17062371
You are so fucking stupid. Sex is literally nothing special. Its like jacking off with a friend. Hire a hooker to take your virginity so you can see how banal the act itself is. Then, once your imaginary problem is deflated, you will be able to attract girls. Girls smell desperation and mental illness from 10 miles away and they are right to avoid that.
Dont be a retard and kill yourself over a problem that can be solved with 100 dollars.
>>17062596
escorts near me won't take black guys.
I'm not mentally ill for having emotions.
If sex was nothing special I don't think it would be the most profitable thing in the world.
>>17062558
You're talking about suicide amd have quit multiple jobs by your own admission, but everything is fine upstairs... one therapist* said so.
Sure okay. Carry on then, everything seems to be working out fine.
*there are a shit load of bad therapists out there chief, they don't even have to go to medical school.
>>17062371
Start working out.
Get fit.
It'll make you feel better in the short term and eventually you'll be more confident and attractive.
It's something you can do right now. Do some push ups. As many as you can. Sit ups. Crunches.
Go get a trial gym membership.
Go on /fit/ and read the sticky.
>>17062627
You are mentally ill when your emotions drive you to irrational acts (suicide being pretty up there).
Sex really isn't as amazing as you've built it up to be man. You won't believe us until after you've had it, but it's true. Once (if) you have any, you'll wonder how you could have wasted so much time and energy thinking about it.
You ask for advice, then tell us we're wrong when you get it. I wash my hands of this thread. Get a hooker, grow up and quit thinking you know every god damned thing (big part of your virgin problem right there), or off yourself. Just quit being a self deluding crazy on the internet would you? We're all full up on dumbass.
I can't seem to get laid either. However I'm only 19. I got a hand job the other day, and it was really underwhelming. Kinda cool, but less than I thought it'd be. Just keep trying. I know it's really frustrating. Perhaps try trying for a lesser class, like at a redneck bar in some hick town or something. Idk man good luck.
>>17062627
>I'm not mentally ill for having emotions
Yeah cus wanting to kill yourself is healthy.
What happens when you get ebola? It leads to your death. What happens when you get depression? It leads to your dteath.
It's the definition of being sick.
Sex is boring. It's good for the first two weeks of being with someone but after that eh.
>>17062653
How the hell is suicide irrational?
I have lots of money and it's easy to get friends and everything. I already went through a doctor they said I'm not mentally ill for this, it's purely psychological, it's no different than you screaming for someone ripping your nails off your fingers.
> You won't believe us until after you've had it
What you don't understand is I don't want to have sex for the pleasure of the act itself. What I wanted was to get rid of the stigma, the psychological impact being a virgin brings. If sex turned out to not be fun it would actually cure my suicidal urges & depression.
You don't understand yet you're shitting on me calling me mentally ill when I'm having a natural normal reaction that mostly everyone has for being a virgin for so long. It is completely abnormal for someone to not care about sex when they never had it.
>>17062836
You guys sound like the mentally ill ones because you don't understand the problem. You think I want to have sex to satisfy my sex-drive even though I never said that. You don't understand what the problem is yet you think you know the answer. I wouldn't be surprised if people you know commit suicide because you just make them feel worse with your apathy.
>>17063612
>How the hell is suicide irrational?
Lock this guy up.
>>17063612
Dude, you're fucking nuts. Please, kill yourself and rid us of your idiocy then.
TopKek at our "apathy". You came to 4chan expecting people to care about you? How fucking stupid are you? Don't answer, the it's obvious anyhow.
If you genuinely don't think you're mentally ill, print this thread out, highlight your posts and take it to a psychiatrist. Let them tell you who's crazy, dumbass. You won't though, because you know we're right and professional will agree with us.
>>17063709
If life sucks and is so bad someone can not cope, regardless of how little or stupid the reasons may appear to someone else, it's perfectly normal for a person to want to kill themselves.
For example, being poor. It's estimated 37% of suicides are due to financial reasons. The rest of the suicides stem from mental (list any mental illness here) or physical (suffering from a painful illness and treatment isn't working) reasons.
Now, killing yourself because you don't look like Justin Beiber seems pretty irrational and that person MAY be mentally ill.
Being a virgin and trouble getting laid? I can see how that leads to some depression which can eventually lead to thoughts of suicide. An asexual, however, would say: okay, what's the problem with being a virgin?
It really depends on how important those "shitty" problems in your life bother you and whether or not they can be resolved before committing suicide.
