did you honestly wait for sex? I want to start looking for a wife and I'm still a virgin but I'm worried they'll lie to me.
I live in Anchorage if it matters
tell me something anon, why is virginity so important to you?
The Prophet's first wife was much older than him and not a virgin, though she gave him nothing but love and devoted support when he thought he had gone insane after first receiving divine inspiration.
>>17049301
Any woman that would cover herself as part of her religion is a fucking moron. Why be with a fucking moron?
>>17049306
He also fucked a child, so maybe we shouldnt be taking our lessons from him.
>>17049306
I hate this argument it's such twisting of words. No one's talking about widows.
>>17049301
Muslims girls are sluts and whores just as much as women of any race/religion are. Don't be naive.
If anybody falls for that whole "good girl wearing the hijab" bullshit, they're retarded.
>>17049421
you didn't answer the question, why is virginity so important to you?
>>17049430
Because I am, because I want someone who shares my values. How can I trust some basic "I was such a slut in college" girl to have my kids?
As long as she's not dressing indecently she's a virgin. It's against their religion but many of them wear leggings and skirts which is pointless, why even be Muslim if you disobey your own rules to look slutty for guys?
>>17049541
But what is the foundation for your values?
>>17049301
I've had sex with many muslim girls. The one thing in common is they like anal. They think that if they don't have vaginal sex they stay a virgin. 3 of them married a muslim and never told the husbands they had previous relationships. I will just say that muslim girls are not as pure as they think they are and the men who marry them are fooled.
>>17049565
Not op but an americuck.
So statistically speaking, if a couple has had less sexual partners they are more likely to not get a divorce.
So if going strictly based on logic, if you want to have a long lasting marriage, don't marry The village bike.
Women who have had less sexual partners tend to cheat less as well.
>>17049579
> they all like anal
That is so based.
Time to Fuck Muslim girls!!
>>17049597
But not everyone who isn't a virgin is a slut. And it seems to me that people who only fucked one person get curious easier than people who have experience but left it behind. Also, virgin-until-marriage marriages are usually the kind which isn't happy but just doesn't want to show the rest of the world that/stays together for practical reasons or out of fear, not the marriage you'd want to have.
>>17049301
Unless you actually believe in a greater diety, or any part of your religion, I suppose so.
Don't forget, just because people call themselves something, doesn't mean they are (lying is human nature, it's instinctual).
You can't openly believe every word that someone tells you, it's normal to be cautious i.e. Someone lying about their virginity.
So I ask you OP, if you don't take your religion seriously, or don't actually believe in Allah, why think about something as trivial as "virginity"?
It won't change you at all, it's just an idea and a fancy word for your first time having sex.
The long and short of it is: Go for it if you have the chance, unless you believe it will affect your relationship with your god .
>>17049617
Honey bunny,
You asked why they'd be appealing.
I gave you reasons.
You want more context. People who seek virgins also don't like the idea of having to sexually outperform the woman's other partners.
Women who've had it allot become picky, and if the husbands not packing they wonder.
So like virgins don't know anything else so they can't say if sex is any better somewhere else. as long as the man is good to her she'll stick around.
Just saying you're argument for having tried it is more of a negative.
I don't want to know my wife sucked tyrons dick in college. Or that tyrone has the stamina of a race horse.
I want a wife who didn't get a dicking from everyone on my block.
Another example. Do you want a fresh unopened soda? Or one everyone's stuck their penis in?
>>17049565
My religion. I used to drink sometimes but quit, I always done my 5 salat and fasted etc. I've had white girls jump my bones and told them to fuck off. Seems like asking the same from a woman is just impossible though. I hear about those fake hymen surgeries and see shit like >>17049579 and I just want to give up entirely.
>>17049641
>Unless you actually believe in a greater diety, or any part of your religion, I suppose so.
Of course I do. I've gone through so much for my faith. I do take it seriously.
>>17049667
>So like virgins don't know anything else so they can't say if sex is any better somewhere else. as long as the man is good to her she'll stick around.
"Marry virgins for their mouths are sweeter and they are satisfied with less"
>>17049667
And that's what they call objectification of women, and why pretty much every woman wants to get as far as possible from you.
>>17049709
Just realize that women - especially women that live in the western world - are not pure flowers. They are not. Even white western women are still portrayed as innocent pure angels when anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows that is bullshit.
I wish you luck, I really do. But looks can be deceiving, and just because a woman presents herself as modest, doesn't mean she is. I also know for a fact that Muslim girls are huge sluts and whores - from online porn, as well as from what a manwhore friend of mine has told me.
>>17049716
Amen brother!
>>17049610
>>17049579
>The one thing in common is they like anal
Not only muslim ones...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ZF_R_j0OY
:-)
>>17049727
Actually, I'm in a stable relationship and have been for 8 years.
