So I'm a bisexual male in his late teens and lately, whenever I see a picture of a cute trap or just a cute girl, I don't think "Aw gee, they're cute. I want to cuddle with them" I think "Aw gee, they're cute. I wish I could look like that". It's even gotten to a point where for the past few months, I've been working out and dieting so that I can get a more feminine body. It only really occurred to me recently that this could be some form of gender dysphoria. Could that really be the case and if so, is it just a phase that will pass with time or is it something else?
>>16618831
post your boy butt so I can fap
>>16618852
You don't want to see it. It's kinda gross. I'm working on it but it's still gross
>>16618831
Maybe you just like the androgynous look. That's a really popular look in Japan (for males), Anon.
>>16618862
Shave your cute cock first then post it
Please
>>16618831
Do you like the idea of being cute and feminine or being female more? You can still be cutesy and be a guy. It all comes down to what you want to be biologically.
>>16618831
Just lol at thinking dieting will make you look feminine, you already have a wide male chin, longer clavicles, and thicker wrists than any attractive girl
If you could have gotten the estrogen into you sooner maybe you could have made it but not now
get off the internet and isolate yourself from anime completely, it's fucking with your head
>>16618888
>you already have a wide male chin, longer clavicles, and thicker wrists than any attractive girl
The sad quads of truth
>>16618831
Kill yourself before it's too late. If you don't you're a selfish cunt that doesn't care about the future. Do you live in a place where you can buy guns? If you do, use one on yourself. It's important, it's for the greater good.
>>16618831
Stop watching anime, it's messing you up and turning you into a degenerate. That crap you're watching, stop that shit.
>>16618938
>it's for the greater good
How so? How is killing myself going to benefit me or the world?
>>16618938
Edgy
>>16618947
Less degeneracy
>>16618989
Why do you come to this board?
>>16618989
Who cares? I may be a bit of a degenerate but who gives a fuck. I don't rub it in other people's faces. Most of the people I know don't even know I'm Bi. If they asked me, I wouldn't lie but there's no reason for a lot of people to know.
>>16619014
People like you wouldn't have existed in older times. The only reason you're still alive is because people allow it because people are weak pathetic shits that don't appreciate human survival. You're a disgrace.
>>16619026
People like me have always existed. The difference is people are more open about it now.
> You're a disgrace.
care to explain?
>>16618944
This
>>16619026
While I do wish people would go back to valuing rugged individualism instead of being whining little wusses, you may be making this a little too edgy.
>>16618831
you sound like you have a mental disorder or like you are suffering from isolation, or both.
you are in your LATE teens and you enjoy looking at pictures like the one posted? You think it's "cute" to the point where you want to change your own body? Not just draw images like it, because that would be a normal response. As a female I think you are disgusting and shameful. Rather than working to fix yourself, and be healthy and productive you are isolating yourself and obsessing over things that aren't real or important. You are out of touch with reality, with what's natural, genuine, positive. I already know the responses I'm going to get, because this out-of-touch blurring of gender lines mental fucking nonsense is spreading like a disease.
>>16619026
dude, this shit comes from the head with or without u wanting it. stop talkign bullshit
>>16619043
bitch
>people like op expecting advice from a board that has a majority of insecure losers and women.
This is not the place, OP. Go see a professional or make a thread in another website.
>>16619055
I was thinking of posting this on /lgbt/ but I remembered there all a bunch of fags that would just say "start your transition senpai"
>>16619055
oh, and I didn't know any other sites where I could get advice and I don't think this is really an issue that requires professional help.
>>16619070
>there
they're*
>>16619070
I didn't mean 4chan. Anonymity is an obstacle for advice. Go to a forum with people registering or reddit.
>>16619081
that makes sense i guess but I don't know any advice forums for that and no one knows me on reddit
>>16618831
No, I'm pretty sure it's just the weeb cancer plaguing your brain.
>>16618944
>>16619043
>>16619203
I just posted that picture cause the 3d examples of traps I have are too nsfw for this board so I just googled "cute trap" and got that picture. I already know shit from anime isn't real and that it's a cartoon. Only retards don't know that.
>>16619043
> Not just draw images like it, because that would be a normal response
I don't want to look like that cause I like the picture. I want to look like that cause I want to look feminine. I never said it was normal. Why do you think I'm asking for advice
>disgusting and shameful
For fucking what?
>Rather than working to fix yourself, and be healthy and productive
What are you talking about? I've lost more than 15 pounds since I started working out and it's done a ton for my self confidence. How is that not healthy or productive.
> isolating yourself
You don't know how I live my life. You have no fucking clue if I'm isolating myself. You're just going off baseless assumptions.
>tl;dr
You're a judgemental cunt
Likely this is the result of several factors.
You're already bisexual, so you may or may not see that much of a difference between men and women and thus it's easy for you to become aroused by androgyny. Then for reasons I can't understand because I'm not, maybe that became a sort of ideal, as if being both the things you get off on in one person thing.
Compounding this issue may be people in places and web sites you visit encouraging you not to be very masculine because that's what they think bisexual males are like and maybe it's because a lot of the ones who are very open about it are, at least that's what I've heard.