End of thread/10
>>17062371
OP i have an advice
if you want to get rid of yoir virgenity travel to an arabic country
Fake your relegion to islam
Get some money, a job and a house its pretty cheap in algeria morroco and tunisia
Then propose to a random girl at her house in front of her parents
This method works every time especialy if you are a foriegner i am an algerian and girls will do anythinsg to marry a foriener
>>17062558
>I had therapy before and my doctor knows I don't have mental issues.
We are not qualified to diagnose here on /adv/, but if your doctor thinks you don't have mental issues, you need a new doctor.
Your first post alone shows extremely strong indicators of anxiety, dysthymia, and obsessive thought patterns. And that's just off the top of my head.
Seriously. Get yourself some help: a new doctor at the absolute least. Being a virgin is not supposed to do this to people.
And then find whatever organization is responsible for maintaining your current doctor's license, and file a complaint. Anyone who says "there's nothing wrong" to someone regularly experiencing suicidal ideation should not be practicing mental health care.
>>17063756
I had therapy for over years, I don't have anxiety anymore. I am suicidal because I feel no fulfillment from anything. It's not an instant urge to stab myself, it's a "might as well kill myself if I'm not having fun" deal.
You idiots really think I haven't tried seeking help.
I literally had went through over 30 therapists, they don't know what to really talk about with me since my past issues been taken care of.
>>17062492
>made you wait
>fucked other guys
Holy shit dude. What do you look like?
>>17063883
Why not just forget sex altogether and focus your energy somewhere else.
If all your problems are focused around one dumb thing you can't get then give up. Holy fuck why the obsession.
Go get a Google cardboard or an oculus and watch panorama porn. As one who is not a virgin and decent with women, I can tell you it's psychologically convincing. Brain thinks it's real as fuck.
So you can do it, be unsatisfied, and realise what I'm telling you now.
Sex isn't a big deal at all. It only seems that way because insecure faggots brag about it like it makes them people, and beta fags act like their world is ending because they can't.
>>17063904
I could email my pic to you, but this is 4chan.
I'm not ugly trash tier, I just have trash social skills when it comes to getting laid. (I can make friends easily though.)
People telling me to get therapy obviously never had therapy, or they're autistic or something. I have more therapy experience than anyone on this board, it only works for a certain type of people it's a very flawed system which can be proven when I get 30 therapists that all suck and peoples advice is to keep trying to look for the right one.
If 1/31 therapists actually help me then it's not the system, it's just that one person.
Literally the only thing that remotely comes to advice by a therapist is the stuff you find on front page of reddit's "GetMotivated" sub, everything else is just boomerang questions and pretend caring on their end.
It's not their job to fix peoples problems, THERAPISTS DON'T FIX PROBLEMS. I'm looking for solution and I realized there might not be one so it's better to suicide.
I get shit talked for not being vapid enough to be complacent with living a mediocre life, I'm called mentally ill for not enjoying a mediocre life and not wanting to better myself.
>>17063917
I'm not a beta fag, I don't want sex just to get my nut off. I want to cure this psychological issue, if 10+ years of therapy didn't help me what would 1 more year do?
>>17063924
Because it is and always was on you.
If you can't get laid, you can't get laid. So let it go. The psychological condition is centering your value around not getting laid. You said yourself that is the problem.
So forget it. Go write a book or accomplish something big.
>>17063883
just go to a hooker. Drive a few miles if you don't find any near you. Go to a legal Brothel, It's probably the safest.
You'll see that you were stressing for no reason at all.
Lastly how are YOU guys not mentally ill for verbally harassing someone who said they were suicidal?
You think your advice is valid when you simultaneously encourage the OP to suicide. You further contribute to the problem and make things worse while simultaneously talking about how righteous you are, and how moral you are?
>>17063930
That's the thing anon, I'm trying to follow your advice, I really am trying. Funny enough I'm actually writing a book. Thing is, I don't feel satisfied.
I got over the instant urge to suicide, but I feel like suicide is logical because even though I'm writing my book and I got into my dream career, I don't feel accomplished.
I still have this inferiority complex that interferes with my other hobbies & activities.
That's why I want to suicide now, because it interferred with the rest of my life and prevented me from being happy. I don't cry in my room or anything but I don't smile anymore.
>>17063932
This is what I'm trying to do, I'm trying to book a hooker now, I see many that say that don't allow blacks though.
>>17063941
How old are you?
>>17063728
I agree with this guy
>>17063941
>>17063944
>don't allow blacks
Holy shit hang on.