I accomplished this by following the same principles you condemn.
We watch other couples fall apart and slut shame them, we've had other women. Tell us they wished they waited or were more faithful.
>>17049778
>I'm in a stable relationship
you're fucking a horse?
>>17049778
Whatever floats your boat, but it seems appalling to me to live your life so obstructed by empty ideals and so full of judgement,
>>17049783
top kek
>>17049798
You bet I will little Suzy, because it is the American way, it is the right way!
Because in the US OF GOD LOVING A You have the freedom to choose to live how you want to live inspite of what everyone else thinks!
You want to suck every dick from here to Timbuktoo little suzy? You suck that dick little Suzzy because Uncle Sam said you can. And i'll judge you and slut shame you because I have the freedom of my opinion!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
>>17049727
Wut. I'm a woman who values virginity and consequently men who also value it. I think it's more sexist when you say all women think a certain way and like/dislike the same thing.
>>17049783
>HURRR DUURRR DURR I'M A FAGGOT WHO DOESN'T KNOW ENGRISH
Let me break it down for you cuck.
stable, used as an adjective.....definition
in a good state or condition that is not easily changed or likely to change
Sauce, remember I was using it as an adjective, you know what that is right?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stable
>>17049999
Why do so many western women hate virgin men then? They whine about "SLUT SHAMING" yet they bully men for being virgins. Western women are horrible.
>>17050030
Societies horrible son. That's just how life is, that's how it will always be.
>>17050033
I'm well aware, but things are so lopsided these days that guys take most of the heat. It's not fair.
Western women want a "real man" yet do nothing to earn one.
>>17049731
>Just realize that women - especially women that live in the western world - are not pure flowers
I know, that's why I'm so insecure about this. Non religious girls are horrible to virgin guys and I've even seen some other say they want their first time with an experienced guy. I'm really not interested/comfortable in finding a ONS but at the same time I'd die inside if I married a girl only to have her tell me a month later she'd taken miles of cock and had std's cleared up.
>>17049377
He fucked a child? I seriously doubt that, but he did marry one.
>>17049301
Virginity was prized for practical reasons; we didn't have effective birth control, so if a woman was a virgin she didn't have children with other men.
We don't have to worry about such stupid shit anymore. A woman can have sex with partners before they meet you and still be a happy, nice, well-adjusted woman.
In today's world, I would assume a woman that was a virgin in her 20s has some form of mental illness, or was below average intelligence.
A lot of sexual partners might reveal other mental issues; but having a few is perfectly normal.
There is no sense of "purity" being a virgin. A woman could be a total bitch...and a virgin; or a really nice person, and had a lot of sexual partners.
There is no correlation with anything.
As for those with less sexual partners having lower rates of divorce, this is because they are stupid and fall prey to their dumbfuck society or religion. They have little rights and little power, and so don't divorce as much as women with more power.
But because they don't divorce doesn't mean they are HAPPY, doesn't mean they don't WANT to divorce. They are simply unable.
Anyone that wants a "pure" woman (virgin), I immediately think that man has below average intelligence at best, probably close to mentally retarded at worst.
>>17050623
>There is no correlation with anything.
This.
Ugly girls don't get laid less than pretty ones.
Bold girls don't get laid more than shy ones.
Good looking dudes don't get more pussy than ugly ones.
Manlets don't get less pussy than tall guys.
etc. etc. etc.
This is what I have learned in my 32 years on this planet. You just can't tell if someone's a slut, and even if they are, it's not an indication of how faithful they are in a relationship.
Still, promiscuity is degeneracy and anyone has every right to look down on it.
>>17050720
>Still, promiscuity is degeneracy and anyone has every right to look down on it.
What is promiscuous? 1 partner? 100? Something in between?
If she's fucking dudes for a small sliver of attention, she has larger problems with her personality than a bunch of dicks shoved in her. She's massively insecure.
Women can be promiscuous and still be happy, well-functioning people; it's not common that they would be, but possible. There's nothing wrong with it per se.
I had a female muslim friend in school and i know for a fact that she had PLENTY of anal sex. She made sure to not tear her hymen, but she did everything else.
I've only really known 4. All of them were 'boy crazy', like obsessed with who/what/why people were talking to and drama. I think most of it comes from a culture which is going to marry them off past a certain age.
Only 3 of them though went past quite teenage flirting and mobile phone/media obsession with guys. I can imagine it wouldn't have been difficult to set it up though if you played the whole 'forbidden secret/star crossed lovers/dangerous one last night' scenario right because this shit is basically a trope within their media.
