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Best boy and best girl.
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>>139296686
Reminder neither Lise nor Beatrix did anything wrong
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Here’s to 33 years since the fall of communism in East Germany!

To celebrate the founding of democracy in East Germany the BBC has published a book containing a collection of all GDR Katja propaganda seen during the segment.
To buy the book follow the link below(MSRP ‎£0.00/ $0.00):
https://d2.maxfile.ro/sjdirqrmqw.pdf

To see the various posters used during the segment, follow the link graciously provided by the Katja Historisches Museum (KHM , Katia Historical Museum) to their online archives:
http://imgur.com/a/4tnrL
http://pastebin.com/NnAfJGi3

Don't forget to visit the gift shop either!
The Schwarzesmarken Original Soundtrack 1 is now available;
MP3:
www.mediafire.com/download/5c0b67mf4bfxjer

FLAC:
www.mediafire.com/download/4aqu6upidwc2dva/


BD Extras
Only Scans(only cover pages):
www.mediafire.com/download/9gzezg3wgoc7jwc/

Scans w/uncompressed photos (large):
www.mediafire.com/download/ke5827tppkdfb22/
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>>139296686
wrong! Posting best girls.
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Would you a shotadore?
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>>139296733
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>>139296210
For the anons who wanted the fix-fiction and don't get to see last thread, here's the prologue. Let me know what you think, if anything. Be gentle.
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>>139296759
All I see is a dumb broad and a drunkard who couldn't get a quantum computer working right.
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>>139296765
The real question is, would Lise?
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>>139296813
i don't care about opinion of sheep.
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>>139296798
Don't expect 4 chan to be gentle.
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>>139296850
So hard.
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>>139296798
I liked it. So I guess we're going down the Werewolf path?
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>>139296926
>Katia
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpp208_pink-floyd-the-final-cut-film-complete-1983_music

Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is THE soundtrack, comrades.

Also, commissar Gretel is alive and rocking to the latest Puhdy`s album. STASI IS REMOVED, celebration is in order:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw
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>>139296958
Consider the ramifications of the prologue, though: Theo's going to be spending the next three years in the military under the constant threat of his father and him potentially being executed (or worse). Since Beato doesn't have a rape-bait imouto to dangle in front of him, her ideals are going to need to be sweetened if he were to consider joining up with her while under his own Sword of Damocles.
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Is this true, or is this just an excuse?
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>>139296958
It makes sense. Change Beatrix, and you change the whole game. You could argue that getting Katia to change would effect things too, but Katia is already perfect the way she is. You also have the best vantage point to strike out at the stasi and make the most changes within the political structure of the DDR. Iris and the 666th simply don't have the position or power to resolve things effectively without tearing everything down.

>>139297071
I thought that they were forcing him into their service, like his poor imouto.
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>>139297087
If its funny it doesn't matter if it isn't true. And thats pretty damn funny.
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>>139297087
It's true and we've been saying this since the threads first started.
It was funny, the second the greenlight was up so many jumped the gun to say it was incorrect.
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>>139297119
Oh, yeah. I was thinking too far ahead about Beato with her Stasi act before delivering up East Germany on a platter.
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>>139296798
Does this mean Lise doesn't get the rapecage treatment?
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>>139297189
>>139297128

Huh. Didn't know that. I only started coming to SM threads when the 7th episode aired.