More importantly than how old are you, where the fuck do you live??
Sounds like you gotta move!
Son. You need some device what you can reach.
Device or advice.
I give you some.
Do a little body building. Like yoga. Thai box. Kung Fu,
Do a little relaxation. Meditation. Feel your inner self.
Do some thing what get you motivated.
And never give up. The life always give you some kind of pleasure what you can feel to good.
Never give up son. Never. The life is on your side. Use it. Feel it. Give Love. Get Love.
Thats the secret of how to live.
Always have light on the darknesses place ever. Always. Just find it to you Man.
Sex is one of those things that people like to boast about. It's this "adult thing" that everyone wants to try. Like drinking beer in elementary school, you drink or you aren't cool.
I lost my virginity on a party when I was 17 and haven't had sex until now (19) even though I had many occasions. Yeah, it's fairly enjoyable, but you don't feel like you NEED to do it after losing your virginity. If parties and stuff like that aren't your kind of thing just fuck a hooker and go on with your life.
>>17063933
Is this a bait or are you retarded?
>>17063952
I'm 23 years old, I already am quitting my job next month.
Someone in this chat has suggested I go to Nevada where they have brothels.
I will try that. I guess this thread is kinda over now I was just angry at the other people who gave useless advice. (They tell me to do the things I already had done for over 10 years which was see a therapist.)
>>17063957
If I lost my virginity and never had sex again, I might get annoyed but I wouldn't be suicidal over it.
>>17063961
Maybe sex really isn't such a big deal, but you can't really *GET* that until you've seen and felt for youself.
I, for one, sure as hell can't stop feeling like shit because I can't get laid.
21 y.o. from Germany, haven't posted in this thread yet. Hi. I feel you all.
You know what's the difference between you and normies who get laid?
You can pretend that you're a typical normie all you want but you'll never get right all the small things, which matter the most. Stuff like controlling your face expressions, eye contact, appropriate hand movement, poses, way of talking, controlling your voice and getting out of sticky situations.
That's why, and you won't be able to change until you'll understand all these small little actions.
If you simply can't do that just move on and appreciate how unique of a person you are.
>>17063964
> until you've seen and felt for yourself
Yeah, this is the issue. It's not about pleasure it's about my ignorance to the act, an act that even 15 year olds could get easily and I'm a grown adult.
It's like never going outside before, and you're locked in a basement and everyone you know has been outside before except you, it's another kind of suffering in itself.
>>17063976
>15 year olds could get easily and I'm a grown adult
Jesus christ, this. When I was 15 most of the people around me didn't have any experience in relationships and sex in my school started at the end of highschool. This shit blows my mind.
>>17063975
I thought about this man, there's a lot I'd need to internally change about myself to get laid without a hooker. The thought of that, that I'm inherently undesirable.
I show girls my picture online and they call me cute all the time, and when I ask people on dates a lot of times I get a yes. So I can't blame my looks (I know I'm not Chad) But, the mere thought that my social skills can be so garbage that no amount of looks or money will help is fucked up!
I know a homeless guy who has a girlfriend, and I got a software job and take care of my appearance.
>>17063958
Nonono. Not over.
New insight. First of all I didn't even know places that "don't allow blacks" still existed. That has got to be a negative environment that contributes to all of your problems.
Secondly, I'm 28. I was rife with problems and insecurities at 23. I'm not going to compete, play you down or patronize you over your issues. But I will say you're still a child. This tends to vanish after 25 on its own. Note I say 'tends to'. Not saying it'll happen for you but you've fought so hard you owe yourself a few more years.
But forget all that shit. Gtfo of where you live. Holy Christ. That kind of racism is completely unacceptable. Come to Canada, we treat you like people here.
Could even be the change you need to kick-start your repairs.
So I'll leave you with that.
Give it more time.
Move! Now!
>>17063998
>But, the mere thought that my social skills can be so garbage that no amount of looks or money will help is fucked up!
Why? You're a man. Society says men have to basically do the job of courting/wooing/chasing a girl and charming her into bed. If you can't do that, you're kinda shit out of luck.
But you sure as hell ain't alone. Prostitutes exist for a reason. And dominant girls exist as well, who won't mind if you sit back and let them run the show.
Finally, a lot of guys manage to get a girl or two in their lives even with total crap social skills by simply becoming incredibly desirable to the point where a loose girl will jump your bones simply for a night's pleasure (this involves working out like a beast). Or by being massively successful in their chosen field or hobby: girls like a winner.