The other one just used to hook up with a friend of mine on the down low once or twice a week. Eventually she said she had to break it off because her family was important to her and she was going to have to marry a nice Muslim dude and start focusing on family. Her brothers were super suspicious though seemed to relate to her being in a difficult position between having to do what she wanted to do, but also meet the expectations of family, especially the older generations. I got the impression that they all kind of knew, but turned a blind eye because as long as she came around in the end it was allowed and permissible if not outright admitted and she was discreet.
The other 3, yeah that kind of feeling as well. It seemed kind of humorous. Girls are expected to be untrustworthy and be 'boy crazy' until calmed down and brought back into realising that family and god needs to take priority so they can say "I used to think that, but blah blah blah god and family is etc etc".
>>17050720
Yep. A shy, nerdy girl could actually be a huge slut. A party girl who dresses up slutty could be a virgin. A girl who was a total slut in college could become a loyal loving wife. A girl who saved her virginity for marriage could go out and cheat.
No correlations.
>>17050810
How is it even possible to hook up with a Muslim chick? I assume you need to be white and very good looking, they won't risk getting caught with average guys.
>>17050835
The same way as hooking up with a non-Muslim chick.
>>17050833
>A shy, nerdy girl could actually be a huge slut.
They all are, everyone knows that.
>A party girl who dresses up slutty could be a virgin
Yeah she totally does coke at a frat house but has never seen a penis. Things nu males believe.
>A girl who was a total slut in college could become a loyal loving wife.
Because that worked out so well for our parents.
>A girl who saved her virginity for marriage could go out and cheat.
Show me one case of this happening.
>>17050842
But what about the stigma? They might get caught, she might get in trouble, etc. It's not the same, that's what I meant.
>>17050835
First of all you need to meet some. You aren't going to be meeting them in bars so it'll be through school, higher education or work.
The ones I've known have been really status obsessed. Like not even what I'd call tasteful either, just BMW, Mercedes, bling watch and mobile phone, new clothes. Outward signs of being successful and a decent provider.
You also need to get down with whatever social media platform is big amongst ethnics at the moment as well because a lot of this shit is going to involve covert mobile phone based drama.
Most of them are married off in their early 20's so just remember that mentally you are dealing with a super basic teenage girl.
You'll meet one and be your normal self. They'll be wreaked by inner turmoil because they have never met a guy like this before, what does he want? So mysterious! Trying to tempt me away from my convictions. But I must resist!
Then wait for all her friends to start blowing up her phone trying to work out what the 'connection' is between you because nothing happens by chance, guys are all out to seduce women. Men only want one thing, he is such a bad boy, I must resist!
Seriously I just asked to borrow a pen. I'd say go shlick and get it out of your system, but you'll prob have to go to hell and there is like 19 people living in your house.
>>17050852
Thanks for the detailed explanation, but I was just curious. I don't want to actually do it. It's not worth the trouble and I prefer white women. I don't have a natural urge to meet Muslim chicks, and I'd rather not risk serious trouble if I did want to meet them anyways.
>>17050846
>in the entire history of humankind, not a single girl who waited until marriage to have sex has cheated on her husband
I can't imagine how retarded someone would need to be to believe this.
>>17050852
This sounds like fucking hell. That's exactly what I don't want.
>>17049425
ForFuckSake
What the fuck?
>>17050876
This thread wasn't about what you wanted though was it? What did you want?
>>17050869
'really good looking' is obviously helpful, but you'll be playing the handsome diamond in the rough trope. Even if you aren't really good looking, as long as you aren't actually deformed, think of the fact that you are basically taking a sheltered girl who is bored stupid and trying to show off to her friends out in a nice car. When did that not work, ever? This is a women who has also been taught forever to aim for a successful man despite otherwise petty concerns like him being older, or ugly, or actually evil.
Seriously, just realise you are tapping into an ancient story for girl meets guy, guy isn't like other guys, family hates guy, girl and guy are doomed to never be, there can only be this single glorious summer, girl is older now, married, family, successful loving wife and mother, still looks back on that day when she almost gave it all up for that one guy who wasn't like the other guys, but it could never be, would she give it up to relive the moment just once more? Fade to fucking black. Every ethnic romance ever.
Just to show the other side: i went to class with a muslim girl. I always looked up to her. She was STUNNINGLY beautiful, very kind and lovely and as far as i know (and i was pretty close friends with her) she never had any contact beyond platonic friendship with guys.
Now i'm a teacher myself and there's a muslim girl in my class. She does banter with the guys, but she would never go over the boundaries. Besides that, she's just your average girl, reading a lot of manga, loving to draw and all that shabang. It's probably not so much a question of religion or ethnicity but more so about character and personality.
>>17050895
I'd rather just talk to white women. I'm white.
>>17050889
What? Is there a problem, anon?