I didn't even know that the title was incorrect until I read the comments on steam.
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>>139297330
Correct, she and her mother escape to West Germany. Though who knows what they do for three years; probably advocate for dealing with East Germany to try to get back displaced families and the like. I might write a little blurb on that as a side-thing in the coming days. For now, though, I'm trying to decide where to pick up next: Fast-forward to the first battle in episode 1 or build things up more with background for motivation?
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>>139296759
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>>139297431
If you've gotten the backstory more or less straight in your head a timeskip may be in order also please bring Lise back without the suffering this time ;_;
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>>139297509
Yeah, I think that'll be the plan. I might even try to save Inghild for that one Anon since Theo will be a little less fucked-up in the head this time around. And of course, anon. She misses her onii-chan.
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So if the demo does come out, how do I support it?
Do I just play the demo to do that?
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>>139297483
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>>139297604
>Saving Inghild AND Lise
You are an angel.
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>>139297680
Cripple moe is pretty cute, if messed up.
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>>139296765
What Would You Do With Stella?
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>>139297431
I remember a Jap fixfic where Theo basically puts on his inner Master early and is a fucking political beast while still being hugely paranoid. It's the one where he fucks Beatrix in a jail cell, I think.
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>>139297632
And give positive review on Steam.
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>>139297632
Yea and I guess leave a good review as well
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>>139297632
It's not gonna be out till the end of the year so I wouldn't worry about it right now.
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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CC7i6brEI
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>>139297839
Sounds awesome.
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>>139297839
I'm going to have to rewatch/reread basically everything to decide fully on what exactly I want to do with this, though the politicking may play a bigger role. Less Stasi is an all-encompassing evil machine, more Stasi being the surveillance masterminds that were on par with the KGB.
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>>139298025
Isn't what they're supposed to be?
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>>139297813
anal sex.
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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
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>>139297844
>>139297847
>>139297861
Thank you.
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>>139298121
Yeah. The Stasi were brutally efficient in their information-gathering techniques, but (from what we know, there's probably millions of files that are still classified) they weren't the be-all end-all group that had unlimited power and control over East Germany.
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Man I've always found it fucking hilarious that these world-ending monsters are known as the BETA
Like is this an allegory for Japan's population crisis? We need to rid the world (Japan) of BETAs or else we'll go exctinct?
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>>139296756

Bro, I was a year old when the wall came down, and I am not yet thirty. Don't make me feel any more useless than I already do.
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>>139297087
Would Russians use that type of wrong German?
Reminds me of the USMC Teufel Hunden.
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>>139298281

That makes sense.
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>>139298157
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>>139298589
He means in universe Anon, the wall fell in '83 in MuvLuv.
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>>139298611
Unlikely. German is the next learned language after English in Russia, and it was in reverse in soviet times.

Just usual jap bullshit.
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>>139298281
>inb4 once they've somehow beaten the BETA the ALPHAs come along and impregnate any girl left alive with more BETAs
fuck I just depressed myself by imagining Katia pregnant with a BETA, you reap what you sow shit
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>>139298717
th-thanks comrade commissar
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>>139298589
Reminder that I'm talking about the fall of communism in the BETA-verse
Which was March 28th, 1983.
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>>139297761
my nigger
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I was so worried that Shwarzes Marken, just like Total Eclipse, would give us 2 good episodes at the start, then throw everything out of the window and just give us laziness for the rest of the series. But no. We actually got 12 solid episodes of dark atmosphere, and I loved it! The atmosphere in this anime is this anime’s biggest selling point, because it was just so engrossing - The snow, the human conflict, the despair, the distrust… It all came together to give me enough feels to keep me hooked throughout, and that’s all this anime (one that’s about kids fighting aliens) really needed to do.

Now, I will admit that Schwarzes Marken doesn’t really have that much of a story, to the point where did find it quite difficult to understand what was going on most of the time, and none of the characters got any interesting development, but I didn’t really mind all that. The point of this anime is to be a dark and atmospheric mecha anime, not to be some really character or story driven anime.
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>>139298611
No idea m8. That's why I asked here. I know Russian but not German.