And do you even know what's wrong? If you're asking them out and getting "Yes"s then you're already most of the way there, many guys have bad enough problems that they can't get anywhere close to that. Are you going on a few dates then getting cut off by the girl every time?
>>17064007
>First of all I didn't even know places that "don't allow blacks" still existed. That has got to be a negative environment that contributes to all of your problems.
No, dumbass, read it again
He's talking about hookers that say "no blacks" in their ads
But he's just trying to find excuses, most hookers will take anyone as long as their cash is green
>>17064080
>And dominant girls exist as well, who won't mind if you sit back and let them run the show.
Where can I find those? How do I make them know that I exist and that they can dominate me all they want?
I'm being serious, I've had past experiences (let's call this a "light internet relationship", sorry, please don't laugh, I'm being serious), and that made me realize how happy I was when they were the dominant person and were the ones to move things forward. Then things went to shit and it ended. I guess I'd be pretty happy if this happened IRL with real intimacy and stuff.
Any help is greatly appreciated, I'm pretty desperate.
>>17064107
>Where can I find those? How do I make them know that I exist and that they can dominate me all they want?
Generally, dating sites. Also Tinder, maybe.
Past that, no clue, i haven't found/been found by any IRL myself (though my brother has).
Unfortunately society frowns upon girls taking the lead and making moves, so most won't. The fact that you can physically do it means you can at least lose your virginity, if not get into a serious relationship (check out tinder, it's made for casual sex)
I don't know if this is helping but i don't think lack of sex is actually the problem. I think the problem is you having a problem with the lack of sex, and feeling uncomfortable near a woman or getting too anxious about closing the deal.
I know what you are going through because i'm at the exact opposite situation, and oddly, i completely understand why you feel sad. My situation is that i hooked up with so many girls and had sex with so many of my " friends " that none of them would actually take me serious for relationship material. Thus, sex became meaningless, i knew that it was just that and after i cum, we eat and then i just go home. Dude, problem is you are actually lonely, you just someone to be there for you.
Here's what i would do:
1. Start working out - it's good for the mind, you'd be surprised how alive you feel after a good workout.
2. For fuck's sake, stop considering suicide. Lack of sex is not good enough reason for suicide.
3. You should honestly consider travelling. Travel to countries like the Netherlands, Belgium, UK or Romania. Where the fun almost always includes sex and most people speak english and are friendly.
4. Smoke some weed from time to time. It really helps for anxiety.
5. Stop seeing the fact that you are a virgin as a problem. The problem is insecurity. Insecurity is not sexy, neither is anxiety.
6. Act as if i'm not a virgin: Go on a date. Confident as fuck. Ask her to see a movie/whatever way to get you two in the same room. Kiss, try second base if she goes with it you go with it. Never mention that you are a virgin. Put on a condom, just go with it, it's as natural as it gets. Even if you finish too quick or she doesn't orgasm... you can only go upwards from there. Also: before you try that, make sure you watch some quality porn, like passionate one, just so you at least some positions, don't look like an amateur.
Hope you get your shit together.
White guy from Romania. Cheers.
>>17062371
Just buy a hooker if you're so bent out of shape over getting laid, jesus christ. Then once you discover all your problems didn't just magically disappear after sex you can begin to grow the fuck up and develop as a person.
>>17062496
LOL
>>17063883
>I had therapy for over years, I don't have anxiety anymore.
If you didn't have anxiety anymore, then the stigma against virginity would not frighten you like it clearly does.
>I am suicidal because I feel no fulfillment from anything.
That's what I said: dysthymia. Actually this particular symptom is more like anhedonia, but the two go hand-in-hand so often that they're almost interchangeable.
>It's not an instant urge to stab myself, it's a "might as well kill myself if I'm not having fun" deal.
That's still suicidal ideation.
>You idiots really think I haven't tried seeking help.
I think you're remembering some things wrong. We all do it sometimes, especially around the things that get us emotionally charged, and most of all when we aren't well. I do it too. Nothing to be ashamed of, but it does mean that you can't let your past attempts prevent you from making future ones.
>I literally had went through over 30 therapists
And not one of them figured out that you are clearly not well? I'm sorry, OP, but if you talked to them like you're talking to us, that sounds rather far-fetched.
>they don't know what to really talk about with me since my past issues been taken care of.
So what DID they talk about, then? 30+ therapists in ten-odd years is an average of 15 weeks per therapist, with sone breaks in between as you find new ones. That's actually quite respectable as a trial period, but it's a long time to talk abkut nothing.