If you're already small and not very strong, and also aware of how much easier women have it given the way western societies cater to them, you come to see being more like them as an advantage. In conjunction with your partial attraction to them, as well as to people who have your body, it becomes easy to get off on the thoughts of your own self image modified to have known advantages that you are also attracted to.
In short, this is likely or at least possibly a strange form of autogynophilia that I can't possibly comprehend. Once you know the causes, you can cut them out and recover.
Just because you say things are cute, doesn't make you homosexual, lesbian or whatever the fuck they want to tag you.
It's just fucking words, like the word N*gga, F**got. There just words.
Live your life the way you want to.
"If it bleeds we can kill it..."
>>16618831
36 year old Bi male reporting: (Op) seriously im gonna just come out and say it.. If it makes you happy and your ok with it then do it become more fem. I my self went through a time where i guessed everything i was feeling from hooking up with men to having sex with women.. And hiding my sexual shame from Family and friends.. And you know what.. After i had my Mental brakdown I found some thing out.. People are who they are, Some of us hide it others where it as pride and others are unsure and need to find them self's.. There is No shame in finding your self as long as your happy doing so.. Lifes to short to worry about what others think or feel, Do what makes you happy as long as its safe and your not putting your health on the line.. If you wanna dress up and become more female then Go do it.. Become the person you wanna be.. I use to hide my sexual side and taught i was ugly for liking men and never found true Joy till i stopped caring what others taught and started living my life.. I now live happy, enjoying the freedom.. So (Op) seriously it dose not matter what anyone thinks follow your hart be who you wanna be and enjoy life how you want it to be as long as your not putting your health or life or anyones life in danger.. then so be..
>>16619743
There are two things you can do when you don't like the way you look
OPTION1: change your body. This option is good if you're fat and want to look healthy, but it's bad if you want to go against the way you are naturally built and surgically change your features. If you do the latter, you risk never being content with the way you look.
OPTION 2: learn to love your body. Even if you think you are disgusting right now, some therapy and counseling can help you to accept and love yourself for who and what you are. This option is bad for fat people who want to learn to love their bodies Because they are too lazy to work out, but it is great for people with body dysmorphia or who are just self-concious.
Do you, op, I'd suggest option 2. You can get to a place where you love your body mentally without damaging it perminently with the use of hormones and surgery.
>>16619778
Yeah, I think I'm going to have to go with a mix of the two. I'm kinda fat right now and I'm trying to lose it but I know that even if I do, I'm going to still be dis satisfied so I'm going to have to find a way to get to a point where I'm comfortable in my own skin once I get there
Trust me it is sad because we shall never achieve the trap body and cuteness
>>16618874
No, you'll find better cocks elsewhere
>>16620573
The cute shy type. Ehhh, let me fuck you.
>>16618831
OP, when I'm horny, I have a desire to dress in women's clothing and to shove dildos up my ass. I think, how nice it would be to lounge around the house looking like a cute girl. Then I rub one out and I just want to put on some comfortable male clothes and continue on with my night. When I'm out in public, I'm very much in the attitude that I want to be the dominant one in the relationship when I'm looking at people. It's when I look at porn or spend too long from other people that I get into the mindset you're talking about. I was really deep in that rabbit hole in a particularly long period of isolation.
It's a temptation that lurks. Is it an awful one? Could be. Fit > average > trap > fat. If you're a masculine guy, you'd only be hurting your natural looks and it'd be counterproductive.
If unlike me, and socializing/mood has little effect on your desire to be female, you've probably got gender dysphoria. If it's regular and consistent, you have it. In my case, I think I'm just a pervert. You might just be a pervert.
>>16620722
Forgot to add this in, OP. Being a trap, in my opinion, greatly diminishes your ability to inspire other people, to socialize properly, and to pursue careers all in favor of being an object of affections. You want to feel cute or have other people want to fuck you instead of all the other possibilities. If you're like me, you probably only desire the appearance because in the short run, it might make certain aspects of your life easier as people would be attracted to you. You'd face less resistance for all those sacrifices. I wouldn't advise it.
bumperino
>>16621867
Ok Flanders
>>16618831
Kill yourself.
>>16619043
>As a female
nobody fucking cares. fuck off
>>16618831
Okay. I'm MtF. What I'm going to ask you is important. Do you look androgynous? Because if you don't, your best bet at happiness is to suppress those feelings with all your might. Use medication. Get a drug addiction whatever. Anything is better than becoming one of those sad creatures called non-passing transsexuals.'
HOWEVER; If you're one of those lucky few like myself who's androgynous enough to be mistaken for a girl daily, you might be happier following those feelings wherever they lead.
>>16621967
Okely dokely
>>16622281
I'm short (5" 3') but I doubt I could pass as a woman. My chest is broad and my shoulders are big and you really can't change that. I have a pretty round facial structure and I could look somewhat androgynous with longer hair but that still doesn't change my body.
>>16622281
>sad creatures called non-passing transsexuals
Yeah, the last thing I want is to start looking like this.
>>16621969
No, you