You would think they would correct the unit name after that Russian officer left.
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>>139297680
>tfw you will never save Inghlid
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>>139298946
__no__
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>>139298951
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Reminder that everyone in this show is inferior to a harem protagonist with a dreamcast.
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Was Theo seriously trying to destroy America with the whole Alaskan bomb thing in TE?
Does he just want to watch the whole world burn now that Katia is likely dead?
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>>139298932
He'd need to leave first.
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>>139299007
>that hand
Oof.
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>>139299007
hot
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>>139299040
Stop that
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>>139299028
I think he just wanted to reveal that secret to the world.
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>>139299028
Let's be honest, anon, wouldn't you want to watch the whole world burn if Katia died on your watch?
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>>139299041
How can one be so white?
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>>139299040
>>139299028
NO SHE'S NOT DEAD SHE'S NOT A WHORE REEEEEEE
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>>139299041
So, he's the one who gave them the name? I thought it was some unnamed irrelevant officer that never even got mentioned.
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>>139296759
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>>139299097
He is wojak
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>>139299128
n- no bully anon
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>>139299128
Lise/Lise are hot.
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>>139299097
>slavs
>white
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>>139299128
Double best.
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>>139299090
No, but I would if it was Beato instead.
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>>139299113
He was a high ranking officer so nobody could really go against it. We don't know his name, but it'd be pretty funny if Gregory was revealed to be the one who named them.
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>>139299151
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>>139299150
NO BULLY
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>>139299040
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>>139299169
Jurgen, bitte.
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>>139299195
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>>139299169
Honestly who designed these suits
What's the point of showing the tits so massively
What's the point of being skintight latex
Again why does the armor end just above and to the sides of massive titties
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>>139299277
> Girls need to reproduce since humanity is on the brink of destruction.
> They also have to fight.
Hit 2 burds in one anon.
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>>139299277
Tits are natural plot armor. No need for extra protection.
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>>139299337
So basically this is the dream world of every doujin artist.
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>>139299277
Porn and guro purposes. Notice how they always get ripped up when the girls die.
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>>139299379
>Lise's average day in the office
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>>139299379
I said stop you weenie
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>>139299379
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>>139299277

the man who designed those was designing the costumes for a porn game.

but in-universe, they're pressure suits. Yui pretty much almost died when she had to ride along in yuuya's TSF without one from the g-force
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>>139299416
>Give me cocks
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>>139299379
>Having camera screens like that back then

MUH IMMERSION
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>>139299370
>tits are natural plot armor
Bea has some massive jugs and died anyway, Katia has cute tits and is probably ded, and Lise had nice tits and is dead. It don't work in Muvluv.
>>139299379
>15:23
What the FUCK were they doing for 15 minutes?
also DELETE THIS
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>>139299379
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>>139299379
m.m..m...
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>>139299437
>having aliens
>jumping through worlds
>having futuristic mechs in the 80's

MUH IMMERSION
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>>139299446
Aww poor Lise is terrified oniichan is lurking the board~
he's already been sent the link
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>>139299379
>>139299391
>>139299401
>>139299416

And everyone still loves her the way she is.
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>>139299439
>Iris, Beatrix, Sylwia, Pham, Lise all ded
>Katia, Gretel, Anett all alive
If anything, having massive tits causes death
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>>139299491
>everyone

You mean yourself
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>Gretel can survive crashes (with explosion or not).
>Gretel can survive AKs.
>Gretel can survive from massive bleeding even more than Iris.
>Anett can pass her death flags to others
Truely OTP
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>>139299491
Yep.
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>>139299547
>What did you mean there are no more cocks
>give me Soviet cocks
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>>139299474
>can these faggots be any faster they can barely stick it in
>why can none of them move their hips
>why do all of them smell like shit
>why do all of then talk so much and bury their face in my chest goddamnit
>why do all of these people have two inch cocks
>I hope oniichan has a bigger one
>>139299520
No I do too.
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>>139299515
>Katia
>alive
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>>139299491
True
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Lise will come back!
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>>139299586
>not having her alive so she can commit lover's suicide with Theo Master ver. in some other spin off
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>>139299437
It was the least modern looking I had, same for the Annette one.
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>>139299520

Lise won the last strawpoll for most affecting death, at least 50 of us love her the most.
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>>139299663
>50 of us
>Strawpoll

Sure "50" of you
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>>139299640
>>139299586
>Katia
>dead
Why do all the girls have to die FUCK
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>not a single "Wir sind das Volk!"
It's shit.
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>>139299713
would hit that with the force of Thor's hammer
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>>139299663
>love her the most.
No, to me she's second to Katia but since she's didn't die I couldn't vote for her.
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>>139299770
>since she didn't die
:^)
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>>139299663
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>>139299770

I misworded that in retrospect.