>>17050895
>This thread wasn't about what you wanted though was it? What did you want?
I mean I expect a little bit of basic. #notallwomen yes all fucking women sob over romcoms and spend hours on FB mobile. I just want someone who takes the religion seriously, wants kids and is a virgin. Looks aren't important to me because we're all getting old eventually and I'm too poor for a hot girl anyway.
>>17050909
That was a little more re-assuring.
>>17050963
>I just want someone who takes the religion seriously, wants kids and is a virgin.
>The insane disconnect
I don't understand it, the "religious" people who come here. Like you are on 4chan the site that was known as the "asshole of the internet" and "internet hate machine".
You want them to take the religion seriously but you post on 4chan.
>>17050997
this site is mainstream af, memes are in the news. He's here on a worksafe board not having skype sex on soc ffs.
>>17050997
I'm not him, but 4chan has had a culture for a few years now where if you say you're an atheist, or criticize Christianity in the slightest, people call you a "neckbeard" and start spamming fedora memes.
This website is full of hypocrites that try to enforce religion while simultaneously mistreating others, who would have thought?
>>17050739
Women are promiscuous because they can.
And that makes them bad people. Just because they can get something for free that other people (men) can't doesn't mean they should go for it.
>>17051065
>And that makes them bad people. Just because they can get something for free that other people (men) can't doesn't mean they should go for it.
That doesn't make any fucking sense. I can breathe, does that make me bad? I can also walk, talk, chew gum, etc.
WHY does that make them bad? Are men bad if they are promiscuous too? You're a fucking retard.
>>17051065
And men can get sex for free all the time. You're just world-class stupid.
>>17049301
Ex muslima reporting in. I was born into a Muslim household, although not as radical (thurks). I didn't wait until marriage because I did not give a single shit in that retarded culture. Don't get me wrong, I think slutting around is disgusting, and if that bastard didn't cheat on me I would have married him. But I've married my next boyfriend who was virgin himself until we began dating. Now I'm happily married to a German and I won't get my baby boy cut no matter what those stupid as hell people say. How can you even say God is almighty then go around and butcher something what you said was created in perfection?
>>17051194
such meme
>>17051194
Shut up. That wasn't convincing at all. Go away. 1/10
>>17051065
Just because they can get something other people can't, doesn't mean they shouldn't go for it.
>>17051209
>>17051204
Are you kidding me? That is my life, not a meme. At first my mom was sad but now she's just happy for me. Seeing my marriage lasts for 10 years now and that one radical Muslim uncle of mine who always looked down upon my husband left with his cheating ass his wife and two kids for some other random pussy. My husband is more pure and worthy than any of those shit two faced deceiving Muslim people with their shit lying culture.
>>17051230
You're lying. You are embellishing too much on your details and you sound too stereotypical. Please go.
>>17051239
I don't care if you're uncomfortable because deep down in your heart you know Muslims living in the Western world are shallow lying cunts. About 100% of them. And the rest of em are dumb as shit sheep fucker.
>>17051260
Yes. Muslims in the west are shallow lying cunts. Lots of Muslim women are sluts. I'm very racist. I don't deny these things.
But I can tell you are lying for the reasons I told you. Fake ex-Muslimah pls go. You are shitposting on an extreme level here.
>>17051271
I'm not lying and you know it. Why would I even give shits if I weren't Muslim? And yes, I've changed to German citizenship and my kids won't take religion class.
>>17051348
No I think you're lying. But white countries should only be for white people. Please go back.
op you can hire a private investigator that's fairly common
>>17051373
I am white, fucker. And I have the most adorable blonde and blue/green and amber eyed kids. Where as you are probably ugly as fuck? Or maybe butthurt because you didn't dare to pursue that one special lady?
Yes those muslim shitheads should get the fuck out. I am from a time where immigrants made maybe 1% of German citizen, those were good times. I grew up in this culture, I am german as can be. I despise the culture and religion I was born in. And all those Muslim disrespectful shit immigrants who flood the whole country. I wouldn't hate those people as much if they showed some respect to the culture of my country and lived quietly without looking around for trouble all the time.
>>17051541
Trying to figure out the angle of this shitpost.
>>17051541
Calm the fuck down, holy shit. I don't have to pursue anybody I don't want to. Why are you so mad? This isn't even about me, this is about you. Don't start doing what the rest of /adv/ does, which is taking out your autistic rage on me just because I'm a man.
And I highly doubt you are white like me. You have to go back.
>>17051555
Sluts get mad when they are called sluts, just ignore her.
>>17051559
OMG. OK. You've won. I'm leaving this shit thread. Even though I AM the only (ex) Muslim girl who gave their opinion in this thread like op requested....
>>17051578
Shut up.