Anyway, everyone loves Lise.
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>>139299595
The thing I never understood about Lise, was it not patently obvious that she was a spy from the start?
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>>139299713
Needs a camera edit
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>>139298025

Well, one of the key differences is that IRL the Stasi was fairly subtle and primarily focused on information more than enforcing an outright rein of terror.

They did employ something like 5% of the DDR population as regular informants, and they did Disappear people, but the terror was more a paranoia type thing than it was in ML; like being in a large building and knowing that there is a source of dangerous radiation SOMEWHERE inside rather than living in a city that suffers periodic Velociraptor attacks.
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>>139299835
>everyone
>implying
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>>139299828
>posting deviantart-tier pictures
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>>139299870
I'm everyone and I can confirm.
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>>139299799

Not until it's laid in text.
Neither the SM LN or TE VN make reference to it
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>>139298871
Let me guess, MAL repost?
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>>139299934
Could she even have lived if the guy didn't put her out of her misery? Honestly I am 100% certain that if the massive faggot gave her a hug at this point everyone would've turned out fine
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>>139299983
>hugging AIDS
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>>139299983
Obviously I meant 'everything' but fuck Theo forever.
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>>139296798

Not bad, though I suspect something terrible will happen to Holenstien Senior. At this point, the best he may be able to hope for is to die awesomely.
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>>139300017
Fuck you Lise is pure in her feelings
>>139300068
This guy was cool as fuck.
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>>139299944
Every girl needs more pictures

>>139299983
Its possible. after the way Iris' death was portrayed it makes every death seem unnecessary.
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>>139300088
>Lise is pure
Oxymoron
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>>139300057
Best fuckbois in ML.
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>>139300093
Tippity Toppity REEEEE
Fuck Theo and his gay way of 'saving' his sister
Fuck's sake you have Axemann in your debt anyway just attach the condition that you need Lise freed if he wants anything from the deal
>>139300127
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>139300160
Lise is literally worse than wormslut at this point
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>>139299983
Who knows, maybe?
But the point was that Theo needed to kill her to prove his loyalty to the rebellion.
If not this time he was going to be in the rebel funhouse instead of the Stasi one.
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>>139300160
I know you're grieving but
>REEEEEE
why do this

Also stop responding to bait.
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>>139300244
Because I'm high on sleep deprivation desu.
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>>139300160

But Axman wasn't controlling Lise at that point. She was in the Werewolf battalion under Beatrix.
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>>139299983
>>139300093

Lise might have had some pretty nasty internal bleeding, and we don't know how deep the spalling went. But she was out of the fight for sure, and if they had managed to stabilize her they could have worked on reconciling with her after all was said and done. Maybe it would have killed her a little while later, but unless they try there's no way to be sure.
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>>139300195
Wormslut became a wormslut through daddy machinations and later because oniichan was a forceful fuck and she lacked self-confidence to reject him or something.
Lise became a slut to protect oniichan, one of them is just a victim the other chose to become a victim to protect someone else. And got killed by him.
>>139300299
Who died within the next two episodes and had to die anyway if they didn't want to all get sent to the German Gulag.
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>>139300093
Lise's non-anime death gets to me everytime
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>>139300419
I am unsure which one is worse.
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>>139300419
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>>139300438
LN. At least Anime Lise knew her onii-chan loved her and got to die with a smile on her face.
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>>139300349

The only scenario where I see this working out is if they take her alive on the battlefield, which seems like a dubious prospect at best.
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>>139300498
>>139300419
fuck you for reminding me I thought I'd forgotten
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>>139300483
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>>139300566
What does this mean
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>>139299839
Pham mentioned that to be her strategy. You wouldn't expect a spy to be obvious which lead to some confusion since Theo wanted to believe her. Gretel would have send her to gulag but Iris trusted Theo.
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>>139300483
Lise
live action?
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>>139300609
>you wouldn't expect a spy to be obvious
But that's like the third oldest trick in the book after disguises and tits.
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>>139300585
It means he's a stupid spammer and you need to report+ignore all of his posts.
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>>139300585
Some people here call Beatrix a kike for some reason.
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>>139300720
Maybe because she hates the communists?
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>>139300438

They're both pretty bad.

Theo fucked up hard during the rescue arc, once Lise told him that she was forced to do terrible things to protect him, he should have tried to coax her out of the cockpit and talk about it in person. Then he could capture her, but also talk her down and let her know that he will always love her unconditionally (that can be a lie, but it's important that she genuinely believes it).

She was hurting so much, and Theo was so fucking dense that even Pham's RPG had a better grasp of the situation.

...And he was so dense Pham had to die to save him. The really sad thing was, Pham probably knew Lise would kill her, and gave her life so Lise could have a second chance. But the end result was that Theo decided Lise could not be saved.
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>>139300750
And... how does that make her a Jew?
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>>139300764
>shopping hearts in the scene where she says she's axemann's dog
Unforgivable did she really get mindbroken?
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>>139300720
Reddit also.
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>>139300798
I dunno just guessing.
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>>139300764
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>139300805
Define mindbroken
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>>139300875
female:mindbroken character:Lise parody:Schwarzesmarken
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>>139300815
>Reddit
>using /pol/ memes and racist words

No way.

>>139300857
>just guessing

Okay.
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>>139300913
Well, mindbreak.
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>>139300764
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I still hate you even if you feel bad about it now, Suzy.
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>>139300964
I wonder what happened to her.
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>>139300764
So this is what happens when dense MCs live in a world that actually results in death for people other than the MC when bad choices are made.
Fuck the dense.
>>139300989
Rape?
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>>139300989
Hope she gets chomped
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>>139300805
picrelated is the better edit
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>>139300764
>Theo decided Lise could not be saved
No, it was more like he decided she wasn't worth the effort or something or was so stupid that he could not fathom the idea of freeing her from Bea by killing Bea and not Lise.
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>>139300989
Laughing it up.
I wonder if Axmann's vaguely-sympathetic characterization spiel at the very end of the anime will turn out to be VN canon?
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>>139301063
What does that even mean that's kind of creepy
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>>139299856
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>>139301096
Did you go to school? Ever?
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>>139301070
Maybe. They'd probably go with the canonical route where he tried to take Ursula hostage after Iris got rescued. There really was no hidden, sympathetic motivation for LN Ketchup. Old Man Axmann pretty much bragged about how once he had Katia and was out of the country, he was going to turn her into a second Beatrix or Lise.
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>>139301155
He right however. The ketchup one is much better
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>>139297939
Congratulations, you have been awarded as the best /NVA/ spammer.
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>>139301221
Do you think Katia or Iris could've turned into Beatrix if given the same shitty circumstances and motivations that Beatrix had?
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>>139301069

Lise end - Schwarzesmarken - vol.5 - Anime - Episodes 9 and 10

Theodore engages her in a fight. In this fight, Pham tries to make the siblings stop fighting, however apparently Lise gets annoyed by this, and her response was shooting her with a 36mm round, which blew the upper half of Pham's body. At the end, theodore successfully defeats Lise in his Mig-21, and she is then taken in by the rebels.

They go back to the base and start questioning Lise, which then leads to the rebels asking Theodore to execute Lise himself.
A bound Lise was ranting about how Theodor should go over to the dark side, in a room filled with other people of the rebellion. Theodor finally accepted that she was too broken and twisted, and after hugging her, put his gun to her head, and squeezed...

Her last words when she was temporally in a lucid state of mind, were "Therefore, forget me... Absolutely, do not remember me. Because this dog of the Stasi, does not exist..."

Meanwhile katia was headed to were the execution was to try and stop it, but was too late as she heard the gunshot from a distance, at which she crumbled to the ground.
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>>139296781
Stasimouto for ants.
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>>139301155
>ovum being ferilized
>in her eyes
>somehow
Like, all I can imagine is that she's being fucked / was just fucked and she's watching her own eggs get penetrated by fatass sperm on a scanning monitor or something
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>>139300798
Commies hate Israel
Jews hate commies
Circle of life
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>>139296798
Nice anon! I am very interessed by how this will influence the rest of the story!
Thank you for your effort.
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>>139301282
Katia is basically young!Beatrix.
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>>139301132
Perfect
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>>139300964
I loved her voice.
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>>139299277
Nigga you gay.
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>>139300764
How many cocks?
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>>139301702
>implying I don't like the view
It just don't seem like armor.
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>>139301063
I bet she named all the fetuses after onii-chan
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>>139299277
It's not like you could be sexy in a real pilot suit.

Or?
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>>139301774
Nah.
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>>139301282
>>139301627
>Katia is basically young!Beatrix.

Not as tight tho.
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>>139301683
Beato and Katia were my favorites.

>Dat sexy Yukarin
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>you will never gangbang Lise with /a/
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I am going to marry Gretel!
and lick her armpits
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>>139301807
>implying she's used goods
pls don't tell me she whored herself out in West Germany my heart can't take it
>>139301828
>imblying she won't cut it off
You ain't no important politician.
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>>139301828
Only if we are allowed to hold hands and head pat her while we do it.
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The soul-crushing realization that I will never get to fuck Anett in the ass keeps me up at night.
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>>139301523
I might opt for Katia and Lise to appear at the same time in this iteration when I reach that point, further compounding the paranoia that Theo would have in trying to not attract any attention to himself. Lise may or may not be a CIA operative/West German equivalent watching over Katia, though I'm leaning more towards her going back to try to rescue Theo.
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>>139301842
Lise did it with everyone including refugees and homeless

She also did it for free
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>>139301918
Wait really? For what purpose, wasn't she one of those seductress spies?
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>>139301905
>Lise is CIA
The ride never ends
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>>139301918
She is a mod for 4chan?
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>>139301938
Please be baiting
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>>139301842

I'd assume Katja would start riding Theo like a roller coaster as soon as she possibly can. What are they gonna do, wait? they don't have that luxury. They are working hard for a future, but it's not something they can take for granted. She can either fuck him now or risk never fucking him, ever. That was definitely why Lise slept with her brother, because she knew that was the only chance she might get.

In addition to wanting to fuck theo for her own reasons, I'd assume she wants to get his mind out of the past as quickly as possible.
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>>139301962
Who would torture a fellow pilot before shooting her with a 36mm autocannon?
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>>139301994
I'm an anime-only retard, it sounded like she was raped once or twice and then proceeded to sleep with important people.
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>>139301865
How do you think I feel that I will never make Beato-san gag on my cock?
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>>139301627
Young Beatrix, if Beatrix had a good and caring daddy.
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>>139301962
Have to maintain parallels while sifting through the shittiness of the original authors. Also memes.
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>>139301962
>Lise is CIA
>she's tiny imouto
>everyone is a big guy for her
Huh.
>>139302053
>implying anyone would gag on your cock
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>>139301807
She's probably "pure", just to create a better parallel to Irisdina and for muh tragedy purposes. Think about it, the woman the story describes as the most beautiful dies a virgin.
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>>139302049
If you see it happen in the show,LN, or VN, its canon. If someone says it on 4 Chan and theres no source, take it with a grain of salt.
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>>139302117
So...she was probably a seductress spy right?
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>>139301975
>Lise
Sucks and fucks for a living that would put hentai heroines and adult stars to shame
Smashes infants with stones
Works for free

>4chan mod
Sucks up to admins
Smashes shitposters with bans
Works for free
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>>139301905

Yes, YES.

This pleases us, assuming the CIA is at least... Rational, maybe... in this universe.

For example, helping Axman after he's basically lost (at least far more than enough that they wouldn't be keeping him in power to ensure stability), it seems like spastic writing that they would offer him anything except a stay at a Blacksite.
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>>139302164
>works for free
I doubt she works for free, she's at least given food and board inb4 she's not
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>>139302102
ur mum did last nite m8
>rekt
I'll show myself the door

>>139302111
> Think about it, the woman the story describes as the most beautiful dies a virgin.

Was this confirmed?
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>>139302210
She's employed by the stasi in the 1980s.
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>>139302210
Well she's the stasi mistress so she's being fed properly and given monthly falcon punches

After all the Stasi don't want to fuck a malnourished twig
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Lise is CIA

Theo is Dr.Pavel

Katia is a Big guy.

DDR = Plane.
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>>139302230
Are you telling me they literally told her to go fuck random people to find shelter
why would anyone do such a thing
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>>139302210
>she's at least given food
Why? Does she lack protein in her diet?
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>>139302220
Well, it's outright stated in BiS that Beatrix is hotter by both Iris and Jurgen. In SM, it's more implied with the adjectives it uses. Beatrix is always described using more sexually charged language.

As for the virgin part, don't know. Abel keeps his daughter locked up pretty tight, but according to the spoilers, he has been using her to entice Jurgen over to his faction.
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>>139302263
They told her that if she didn't they will show the recording of her being raped to Theo and then torture/kill him.
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>>139302350
Meant to say adverbs, but whatever.
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>>139302340
>>139302361
please don't do this, why would you do such a thing to such a cutie ;_;
>>139302350
Beatrix is hot and she knows it, Iris is hot but would rather not bring it up.
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>>139302350
Gotcha anon.

>>139302408
As a Beatofag I love enjoying teasing Lisefags.
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>>139301221
I bet it will. Pretty much everybody in MuvLuv is a good guy on some level, or at least they have good intentions. LN SM Axmann was a brutal shift from that optimistic viewpoint so it makes sense to change him to be a little more like the others. He's still not 'good', but he's a desperate cynic out for number one instead of an outright sadistic sociopath who was a bad apple from the start. Probably has something to do with what made him give his imouto a scar.

They might change it to have Ursula be the one to condemn him instead of Iris to show her character development from the last couple of times she met him.
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>>139302478
I love all of them now bls stop
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>>139301304
>They go back to the base and start questioning Lise, which then leads to the rebels asking Theodore to execute Lise himself.
>A bound Lise was ranting about how Theodor should go over to the dark side, in a room filled with other people of the rebellion. Theodor finally accepted that she was too broken and twisted, and after hugging her, put his gun to her head, and squeezed...

She would have died anyway. The rebels would have killed Lise.
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>>139302361

It makes a ton of sense, actually. No matter what sort of in-house training you've had, nobody is going to send a swallow to seduce a high profile target unless they know she can actually get the job done. The most cost-effective and just generally effective way to train her would be to just drop her off on a corner and tell her to go out and fuck someone. Use a rape kit on her the next day to prove there's actually semen inside of her. Once she can do that, you make her fuck a specific random person, so you can tell she's not just picking easy targets.

Not only is this sort of training incredibly cheap, it's also far more effective than anything they could do in-house.
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>>139300057
I praise his loyalty.
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>>139302680
Look shut up already, I don't want logic I want comforting words for my waifu and be able to cleanly accuse the faggots who made her suffer to be absolute monsters with no reason for doing what they did except to be arseholes.
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>>139302502
>bls stop
I am sure Lise was thinking the same thing before Theo shot her.
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>>139302645
They suspected Theo to be a spy too, and wanted him to prove his loyalty to their cause by killing his sister. If he hadn't, he would have been tortured and killed just like she would be anyway. She made him believe she was too far gone to protect him. Again.
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